Best bands/Albums on SST

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What are the best bands on SST? Black Flag? Meat Puppets? Sonic Youth? Screaming Trees? Hüsker Dü?

Also what were the best albums of the 80s? (all genres included, in keeping with the topics rockist or non-rockist; ))

Ian, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

DUDE double nickels on the dime - minutemen

brains, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I would say DAMAGED by Black Flat, but I don't think that was originally released on SST, so I'm going to go with RAGIN' FULL ON by fIREHOSE.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, my typing's going to the dogs. Black FlaG, not Flat.

To answer the second part o' your question:

BEST ALBUMS OF THE EIGHTIES:

NIGHTTIME by Killing Joke, SPIRIT OF EDEN by Talk Talk, OCEAN RAIN by Echo & the Bunnymen, LET IT BE by the Replacements, GROUP SEX by the Circle Jerks, IT'LL END IN TEARS by This Mortal Coil, BLACK SEA by XTC,

Alex in NYC, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

SST has been done.

best alb of the 80s: is this a trick question?

Julio Desouza, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's been done - but anyway, best album on SST was Slovenly's "Riposte".

Dave225, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

How/why would it be a trick question, Julio?

Alex in NYC, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Husker Du - New Day Rising was the best POP album on SST and in the eighties. Husker Du - Zen arcade was the best hardcore album on SST an the eighties. Bad Brains - Rock For Light comes mighty close. Big Black Atomizer and Pet Shop Boys - Introspective were certainly 2 of the albums of the 80s. (yes you can like Pop & Rock too!) Orange Juice -You Can't Hide Your Love Forever must also be in there.

Craig, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

just the reference ot rockism (again!) but anyway to ans the question there were many many great albums released during the 80s.

Julio Desouza, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Was anyone a fan of Minuteflag? I never cottoned to it.

Second best SST record - 3 way tie:
Double Nickels
Sister
Up on the Sun.

Dave225, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Henry Kaiser's Devil in the Drain was a good record. But as far as your more SST "names" go, Sonic Youth, Minutemen, Black Flag, Screaming Trees, Dino Jr., Husker Du -- all good and worth owning.

paul, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Redd Kross! The Lovedoll Superstar Soundtrack!

Arthur, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

meat puppets self-titled first album is pretty raw, not that drugs didn't have anything to do with it. i often like it better than II which seems although awesome to be more restrained. however, double nickels no doubt, if solely because of D boon.

matt, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

sst was pretty boring in retrospect. i like minutemen - ballot result.

chaki, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Descendents - Milo Goes to College, St. Vitus - Born Too Late, Black Flag - The First Four Years, Husker Du - Metal Circus, Sonic Youth - Confusion is Sex (in roughly that order) but I'm not sure any label has ever released more useless records than SST. My favorite albums of the 80's AT THIS VERY MOMENT are The Raincoats - Odyshape and The Angry Samoans - Inside My Brain. Maybe The Wipers - Is This Real but that's totally a sentimental pick (as if all these other ones aren't).

Kris, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

As I thought, Husker Du & Minutemen seem to be the faves. Are the last few Husker Du lps as poppy as people make out? Some say Candy Apple Grey is the last of the 'classic' period. Allmusic.com says its the weakest(and poppiest) Fans say Warehouse is the weakest but NME and some other critics say its the best(and again poppiest). Is the Warners albums worth getting?

Ian, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

get both Ian. Personally, I enjoyed the last album and I do believe it is up there w/the best of their material. 'candy apple grey' has a couple of weak songs. it's almost as if they lost their bearing (maybe felt guilty by moving labels) but everything is better on Warehouse. A great synthesis of 'hardcore' and 'production'.

The article (under the URL below) is surely as good a guide as any. The writer bought pretty much EVERYTHING the label released up to 1989. It's in three parts but he knows what he's talking about (used this as a starting point before i went off in my own 'path').

http://www.furious.com/perfect/sst1.html

Julio Desouza, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Soundgarden were on SST werent they? I remember Everett True raving about them way back. Are Saccharine Trust any good?

Ian, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Soundgarden had one album on SST because they had signed to a major lable and the lable paid SST to put it out to enchance Soundgarden's cred.

Jack Cole, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I do like Riposte, but I'll still pick Slovenly's We Shoot For The Moon. The vocals can be a bit cloying, but the instrumental parts were tricky and catchy in that sort of did-I-just- hear-that-right? kind of way.

charlie va, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW, I got tons of obscure SST releases (Slovenly, Pell Mell, Minutemen, Meat Puppets etc.) on cassette from chain-store bargain bins in various locations; I doubt I paid more than $2 for anything. Has anyone else done the same thing?

charlie va, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

A couple places online that specialize in closeout material are oozing with SST goods: musicweb.com and outofprintmusic.com (these places also have some rough trade and midnight music stuff as well).

paul, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My favorite SST releases are: Dinosaur Jr "Bug" and "You're Living All Over Me", Opal - "Happy Nightmare Baby", and Bad Brains - "I Against I".

Spencer Chow, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i am still reeling from kris's odyshape-love so i will say blind idiot god

mark s, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i dream that someday someone who cares buys the SST catalog from Greg Ginn, whose let his fields go fallow, mistreating the catalog severely, and gives the stuff some good reissue action.

favorite album that ginn wouldnt release because of a bad drug deal that pissed him off: Velvet Monkeys Houseparty.

jack cole, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Opal's "Happy Nightmare Baby", of course. Dinosaur Jr's "Freak Scene" single and Husker Du's "Eight Miles High" single.

electric sound of jim, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sonic Youth - Sister and Evol; Husker Du - Flip Your Wig and New Day Rising; Dinosaur Jr - Bug; Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun; Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime. And of course, someone's gotta say it eventually: Negativland - Escape From Noise and that damned single that got 'em sued!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

best band on sst was husker du. best band on any label, actually, imho. best 80s sst releases : 'new day rising' (husker du), 'double nickels on a dime' (minutemen), 'sister' (sonic youth), the second meat puppets record and 'bonus fat' (descendents). i still find a lot of the sst stuff exciting to listen to.

angelo, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Am I the only person in the world who doesn't think much of Husker Du? They just seem so average to me...

Saccahrine Trust, on the other hand, were terrific - 'Surviving You Always' is prob. the alb to start w/, but I even like their later 'jazz fusion' recs. Their version of 'Peace Frog' is one of the few tolerable Doors covers.

Andrew L, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one of the things i did in torotno was try and get some SST stuff. And i got the saccharine trust live album 'past lives' and followed up with 'We became snakes'. I got a bag full of CDs so I won't be buying anything else (couldn't find any slovenly).

''Am I the only person in the world who doesn't think much of Husker Du? They just seem so average to me...''

prob. andrew. their sounds has aged but not aged badly or anything. It's still excellent rock.

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i am still reeling from kris's odyshape-love so i will say blind idiot god,

By a strange arrangement of circumstances, Blind Idiot God was probably the first SST band I ever heard (I told a teacher of mine I was into Black Flag even though I'd never heard them and he made me listen to a Blind Idiot God album. The guitar player was his best friend growing up or something). I think they had a song "about" clouds I liked quite a bit. Do you not like Odyshape?

Kris, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Discovered the "you don't know mojack" podcast late last night and it turns out I really want to hear two nerds discuss every detail of every release in the sst catalog.

Trip Maker, Friday, 27 November 2020 21:36 (one year ago) link

black flag whos got the 10 1/2 black flag damaged descendents liveage descendents somery bad brains i against i negativland escape from noise and the guns single is a good start!

xzanfar, Saturday, 28 November 2020 02:36 (one year ago) link

I think young people would like This Is the Dream by DC3

Josefa, Saturday, 28 November 2020 03:05 (one year ago) link

I can rep for the first couple of Bazooka records. Saw them live opening for fIREHOSE and they came out and did 'Red & the Black' with them at the end of the show.

It did not really happen in a real musical sense on SST, but one can only wonder of the possibilities of the nexus between punk, metal and jazz that was proposed. That is still a road less traveled that might have come up with some interesting music.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 November 2020 03:30 (one year ago) link

"...and they came out and did 'Red & the Black' with them at the end of the show."
Sick

Trip Maker, Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:16 (one year ago) link

It's a fun podcast, with the simmering suspense of how they'll hold up in the ultra-marathoner challenge of post-1989 SST.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:20 (one year ago) link

my buddy is working on an oral history of the south bay punk scene, his instagram is fun for sst related stuff

https://www.instagram.com/i_want_to_be_stereotyped_book/

tylerw, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:23 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

bad brains i against i, black flag damaged and whos got the 10 1/2, descendents liveage and somery, negativland guns!

xzanfar, Monday, 17 May 2021 00:50 (eight months ago) link

5/6ths of the band Slovenly have last names ending with n.

peace, man, Monday, 17 May 2021 11:02 (eight months ago) link

Mojack must be nearly done by now? Imagine those poor guys slogging through the later years of endless Ginn solo records.

I'd add Das Damen - Triskaidekaphobe and Buffalo Tom - S/T

Maresn3st, Monday, 17 May 2021 11:34 (eight months ago) link

Mojack isn't even half-way yet. This week it's SST #174. Surprise! It's yet another Zoog Rift album (Son of Puke). I skip over the episodes that don't have interviews, but some of the folks they've been talking to are incredible.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 05:41 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

never seen film of these boys before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjV0HtVsQWU

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:22 (one week ago) link

moments like that they sound like sst's answer to the clean or something

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:30 (one week ago) link

the answer to the question is Zen Arcade

akm, Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:32 (one week ago) link

angst is great — i love lite life!

best sst band was slovenly, hands down.

wolfman jack kerouac, the nonviolent unabomber. (Austin), Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:16 (one week ago) link

Oh? How so? You've got me intrigued.

dow, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:33 (one week ago) link

How does it fit into what they do? I've never heard them.

dow, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:34 (one week ago) link

i <3 Slovenly so much :)

Dow, they kind of sound like pere ubu or the magic band circa ice cream for crow but also they feel like they're related to british post-punk stuff like the fall or wire without really sounding anything like either (they did cover the blue orchids though). Anyhow check out the albums 'thinking of empire' and 'riposte' - the way the band meshes together on those records is a thing of joy and beauty for me, especially the drums and the way the guitars weave round them

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:04 (one week ago) link

here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCQJvZJfFKE

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:05 (one week ago) link

the bands they remind me of most are the wolfhounds, the blue aeroplanes, life without buildings

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:09 (one week ago) link

I particularly liked Overpass (post–Slovenly band, most of the same guys)

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:09 (one week ago) link

(oh they weren’t on SST tho)

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:10 (one week ago) link

new alliance though right?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:10 (one week ago) link

Their first LP, yeah. The second one was on Smells Like

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:16 (one week ago) link

oh i never heard that!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 9 January 2022 20:17 (one week ago) link


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