Elvis Presley: Classic Or Dud?

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But that's just the intro---now dig this:

To celebrate FTD's 20th Anniversary, from FTD the release of 'Elvis: American Sound 1969' a 5-CD set that's part of FTD's new 'Sessions' series, includes a 28-page booklet with rare photos and memorabilia.

Elvis' pivotal Year of 1969 celebrated with Elvis: American Sound 1969 featuring over 90 tracks of rare and unreleased material from Elvis' 1969 legendary American Sound Studio sessions, including 'In The Ghetto' and 'Suspicious Minds'.


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wPXlMRAG24

dow, Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

IIRC, Follow That Dream is a label administered by the Dutch Fan Club, who've basically been given the keys to the vault and have been way ahead of the industry curve re: Full Session releases and copyright dumps. RCA uses them as kind of a farm team, frequently cherry-picking FTD releases for their own less-exhaustive, later in the day archive collections.

#Elvis the movie is lots of fun & has to be seen on the big screen. Perfect match of director & subject. Too long & thematically weird of course -- but beautiful cast, music, spectacle, design; genius in all depts. Does what cinema should: improve on reality. https://t.co/wkN0konj1w

— Whit Stillman (@WhitStillman) July 3, 2022

o. nate, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

I agree with Whit that the music and design elements were boffo. The exterior Vegas shots for instance.

o. nate, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

Does 'boffo' mean good?

In that case I disagree, because I thought the 'modernisation' of the music was, on balance, a bad thing (if predictable from this director).

the pinefox, Saturday, 9 July 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed the music, even the modernized parts. I can understand why he did it, he didn't want this to seem like a dusty period piece. I thought the use of hip hop production touches for instance was not overused.

o. nate, Monday, 18 July 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

It just seems insane to make a movie about Elvis while also implicitly saying that you don’t think Elvis’ music holds up without sweetening (not even for an audience that paid to see an Elvis movie.) It’s Elvis ffs it’s loud sexual rock music with guitars, it’s not some confusing obscurity that audiences need to have it explained to them why people found it exciting.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 July 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

Elvis's biggest hit in the last 40 years = a 'dance remix' of 'A Little Less Conversation', so I can see why they also went down that route for the movie. Also think One Eye Open is, sadly, wildly over-estimating the public tolerance for ANY pop music that's getting on for 70 years old.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Elvis's biggest hit in the last 40 years

tbf he has had some health setbacks that have prevented him from releasing much new material

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I like that version. I believe it became a big gigantic hit because it was used for a sneaker ad during the World Cup or Euro. I have mixed feelings about all the songs being truncated and/or modernized. I don't really care for it but sort of see why they did it.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

If Elvis was still alive, he totally would have done a duo album w/Jay-Z under the name 'El Prez' in the 2000s.

"I got 99 problems, but a hound dog ain't one, babe"

re the music for the movie i think it also has a lot to do w Elvis’ estate being deeply fixated on making elvis “current” and Baz is kinda up for anything in that regard

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

Thumbs up: the "Suspicious Minds" goofy-adlib makes it to the screen
Thumbs down: Bones Howe but no Chips Moman? Guess they couldn't afford the screentime to go to that "funky, funky studio."

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

I agree with poster One Eye Open.

If the argument is "yes, but that wouldn't be so popular or commercial" - sure, I can agree. But I think that One Eye Open and I think it would be, on balance, a better film about Elvis.

the pinefox, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

What really would have gotten my goat is if they had done "Sweet Caroline" with the recently interpolated baseball stadium chant.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

Isn't ludicrous overstatement Luhrmann's trademark?

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

RIght. Which is somewhat at cross-purposes with Elvis's perfectly orchestrated overstatement.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Just noticed the backing singers (Is it the Sweet Inspirations here?) trying to follow what he is doing in the beginning. So cool.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

At about 1:56.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Sweet Inspirations plus Kathy Westmoreland.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Considering he looks tired and off his face, and he's reading from a piece of paper, that's a spectacularly good lead vocal too

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Yes, exactly.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

The movie ends with a more extreme version of that, which I think was discussed upthread already.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

Wait, one of the Sweet Inspirations was married to Jerry Schilling? Where was that in the movie?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

At times I thought - is this the recorded vocal? They're very similar!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 July 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

Is that thing punched in or sweetened at all? It’s kind of amazing.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Also, is it really in fact the first live performance? That tour started two weeks prior.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

"We're going to spring a new song on you. We don't know it too well but... if we goof it up just bear with us we'll get it right. It may take a little while but we'll get it right."

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Guralnick says he didn't even want to record it!

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Bonus points if someone can tell me what artist released a version before Elvis did.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

"That's new and we've never done it on stage before so if we goof it up, I'm sorry."

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Even if he is fudging a bit because he is embarrassed about reading off the paper and it is not actually the very first performance it’s still amazing.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

Bonus points if someone can tell me what artist released a version before Elvis did.

Arthur Alexander!

I know him as June.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

another example of how Elvis had some of the greatest drummers in the biz

frogbs, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

Elvis himself was kind of a virtual drummer.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

You know who had the most fun with Elvis on stage?

Elvis.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

Skinny, fat, little or full-size?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Yes.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

He always carried a wiggle.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

Is it because of what happens on the road?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

Thumbs up: “Beatles and Beards”
Thumbs down: no Dewey Phillips

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

I mean we were thrilled about Elvis, but it wasn’t like doing Neil Diamond.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Thumbs down: no Dewey Phillips

They did show a DJ playing two records at once though, didn't they?

pplains, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

Right, now I remember. And that was when we heard “Viva Las Vegas” turn into Vanilla Ice saying “check out my hook while my DJ revolves it.”

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

Or was it a certain sample from Beck’s “Where It’s At.”

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Rock and roll music, if you like it, if you feel it, you can’t help but move to it.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link


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