After The Goldrush

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Twentieth-century blues. Do you like it like I like it?

the pinefox, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Canadians know jack-shit about the blues! Except for the 'blue' they turn whenever they go outdoors! (Actually 'Gold Rush' is fine but perhas predictably enough I'm an 'On the Beach' type guy)

dave q, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

yea, on the beach is the best one (just ahead of everybody knows this is nowhere), goldrush is pretty good though. i get more ambivalent about neil young as time goes on though. i mean, last week i was in one of those 2nd hand thrift store blah blah places with the rows odf endless brown cords and the petrol attendant shirts with 'jessie' nametag deals, and they were playing zuma, and i'll tell you what, barstool blues and stupid girl just seemed, well, really embarrassing. it sounds awful but i couldn't help feeling, you're such a dick neil, you know how people diss john peel, and you're like, how can you have a go at peelie man? but then, you start to think, well it does wear thin after a while, and actually come to think of it you could really do with beating him over the head until he shuts the fuck up. i've got to thinking about that about goodguy neil, could you imagine going for a drink with that guy? oh i know its cruel, but i just can't help it. sorry!

gareth, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

yeah but neil young is so fragile - that's what's very endearing about him - he's not trying to be a real blues singer like all his horrible comrades - and then he's not trying to be fragile either, he's being sarcastic - so there's all these things he's not trying to be, thank god! and then his music sounds crappy and thin, because it lacks the coherent form that a mask gives it, but you love him, because he revealed himself to you.

maryann, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

If you're talking about the song, rather than the LP, pinefox, I would have to say it's more "post 196O's blues". All our hopes are shattered blah blah all that's left is escape.

ha ha - too close scutiny of Neil Young songs ends in discussions like this one!

Jeff W, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oops - "this one" was supposed to be a link to: http://www.voy.com/18861/38.html

Jeff W, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Doesn't most recorded blues come from the twentieth-century? Though After the Gold Rush is pretty good, yes.

Justyn Dillingham, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

never heard the Neil Young version, but the acapella version that Prelude had a hit with was quite interesting

michael, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I prefer the Neil & The Shocking Pinks album.

Winkelmann, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"When You Dance You Can Really Love" has to go down as one of his classics. The album must have sounded brilliant in those early 70s California summers!

David Gunnip, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Rust is brown. Tonight is black. So can Gold Rush be blue? No. Is it gold? No, it's after gold, so it's silver. Makes me think of moonlight reflecting off the Mississippi. Even though he's Canadian.

B-Rad, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Dave Q - didn't the Band 'understand' the blues?

I'm prob. being too literal here, but Neil seems much more pampered and self-pitying than yer average bluesman, and more in touch w/ his feminine side. That weedy high voice of his isn't very 'masculine' - it admits to a softness, a fragility that's missing from Howlin' Wolf, say - although Ike Turner might've approved of 'Welfare Mothers' ("make better lovers") or any song called 'A Man Needs A Maid' (god I wish there was a whole alb of Young/Nietzsche orch pop, not just that track).

'After the Goldrush' has never been one of my real faves - yeah, 'On the Beach' is prob. THE one - the greatest alb in the world currently unavailable on CD? I was always slightly wary of 'Sleeps With Angels' 'cos of the Kurt trib, but actually it's one of his best recs ...

Andrew L, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

To clarify my own thought -

1) I meant the song, not the LP;

2) I know it's not blues - it's not remotely blues: I meant in a Noel Coward- meets-Eric Hobsbawm sense. (Yes - *that* sense. ??)

3) Dr C - do you have a view?

the pinefox, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, or rather I will when I get the chance to listen to it again tonight. In general NY is of no interest to me, but this song is one of two or three of his that I like. Will report back.

Dr. C, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yup, like it plenty: Album, song, even the Prelude cover.

Matt Riedl (veal), Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

My fave Neil Young album by a long way. But I only have four. Midn you, the other three are Harvest, ...Knows This Is Nowhere... and that double live one. Rust Never Sleeps?

Nick Southall, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think it is perhaps the most repugnant album ever made. Second only to Harvest.

davidh(owie), Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

And I love Neil Young.

davidh(owie), Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Even Journey Through The Past OST hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

davidh(owie), Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

great album, great song. the only piano song on that album if i remember well. though the horn adds something to it. somehow this song makes me think of joni mitchell. they had a relation around that time. the lyrics are simple but difficult to decipher. i'd like to know to whom joni referred when she sang i could drink a case of you and i'd still be on my feet on blue. that was one year later. neil sings of the seventies when they just had begun. does the title after the goldrush refer to the end of the golden 60s flower power thing? it is a very melancholic song. by the way listening to this album helped in overcoming the break-up of my first big love story. i hated neil's voice before. especially in heart of gold from harvest.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It is a great album and a great song. It's been many years since I've played it, one day I will again. Did I mention how great the song is?

I read somewhere that a bunch of copies were pressed with the image in the gatefold mistakenly being the image from "The Slider".

Sean, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Is that an old woman shaped backpack he has on his back on the cover?

David H(owie), Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

In the liner notes it says: "Most of these songs were inspired by the Dean Stockwell-Herb Berman screenplay 'After the Goldrush'". I couldn't find any info on this in the Internet Movie Database. Is this screenplay fictitious? Coming back to the title, gold seems to play an important role for Neil. Gold implies greed and destruction of the nature and the natives to underline the power of the white man in Cortez the Killer. On the other hand gold has got an innocent pure connotation like in "I'm a miner for a heart of gold". Many interesting interpretations of the lyrics of this song can be found in the discussion here. Without reading those posts I would never have guessed that Neil possibly is singing about nuclear disaster.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
in hopes to answer more than one question posed on this site.
after the goldrush was a screenplay, but it was never turned into a movie. this is why it is not on IMDB.
neil young is NOT a blues singer. anyone who makes this mistake does not know music. neil was first and formost a folk singer. his rock is amplified folk, or folk-rock (with a bit of country.)
the best example of this was everybody knows this is nowhere.(for the heavy)or goldrush(for the folkie)
everything after that phase (5-6 albums) was a genre exersize, and some are better than others.
TO RECAP:
NOT A BLUES MUSICIAN
IF YOU WANT BLUES.... LOOK UP JEFF BECK "TRUTH" OR SAVOY BROWN'S EARLY ALBUMS.
NEIL YOUNG DOES NOT PLAY THE BLUES.
AMPLIFIED FOLK WITH COUNTRY MUSIC THROWN-IN FOR GOOD MEASURE.
all the best.
brian.

brian goldberg, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 04:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

neil was first and formost a folk singer. his rock is amplified folk, or folk-rock (with a bit of country.) ... NOT A BLUES MUSICIAN

exactement

Noel Coward- meets-Eric Hobsbawm

wtf does that mean?!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 05:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Has anyone ever read the (unproduced) Dean Stockwell screenplay? It has a wonderful, grandiose title appropriate to that era when the Western mythology was getting a makeover.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 07:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

since we're clarifying things in this thread with FACTS, man, can i add to mr goldberg's remarks by pointing out the pinefox is NOT a four-legged mammal related to the stoat but a human being

TO RECAP: i am NOT a character from a TV show created by Serge Danot in 1965, all appearances to the contrary

zebedee, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 19:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

sixteen years pass...

Yay for Neil. (Three very famous women doing a pretty good cover of "After the Gold Rush" on the Grammys.)

clemenza, Monday, 11 February 2019 02:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Ha, just saw that. Was a little surprised.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Monday, 11 February 2019 02:09 (two months ago) Permalink

easily the evening's highlight too

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2019 02:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Makes me sad kacey didn't foreshadow it with "space cowboy" though (going by Twitter, anyway)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 11 February 2019 02:13 (two months ago) Permalink


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