late period u2 are they good or? my instinct is that they are some grad A bs but they have some good songs

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like stuck in a moment is awesome

plax (ico), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

fuck it all

la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

(that's not a song)

la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe it should be be?

Check this, in fact. How exciting. He literally cuts the mustard. (snoball), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

My answer to this would change depending on where you say "late period" starts.

HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

The William Orbit version of Electrical Storm is excellent, however the original version stinks.

You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

since "Reapplying for the job of the best band in the world" is late period

plax (ico), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think All That You Can't Leave Behind is a genuinely good album, probably their best since Achtung, Baby, and I dig "Vertigo" a lot.

HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

The last one wasn't quite as good, but Atomic Bomb and especially All That You Can't are quite good. But best of all is Window In The Skies, the single from the recent greatest hits record. That was sort of the culmination of their 2000s sound.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really dig "magnificent" from no line.

hobbes, Friday, 23 April 2010 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Their contributions on Million Dollar Hotel were good I think. Also liked the William Orbit remix of Electrical Storm. ATYCLB had some ok songs mixed with awful. Lost track since.

Moka, Friday, 23 April 2010 21:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

ATYCLB - Strong but ultimately weighted down by some badness
Atomic Bomb - horrid, U2 by numbers stadium rock coupled with the worst lyrics of Bono's career
NLOTH - 1/3 the best stuff since the 90s, 1/3 okay/pleasant, 1/3 truly amazingly bad (I will never forgive the lyrics "force quit/and move to trash")

Davey D, Friday, 23 April 2010 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

GARBAGE

Q: What's brown and Sticky? A: The insect that lives in your stomach (jjjusten), Friday, 23 April 2010 21:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Life is too short and there are Echo And The Bunnymen & Church albums to listen to.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 April 2010 21:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

"City Of Blinding Lights" is awesome imo

Cryptococcus gattii mane (some dude), Friday, 23 April 2010 21:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Like all of their post Y2K albums. "Atomic Bomb" is weaker than the two others, but they are all way better than "Pop" and "Zooropa". The most recent one even sees them experimenting a bit again, but never in a way that is at the expence of listenability.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 23 April 2010 22:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol rock n roll hall of fame but this here smokes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjNOD5412us

hobbes, Friday, 23 April 2010 22:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

the answer is no plax, go with your instinct

sonderangerbot, Friday, 23 April 2010 23:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

they are all way better than "Pop" and "Zooropa".

I wouldn't claim these are U2's best albums (that would be Fire, obv.) but they are my personal favorites. Listen to them more often than anything else in their catalog. As for '00s, Leave Behind and Atomic Bomb are both decent, listenable if a bit unadventurous, and have a couple excellent tracks apiece. Haven't heard the latest one yet.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

And like the other poster above, I'll take my Bunnymen and Church (and Chameleons!) records before U2.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

The William Orbit version of Electrical Storm is excellent, however the original version stinks.

Yup; maybe this one's forgotten cuz it was a new song buried on a comp no one will care about in five years?

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

I too find it impossible to appreciate the tired sounds of U2 when the work of arch-Modernists like Echo and the Bunnymen and the Chameleongs is still available.

and ya thought that shit played out in ILX (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yup; maybe this one's forgotten cuz it was a new song buried on a comp no one will care about in five years?

People turning more and more to single tracks instead of albums will actually favour those. If they hold up, that is.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm getting so sick of U2. My friend and I were watching This Might Get Loud earlier today and we spent the whole time straight ripping on the Edge...I'm not usually a technique whore buthe was totally outclassed standing next to Jimmy Page & Jack White.

(I'm going to repost this in the new SPIN thread too.)

deeply wishing solace from the universe for a troubled soul (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

they are all way better than "Pop" and "Zooropa"

No comment on Pop but Zooropa shits on these records from a great height. So does Passengers tbh.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

The William Orbit version of Electrical Storm is excellent, however the original version stinks.

Yup; maybe this one's forgotten cuz it was a new song buried on a comp no one will care about in five years?

― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

The William Orbit remix was the version used on the video by Anton Corbjin... it's probably one of the best U2 videos so I think it'll be saved for posterity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0adFYuNuns

Moka, Sunday, 25 April 2010 05:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also I might be wrong but I remember the video got played a whole lot so I assume the song is sort of known among people watching music videos around the time. If casual listeners don't remember it it's frankly because they all stopped caring about U2 a long time ago.

Moka, Sunday, 25 April 2010 05:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

how much time in your life do you have to listen to music that is just okay? I've decided I don't have any, hence, I never listen to any of them. but they are okay.

akm, Sunday, 25 April 2010 06:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

been thinking abt this because of that tender trap song that was basically a u2 song in disguise (esp. the edge-ey riff lol) but was really awesome. and i was like "am i enjoying this bc the pastiche element gives me an alibi, or is it just somehow better than u2" this is something i am still wondering.

plax (ico), Sunday, 25 April 2010 06:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

moment of surrender is one of the best things they've done since achtung baby. the rest of the new album is no good though

gonzo84d, Sunday, 25 April 2010 08:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

anyone else watching this on bbc1

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 October 2011 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

"the landlady"

\m/

fuck the haters

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I can only assume this was a trolling project i got bored by

plax (ico), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"you're the best thing about me"

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"book of your heart"

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

go! shout it out! rise up! OH!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

force quit! and move to trash!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"magnificent" riff is really good

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's one of their best songs since achtung baby!. god bless brian eno

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah Magnificent is the tops. It's a bit like a Bowie Heathen track.

piscesx, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I have recently been obsessed with hold me thrill me kiss me kill me ... is that song bad? I used to think it was horrible. Now I love it.

pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i hate u2 but that song has always been great

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if you listen to the cure, echo & the bunnymen, the chameleons, the comsat angels, and the teardrop explodes, but not U2, are you too tasteful for PiL too?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

late period U2 is more tone-deaf w/r/t their career and image than their other periods (or rather Bono is, with an assist from Edge razing the Malibu coastline) but the music is often extremely good and all their 21st century albums are better than their reps might suggest, that's how I break it down to an extent.

omar little, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Every single album post ATYCLB has kicked off w/a guitar hero rock single. vertigo was the good version of that, get on your boots the bad version. The deep and/or slower album cuts on the last couple in particular are spectacular.

omar little, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 02:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's amazing we only used to allow people to post in the question title field - technology has come on so much since 2010

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:37 (one week ago) Permalink

lmao at "REFU-JESUS"

Simon H., Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:46 (one week ago) Permalink

i always forget about this wee gem

https://www.discogs.com/U2-Soon/release/2373515

piscesx, Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:47 (one week ago) Permalink

this, i should say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vVZ0z6yV8

piscesx, Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:48 (one week ago) Permalink

wow, the two U2 performances on SNL from last night are two of the worst of all time. they all seem really tired and completely out of ideas

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 December 2017 15:56 (one week ago) Permalink

i was listening to NPR the other day and they gave the album a rave review so i was actually kind of curious to see what they came up with this time

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 December 2017 15:58 (one week ago) Permalink

On the second SNL song, watching the “I love America, I love TV” bit leading into the faux-“Beautiful Day,” I had a realization: U2 are so deep into self-parody at this point that they’ve become their own Rutles.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:15 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2X8zPYhNag

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:09 (one week ago) Permalink

That SNL performance was so bad I thought it could cost Kendrick Lamar the Pazz & Jop award. I don't ever want to listen to XXX again, I don't ever want to listen to Damn the whole way through again.

Frederik B, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:26 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't actually mind U2 on that Lamar track - I have no problems with it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 08:29 (one week ago) Permalink

been thinking abt this because of that tender trap song that was basically a u2 song in disguise

which Tender Trap song was this??

Colonel Poo, Monday, 4 December 2017 11:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to not mind them on XXX, but then I saw their version, and now I don't think I can ever listen to it again.

Frederik B, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:06 (one week ago) Permalink

7 years on from the original post, is 'late-period' redefined? Or will it always be:

1980-1983: early U2
1984-1991: mid-period U2
1992-now and forever: late-period U2

Like it's been late-period Rolling Stones since 1983, if not '73.

dorsalstop, Monday, 4 December 2017 13:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Early U2: the beginning-1983
We Love America U2: 1984-1990
Actually, We Love Europe U2: 1991-1999
Late Period U2: 2000-2003
Nobody Gives a Fuck Anymore U2: 2004-present

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:35 (one week ago) Permalink

all my friends who are U2 fans are pretty enthusiastic about this compared to Songs of Innocence, though after one listen i'm not quite there. i actually like the last one and i think everyone (including the band!) retreating from it a bit is trying to engage in Pop-style revisionist history. though overall i think No Line on the Horizon is their best post-'90s album. the missteps are relatively minor and the corniness is pretty damn low and the best songs on their are massive.

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:32 (one week ago) Permalink

^ Agreed on NLotH, though I think it's very much a minority opinion. The new one isn't so much completed terrible as completely redundant, with the possible exception of the last 15 mins or so.

29 facepalms, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:03 (one week ago) Permalink

xp *there 🤦🏻‍♂️

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:07 (one week ago) Permalink

What was the last U2 song that could truly be called a "classic"? I'm thinking either 'Vertigo' or 'Beautiful Day' ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Like it's been late-period Rolling Stones since 1983, if not '73.

― dorsalstop, Monday, December 4, 2017 1:23 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hmm, thinking about it, that would make 'Beautiful Day' their 'Start Me Up', and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb their Undercover ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:18 (one week ago) Permalink

NLOTH contains a couple of should-be classics (at least if you're a U2 fan), i think Magnificent at least is vv huge. though Breathe is the best song on the album, i think. U2 is nothing if not a band who will abandon all songs from an unsuccessful album within seconds, however.

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, we saw signs of that with Pop!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:24 (one week ago) Permalink

lsat classic song is definitely Beautiful Day, Vertigo only seems good in comparison to how much worse they've gotten

NLOTH is a really weird album. there was a clearly an attempt to make something more experimental than Atomic Bomb, and some of the results of that are half decent (Moment of Surrender is definitely one of their best tracks this century) but they don't fully commit to it, so there's boring rawk songs like Stand Up Comedy and then Get On Your Boots which is completely baffling.

ufo, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

w/that album the first four and last four songs range from outstanding to very good, and the middle three are pretty paint-by-numbers.

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:38 (one week ago) Permalink

i think ATYCLB is by far the most assured-sounding album, the one where they seemed to go in with a good plan. it's probably no coincidence that both that and NLOTH were Eno/Lanois productions. not sure going the Dangermouse etc route is the best plan for success w/these guys...

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:40 (one week ago) Permalink

No Line disappointed me the most, because it clearly feels compromised, like it could have been much weirder and/or more exciting, but ended up in this sort of purgatory. There was a great reveal from Eno back-when about the band's working habits, namely that their albums are constantly developing and vacillating, back and forth, from success to failure, as they tinker, up until the very last minute. Sometimes they run out of time when the albums are great or on the upswing, sometimes they run out of time and the albums fall short. Anyway, the fact that Atomic Bomb, Innocence and I guess the new one feature so many name producers demonstrates how desperate the band has been for a direction/hit/relevance for some time now.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:51 (one week ago) Permalink

The band has tried too hard for too long and this album is the ultimate expression of that.

Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Hmmm. I think they only know how to make music that sounds like they're trying too hard, and they don't really have a lot of other modes in their toolbox.

Their pace has understandably slowed because they're extremely comfortable and globally famous, but when they try to make records they tend to make records that sound like people who are trying too hard.

Especially because almost no one gives a fuck what they are doing now, and hasn't since 2004, as Turrican notes. The market just gets saturated. I will probably see them this summer. And I am pretty sure "this is one from our new album" is going to mean "you can go to the restroom now" to most of the audience, just as much as it did 4 or 6 or 8 years ago.

didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree, and thinking about it, it's a little strange that they've never attempted to do the kind of low-key, small-scale acoustic/unplugged type of record that a lot of bands that get to that size do. It's like they feel that everything they do had to be big in scale and they haven't realised that at this stage they don't have to do that.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:34 (one week ago) Permalink

*has

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:35 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess zooropa is the closest they have come to a small-scale casual effort. Coincidence or no, that may be their most divisive record. I've encountered as many people who hate that record as people who call it their favorite.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Zooropa is my favourite, but really the 1991-1997 period is my favourite period in general. Even though Zooropa probably was one of the easier U2 records to make, stuff like the title track and 'Stay (Faraway, So Close!)' still seem to have one eye on the big crowds.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 23:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Agree that "Beautiful Day" is really the last essential tune, and even that isn't very good IMO; in many ways it's the mission statement for the second half of their career.

'Zooropa' and the Passengers album were really the last releases with really interesting tunes on them. "Lemon" is one of the most beautiful things ever recorded.

yesca, Monday, 4 December 2017 23:01 (one week ago) Permalink

otm

calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 23:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Well except for that last sentence. Let’s not get carried away

calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 23:03 (one week ago) Permalink

'Lemon' is excellent, and I think many were secretly hoping Pop would continue building on what U2 were doing with 'Lemon' and 'Numb' but with more of an emphasis on delivering big hits - kinda like Achtung Baby but an even bigger sonic leap forward. As we all know, it didn't pan out that way and Pop ended up a bit of a mess, but I still think there's some great material on there.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 23:18 (one week ago) Permalink

"Beautiful Day" is one of those weird songs that is so affecting the first few times you hear it then slithers away into annoyance.

Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Monday, 4 December 2017 23:33 (one week ago) Permalink

music aside Pop is probably the last album where the lyrics are at least 90% outstanding imo.

Since then most of their lyrics have been merely serviceable (though some of them rise above, like the best bits of NLOTH) but their clunkers are a bit more pronounced. I'm just going to pretend I don't hear "ref-u-jesus" on the new one.

omar little, Monday, 4 December 2017 23:35 (one week ago) Permalink

It reminds me a lot of 'The Sun Always Shines On TV', but it's not the only "inspiration" I detected on that album ... there's another song which reminds me of 'Here Comes Your Man' ...

(xpost)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 23:36 (one week ago) Permalink

And surely it's impossible to hear Get out of your own way without secretly singing Go your own way in your head?

29 facepalms, Monday, 4 December 2017 23:57 (one week ago) Permalink


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