Primitives - S/D, C/D, etc

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Utterly classic fusing of 60s girl-group vibe with punk energy. I lurve all 3 albums.

And apparently they've reformed! And are working on a covers album, which gives me pause...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:58 (nine years ago) link

Oh cmon there HAS to be a thread on them already.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:00 (nine years ago) link

There is, but it is shared with Transvision Vamp...

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:00 (nine years ago) link

So... LOVE LOVE LOVE *both* versions of "Thru the Flowers" and of course the ORIGINAL version of "Crash" (not the horrible 'soundtrack'? version that removes the pre-chorus guitar melody for no good reason - replacing it with some ponderous slide-guitar nonsense).

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:04 (nine years ago) link

original thread here:
Taking Sides: Transvision Vamp or The Primitives

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:05 (nine years ago) link

Wiki-whoa from "Crash" entry:

In 1994, the song was featured on the Dumb & Dumber movie soundtrack as "Crash - The '95 Mix." This remix included additional guitars, percussion, organ and backing vocals - none of which were performed by any of The Primitives.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:06 (nine years ago) link

"Hey guys, we are so awesome, let's take one of the purest, catchiest pop songs in history and improve it!"

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:07 (nine years ago) link

I bring this up because the soundtrack version is the only one they play on the radio and it makes me crazy!

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:16 (nine years ago) link

Indiepop purists say Pah! to the UK hit single version, and instead proclaim the virtues of the "original" original, the Andy Kershaw Radio 1 session version (fwiw, I think the indiepop purists are wrong about this. But they're serious - I know several people who even now despise the UK single version)

ithappens, Friday, 16 July 2010 08:15 (nine years ago) link

I am going to a festival next week at which the reformed Primitives are playing. I will report back.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 16 July 2010 12:11 (nine years ago) link

Favourite Primitives single, btw

Neither classic nor dud, really. A handful of great songs - and early in their career, when they were like a girl-fronted Ramones, they were a thrilling live band cropping up second or third on the bill at the Hammersmith Clarendon - but a fuck of a lot of filler.

ithappens, Friday, 16 July 2010 12:25 (nine years ago) link

Hadn't ever heard the soundtrack version...yeah, it's gratingly wrong.

Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 16 July 2010 12:27 (nine years ago) link

Indiepop purists say Pah! to the UK hit single version, and instead proclaim the virtues of the "original" original, the Andy Kershaw Radio 1 session version

Have never heard that! Interesting, but not as good.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 July 2010 22:57 (nine years ago) link

I judge the reformed Primitives to be not great.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:08 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

New 7" single, "Never Kill A Secret" is due on 3/7:
1. Rattle My Cage
2. Need All The Help I Can Get
3. Never Kill A Secret
4. Breakaway

I haven't found any sound samples yet...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Just searched for a Primitives thread to show some love for Crash because I think it's one of my favorite songs ever. It rules. That is all.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Their version of "As Tears Go By" is the funniest... Basically, imagine "Crash", but the words and tune of "As tears"...

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:48 (eight years ago) link

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:49 (eight years ago) link

OK yeah, that's pretty funny and kind of awesome at the same time

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:50 (eight years ago) link

My friends and I really liked this band in high school. I will admit that I sort of miss the days when people looked like this. Looking at pictures of late 80s bands like the Primitives, the reptile part of my brain understands the feeling, I dunno, old hippies get when they see what I usually think of as "old hippie pictures" -- like Woodstock shit. It's like a little piece of heaven.

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:51 (eight years ago) link

oh it's so good

if I thought I could get away with that look I would so try it

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 14:54 (eight years ago) link

ep is out on forunta pop!, and there are tour dates :

The Primitives 2011 UK Tour Dates:
Wed 16 March Joiners Arms, Southampton
Thu 17 March Haymakers, Cambridge
Fri 18 March Start the Bus, Bristol
Sat 19 March Fibbers, York
Sun 20 March The Arches, Glasgow
Mon 21 March Moho, Manchester
Wed 23 March Academy, Birmingham
Thu 24 March Garage, London

mark e, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:20 (eight years ago) link

but then again, when i saw them live last (crash was riding high in the charts), i walked out as the volume was too quiet, and they had already been upstaged by goodbye mr. mckenzie (and i was off to go see the bachelor pad who were due on stage at some other venue)

mark e, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:21 (eight years ago) link

Hacked off that I missed them supporting The Wedding Present last December. Really wanted to go to that. Yes I am an ageing indie kid, so what?

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:18 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is actually pretty great

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 March 2011 14:47 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, I went to HMV Oxfors Street, got so lost I ended up in the Singles section.

There it was, the Primitives 7" single. Had I gone back in time?

well, yes, obv.

Mark G, Monday, 7 March 2011 14:54 (eight years ago) link

i enjoyed that.


mark e, Monday, 7 March 2011 14:58 (eight years ago) link

btw I had completely missed the fact they'd reunited until today, so I missed out on the build-up and anticipation of new material...instead, just had it dropped in my lap with this video. But the quality of the song more than makes up for it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 March 2011 14:59 (eight years ago) link

this is when i regret my ineptitude/laziness leading to me being wiped off the fortuna pop promo list.

mark e, Monday, 7 March 2011 15:00 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this is a good EP

la broheme (electricsound), Monday, 28 March 2011 23:32 (eight years ago) link


Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 March 2011 23:35 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

Full new album y'all:

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:55 (seven years ago) link

i loved the 'never kill a secret' ep and would have really dug a whole LP of new material, but i'm not that excited about a covers album tbqh..

the majestic ned? (electricsound), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:56 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

So this album's pretty fun!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:45 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's easy to forget it's a covers album because all the choices are pretty relatively obscure tracks..

the sunno)))boys (electricsound), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Song by song take by Paul here:

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:03 (seven years ago) link

Wow, that alternate mix of "crash" is so horrible! I don't think I've ever heard that before. Original is so classic. I have the record that that's on, have put it on a few times and always been kind of disappointed but not enough to throw it in my next garage sale.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:54 (seven years ago) link

And hi there!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:51 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

new single is pretty nice - in fact i like it way more than the covers album

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 04:28 (six years ago) link

What new single?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 05:06 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The new single's pretty good! Pity it's not on Amazon US, these regional issues don't help the industries coffers.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 16 March 2013 17:44 (six years ago) link

New 2CD reissue of Lovely coming out in June. Wonder if the 2nd CD will have any studio stuff on it that hasn't been on the previous compilations.

OutdoorFish, Friday, 29 March 2013 11:02 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Pure is one of my few all-time summer albums. I can only listen to it in August and I listen to it every August.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:39 (six years ago) link

Looking forward to the deluxe reissues of it!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 3 August 2013 19:35 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

New album, "Spin-O-Rama" is due out next month. Lead single is great fizzy pop:

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:04 (five years ago) link

It is weird they're using the "spin" thing along with "let's go round" in the lyrics because it's going to make everyone think of the Darling Buds.

everything, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:17 (five years ago) link


a cheese has occurred (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:28 (five years ago) link

but the Darling Buds make you think of the Primitives.

That's a recursive spin, definitely...

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 10:39 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

jazzed for the new album. on the covers album i don't think they had any renditions as good as their Tears Go By.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:10 (five years ago) link

The new album is fantastic! It renews my faith in reformations, it's just so damn fun. Paul's songs are particularly good. Fuzzy girl-group goodness.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:56 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

yeah this album is really really good. ironically my favourite (though it's tough competition) track is the one that the bloke sings

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Thursday, 19 March 2015 09:24 (four years ago) link

one year passes...
eight months pass...

New EP out now!

Jealous to see that they've got a few California dates planned for next month. Loved seeing them in NY in 2010.

early rejecter, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:36 (two years ago) link

It's more goodness from the Prims. Anyone know what triggered the reformation in the first place? Definitely one of the most satisfying ever.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:32 (two years ago) link

Jealous to see that they've got a few California dates planned for next month.

I need to look into that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:35 (two years ago) link

Anyone know what triggered the reformation in the first place?

From what I've read Paul (guitar) was considering trying to get everyone together for a 20th anniversary Lovey celebration in 2008, but dropped the idea when he found out Tracy was living in Argentina. But he got in touch with her the following year when their original bassist died, and by then she'd returned to Coventry. A local gallery was organizing an exhibit on the Coventry music scene that year and invited them to take part and it all followed from there.

early rejecter, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:53 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Attention must be paid: I heard "Crash" last night in a public setting for the first time ever, the restaurant we go to after golf. I asked the waitress where their music was coming from--a streaming service, their own mix, etc.--but she never got back to me.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:39 (four months ago) link

Anyone else willing to rep for "Galore"? It was totally ignored when it came out - no US release, guess it was subsumed by the grunge wave. But it's always been just as vital to me as their first two.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:09 (four months ago) link

I keep "Lead Me Astray" on my hard drive--love that.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:25 (four months ago) link

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