i will absolutely second andy summers, if you could surgically remove sting from the police you have one of the best duos ever
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Depending on criteria -- chops, technique, innovative qualities, the dreaded 'influence" -- you could make arguments for a lot of different guitar players, such as John Martyn, Blixa Bargeld, Neil Young, Steve Howe, etc, etc...
Also, an observation: only dudes seem to get included in these lists and only dudes seem to care.
― Lostandfound, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe, but fwiw, my vote was for gabriela, of rodrigo y gabriela.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Nancy fucking Wilson.
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
manics fella can hold his own, he also did all of the suicide (maybe he did maybe he didn't)(4 real) guys parts in the studio too!
― not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
also, nick drake? technically brilliant, but that was part of his downfall, live shows boring, people lost interest because he's spending time between songs with weird tuning.
― not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Lol btw, where I said "Joe Satriani" could you actually substitute "Steve Vai" because that is who I actually meant
unlike Satriani, Vai has actually played on decent records (primarily early DLR solo) so he gets a little bit of a pass from me
― Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, an observation: only dudes seem to get included in these lists and only dudes seem to care.― Lostandfound, Friday, 9 April 2010 23:31 (9 minutes ago)
Yip, very true, a big circle jerk going on here -- a bit like the "what's yer fave solo" thread.
*unzips trews* ....ahem....
Neil Young
― Duke, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
what makes "best guitarist of all time"song writing skillstechnique soundoriginality... etc
― not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
a few women have been cited already but its no mystery that the vast vast majority of guitarists, and particularly lead guitarists, are male. I love plenty of female musicians but most of them don't have any interest in coming off as guitar virtuosos (some exceptions to this, of course, primarily in the metal world - Nancy Wilson, Lita Ford, etc.) All those riot grrrls played lots of loud guitars but the only ones who seemed to really rise above the general squall as far as technical chops go would be Sleater-Kinney, I imagine...? Was never blown away by any of the guitar playing on Bikini Kill or Huggy Bear records.
― Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Joan Jett and Dolly Parton are amazing songwriters/performers but I don't really rate either's guitar picking as all that special, for ex.
― Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Hearty assent to Nick Drake, amazing technique, amazing style. A bunch of guys from that brit pastoral tradition not being mentioned in this thread. Jansch etc.
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Have never heard Kaki King but she seems to get the plaudits?
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
eh never been that impressed by Nick Drake - half the songs on Pink Moon use the same melodic trick over and over for ex. Someone like Jansch is obviously next level but lolz thought this hypothetical listing was strictly electric...?
― Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I was doing the 6 music 30 yr.
Should read thread title
Fahey and Drake without a doubt
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Baden Powell (not the Boy Scout guy but the Brazilian bossa nova guitarist named after him). Dude had an such a delicate and soulful touch that listening to it makes me want to cry. I'm generally not a guitar fanatic, but Baden Powell's Canto on Guitar is one of my favourite albums ever.
― Tuomas, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
it's worth pointing out that i'm not really a guitar jock kind of guy. most of my favorite male musicians are not virtuosos, or even guitar players at all
there is a sociological issue/path dependence problem where guitar jock-ism is not a route for young women, tho, it's true.
― goole, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
And Bert J
Right, I'm off to shoot owls
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
There are a ton of great guitarists, from David Byrne to Wilko Johnson to Link Wray, who were massively influentially, but perhaps better known for a sound or style than actual technique. And in terms of influence alone, yeah, those sorts of would be totally different from "best" lists. So basically ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
It's Clive Langer.
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 9 April 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Rick Didjit from da DidjitsStan Lee Dickies
Stuart Hall
strengthened my pathetique boner
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 9 April 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
richard lloyd
― Trollmatic Reflexions (ojo), Friday, 9 April 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Richard Lloyd deserves more props. Until I saw Television live, I assumed all the big solos were Verlaine, but no, many of them are Lloyd. Verlaine is great and tends to do the weirder, more angular stuff, but the super-heroic soaring solos are Lloyd.
If this is best guitarist of all time, as opposed to the 6Music 30 years thing, then the possibilities are limitless. But here are a few all time favourites:
Sonny Sharrock, especially when he does the slide freakouts.
Richard Thompson, especially once he switched to a Strat and developed this amazing drone and twang sound. The guitar breaks on When I Get To The Border are incredible, and his solo in Shoot Out The Lights is angular, spiky and vicious.
Eddie Hazel. Funkadelic axe god. Super Stupid, Maggot Brain...
John Martyn, a brilliant acoustic picker, but particularly of note for his inspired use of echo and volume swells. Small Hours is heartbreakingly beautiful. Gotta love his synth guitar experiments too. Smooooth.
The mysterious Nicholas of Love, Cry, Want... INCREDIBLE free jazz/rock from the mid 70s. Dude plays a prototype synth guitar. Completely wild ring mod damaged freakouts over Gallivan's percussion and Larry Young's keyboards.
Neil Young, John McLaughlin, Steve Howe, Ernest Ranglin, Mick Green, Jimi Hendrix, Steve Cropper, J Mascis, D Boon, Carlos Alomar, Mick Ronson, Paul Leary, Tony Iommi, George Harrison, Robbie Robertson, Keith Levene...
― Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^only good list in this revive
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
list pfunkboy posted to start the revive is just a sad fucking commentary on the state of guitar playing in music ppl actually listen to
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
hey dont blame me!! ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i didn't, just sayin dogg
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
like i stan hard for a lot of r.e.m. but buck's guitar rep is entirely based on like one thing he did in the early 80s
muse guy and radiohead guy are insane britisher picks
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Larry Coryell, based on his first few solo albums and some of what preceded them. Weird that he doesn't appear earlier in this thread...
― dlp9001, Saturday, 10 April 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Radiohead guy is really good, come on. If we're talking technique, the actual best guitarists are probably noodling behind the counters in guitar stores, or playing lutes in orchestras tbh. The best I ever saw was a young guy playing flamenco in a bar in Jerez, I'll cast for him.
Also Oranthi Panagaris, if you want female virtuosity.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 April 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link
No love here for Michael Timmins?
― anagram, Saturday, 10 April 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaBNAXfHfQ
― Turangalila, Saturday, 10 April 2010 07:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i dig that clip. also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoq6_2xnQeY&feature=player_embedded
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 10 April 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link
These lists are so frustrating because as noted earlier, they're basically just lists of people's favorite guitarists.
So I'll do the same. If I had to make a short list it would look something like:
John McGeoch (Johnny Marr would rally for him before himself)Peter Koppes/Marty Willson-Piper (OK I'm biased here)Ed Kuepper (those who only know him from The Saints really need to listen to Laughing Clowns/solo albums)Nick McCabe
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 April 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Forgot Michaels Karoli and Rother! Also, Derek Bailey, Joe Morris, Robbie Basho, Steffan Bash Jungans, Sandy Bull, John Renbourne, Ike Turner, Curtis Mayfield...
― Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Ooh, Ben Chasny.
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
If I was going to pick best female guitarist, I would say Charo.
― Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
This should be so simple. Just count raving fanboys and tote up the winner.
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― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
the only three people I can listen to play an extended guitar solo are Prince, Eddie Hazel and Frank Zappa, fwiw
― i'm so j0rd with the u.S.a (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
There is a lack of Uli Roth on this thread. A sad, sad lack.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, horror director, actor and master guitarist; is there anything he can't do?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Har, Har. Ulrich Jon Roth - that better? The link between Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
and in the Britpop category, rampaging at the fore are Martin Carr and Graham Coxon
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The whole thread premise is kind of dumb. It was a C-Man thread, that should have tipped everyone. Best in a certain style? Proficient in the most styles? It's too broad; confuses "favorite" with "best," which is a crock no matter what xhuxk says.
That said, Whiney's post did prompt me to go listen to "Holiday in Berlin (Full Blown)" this morning. Fantastic solo.
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.lastingtribute.co.uk/image/George_Formby_2781317.jpg
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Got a soft spot for Manuel Gottsching and Gabor Szabo.
― Moka, Friday, 16 April 2010 04:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Whom, by the way, haven't been mentioned at all on this thread. Shame on you ilx.
― Moka, Friday, 16 April 2010 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I would have mentioned both had I ever heard of either.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 16 April 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Gabor Szabo's pretty amazing, sorta Django Rinehart v 2.0
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link