huh, somehow had the impression that the la neu material was slight without having ever heard it. but this sounds cool. definitely looking forward to spinning it.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm planning to go through all the albums sooner or later to get a better overview of it all. AFAIK the La Neu moniker was just a blanket term for whatever Dinger happened to be feeling at the time. I also have "Zeeland" and it's totally different, very low-key with a prominent female vocalist. It's generally fairly good, but way overlong.
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I've never checked out anything dinger has done outside of neu before. which is kind of weird because I've dipped into tons of stuff from the neu/cluster/harmonia axis and have found value in everything I've heard.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Get the first two La Dusseldorf albums; I can all but guarantee you'll like them
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, duh. I forgot about la dusseldorf. those are awesome, yes.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
so, live in tokyo starts very low key. you can even hear lots of audience movement, coughing, a bit of chatter, and what sounds like some movement on stage. kind of digging the intimate feel so far.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
He's sold before the music even starts, Klaus would love that
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh this pic was also a factor:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/21998855/La+Neu+Laneu.jpg
aww.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
david lee roth family reunion
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
just wrapping up the la neu lp. loved this one!
it comes off as a bit amateurish in spots, particularly when the cha cha 2000 groove flat-out falls apart suddenly once or twice. but that's also part of the draw too - there's a real sense of joy on this recording and the free nature of the performance is part of that. doesn't hurt that the motorik bits just sound unstoppable.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Looking forward to this...Cha Cha 2K's such an epic, it stands to reason that he'd want to underscore those qualities in a major (2 CD's!?!!?!) way.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 31 March 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Glad your all enjoying this one so far. I'd encourage those that are sceptical about to give it a try, it really is more dynamic and engaging than the '2cd's worth of 1 song' premise sounds.
Dinger's playing guitar on this one I assume and his playing is fantastic at points.
― AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 31 March 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmmmmmmmmm, can't agree, this just isn't very good. Did Dinger want this out or was it put out without his permission? Can't hear much of any worth in the 1st CD at all, it takes about 30 minutes(!) before anything interesting happens. 2nd CD is better, there is some good guitar playing, drummer(s) pummel away entertainingly, but whatever way you slice it, it's still a 50-odd minute jam. Thx again tho!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 1 April 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Kinda with Tom on this. It doesn't really feel like the type of recording that was intended for live use. It's not very high-quality and they flub a few things. Plus I don't really feel that it really picks up too much but maybe I'll have to have another listen. I don't really mind that it's just one song since Cha Cha 2000 is basically an amalgam of everything Dinger has ever done. I do like the communal, intimate vibe of it though.
― frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
6 April - ilxor13 April - jacob sanders20 April - Tom D27 April - ashra williams (san frandisco),
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
can i get one?? (if i'm not banned by then)
― frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
6 April - ilxor13 April - jacob sanders20 April - Tom D27 April - ashra williams (san frandisco),4 May - frogbs
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 1 April 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
push me back plz :(
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Friday, 1 April 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't really mind that it's just one song since Cha Cha 2000 is basically an amalgam of everything Dinger has ever done
Sacrilege probably, since "Viva" seems to be everybody's favourite LaD LP these days, but I always thought "Cha Cha 2000" was too long anyway, well the piano bit in the middle really.
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 April 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to live in tokyo volume 2 just now. Worth looking into if you dig the live version of "cha cha".
I understand the comments criticising the lengthy periods of nothingness on cd 1 of the "cha cha" live recording but its worthwhile for the perpetual climax that is the second disc.
If factforthose that are sceptical about checking this one out i'd implore you to perhaps download cd 2 by itself.
― AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 2 April 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, download both, don't let critics put anyone off
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought i was the only one that thought this...
― Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 2 April 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Did we skip a week?
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ilxor requested to be banned so i guess we need to bump everyone up a week. Want to post now jacob?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 7 April 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
give me an hour and I've have them uploaded and posted?
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ok
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Carol Of Harvest - Carol Of Harvest 1978
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1734/carolofharvestfront2.jpg
A surprising release for 1978, Carol Of Harvest created progressive folk similar to The Trees or Hoelderlin. Maybe not exactly krautrock, but it has it's mystical kraut freak out moments. A short record too, never overstaying it's welcome. It's also nice to have a lady singing amongst all the men in here. Not a Spotify link
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
LILIENTAL- LILIENTAL 1987
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4866/24970320.jpg
I didn't plan on posting two records from 78, but it turned out that way. LILIENTAL could be called a supergroup, but almost every kraut one off project could be called a supergroup. The line was Dieter Moebius, keyboard, guitar, percussions/Conny Plan, keyboard, guitar, manipulated voices/Johannes Pappert, altosaxophon, bass, flute/Helmutt Hattler, e-bass guitar/Okko Bekker, keyboard, musical saw, percussions/Armus Tietchens, keyboard, drums. The music is really all over the place, sometimes cosmic freakouts, sometimes synth noodling, sometimes cheesy smooth blissed out jazz. Maybe the record fails in places, but there are plenty of beautiful passages here too. Not A Spotify link
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link
My links didn't work? I'll try again
Carol of Harvest Spotify Link
Liliental Spotify Link
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
OK, so now I have to cross the Liliental album off of my albums to post
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I actually would called Liliental a supergroup, as much as the Cosmic Jokers were. Conny Plank, half of Kraan, Armus Tietchens and Moebius!! I almost choose an Armus Tietchens record, but I think Lilental captures everything that was unique and creative about the late era of Kraut rock. A rare appearance of Conny Plank playing along jazz rockers with two synth wizards.
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
It's an excellent album, I don't think it fails anywhere! Sort of wish they'd used the Kraan guys a bit more tho, not that I'm a fan of Kraan by any means, but when the jazz + electronic elements collide it's nice
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
the Krautrock doumentary is on BBC4 again at the weekend btw
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nf10k
― koogs, Friday, 8 April 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
None of those non-spotify links are working for me.
― van smack, Friday, 8 April 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B89-69icyc
^ that documentary is all up on youtube too btw
― ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link
contains a small amount of nakedness btw
― ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
hadn't seen the clips on the webpage before, specifically Klaus Schulze and his synthi
― koogs, Friday, 8 April 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
> None of those non-spotify links are working for me.
cut and paste them into url, replace the %3F with a ?
― koogs, Friday, 8 April 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link
(by url i mean the place in your browser where the url displays)
― koogs, Friday, 8 April 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not sure why my links didn't work, but here we go again, I'm trying to make the link google proof, just add mediafire.com them. Is this ok. I'm trying to keep from just posting the links outright.
Carol of harvest/?4fhe4zwr6639mvz
Liliental/?1zwxeaah1dj2dbn
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I will get these at home later. Really curious/excited about this Liliental.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I watched that documentary last night... wow, really good. So many details I didn't know. The only unfortunate thing is that the 6th clip (out of 6) features totally fucked audio, so I wasn't able to see the last ten minutes.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 8 April 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Docu. was on telly again last night. I noticed that the pop song that opens the programme, and which is meant to stand for everything the Krautrockers were fighting against, was a German language version of "Sound Asleep" by the Turtles, which is kind of a cool song to cover!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 April 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Suppose we give a Krautrock Listening Club and nobody comes...
So, I assume we assume that everyone's already heard a "Soon Over Babaluma" or a "Radio-Activity" so we're not bothering with the more well known stuff? Anyway, I had a whole list of albums I intended to post here but I realised they were very much in the motorik/ electronic vein of the rest of the thread so I junked them and decided to try something different. Both of these albums are by, for want of a better phrase, "jazz rock" bands - but don't run away yet, they don't sound too much like jazz rock, believe me I wouldn't do that to ya.
XHOL CARAVAN - Motherfuckers GmbH & Co. KG (1972)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IsCG0nFn9M8/SZkqJJKI6pI/AAAAAAAAAEc/AHo4AvFIJlY/s320/xhol.jpg
Recorded in 1970, between their first album (which was a sort of ramshackle mash-up of Zappa and Soft Machine, but definitely ahead of its time for Germany in 1969) and their pretty boring (IMO) second album (I think they were trying for Soft Machine "Third"). Don't know why this album works so well, as I suspect it's comprised of outtakes and rejected experiments, I mean you wouldn't expect a 9 and half minute organ solo to be much cop - but, by Odin's beard, it surely is!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GF48G0KY"">Not Spotted
ET CETERA - Et Cetera (1971)
http://www.longhairmusic.de/coveretcetera.jpg
Calling this "Krautrock" is a cheat as this is nominally at least a jazz album. What it is in fact is an album made by jazz musicians that's miles more imaginative and adventurous than the majority of what gets touted as Krautrock. This was a product of keyboardist Wolfgang Dauner, who, late 60s/early 70s, put out a lot of interesting albums in a diverting variety of styles. Better than stuff like Embryo in my opinion. I've included the three bonus tracks that came with the CD reissue, which I wouldn't normally do, because they fit with the rest of the album really well and are perhaps even more krautrocky!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9W625J1N"">Not Spotted + http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JHHJLDK1"">Lesser Spotted
― None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
... oops, something went wrong with the links there, but they still work
― None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
great thread. anyone have any of the phantom band (jaki liebzeit post-CAN outfit) re-issues? i'll try and get these posted, soon.
― dronestreet, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, now i see. i'll take the next open week, whenever that is.
really digging on that Liliental record, also.
― dronestreet, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
really busy at work today, will be posting the records a little bit later!
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry for the super late post, but here it goes. There's no real theme to the three albums i decided to post and like Tom D. mentioned above I didn't want to follow with more from the big names. We are kind of getting to the more obscure and so i decided to get a little adventurous with my three.
RICHARD SCHNEIDER JR. - FATA MORGANA (1980)http://discohorror.com/pics/fata%20morgana%20.jpg
First up is an album following the more jazz rock cosmic vibe of last week's post. Richard Schneider Jr.'s Fata Morgana from 1980 is easily one of my favorite albums because it incorporates so many elements of some of my favorite music from that time. The acoustic guitar is from his earlier release Dreamlike Land is there, but he leaves the Latin bossa vibes of that release behind. There is definitely more structure than many other krautrock albums in this thread and there are moments when fusion and jazz rock elements come through, but the cosmic element pervades the entire album. An incredible album to say the least and one worth coming back to over and over again.Not A Spotify Link
THOMAS DINGER - FÜR MICH (1982)http://discohorror.com/pics/thomas%20dinger.jpeg
This album I'm less fond of, but I only came across it recently (thanks to Jaxon). It's the only solo album put out by krautrock legend Klaus Dinger's little brother, Thomas Dinger. Thomas is credited for vocals, playing drums and writing on several Neu! and La Düsseldorf albums and you can definitely hear the influence of those groups in the album's most winning track "Für Dich". However, the use of samples of animal sounds is pretty interesting and there are definitely unique elements. Worth a listen at least.Not A Spotify Link
TYNDALL - TRAUMLAND (1981)http://discohorror.com/pics/tyndall%20traumland.jpg
The second album from German synthesizer duo Jurgen Krehan and Rudolf Langer. This is really the only Tyndall album I can listen to with any sincerity. The other ones remind me too much of awful classical musicians exercising their chops on massive modular boards and are far too cheesy for my taste. This one has some really redeeming moments though with "Unterwegs" in particular shining through. The album is minimal arpeggiated synth krautrock but has much more of a melodic slant than Conrad Schnitzler. While the other albums, and this one at times can be compared to other minimal synth experimenters of the time like Jean Michel Jarre there's a certain element that makes me think of it more as krautrock,Not A Spotify Link
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:40 (thirteen years ago) link