Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

I probably gotta say Of Montreal's nu-skool stuff.

i didn't fall for of montreal, but i agree with your sentiments.

Sufjan Stevens

lol yeah neither did I

I regret nothing

i still like sufjan stevens, but you've got to be in the right mood (fragile, twee . . . you know).

wooden wand and the vanishing voice

i think i speak for all of ilx when i say 'grime blogs'

thinking freak folk I guess.

blue sabbath black cheer

A whole mess of underground rap stuff in the first couple 00s.

i bought a diplo cd

All the Doseone/subtle stuff, Fiery Furnaces, Gas.

I'll give this to Sufjan, he has a better voice than Michael Stipe...

lots of "freak folk," like lots of music, was not as good as pearls before swine. how i long for the innocent days of the blog hype cycle pre-whiney g. weingarten.

Sufjan, Devendra Banhart, Cocorosie. Totally weird to me now how I was once quite excited by them.

I think the closest I come to this is maybe Lady Sovereign? And that's dubious because I still like her first album; I generally don't get musical remorse.

i stumped for some pretty mediocre art-rap for a while.

like i'll definitely still go to bat for Antipop Consortium and El-P and Aesop Rock and all that, but i def had my share of stanning for some instantly forgettable third-and-fourth tier Def Jux/Big Dada/Ninja Tine/Quannum/Anticon etc bands from 2001-2004

also, i had an Avenged Sevenfold phase for like a year

xposts Freak-folk was actually one of the most exciting little sub-trends for me last decade.

I generally don't get musical remorse

this, and I'll still rep hard for at least one song on every Sufjan Stevens full-length

i would say maybe 15% of the artists on this are still making good albums

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Apples_of_the_Sun_%28album%29

i still love a lot of "freak-folk," i said "w00den w4nd" because of a particular ilxor from a couple years ago

pretty mediocre art-rap
is exactly what I meant too. The remorse part has more to do with my embracing the snobby purism of this scene and ignoring a lot of what was happening overground at the time.

i don't think Devendra has made any listenable music since 2005, but then again i barely payed attention to his 2007 record and his 2009 record passed me by completely

yeah snobbiness in general is my real response to this thread tbh x-post

The Decemberists, specifically Picaresque O_O

xpost Cripple Crow kind of sucked too I think

el-p, the hives, the mooney suzuki

xpost Cripple Crow kind of sucked too I think

― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:39 PM

way too fucken long for sure, it has some solid jams iirc, and "Canela" is a great closer

if someone says Deerhoof I will cry

yeah that of montreal cd was a mistake

dunno what constitutes third-tier Big Dada/Ninja Tune/Quannum but let it be known that i still bump blackalicious, latryx, roots manuva, herbaliser on the regular

good thread idea btw

that i even listed 2 music at all...

deerhoof is great. my appreciation for them has grown throughout the decade. (xp)

I probably overrated "Cripple Crow" at the time, but I still put it on from time to time, and there are a few gems in their amidst the dross. It's not any more inconsistent than "Rejoicing in the Hands" or "Nino Rojo", tbh.

yeah, ditto on "good thread idea."

think i did alright here given my youth for a lot of it, pretty much ignored/despised dubstep, free folk, twee/indie, abortive crossover grime, 'new rock revolution', anticon, secondgen post-punk afterbirth etc etc

probably something like klaxons or mathy hardcore or tigerbeat6 ish idm/breakcore, but i still don't hate them rly even if i seldom (if ever) listen to them

xpost yeah I mentioned them because I feel their status as an exciting band people were talking about a lot really dipped as the decade went on.

Other 00s stuff I sorta overrated: Aphex Twin "drukqs", Apples In Stereo, a lot of Kompakt stuff.

drukqs is still underrated imo

a lot of the nu-metal i listened to from 2000-2004 iirc

I bought two Dizzee Rascal albums, two M.I.A. albums and the first Burial album. All that money could have been better spent on bags of Doritos.

hahahahahahaha

drukqs is intermittently great

((((ksh))))

boy in da corner is very great

i really like the first Burial record

think i did alright here given my youth for a lot of it, pretty much ignored/despised dubstep, free folk, twee/indie, abortive crossover grime, 'new rock revolution', anticon, secondgen post-punk afterbirth etc etc

probably something like klaxons or mathy hardcore or tigerbeat6 ish idm/breakcore, but i still don't hate them rly even if i seldom (if ever) listen to them

glad 2 hear u were such a beacon of light in those dark times u fukken feeb

lamp u fat cocksucker don't get so aggrieved

I can't think of the last time I've put on a Kompakt "Total" series CD.

I can't think of the last time I've put on a Kompakt "Total" series CD.

I'm just saying: would you have stopped at Chaos and Disorder if that was the second Prince album you ever heard?

No, because I actually liked Chaos and Disorder.

Wild Mood Swings > Population 4 > Chaos and Disorder.

post-Vision Creation Newsun Boredoms for me. Live is a bit of a different story but I played Seadrum all the way thru maybe once before selling it. All those later Super Roots rehash and then the loud/quiet/loud drum panning got a little formulaic after ohhh idk, 5 years of them playing the same shit?

Dan: Try "The Zookeeper's Boy" or "Cartoons and Macrame Wounds" by Mew.

DIE ANTWOORD $O$
TONETTA777

omg POPULATION 4 ... a real bad black spot in an otherwise excellent back catalogue.

though to be fair, that came out in 1997 ... not the 2000s.

the Brian Wilson Smile album

oh wait i love seadrum/house of sun, though BOREDRUMS shit was aptly named

btw, everything ever posted on fluxblog

^.^

sometimes i get actually angry that i once really liked badly drawn boy

was gonna mention him (bought the first album). still like 'silent sigh' tho.

i actually paid baller $ for his first EP and that wretched music box thing. fortunately i cashed out before the market crashed

i wz watching Purple Rain a couple weeks ago it was great but then my mom want to put on stupid NCAA Final Four...

Prince rulez...

Radio 4. I convinced myself I liked their first couple albums because I had no problems with Clash/GO4 worship. But then I witnessed their stiff, joyless live show.

xp - The Darkness remain awesome.

Anti Pop Consortium. I think I spent a long time trying to convince myself they were good. I haven't heard Flourescent Black, but it's supposed to be better than their earlier stuff?

I bought Anti-Pop Consortium's first album too (Tragic Monologue, or whatever it was called?) when a local newspaper praised it to the high heavens, so I guess I fell for it. That album lead me to discover Apani B Fly though, so it wasn't a total loss.

i listened to that first big mashups thing The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever and it was still pretty amusing i thought

Anti-Pop Consortium's first album too (Tragic Monologue, or whatever it was called?)

Tragic Epilogue.

lol

if I may pull out some bullshit trump cards here:

-Tommy Lee's first solo album
-P.O.D. (though I'll still rep for "Alive" as one of the least worst nu-metal hits)
-the post-grunge band Default
-early '00s Barenaked Ladies, all the way up to their effort to rekindle the magic of "One Week" with a rap about chimpanzees, and their collaboration w/ the Blue Man Group. "Falling for the First Time" and "Too Little too Late" were decent singles, though.
-Staind
-that Fastball album that didn't have "One Week" on it

The Bare Naked Ladies collaborating with the Blue Man Group, man, that is really something.

the Brian Wilson Smile album

i kinda agree.

Been a long time since I played it.

Brian Wilson's album wasn't that bad.

yeah, it's really good, which is easy to forget because the original Smile Sessions with Carl and Dennis and pre-breakdown Brian are really really good. the 2004 version is one of my favorite albums that I have almost no impulse to play on a regular basis.

xpost speaking as someone who was too young and too new to Brian Wilson/Beach Boys to comprehend or be swayed by the context of why Brian Wilson's Smile release was so important, I bought it and can easily say that Smile stands on its own as a beautiful piece of work. And certainly isn't "bullshit".

I also don't care if there are journalists who might lionize it more than it properly deserves - they're the ones with the extra spunk on their trousers, not me.

they're the ones with the extra spunk on their trousers, not me.

disturbingly vivid imagry.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9558/dirtyworkpantsfb.jpg

rockcrits, ca. 2004

rock critics and their power tools.

it's a living.

A.F.I. For a good portion of my college career, it was possible to convince myself that their transition from hardcore to mallpunk was an "artistic evolution" that would, once critically examined years later and detached from the adolescent Warped Tour scene, would be heralded. College is weird.

dude answer that and stay fashionable or whatever is still kind of awesome but yeah i got really baffled when i realized that the dudes that got booked in the teen center of my college town were now MTV SUPERSTARS

hey I only just read this thread

i have a feeling i'd be embarrassed if i revisited the Go! Team but don't quote me on that yet

Heard them on the radio on the weekend, was surprised and delighted to still dig it

Latter shitness of The Streets doesn’t taint the first two records. Tuomas should try some remixes of the first album’s singles.

Loved Aegatis Byrun but didn’t buy the () one, doubt I’d feel ashamed if I listened to the former again

i truly loved grime + to this day feel frustrated with what happened to that scene. like do ppl listen to it back now and think its just bad

I loved grime blogs and have no sadness whatsoever that the scene imploded or wilted or whatever, I got to enjoy a bunch of songs, imagine a scene, and look forward to nostalgically hearing Cock Back, Fwd Riddim, When I’m Ere, Shake Ya Bum, Ch-Ching, and dozens of others if I ever get my ipod battery replaced

Still haven’t heard Drukqs but Analord was great so no writing Aphex off

Horrific memories of getting REALLY excited when I heard the Vines cover of Ms Jackson

Totally enjoyed this when it was on the radio every day, 1,000 times better than any other Vines song

00s were too late for me to fall for bullshit. I fell for some in the 90s, and probably a lot in the 80s.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro),

lol <3

geez i don't even buy xmas presents for my friends let alone ppl i work with who i don't like

'in my experience calling a girl annoying is guy for "i'm gonna try and fuck that chick". its an instant break up in my book.' truth bombs

I still cringe with embarrassment after bragging to my friends that I had inside knowledge that it was going to get a pfork 10.0 thanks to getting duped by that ilm thread

This wins the thread

Art Brut loooool

Still like the first album/singles, didn’t buy the second

raveonettes are great! just awesome JSMC and motown rips!

Agreed but only ever played the second and third albums once each. Third was a bit better than the second IIRC.

during the 00s i went to see autechre, shitmat, modeselektor, andy c (lol?), squarepusher, venetian snares etc. would not repeat.

Saw Modeselektor twice, had a great time twice

The Strokes have always sucked but I am happy for people who liked them at the time that they still like them!

Battles? How are they tasting to y'all at this remove?

― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:38 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I just came back to this thread to say "battles"

I still like Battles

I was pretty infatuated with Why? circa Elephant Eyelash. By the time Alopecia came out I found his whole shtick embarrassing. Still like cLOUDDEAD though.

Dirty Projectors.

Someone once pointed out that Battles is Primus for people who think they're too cool to like Primus. I could never hear them the same way after that.

I was way into Chromeo for awhile, but I still sort of have positive feelings about them even if I haven't heard any of their recent stuff.

There's no excuse for how much I liked Weezer's green album at the time, though.

Battles is Primus for people who think they're too cool to like Primus

lol! totally makes sense. i have the last disc, but i think i've only played the one single, which i still like, if only for the funny distorted vocals.

There's no excuse for how much I liked Weezer's green album at the time, though.

I was 15 years old, loved the album and it was one of my first concerts as well. I won tix from a local radio station to see a Green Album "preview" show, pretty exclusive entry. This was 4-5 days before the album came out -- they played a handful of new songs, "Say It Ain't So," maybe the sweater thing? I forget.

I stick by my tastes throughout the 00s. Don't get me started on the 90s though.

errr, ilxor, i think you're talking about the Blue Album.

There's no excuse for how much I liked Weezer's green album at the time, though.

naw man I heard hash pipe on the radio at a bar last night and it's a solid jam for sure

errr, ilxor, i think you're talking about the Blue Album.

I should've said, "they played a handful of new songs, along with older jams such as "Say It Ain't So," maybe the sweater thing?"

The green album is fucking ace. It is their best album.

Someone mentioned the Fiery Furnaces. Allow me to second that.

I can't hear Andrew Bird anymore without cringing. That,maybe.

MIA