Looking forThe Pop Group ----Y and How Much Longer do we........

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I'm looking for copies of these albums. Will trade or pay. Thanks

coco, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it was available at aquariusrecords.org last i saw.... they had the japanese import that's still in print. ..so expect to pay about $25- 30.


msp, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

coco, JUJU....

i thought this was meant to be a discussion board, not a trade-shop...

willem, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I would prefer to trade for a copy with someone but will check it out. Thanks!

coco, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, I don't think it would be a bad idea to set up a mini trading section on the site, whether it's a category or a single thread (I think Tom had suggested this when someone posted an ebay thingamabob). There's probably enough of us here that trying to create a swap or scout service might be useful to a lot of people (for example, I'm trying to find a few mid-period Pere Ubu albums on CD and having no luck, and I'm sure there's SOMEONE out there who has spotted them in the used bin lately).

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You can probably pick up both Y and WE ARE ALL PROSTITUTES at Other Music in Manhattan (who, I believe, have a website).

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sean - Alang T has already started one! Go here for details.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Coco, I've got _Y_ on CDR (burned from a great-sounding vinyl copy) if you're interested in a CDR trade. If you're willing to trade CDRs, I'm searching for a copy of the Au Pairs' _Playing With a Different Sex_, The Contortions' _Buy the Contortions_, or any other hard-to-find post-punk of the era. Honestly, though, I'm not too picky, and if you have a list of CDs, maybe we could work something. Email me if you're interested, and good luck.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh bah, just get No New York. The rest all pales in comparison. Even, let's face it, well... ALL OTHER MUSIC (even Other Music).

nathalie - I am feeling hot in herre, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"..get No New York"

Easier said than done, Nixed!!! However, if anyone could burn this for me, I'd be in hog heaven.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Has that untitled Slits album ever been released on CD in any form? "Once upon a time in a living room" or something like that?

Justyn Dillingham, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Clarke, if you can download, email me.

nathalie, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw a copy of No new york in osaka last year. i had the money and i didn't buy it. Not in the right mood, and now i'm kicking myself. has it been repressed on CD ever?

Andrew, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at their second gig, you know. They were supporting Chelsea and someone else - the Cortinas? My mate and I spent the whole of Chelsea's set at the other end of the building arguing with Mark Stewart.

Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Forced Exposure has has Y for $26.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm searching for a copy of ... The Contortions' _Buy the Contortions_

Send Rollins some money.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

If I sent Rollins some money, he would use it to either lift weights or say extremely loud things.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...
three weeks pass...


TACOS, NM (admrl), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:47 (nine years ago) link

How Much Longer has the unique ability to sound awesome on the shittiest of car stereos

sarahel, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:49 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Playing tonight! Someone posted on the last.fm page for the gig they were awesome in Italy this week. Woo.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:38 (nine years ago) link

<3 pop group

frankie t lamps baby (nakhchivan), Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:51 (nine years ago) link

h8 commodification of pop group

frankie t lamps baby (nakhchivan), Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:59 (nine years ago) link


mark e, Saturday, 11 September 2010 15:57 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Probably a futile post, but does anyone follow Gareth Sager anymore? He has like four albums out last year from what I can tell (2 on Spotify) and bits are totally brilliant. The same ("sometimes brilliant") is true for his previous two albums, also as C.C. Sager. It's weird that *nobody* seems to keep track of him.

dlp9001, Saturday, 14 January 2012 03:42 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

new song is....not so good...


nostormo, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:57 (five years ago) link

lol at that title

نكبة (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:59 (five years ago) link

I think it sounds pretty good and the title is clever!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 28 November 2014 23:36 (five years ago) link

Sounds okay, but much more like a Mark Stewart & Maffia track than the Pop Group as such.

crustaceanrebelisback, Friday, 28 November 2014 23:42 (five years ago) link

There were a couple of live sets from the recent Uk tour upped to Dime over the last month that were great. Sounded like a more mature version of the old band. Not playing at the edge of ability cos ability expanded but still possessing a dark intensity.
So I'm hoping that the new lp I heard about this week is going to be good.
Also there was a '78 gig I hadn't come across before. Is there a site listing what gigs were recorded from the original era anywhere?

Stevolende, Saturday, 29 November 2014 01:11 (five years ago) link

Way psyched to see them at the Echoplex next year.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 November 2014 01:16 (five years ago) link

Way psyched to see them at the Echoplex next year.

More abt this pls?

naus, Saturday, 29 November 2014 03:14 (five years ago) link

I think the 2 compilations that came out recently are part of a longer (re)issue series. Think I've heard How Much Longer is coming as well as some more unreleased stuff hence the (re).
Btw does anybody know what was in the 36 page book that came in the Limited Edition Curiosities Box version of the 2 compilations together? I've only seen the description as something like 'perfectly bound 36 page book' with nothing about content. Neither of the separate cds had much in the way of liner notes so I wonder if that did.
Is there a band history written up anywhere?

Stevolende, Saturday, 29 November 2014 10:52 (five years ago) link

I hear Paul Epworth is producing the new Pop Group record

MaresNest, Saturday, 29 November 2014 11:06 (five years ago) link

More abt this pls?

Check out: http://www.thepopgroup.net/live/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:41 (five years ago) link

Can't decide if I should be psyched about this tour or not?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 29 November 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

yeah will this be good? I dunno. although usually these things are.

akm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 17:10 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

new album gets a 2.4 in Pitchfork

tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 27 February 2015 19:47 (five years ago) link

Pathetic. It's half great, half not so much. Definitely worth hearing.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:00 (five years ago) link

Wow that review is terrible. Everything it tries to posit as a negative turns out to be a quality that made Y so beloved. P4k doing a great job of careening towards ultimate irrelevance

the saer returns (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 28 February 2015 04:19 (five years ago) link

By contrast, there is almost no space anywhere on Citizen Zombie, beyond the pauses between tracks. Every moment is crammed with stray sound and errant fury: blooms of guitar distortion or thuds of industrial beats or some of the most incongruent backing vocals imaginable. Even closer "Echelon", which is the closest this album gets to a quiet moment, eventually piles on the synths and guitars and even a pipe organ. Featuring production by the eclectic Paul Epworth (Adele,U2, Cee-Lo Green, and Crystal Castles, among many others), the album sounds scripted and overdetermined, its noise and commotion sculpted to assault your ears. Superficially, it’s successful, in that it’s not easy to listen to these songs. Yet, it feels like a cheap tactic, as if the band don’t trust themselves to get their point across and, worse, don’t trust their listeners to comprehend anything but the most blatant lyric and the most thudding attack. The result of so much suspicion is an album that’s somehow both loud and timid—all clamor and no soul.

the saer returns (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 28 February 2015 04:22 (five years ago) link

One reels at the thought of what kind of rating Trout Mask would get these days

the saer returns (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 28 February 2015 04:23 (five years ago) link

Show tonight was tremendous. Well worth pulling the trigger on...

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:33 (five years ago) link

So glad to hear that Elvis. Heading to the Brooklyn show on Monday. A mix of old and new songs, I gather?

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:18 (five years ago) link

Going tonight! Wondering if I should prioritizing getting there in time for the opening acts.

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:21 (five years ago) link

Openers in LA were Sex Stains (Alison of Bratmobile's new band) and Peaking Lights.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 20:50 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Finally got around to getting the recent reissue of For HOw Much longer and liking it a lot more than I remember from having the Vinyl years ago. Band is reasonably recognisable from the band on Y but the production is very different.
I always thought it sounded heavily compressed, it does sound claustrophobic possibly but great great record.

I'm now seeing taht there's a live lp from the same era about to be released. Compilation of various recordings from the tour supporting the lp I think alongside a dvd of material recorded by Don Letts from around the time.

I was hoping there was a live lp due but thought it might be similar to the live 2cd that was released in Japan which consisted of 3 complete sets or at least partial ones. I have those sets on flac from having dowenloaded them fro places like Dime prior to the Japanese release but would still have liked a physixcal cd with possibly better sound.

Do wonder if this live cd which is called THe Boys Whose Heads Exploded might be the first of a few live compis or if it is the end of releases.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 19:49 (four years ago) link

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Ah, before my time I guess

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 19:58 (four years ago) link

The Pop Group unveil their latest archival release, The Boys Whose Head Exploded. Compiled from unearthed basement tapes recorded during their incendiary performances of late 1979 and 1980, the compilation also includes a bonus DVD featuring film footage shot by legendary director Don Letts.

The bulk of the salvaged live recordings comprise brawling versions of songs taken from the band’s recently reissued second studio album For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? The collection also features the previously unreleased 73 Shadow Street, and a surprise mutation of the Glaxo Babies’ Shake The Foundation.

The Boys Whose Head Exploded will be released through Freaks R Us on Friday 27th May 2016.

The album’s track listing is as follows:

01. We Are All Prostitutes (Live Milan 1980)
02. Justice (Live Cologne 1980)
03. How Much Longer (Live Cologne 1980)
04. Blind Faith (Live Sheffield 1979)
05. Forces of Oppression (Live Cologne 1980)
06. There Are No Spectators (Live Cologne 1980)
07. Feed The Hungry (Live Cologne 1980)
08. Rob A Bank (Live Milan 1980)
09. Shake The Foundation (Live Cologne 1980)
10. 73 Shadow Street (Live Helsinki 1980)

The accompanying film footage is a short feature that’s been hiding in Don Letts’ punk rock archives for the past 35 years. Filmed by Letts at Alexandra Palace on June 15th 1980 at an all day festival that featured the likes of John Cooper Clarke, The Raincoats and The Slits, the rare footage encapsulates the band’s molotov cocktail of punk, funk, free jazz and radical politics at its most artistically concussive.

The vinyl edition comes as a picture disc with a download code to access the film and hi-res audio content. The CD edition includes a DVD of the 1980 footage and a 12 page poster.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 21:19 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Mark Stewart was on Mike Watt's podcast a couple weeks ago and they go through every track on the new comp. Well worth your time.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:43 (three years ago) link

Spitting into the wind, but I'm always amazed that Sager is as off the radar as he is. This is actually one of my favorite songs in the world, period.


dlp9001, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:55 (three years ago) link

Mark Stewart was on Mike Watt's podcast a couple weeks ago and they go through every track on the new comp. Well worth your time.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, June 6, 2016 6:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cool, Stewart's appearance on the Watt podcast last yr was awesome. I can't believe those two haven't hooked up for a record or proj or something.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 19:37 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I've always thought that Y was the second album, after How Much Longer... And I've learned otherwise and yet still I forget. I think it's because Y's so... weird and free? It kind of reminds me of the difference between the first and second Alternative TV albums. But backwards.

The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:06 (two years ago) link

There's also the We Are Time compilation of Peel Session and live stuff dating from around the time of Y. & that's now got a companion volume though it should have just been put on the same cd Cabinet of Curiosities.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 08:40 (two years ago) link

I thought Honeymoon On Mars was a massive improvement on Citizen Zombie - it didn't have as much of the oppression but a lot of space, almost like a dub electronica record (and I guess showing the influence of Dennis Bovell and Hank Shocklee in the production).

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 09:18 (two years ago) link

that cover art though ...

mark e, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 11:23 (two years ago) link

It could be worse, you could have a t shirt lying around with that artwork on it.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:00 (two years ago) link

I had no idea Honeymoon on Mars had been out for almost a year!

the underground is pass-agg (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 22:22 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I've never seen this before but it's just as great as PIL on bandstand


Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 November 2018 04:04 (one year ago) link

Gareth Sager sitting at the back with the violin before giving up the whole charade A++.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 16 November 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link

That was fantastic, thanks for sharing!

I bought a copy of "Y" on CD in the 90s and it didn't make much sense. I would revisit it every few years and now I love it, even picked up the odds and sods "We Are All Prostitutes" comp as a supplement. Not too keen on later material though there's good bits along the way.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 16 November 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

I think I picked up Y and a scratched up version of Beefheart's Lick My Decals Off in the same purchase thanks to comparisons in Birthday party features in early 8-0s NMEs that my brother had. think I picked up on Pere ubu from the same source, it just took me longer to get hold of their material.

But have loved Y since then.

Stevolende, Friday, 16 November 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...


Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 14:41 (seven months ago) link

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