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There isn't one of these in the S/D archive. Tell me about em. They've popped up in conversation over the years, but I've never actively listened to them until just ONE track on the orbital back-to-mine. Niiiice.

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

prog prog prog prog prog prog prog

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The first five or so albs (up to 'Phaedra' anyway) are all CLASSIC - long slooooooooow drifty droney stuff, although the first rec, 'Electronic Meditation', is a little bit more rock/avant freaky. My all-time fave wld prob. be 'Zeit', but they're all worth a listen, that is if you like yr music to send you floating into the vastness of space blah blah. But after that, buyer v. much beware!

A lot of their early solo recs are gd too - I really like 'Aqua' by Edgar Froese, as well as most of the early Klaus Schulze recs. Schulze, btw, is one of the most underrated kit drummers of all time - the first 'Ash Ra Temple' alb is most urgent and key.

Andrew L, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Rubicon's OK - primitive sequences etc, but then I discovered that Raymond Scott had done it 10 years before them.

Jez, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, what's up with Raymond Scott not being a household name? But anyway, I like "Atem" most of the TD I've heard. "Zeit", "Phaedra" and "Rubycon" also good.

dleone, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked the Legend soundtrack back in the eighties, but at the time I had heard nothing else by them...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Phaedra's probably still the favourite round Sean C way: great keyboard walls without being too overwhelming or cheesy. Much of the later material is just too new agey, though there are some glimmers of hope, including Hyperborea (if'n you like the Jarre-style dancey keyboard numbers) and maybe Le Parc (bits of which are very similar to the band's soundtrack work on Risky Business). If you're looking for a good overview of the Virgin keyboard years, Dream Sequence has a pretty good selection, tho it may be pricey. The later stuff on Jive, Private and beyond can be a bit too sterile and yuppie.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love electronic meditation's total wailing freak out and various bits of the next 3 albums but the whole plodding sequenced drive is just plain boring after a while, I do still have a rather embarissing affection for 'song of the whale 1&2'..... Sadly new age gave TD a bad name and frankly Edgar Froese should have given it up years ago.

el wanko, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

you can't go wrong with the first 3 or 4 albums plus the "alpha centauri" 7" (which, like the first, is almost "rock"). honorable mention to fenriz of darkthrone's (intentional?) TD tribute band neptune towers...

your null fame, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Out of the one's I've heard so far:

Search: Phaedra, Rubycon, Stratosfear, Alpha Centauri, Zeit, Cyclone (hey, it's different), either Ricochet or Encore (you don't need both- -they're practically the same damn album, except Encore's a double), Logos, soundtrack to Legend. Froese's solo albums Aqua and Stuntman are great as well.

Destroy: Electronic Meditation, Le Parc, Tyranny of Beauty and probably everything else they've released since 1985

Neither: Force Majeure, soundtracks to Sorceror and Flashpoint

Joe, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey! You're all forgetting they did the theme tune to Streethawk.

For the unenlightened this was one of the *cough*, better, Knight Rider rip-offs.

I bought a few of the early albums in a Cope inspired binge about 5 years ago, I found them quite unremarkable really - except for the track 'Fly and Collision of Comas Sola' on 'Alpha Centauri' which I listened to a lot at the time. If I recall correctly it had this incredible drum-lead crescendo. I'll have to dig the albums out and give them another list

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I think, thanks to Julian Cope, that early Tangerine Dream is a mite over-rated - like Ash Ra Tempel (also over-rated) they seemed to spend most of their time rewriting "Saucerful of Secrets" and regurgitating the more "cosmic" parts of "Ummagumma" and "More". For the record, I find "Electronic Meditation" to be rough as a badger's arse and about as listenable, while "Alpha Centauri" is especially sub-Floydian. But "Atem" is pretty good and "Zeit" is genuinely otherworldly (and miles better than Klaus Schulze) - even if they've merely started plagiarising Gyorgy Ligeti as well Floyd. "Phaedra" is good but I find "Rubycon" even better - thereafter all their albums are the same up to the early 1980's, after that you'd be better off listening to a kettle boiling. Ciao.

KCoyne, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I like some of thier movie sound tracks. Check out Miracle Mile, or Risky Business.

A Nairn, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Lester Bangs' rave up

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 August 2002 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

As usual, early TD is way overrated and later TD is way underrated. I personally prefer the turn-of-the 80s Tangerine Dream - my 3 favorite TD albums are Green Desert, Exit, and Tangram.

I can't say I'm not into it all, though - even the later stuff. I find it difficult to pick on TD, I don't know why "new age" (if that is indeed what they are) is such a dirty term. Sometimes I'm in the mood to listen to an album like Underwater Sunlight or Tyranny of Beauty, or Optical Race and Melrose for that matter.

patrick, Friday, 23 August 2002 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I adore Zeit and Phaedra.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 23 August 2002 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

They went into a sort of uninspired loop, I think, but they did a lot of good stuff before that. I guess they just built up so much momentum they had to go on whatever happened. :)

The ones I like:

Zeit: recently heard this. Very much better than I thought it would be, not the semi-shambles of other early stuff, and also as beatifully alien as Stratosfear.

My favourites are these:
Phaedra - like some nebula with a new star in it.
Rubicon - like that star is fully formed, now getting rid of the gas and dust that came before.
Ricochet - Steady radiance. Someone said it was like Encore.. It's not. It's better by far. :)
Stratosfear - Doesn't stand too much repeated listening, but is still the strongest work, maybe. Some of those tunes seem like the kind of magic that ought to move big rocks.
Force Majeure - good, but they leave a good idea too soon instead of developing it. I like the Bach-like counterpoint stuff at the end, but not as much as the rock in the middle. Cloudburst Flight is the best. If I had to have just one single track by TD, it's that one. :)
Tangram - Intricate stuff, like origami, and small machines.
White Eagle - Mojave Plan is special to me, mainly for the arid opening and the bassline at the end that seems like a low flight along the course of a desert pipeline.
Cyclone - Which has one amazing track: Madrigal Meridian. If they'd not changed their course as a result of public displeasure with this, it might have meant TD being far more inventive now than they became. The weird baroque goings on with the lyricon and the clavichord and hurdy-gurdy sounds at the end are like some beatiful new tree that sadly got cut up. It should have been allowed to grow.
Poland - I love this. It seems to be one of the truly inspired and vivid things they've done live.
Exit - I've heard the Orbital, Back To Mine CD too. :) They chose the wrong track! Should have been 'Remote Viewing'. That is a far stronger piece.

I'd best stop there. :))
I came looking for a thread on the Great Never Mind The Bollocks Debate. :) Got a bit sidetracked. The Pistols are special too, so, back to business...

The Doctor, Wednesday, 4 September 2002 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

They have a load of original pressings in Sister Ray for 9.99 each. Should I? I can't remember which ones, but jusdging by typography, they looked pretty early. They definitely had Phaedra. Should I jump in there?

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Pressings? You mean vinyl? There was a thread recently about a just released compilation that has all 4 of their early albums for much cheapness

TS: Alan Stivell - A l'Olympia vs. Magma - Live/Hhaï (Dada), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, original 70s vinyl. (Or that's what the ticket says). So I was thinking half from wanting to hear them and half from nerdy, object- fetish collectorism.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

2nd hand? I've got an original "Zeit", which I love and cherish in a nerdy, object-fetish collector type way

TS: Alan Stivell - A l'Olympia vs. Magma - Live/Hhaï (Dada), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Yup 2nd hand. About 8 records in all, so must have been one guy's collection.

So you'd recommend Zeit, then? Anyone care to elaborate on the descriptions above, or should I search for the other thread?

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Poland - I love this. It seems to be one of the truly inspired and vivid things they've done live.

I got an original pressing of this last year in Krakow, and it has been one of my constant companions since. Especially the track "Horizon." I like some of their other stuff, but this is what I consider their 'gem,' so to speak.

trees (treesessplode), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

there's a cd out there called "an introduction to..." by tangerine dream that gives you a pretty good idea of all their eras.

i like the cheesy 80s shit way more than i "should"

M@tt He1geson, Rendolent Ding-Dong (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

every second of Stratosfear is brilliant. This is stage when TD finally hatched from their ambient phase and added more instruments like grand piano and a gong to cut more diverse, orchestrated work. There are these underlying harmonica sounds that seem like they're recorded through miles of metal tubes. The "The Big Sleep in Search of Hades" is dramatically swoon-worthy.

It was my first T. Dream album and remains my favorite. I've recently discovered that my city library has a copy of the bootleg box set! Worth checking out.

lukeeluke (soulex45), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I have Atem, Alpha Centauri and Zeit and love all three.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I like these live boots even better than what's on the two bootleg box sets... they cover the earlier period. wilder / better, if lower fidelity than the studio records.


milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
I think Force Majeure might be one of the best albums ever.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 28 April 2007 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i think "rubycon" / "stratosfear" are the best, though i'm still trying to really absorb "atem" and "force majeure"

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Stratosfear is brilliant. as is Atem. And I like Electronic Meditation.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

And Ash Ra Temple are great. Not overrated.

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"electronic meditation" sounds to me more like those early road cone kraftwerk albums ("vol 1 + vol 2")

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Hmmmmmmmmm, I thought I knew "Statosfear" but I'd never heard it before. I don't like it, it sounds like soundtrack music - but not in a good way. They just can't write decent melodies, the melodies they do write are so banal, and the synths are edging towards cheesiness. They still did some good music after this tho.

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 September 2007 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I prefer mid period Tangerine Dream. Those late 70s/early 80s albums. Lost of great arpeggio synths.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Stratosfear is great!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Wallpaper prog.

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 September 2007 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

S: Edgar Froese's first few solo records. More mellotron, less rock. More pleasure.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I feel like an idiot for not having gotten around to this music. Which albums sound the most like TD trying to be Steve Reich as in the Risky Business soundtrack?

Shh! It's NOT Me!, Sunday, 28 December 2008 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

their soundtrack to thief makes every scene feel like it's the big final end scene

burt_stanton, Sunday, 28 December 2008 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Which albums sound the most like TD trying to be Steve Reich as in the Risky Business soundtrack?

I don't know Hyperborea, but I haven't heard anything else from them that sounds like the Risky Business stuff.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 28 December 2008 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sequent C'" is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard.

Turangalila, Sunday, 28 December 2008 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I love everything they did in the 70s, including the one with vocals.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 28 December 2008 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just picked up Zeit, Phaedra, Rubycon and Stratosfear for $5 each at a used shop, finally. I've been waiting for a good point to jump into the TD discography, and this seemed as good a chance as any, so here I go...

ilxor, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

cant argue with those albums. You need Force Majeure though.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll keep my eye out!

ilxor, Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Pity spotify doesnt work in america, theres loads of TD on it. Sadly the 1st 5 arent but the ones you mentioned are on it, most of the other 70s stuff is on it as well as the dodgy 80s stuff.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I've become a big fan of Green Desert over the last few years. It's prime era 70s TD that wasn't released until the mid 80s. And it has DRUMS.

Nate Carson, Monday, 9 March 2009 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dolphin Dance" from the Underwater Sunlight LP is a banger.

uncannydan, Monday, 9 March 2009 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

man "Lana" is so great

butthurt (deej), Sunday, 30 August 2009 05:11 (twelve years ago) link

New box set coming 10/30: Pilots of Purple Twilight - The Virgin Recordings 1980-1983. Big headline: includes the music from The Keep!


CD 1: Tangram
01 “Tangram Set 1″
02 “Tangram Set 2″

CD 2: Thief
01 “Beach Theme”
02 “Dr. Drestructo”
03 “Diamond Diary”
04 “Burning Bar”
05 “Beach Scene”
06 “Scrap Yard”
07 “Trap Feeling”
08 “Igneous”
Bonus track:
09 “Dr. Destructo (extended version)” (promo only)

CD 3: Exit
01 “Kiew Mission”
02 “Pilots Of Purple Twilight”
03 “Choronzon”
04 “Exit”
05 “Network 23″
06 “Remote Viewing”

CD 4: White Eagle
01 “Mojave Plan”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “Convention Of The 24″
04 “White Eagle”
Bonus tracks:
05 “Das Mädchen auf der Treppe”
06 “Flock”
07 “Katja”
08 “Speed”
Taken from the 12-inch EP Das Mädchen auf der Treppe, released in Germany as Virgin 600 651 in May 1982. Previously unreleased on CD.
09 “Daydream”
10 Moorland”
A & B-sides of single – Released in Germany as Virgin 105 271 in May 1983.

CD 5: The Soldier soundtrack
Recorded in 1981 / 1982 at Polygon Studio and Amber Studio in West Berlin.
Final mixing at Amber Studio, West-Berlin in June 1982
01 “Main titles”
02 “Cue #1 – variation on Logos #1″
03 “Cue #2 – variation on Horizon #1″
04 “Cue #3 – The Soldier #1″
05 “Cue #4 – variation on Dolphin Dance”
06 “Cue #5 – variation on Tangent #1″
07 “Cue #6 – The Soldier #2″
08 “Cue #7 – The Soldier #3″
09 “Cue #8 – The Soldier #4″
10 “Cue #9 – The Soldier #5″
11 “Cue #10 – variation on Horizon #2″
12 “Cue #11 – The Soldier #6″
13 “Cue #12 – The Soldier #7″
14 “Cue #13 – variation on Logos #2″
15 “Cue #14 – The Soldier #8″
16 “Cue #15 – variation on Horizon #3″
17 “End Titles”

CD 6: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part One”

CD 7: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part Two”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “White Eagle”
04 “Dominion”

CD 8: Logos Live
01 “Logos (Part 1)”
02 “Logos (Part 2)”
03 “Dominion”

CD 9: Hyperborea
01 “No Man’s Land”
02 “Hyperborea”
03 “Cinnamon Road”
04 “Sphinx Lightning”
Bonus tracks:
05 “The Dream Is Always The Same”
06 “No Future (Get Off The Babysitter)”
07 “Guido The Killer Pimp”
08 “Lana”
09 “Love On A Real Train (Risky Business)”
Taken from the soundtrack album Risky Business

CD 10: The Keep
Soundtrack to the 1983 film directed by Michael Mann
Previously unreleased
01 “Puer Natus Est Nobis” (Gloria) (Thomas Tallis, arr. Edgar Froese)
02 “Arx Allemand” (Edgar Froese)
03 “Truth And Fiction” (Edgar Froese)
04 “The Silver Seal” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
05 “Ancient Powerplant” (Edgar Froese)
06 “Supernatural Accomplice” (Edgar Froese)
07 “The Challenger’s Arrival” (Edgar Froese)
08 “Heritage Survival” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
09 “Parallel Words” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
10 “Canzone” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
11 “Voices From A Common Land” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
12 “Wardays Sunrise” (Edgar Froese)
13 “The Night In Romania” (Edgar Froese)

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 11 September 2020 16:31 (one year ago) link

Huge news!!!

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 12 September 2020 02:28 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is the era of TD I listen to the most

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 4 October 2020 05:34 (one year ago) link


and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 4 October 2020 05:50 (one year ago) link

The 'Hades' box is going for a mere £51 on A**zon Germany, if anyone is interested.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 17 October 2020 16:22 (one year ago) link

not anymore it aint.

mark e, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:49 (one year ago) link

So has anyone here checked out 21st Century TD with Yamane, Schnauss and Quaeschning? I'm a fan of the classic Froese era (and a bit beyond the classic era too) but haven't heard anything since he died. Those 6 albums of Sessions look interesting. I wish I'd bought that recent copy of The Wire with the TD cover story but I can never find The Wire out in the wild around here

Also - is it worth making a separate thread for 21st Century TD?

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:23 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I was planning on picking up the standalone Hyperborea CD but apparently it doesn't have the Risky Business stuff.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:46 (one year ago) link

Maybe a licensing thing? The previous batch all had the same extra tracks as the versions included in the box.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Listened to some of this box today on Spotify. The full Dominion “concert” that Logos was pulled from is great, all lush Jupiter 8s, crispy PPG and proto-808 drums. I kind of wish there was some 5.1 stuff to be had on this but appreciate how much unreleased materials they unearthed.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:58 (one year ago) link

Couldn't spring for the box, though I was tempted by all the live material and the fact that I already own the very lush and excellent first box, and I bet they'd look great on the shelf together. I'm still definitely considering purchasing it, especially if I get some additional stimulus money! That's what it's for, right?

I love this period and have never heard the mythical Keep soundtrack. I was initially a little put off by all the 'cues' on the tracklist. Why do I need those? And I already own all of these studio albums on CD. But Logos is one of my favorites, so the idea of the full concert - as well as other full concerts from this period - is very enticing.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:16 (one year ago) link

I'm listening to the Logos concert on Spotify now and it's pretty good. I'm still way more of a fan of their 1970s material than anything after, but this might be something I wind up using as an editing soundtrack (I edit manuscripts all day). I use a lot of those multi-disc Klaus Schulze compilations for that.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:27 (one year ago) link

The Dominion Concert on this set is absolutely fantastic - I've dipped in and out of the rest of the stuff here, but it's this concert that I keep coming back to.

bamboohouses, Thursday, 28 January 2021 11:25 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

did not expect to find this lot in a charity shop today.

Tangerine Dream - Green Desert
Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight
Tangerine Dream - Tyger
Tangerine Dream - Canyon Dreams
Tangerine Dream - Rockoon
Tangerine Dream - Goblins Club
Tangerine Dream - Turn Of The Tides
Tangerine Dream - The Dream Mixes

someone tell me which of these i should prioritise as i have no idea re this era of t'dream.

mark e, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:15 (ten months ago) link

Green Desert is a 1973 recording with 80s overdubs and mix, the rest I haven't heard.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:19 (ten months ago) link

i saw that in the credits re GD.
most weird.
i only know (and love) the Virgin era.
suspect that these will never surpass those albums.
but for 49p each i had to grab them.

mark e, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:24 (ten months ago) link

Underwater sunlight and canyon dreams are both good

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:26 (ten months ago) link

thinking about it now, i think i may actually have US on vinyl.
ta for the pointers JNJ.

mark e, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:30 (ten months ago) link

Supposedly, Rockoon was so bad it caused the Tangerine Dream fanclub to disband in disgust.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:38 (ten months ago) link


i would love that to be true.

so many questions.

- how long before they regrouped ?
- how many members ?
- did they disband after every cr*p album !?

etc etc.

mark e, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:42 (ten months ago) link

Tough call, but I would maybe start with Tyger and Underwater Sunlight

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 19:56 (ten months ago) link

i actually tried the opening track of Tyger on the drive home.
umm .. dreadful vocals.
way way worse than Cyclone which i have got used to.
i guess i need to give the album more listens/time then.

mark e, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 20:00 (ten months ago) link

Tyger is their worst

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 20:08 (ten months ago) link

The Jerome Froese era is really really dicey.
I kind of like:
Mars Polaris/Rocking Mars
Parts of the Dante trilogy
Views From A Red Train
Maybe a couple of others I’m forgetting.
But it would be fair to skip over his tenure entirely to when quashneng (?) became the main partner

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 12 August 2021 19:49 (ten months ago) link

Supposedly, Rockoon was so bad it caused the Tangerine Dream fanclub to disband in disgust.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, August 11, 2021 7:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

When I got into The Notwist circa _Shrink_, found a Geocities fanpage that was being discontinued because the German fan couldn't stomach the electronic direction. The humorless disavowal made me laugh.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 12 August 2021 20:21 (ten months ago) link

Hyperborea : one of the best headphone albums ever ?
quite possibly.

mark e, Friday, 20 August 2021 22:59 (ten months ago) link

Hyperborea rules

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:44 (ten months ago) link

i love how the first two tracks are all spaced-out then "cinnamon road" comes in all electro-pop with that same (or similar) plunky sitar patch moroder was using around that time

clouds, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 02:56 (ten months ago) link

I love that patch

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 14:01 (ten months ago) link

Title track of Hyperborea is underrated:


Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 04:42 (ten months ago) link

not in this house it isn't.
i have heard all the classic Virgin era releases many many times over the years, and yet, Hyperborea is the one I still come back to the most whenever I get the urge to listen to TD.

mark e, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 06:11 (ten months ago) link

white eagle is my favorite

clouds, Friday, 3 September 2021 04:27 (ten months ago) link

Exit is getting a lot of love around here at the moment. Choronzon... wow.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 13:33 (nine months ago) link

yeah, hyperborea, white eagle, and exit = my favourite era.

a few weeks on from the haul, and i am finding these 90s releases nowhere near as painful as i was expecting.
i guess going in with low expectations helped.
even Tyger with more dreaded vocals works for me when in the mood (i.e. hungover sundays), but Underwater Sunlight, Canyon Dreams and the Dream Remixes are definitely the ones i have enjoyed the most.

mark e, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 14:42 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...


When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 16:24 (seven months ago) link

Shame they're only miming!
That's from the era of TV when science shows, science-fiction shows and music shows all shared a similar visual style. From the intro, you could be expecting an astronomy program, or Doctor Who.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 18:46 (seven months ago) link

Shame they're only miming!

Can you really tell?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:51 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, it sounds like playback, albeit a different mix to the LP.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 18 November 2021 13:21 (seven months ago) link

This just popped up on my Spotify:

Probe 6-8 provides a glimpse into the forthcoming Tangerine Dream studio album (due for release in early 2022).

A sequencer driven sound - reminiscent of TD’s early 1970s work - is combined with a lush 1980s crystalline bliss.

The trio of Thorsten Quaeschning, Ulrich Schnauss and Paul Frick has composed and produced Probe 6-8 with full access to Edgar Froese’s Cubase arrangements and Otari Tape Archive (featuring recordings from 1977-2013).

The first track Raum is a nod to the band’s early live studio performances Zeit and Phaedra, utilising a distinctive heavy Moog bass (which marks the beginning and the end of this 15-minute piece).

This new set of recordings also feature two remixes - Berlin-based composer and producer Grand River (Aimée Portioli) has given ‘Raum’ her signature sound and ‘Continuum’ was remixed by Berghain resident and Leisure System co-founder Sam Barker.


I threw it on and … the first track is not bad? The idea that these dudes (none of whom are Froese Jr.) are completing Edgar’s MIDI files is kind of wild. Did they do this on their first posthumously released album?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 November 2021 21:24 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

decided to listen to Raum (2nd album by the "new" TD, and their 237th overall) and you know what, it's pretty good! reminds me of Ulrich Schnauss, even though Schnauss himself is no longer in the band. I think it really does capture the spirit of the group.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:36 (one week ago) link

I've always said, 237th time is the charm! Do you feel that Froese was holding them back at all in their later days?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:18 (one week ago) link

well I can't bring myself to shit talk Froese, but I think there was a tendency for cosmic analog synth pioneers to get lost in the possibility and efficiency of digital electronic music which led them to create a lot of shit directly from their software that sounded like it belonged in a PC game from 1995. it happened to Schulze, it happened to Jarre, it happened to Todd Rundgren, and yeah it definitely happened to Edgar

so I guess I'm not surprised that a revamped TD with no original members would actually sound quite good

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:35 (one week ago) link

The electric violin has been a really good addition for TD.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:56 (one week ago) link

IMO they were abysmal during the Edgar + Jerome lineup, perked up a bit when Quaeshning (sp?) joined, woke up fully when Schnauss was added for Mala Kunia. I expect to like the posthumous stuff when I get around to it!

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:33 (one week ago) link

there are some really well-shot and recorded 2+ hr performances on YouTube featuring the new lineup. no clue where any of the material is from or if it's mostly improv but its good stuff

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:24 (one week ago) link

Listening to Raum now, pretty much what I'd hoped for from the Ulrich Schnauss lineup, thanks.

death generator (lukas), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:57 (one week ago) link

Does this modern version of TD do the Orbital thing and do live remixes or jams on old sequenced or recorded material.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:54 (one week ago) link


The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:54 (one week ago) link

Maybe my favorite record of the last ten years is that Subatomic Sound System 'band' remix based on their touring show with Scratch Perry toasting joining in on top. It's released as Lee "Scratch" Petty - 'Superape Returns to Conquer'.

I thought it was a pretty darn good modern updating of some old sounds. I'd loved to seen that group.

I love Tangerine Dream and actually have a bunch of their stuff on vinyl LP and I dug the couple of Ulrich Schnauss cdS I had from early days, I listened to that 'Far Away Trains Passing By' when I was going on the old IDM bulletin boards that came out of MP3.com and Ampcast and Musika.com. I got on a couple of CDR label comps made by people on the boards.

People like Bola and Ulrich Schauss and whatever Plaid was upto were doing were popular records. Schnauss was definitely in that area like Boards of Canada. That kind of stuff was more home listening music like the 70s records than as much for clubs.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:02 (one week ago) link

Does this modern version of TD do the Orbital thing and do live remixes or jams on old sequenced or recorded material.

I dunno when the last time they played live was but apparently Raum was "composed and produced with full access to Edgar Froese’s Cubase arrangements (and Otari Tape Archive with recordings from 1977-2013)"

death generator (lukas), Sunday, 26 June 2022 03:42 (one week ago) link

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