Max Richter C/D/S/D

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really digging the two albums i've heard on Fat Cat. 24 Postcards In Full Colour and The Blue Notebooks. So beautiful. minimal/ambient/mod classical people would like them a bunch. but so would, i dunno, durutti column fans or people who like that sorta sad 4AD instrumental vibe. shit, i don't even know if that is true. whatever. I like these CDs a bunch. there is definitely some glass/eno/budd/part/etc thing going on. very warm and rich too. maybe too warm and rich for people who like to get itchy with their mod sounds.

never heard his stuff with future sound of london or roni size. i kinda feel like i don't have to. didn't hear the vashti bunyan album he produced. never heard his previous group Piano Circus. might be interested in hearing some of that stuff. he produced an album for the lead singer of the sneaker pimps in 2008! i definitely want to hear his other solo CDs, memoryhouse and songs from before.

the two i have heard are just really really well-made mood music albums. and i mean that in the best possible way.

i take it back about durutti column. stoner satie fans would like these albums a bunch.

he studied with berio. eluvium fans would dig these.

scott seward, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

some of his music was in shutter island.

wife made me turn it off once, said it was the saddest thing she ever heard or something close to that.

••• ▄█▀ █▄ █▄█ ▀█▀ ▄█▀ ••• (m bison), Monday, 5 July 2010 19:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

according to wiki, the same song, "on the nature of daylight", was used in shutter island and stranger than fiction, the will ferrell movie.

scott seward, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

check out the soundtrack to waltz with bashir....and the film if you've not seen. so good.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 5 July 2010 19:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khWenWZToLE

so amazing

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 5 July 2010 19:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

will do!

scott seward, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

he definitely gets his Glass on in a big way at times, but that's cool with me.

scott seward, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Blue Notebooks cropped up in a couple of end-of-decade albums lists and I noted it down as something to check out but I still haven't got around to actually buying or hearing it. I don't have a clue about modern classical/experimental stuff really but Durutti Column, Satie, sounds good to me.

Gavin in Leeds, Monday, 5 July 2010 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's definitely not experimental fwiw.

i like the blue notebooks ok, it's just fine. hated the record he did with robert wyatt though.

jed_, Monday, 5 July 2010 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

new album sounds really good. the description does. haven't heard it yet.

http://www.digitalisindustries.com/foxyd/reviews.php?which=5694

scott seward, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

<3 this guy. 24 Postcards is great

MAX From Halifax (admrl), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

24 postcards is good. i like how some of it sounds like it should be soundtracking an o2 advert or something

不合作的方式 (r1o natsume), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think "stoner satie" is an excellent description

不合作的方式 (r1o natsume), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

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orchestral manure in the dark (corey), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

With regards to Piano Circus (the 6 keyb ensemble MR headed), I'm quite fond of their recording of Riley's In C b/w Reich's Six Marimbas. It's not startling or textural, but the small ensemble size (synth piano, rhodes, harpsichords, marimba or maybe xylophone as I recall), dry soundstage and short 20 min length highlights the composition and construction more than the dozen+ large ensemble CD length renditions do. It would be my pick for the Riley recording in a minimalism survey course.

ὑστέρησις (Sanpaku), Monday, 12 July 2010 14:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

24 postcards is good. i like how some of it sounds like it should be soundtracking an o2 advert or something

i agree tho i thought more an ad for a cancer charity...(tho o2's usual feel on their ads is weirdly medical)

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 22:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

the waltz with bashir soundtrack is great though I think thats really how the guys music works best. Saw him a few years ago at some big do at the barbican (possibly that big all dat vashti bunyan love in) and thought he was dull dull dull, spare piano over trip hop presets. Though maybe it was because of all that freaky deeky folk framing it.

straightola, Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

pretty sure infra is my most-listened-to album of the year, so great

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 9 August 2010 09:22 (six years ago) Permalink

24 Postcards and The Blue Notebooks are aces.

nothingleft (gravydan), Monday, 9 August 2010 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

24 postcards is good. i like how some of it sounds like it should be soundtracking an o2 advert or something

Maybe you know this but the tracks on that album were designed to be ringtones.

Number None, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Memoryhouse, the first album reissued a while back, is pretty great, too.

24 Postcards is nice, but there's not enough room to enjoy each track before the next begins.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 9 August 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pOTN4Oltk4

this is consistently one of my favourite pieces of music...amazing. just so utterly understated and beautiful, it just unfolds.

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

That damn crow gets me every time

Number None, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:23 (six years ago) Permalink

One of the wnyc djs is a big champion of him. I especially like On the Nature of Daylight, November, and Autumn 1 & 2.

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:51 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

so glad I stayed to see his set last night (the show was running over by nearly 2 hours by that point). The strings sounded beautiful.

does anyone know if it is always the same bunch of musicians who play with him.

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 9 May 2011 07:51 (six years ago) Permalink

No, they were a string quartet brought in for the event specifically.

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 9 May 2011 08:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i wish i could like this dude but i just find his stuff so nice i can't stand it-- it brings out all my latent middle-aged-classical-music snob tendencies, i start thinking pejoratively about film soundtracks. there never seems to be anything difficult in it that you could get your teeth into, it is all terribly sad strings being very efficiently emotive.

górecki's zygotic mynci (c sharp major), Monday, 9 May 2011 09:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Even 'The Blue Notebooks'? That doesn't sound like a particularly nice record to me; hence, it's also my favourite. It's dark and has got rough edges. I do know what you mean thoughg, his work after TBN became more 'nice'.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 May 2011 09:18 (six years ago) Permalink

mind you istr that the last time i saw him he was also using recordings of people talking about their memories of something or other over sobby strings and perhaps also a beat, so i'm glad that extra layer of ~evocative~ effect has been sloughed off.

górecki's zygotic mynci (c sharp major), Monday, 9 May 2011 09:19 (six years ago) Permalink

even the rough edges sound 'nice' to me, is the thing! i mean, i also do not like tone poems particularly: there is a certain aesthetic that they share that i find unsatisfying.

górecki's zygotic mynci (c sharp major), Monday, 9 May 2011 09:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I understand what you mean, in that on his work after The Blue Notebooks it all sounds very 'clean', as an 'emotive schtick'. I've never seen Max Richter live and regardless of what I've read about it, I would go in an instant just to experience it, but it's a shame even his live performances aren't a bit more 'adventurous'.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 May 2011 09:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i agree he's pretty easy-going and easy to like—doesn't mean Infra wasn't one of the best damn things i heard last year. also played Songs from Before the other day and it held up nicely.

ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 9 May 2011 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm listening to Recomposed by Max Richter: Vivaldi's Four Seasons and I think I love it. It's very Max Richter-y, that's for sure.

carl agatha, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:51 (four years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

i've been listening to the four seasons thing too and i'm pretty in love w. it

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:36 (four years ago) Permalink

c# major otm
I find it frustrating that his music has become the token "new music" programming choice for many ensembles, but hey, whatever sells tickets I guess
I said "frustrating" because it frustrates me, some more invested new music people get livid at the mere mention

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:55 (four years ago) Permalink

being a dilettante has its advantages

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:58 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm a rap dilettante but that doesn't mean I like Dan Black

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 June 2013 23:32 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know who that is

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 June 2013 23:53 (four years ago) Permalink

He's a guy who "recomposed" Hypnotize

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:04 (four years ago) Permalink

i really wish i hadn't googled that

idgi do you think richter's recomposed thing sucks musically or is it just he's too pop or getting too much attention or not like TRV KVLT klassical or what?

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm a classical dilettante and entirety-of-music wise I like pretty much everything with little discernment, but I really can't stand the 'nice' areas of modern classical. To a completely unreasonable degree. I'd like to punch Arvo Part right on his big bald head. I think I have anger issues.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:52 (four years ago) Permalink

hmmm i think it's best if i go back to not reading or knowing anything abt classical music

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2013 02:01 (four years ago) Permalink

ha, no don't listen to me, I'm just a ridiculous bigot on this matter.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 21 June 2013 02:06 (four years ago) Permalink

I have no problem with poppy classical music! And "getting too much attention" doesn't compute for me either, seeing as when it comes to something as fringe as new chamber music, getting asses in seats trumps all, afaic. If I were curating a new music festival in like Pittsburgh I'd probably program his stuff for that reason alone.

But it's not for me, not at all. His music seeks to evoke only the most basic emotional response to the point that I suspect he might be a cynic. And the Recomposed piece reminds me too much of late 20th-c chamber music that reworks source material under the guise of 'legitimizing' or 'updating'. So-called post-modern composers who don't understand that recontextualization works best when it creates dissonance? or something at least new? Recomposed is imho an exemplar of a worthless piece of post-modernity, as there's nothing of what's good about new music in it, and nothing of what's good about Vivaldi in it, and there's nothing new created. But like I said, just because I generally don't like his music doesn't mean I don't respect the guy, there is literally no living composer of chamber music who doesn't have something about them I admire, even if that admiration is limited to the fact that they produce work.

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 21 June 2013 02:12 (four years ago) Permalink

I mean, I don't listen to Pärt but I'd probably let him buy me dinner before I thought about punching him

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 21 June 2013 02:13 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

so thats him on 'the leftovers' huh

am0n, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 21:17 (two years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

news just in :

One of Britain’s leading contemporary composers has written what is thought to be the longest single piece of music ever to be recorded. SLEEP is eight hours long – and is genuinely intended to send the listener to sleep.

“It’s an eight-hour lullaby,” says its composer, Max Richter.

The landmark work is scored for piano, strings, electronics and vocals – but no words. “It’s my personal lullaby for a frenetic world,” he says. “A manifesto for a slower pace of existence.”

SLEEP will receive its world premiere this September in Berlin, in a concert performance lasting from 12 midnight to 8am at which the audience will be given beds instead of seats and programmes. The eight-hour version will be available as a digital album, and for those who prefer it, a one-hour adaptation of the work – from SLEEP – will be released on CD, vinyl, download, and streaming formats, all through Deutsche Grammophon, on 4 September.

mark e, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 10:15 (two years ago) Permalink

what is thought to be the longest single piece of music ever to be recorded

ummmm

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:11 (two years ago) Permalink

i too wondered about that.

even with my ltd knowledge, there is the flaming lips track,7 skies h3, that easily breaks 8 hours ..

mark e, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:13 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Have been listening to the eight and a half hour version the last few nights (and days). Epic and absolutely beautiful.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 08:22 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Have been loving the short version, 'From Sleep', so have taken the plunge on downloading the 8-hr version.

The stream of the liver 8-hr performance is available here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06db5tv

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 October 2015 03:39 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

they played part of it on a liver?

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

oh, they got a liver to play it

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

anyway i decided to sleep to 'sleep' last night and this morning i feel very refreshed!

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:49 (one year ago) Permalink

it's very weird to be able to say: yeah, i guess this piece of music is fit for purpose

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 25 October 2015 23:49 (one year ago) Permalink

so is there some nefarious or otherwise method of downloading this?

écorché (S-), Thursday, 29 October 2015 02:53 (one year ago) Permalink

You can legit get it from iTunes for £25 which is pretty steep I think.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 29 October 2015 03:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Do you mean the BBC live version? Try get_iplayer from https://squarepenguin.co.uk/ (it's freeware, only downloads radio programs if, like me, you're outside the UK)

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 29 October 2015 03:34 (one year ago) Permalink

I looked yesterday and its no longer on iPlayer - only available for 30 days.

koogs, Thursday, 29 October 2015 07:02 (one year ago) Permalink

why would the usual nefarious means of downloading it not work

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:11 (one year ago) Permalink

listened to it again the next night, by the way: it 'worked' but i had less ~feelings~ about it, and i enjoyed the at-length ambient reprise of the opening piano way, way less. also i now keep expecting guy to actually start playing the aria from the goldberg variations on the first track, so, yeah, idk. the night after that i listened to susanne sundfor, which did not benefit my sleep; last night i had no music at all, and dreams sufficiently emotionally draining that i couldn't face getting out of bed for a good while after i woke up.

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:13 (one year ago) Permalink

i guess this record is very typical of richter's sound but it's prob the pinnacle of his career i think, after a few listens to the 8-hour version. some of it is just jaw-dropping.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i have fell asleep to this several times. i have absolutely nothing to say about it except that the first 20 minutes is pretty good. i'm assuming he put a lot of effort into that first track because it's the only one a lot of people will hear

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:47 (one year ago) Permalink

i like music for sleep now and again but i would never put on something i knew was 8 hours long. i've been listening while i'm awake to make the world feel more soporific.

i really like the religious feel of some of it.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:52 (one year ago) Permalink

i have fell asleep to this several times. i have absolutely nothing to say about it except that the first 20 minutes is pretty good. i'm assuming he put a lot of effort into that first track because it's the only one a lot of people will hear

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol yeah

i'm ... not convinced this is actually good in any other context

thwomp (thomp), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:22 (one year ago) Permalink

by virtue of the fact it's music, I am fairly sure its main purpose won't be putting it on to aid sleeping, not least since you wouldn't hear most of it, as mentioned, but ymmv. I can think of music that I'd rather sleep to, there's actually quite a lot going on in this.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 08:21 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm on a big ambient kick so gave this a try. not familiar with richter otherwise. finding it oppressive and bland.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 12 November 2015 23:50 (one year ago) Permalink

pointless generic heaviness, the musical equivalent of unisom. sitting through church.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 12 November 2015 23:54 (one year ago) Permalink

it definitely isn't ambient

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 13 November 2015 00:17 (one year ago) Permalink

trying to come to terms with / wrap my head around this is like ODing on STARS of the LID in total bliss

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 November 2015 03:41 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

So ... buy the single CD version, the eight CD version or buy something on Erased Tapes?

djh, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 21:30 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Kind of surprised with myself for not buying this (in any format). Think I'm slightly put off by the novelty. Does anyone really like it?

djh, Friday, 3 June 2016 22:03 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Live show at Blenheim Palace, in June:

http://serious.org.uk/events/max-richter-ensemble-1

djh, Sunday, 29 January 2017 01:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Sleep is a great album. I keep listening to it.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 29 January 2017 03:31 (five months ago) Permalink

Waking up for the last hour of Sleep is pretty nice.

spastic heritage, Sunday, 29 January 2017 04:57 (five months ago) Permalink

The album release of Woolf Works has been timed to coincide with the stage revival:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22783-three-worlds-music-from-woolf-works/

I saw it last night and it's rather lovely. The Pitchfork review of the soundtrack gets it about right.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Friday, 3 February 2017 20:53 (five months ago) Permalink

Yes, that review is fairly spot-on.

djh, Monday, 6 February 2017 23:34 (five months ago) Permalink

What film/TV work is his is best? I have the proper albums, but haven't listened to any of his scores yet.

spastic heritage, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 02:12 (five months ago) Permalink

(Completely messed up the wording there, but you know what I meant.)

spastic heritage, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 02:13 (five months ago) Permalink

I've yet to hear a single pop-cum-classical blend that transcends generic millennial prettiness™. If anything, Richter is among the worst offenders: his recontextualizations are utterly gratuitous, a pot pourri of 'greatest hits for strings and a wistful piano, from the baroque to the post-Khrushchevian… over a bed of bleep-bloopy sounds indicative of our undying postmodernism!' At their best, his models are far more compelling, especially the Eastern Europeans (barring a name or two, I've little patience for NYC's repetitive music scene). Unfortunately, however, Richter appears to have a preference for Pärt & co.'s laziest gestures, which does a disservice to all involved.

pomenitul, Sunday, 12 February 2017 15:27 (five months ago) Permalink

If I really enjoy his music but don't know enough to critically break down the parts, does that matter? If it sounds good to me, does it need to do anything else?

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 12 February 2017 18:52 (five months ago) Permalink

I love this guy. I don't spend a lot of time analyzing his music, though; it mostly just sounds great when I'm writing / working / reading / getting sleepy

Wimmels, Sunday, 12 February 2017 19:57 (five months ago) Permalink

pomenitul what are the barred names? asking for serious

adam, Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:41 (five months ago) Permalink

Pomenitul - I'm intrigued ... I'd (genuinely) love to hear some recommendations. (This is completely non-snarky ... Over on the "classical music you buy from Boomkat" thread, I have wondered about the idea that there might be *better stuff* that I'm missing).

djh, Monday, 13 February 2017 21:40 (five months ago) Permalink

Some album suggestions—

Conventionally pretty, melodically-oriented 'classical' music from the past 50 years or so:

Ole Buck, Landscapes
Victor Kissine, Between Two Waves
Alexander Knaifel, Svete Tikhiy
Kate Moore, Dances and Canons
Octavian Nemescu, Musique pour réveil
Hans Otte, Das Buch der Klänge (Herbert Henck)
Arvo Pärt, Tabula rasa
Doina Rotaru, L'éternel retour
Valentin Silvestrov, Piano Sonatas & Cello Sonata (Alexei Lubimov & Ivan Monighetti)
Howard Skempton, Lento
Toru Takemitsu, riverrun / Water-ways / Rain Coming / Rain Spell / Tree Line
Anna S. Þorvaldsdóttir, In the Light of Air

Slightly further afield:

Hans Abrahamsen, Schnee
Jérôme Combier, Gone
Pascal Dusapin, O Mensch!
Sofia Gubaidulina, The Canticle of the Sun / Music for Strings, Celesta and Percussion (Mstislav Rostropovich, et al.)
Saed Haddad, Les deux visages de l'Orient
Marko Nikodijević, dark/rooms
Per Nørgård, Works for Harp and Ensemble
Bent Sørensen, Mignon
Haukur Tómasson, Flute Concertos 1 & 2 / Skima
Helena Tulve, Sula

It goes without saying that there is infinitely more to contemporary 'classical' music, but since we're discussing Max Richter's output, I'd argue that these records broadly adhere to a more or less 'traditional' conception of aesthetic beauty (especially the former list). As a side note—and this is no coincidence—quite a few of them are from ECM's catalogue.

pomenitul, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:23 (five months ago) Permalink

Thanks Pomenitul!

djh, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:47 (five months ago) Permalink

You should definitely participate if we do another notated music poll!

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 22:15 (five months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Really enjoyed Richter at Blenheim Palace at the weekend, helped by the weather and wine (which induced a vague "being on holiday" feeling).

Got the impression that the crowd was split between people wanting to hear Vivaldi at Blenheim and those wanting to hear "Max Richter" (though I suppose there's some cross-over). A handful of people left when he started playing his own music. Standout track was "Tuesday" from Woolf Works. Someone sat along from us sobbed and sobbed through it.

djh, Monday, 19 June 2017 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Excellent!

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh wow, thanks for the heads up!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Have watched about half of it, so far. I'm intrigued as to how it is viewed as a "ballet" as distinct from a "Max Richter score".

djh, Thursday, 20 July 2017 23:39 (five days ago) Permalink


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