should i give the grateful dead a chance?

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is there more to them than 'dark' and 'truckin''? i was playing a television record and my dorm room mate said the english always compared them to the dead and that lee renaldo of sonic youth likes the dead as well as greg ginn of black flag. why are the dead so uncool? what should i try to listen to? (i know i don't like deadheads very much. tie-dye is as ugly as doing lsd in the mud). do my parents know something i don't?

(note, i've only been getting into music the past year. before that i just heard whatever on the radio and usually didnt like it. that should explain why i sound so dumb).

benton, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Short answer: NO.

Do not give the Grateful Dead a chance. I have given the Grateful Dead several chances, and they continue to bore me solid. Friends say "Oh, you're into 60s garage, listen to their first album..." nope, sorry, it's still uninspired hippie stoner jams. Friends say "Oh, you like spacerock, listen to this or that experimental jam album..." nope, sorry, it's still uninspired hippie stoner jam drivel. Friends say "Oh, you have to listen to it on acid to get it." I listened to it on acid. It only stretched the INTERMINABLE boredom to the breaking point where it was a relief to sit and listen to radio static afterwards.

I think that Deadheadism is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. If you have it, you will like them. If you do not have it, then no ammount of "Dude, no, you have to hear this most ultimate jam session that they did on this super-rare collectible live bootleg out-take from 1973..." in the world will ever convince you to find even a modicum of interest.

I know that calling a band "boring" is verboten on this forum. The Dead are not just boring, they are interminable, self indulgent, they noodle, they wibble, they do not drone in a transcendant manner, no they ANNIHILATE any sense of enjoyment of music to the point where I would rather listen to elevator music rather than the Dead. In fact, that is what they are. They are the elevator music of hippie stoner jam psychedelia.

Do not waste your time. Sing along with the hoover instead.

kate, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'IS there more than [I assume you mean] 'Dark Star'? WTF? That's like saying "IS there more to the Sistine Chapel than the motherfucking ceiling?" Like, what else do you need in your life? (Besides 'BLues for Allah'!) Also, what's wrong with 'annihilating enjoyment'? Music is supposed to annihilate stuff, doesn't matter what it is.

dave q, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

As so often Kate is OTM. I bought "Live/Dead" a while ago as it appears on almost any milestone album list and it is rubbish. Aimless noodling. Only if you like epic guitar masturbation jams GD are yor you. I never understood how Lee Ranaldo could like them. But I have the feeling that "Murray Street" is the closest Sonic Youth have ever come to the sound of the Dead. It nevertheless is a million times better than anything I have ever heard of Garcia and his lot.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Just say no.

Andrew L, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Q: What do Grateful Dead fans say when they run out of drugs?

A: God this band are shit.

(Keith Richards tells that gag - which is a bit rich considering that 'Can You Hear Me Knocking' sounds just like the Dead...)

Andrew L, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are both snappy acoustic albums full of fine songs rather than rambling instrumental stuff.

I think they're worth checking out rather than applying some knee jerk reaction. But obviously lots of people don't agree.

Winkelmann, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

rather than applying some knee jerk reaction

Did you even read my fucking post? This is not some knee jerk reaction. This is a carefully thought out aesthetic decision that I have reached after repeated exposure and more consideration that I would give to most bands who repeatedly bombarded me with shit.

kate, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh why bother converting anybody - they're either 'on the bus or off!'

dave q, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've heard 10 seconds of American Beauty and about a minute of Workingman's Dead and I can can safely say that they will not be troubling my ears again, unless by accident. Don't do it, Benton.

Everything about the Grateful Dead is repulsive - the music (yes I *can* judge them on a minute or so), the fans, the mythology.... They're a crystallisation of everything I dislike in music.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you're looking to give a chance to a band, give it to an unknown band, not a bloated band.

Dave225, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DIRTY HIPPY!

Chris, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm drawn back to this thread like a moth to a flame, just like I'm always drawn back to the Dead against my better judgment...

The thing is, I love the IDEA of the Dead - the endless noodling jams, those moments of improvisation when they reach the mythical 'zone', the community of fans, all those bootlegs to tick off and collect, the Verlaine-esque sound of Garcia's gtr, the vast quantities of drugs etc etc.

But - their recs just never seem to live up to the rep - before I ever listened to them, I imagined they were like the most mega-cosmic freak out group of all time, but when I finally did spin a few of their albs all I got was wimpy country-lite w/ really terrible singing. They rarely seem to rock out in any meaningful way, their cover versions are just AWFUL (esp. the 'bluesy' Pigpen-led stuff) and Hunter's lyrics are hippy bilge.

Without wishing to sound too alt snooty, Ghost and esp. Acid Mothers Temple do the whole folk-psych rock jam thing w/ so much more passion, imagination and freaky fun.

Andrew L, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Where do you hide your money from a Deadhead?
Under the soap...

How can you tell a Deadhead has been at your house?
They're still there!

Spongebob, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice "Box of Rain" reference, Andrew. For anyone interested, here is another thread on the Dead.

Mark, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"bloated" = 12 lizards' most successful meme-project evah

mark s, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

After avoiding the Grateful Dead for years and years, Biba Kopf's insane pro-Dead rantings convinced me to give Live/Dead a chance. It turns out that I like it pretty well but most everything else I hear is painful.

Just stay away from American Beauty 'cause it's terrible beyond words. And the best-of collection that all my loser quasi-hippie friends have is ass too.

adam, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Another joke: Jerry Garcia and Eric Clapton are captured by cannibals one day. Before they are about to be cooked for dinner they are granted one final wish. Jerry says "hand me my old guitar and let me play Dark Star one last time...". Eric says "please kill me before he starts". (For once I can sympathize with Eric Clapton, actually I think I have never listened to the 23 minutes and 15 seconds of this first track on Live/Dead from start to end. I'd probably drop dead because of nuisance before the end.)

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Recycling the same lame gag = also a 'tribute' to the Dead...

Andrew L, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'Can You Hear Me Knocking' sounds just like the Dead...

No, I don't think I recall the Dead ever having extended sax solos in any of their songs.

hstencil, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I don't think I recall the Dead ever having extended sax solos in any of their songs.

You obviously never heard Branford Marsalis jam with them, then.

I knew when I saw this thread appear it would be full of the usual "the Dead are the worst band ever" stuff... they seem to be one of a small handful of bands it's ok to heap your worst insults on around here. So I'll do my usual and say yes "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead" are full of concise, well-written pop songs, their mid 70's LPs on their own label are amazing ("Blues for Allah" is my pick), and as great a guitarist as Tom Verlaine is, Garcia is better. He's a better vocalist, too. I know that for whatever reason the Dead are a band many people will just never permit themselves to like, so I expect to make no converts.

Sean, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Benton- check 'live/dead' and see what you think of it. And don't forget to give it a few listens on the headphones, too. The reason why some ppl passionately hate them is prob. because their sound really sounds from a completely diff era. The fact that ppl justify their hatred by the citing the fact that hippies listen to them is enough to surely dismiss their reckless opinions. Though andrew L has a good argument as ususal. But I found something to listen to in their jams and he didn't.

I think SY owe a lot to the dead in the way that they'd start a song and then they would use that as a basis for a jam and get back to the song.

The singing isn't to everyone's tastes but at a time when ppl are listening to Thom Yorke that isn't such a big problem.

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But Julio, Kate has clearly heard them as well. You're not dismissing her out of hand, yes?

For myself, they don't trouble my interest, and I can't say they will be anytime soon.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I don't think I recall the Dead ever having extended sax solos in any of their songs.

You obviously never heard Branford Marsalis jam with them, then.

Nope, and although I'm sure he's, uh, "funkier" than his brother, I can't imagine his jams with the Dead approach the instrumental break of "Can You Hear Me Knocking" (which was, after all, used by many a black "urban" radio station in the 1970s as promo music). Anyway, the point was that the claim that "Can You Hear Me Knocking" sounds like the Dead is way, way off-base.

hstencil, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Have I just stumbled into Dawson's Creek series 4?

david h, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ned- kate was OK until the line below:

''I think that Deadheadism is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. If you have it, you will like them. If you do not have it, then no ammount of "Dude, no, you have to hear this most ultimate jam session that they did on this super-rare collectible live bootleg out- take from 1973..." in the world will ever convince you to find even a modicum of interest.''

it's bollocks! any band will have it's fans and haters but to dismiss it as 'chemical imbalance' is bullshit. Plus the 'annihalate' line (see dave q's ans).

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That line was the funniest part of Kate's post!

Personally, the only song of theirs that I can instantly recognize is "Touch Of Grey". I'm fine with that.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

it was funny, yes, I second that!

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

how is television like the grateful dead? why do people say that? my room mate, yancy, says its because of the the two guitars. is that true?

benton, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

you should definitely give them a try, particularly before '74 (live). Live/Dead is the make or break place to start; took me about five listens but soon I understood the big deal. Rhino's recent WB-era box is a lot to ask of a novice, so wait till they reissue each album individually and then go for it; the remastering is astounding, sounds 100 times better and I loved it already anyway....

M Matos, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

the thing is, when the Dead were on they were ON. they could be the most heartbreaking, moving band in the world. the problem is 90% of the time they WEREN't on.

chaki, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Friend of the Devil is a flat-out amazing song. I used to be in a band with my dad and we did this song. It's fucking great.

Yancey, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

MMatos in I Love the Dead shocker.

Mark, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been exposed to thier music countless times by many people who have a good understanding of what I like/ don't like. I just can't seem to find anything by them that would be worth my time to keep a copy of. The stuff we are all bombarded with is usually lite country or big noodling solos that for me go nowhere, while the live tapes you gotta hear maaannn is the same, but with alot more noodling that goes nowhere.

brg30, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Ripple" is a great song if someone else sings it

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A: "Hey, what are you listening to?"
B: "Oh, it's, uh, Kremlin Tiger Flower, uh, 2506. Have you heard them before?"
A: "Hmmm, it sounds familiar."
B: "They're a Japanese noise band from the '70s. Original LPs are like $500 on Ebay, but, uh, this label out of Amsterdam just reissued their album and I got it from Forced Exposure."
A: "Oh, yeah, I've heard of that...wow, this is awesome. It sounds like Sonic Youth or the Dead C or something."
B: "Yeah, I can hear that, I guess."
A: (listens) "Totally. Sonic Youth is totally ripping these guys off."
(pause)
B: "Actually, I'm just fucking with you. It's a Dead bootleg, they're doing 'Feedback'."
A: "It's a Dead C bootleg? Wow, this is, like, the best stuff I've ever heard from them. How'd you get -- "
B: "No, no, it's the Grateful Dead."
A: (runs screaming from the room, snarky hipster credibility permanently ruined)

Phil, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

P.S. I love Live/Dead, "Box of Rain", some other stuff. On the other hand, there's plenty of Grateful Dead that is of no interest to me. I was listening to their first album today, and was quite surprised at how little of it appealed to me.

Phil, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

My personal favorite is Dick's Picks 4... but I agree Live/Dead is a good place to start. Also check out the studio versions of some of their songs (as people have already mentioned): "Friend of the Devil," "Ripple," "Uncle John's Band," "Playing in the Band," "China Cat Sunflower," and "Jack Straw."

aaron m, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

thank you everyone for great suggestions. you are much appreciated.

benton, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Surprised that no one has namechecked John Oswald's _Grayfolded_ which is a dozen or so different "Dark Star"s run together into a plunderphonic whole. Worth checking out - certainly a lot more interesting than _Live/Dead_ or any of the other endless collections of chicken-scratch guitar.

If you're still hell bent on checking out the Dead, I'd start with any of the Dick's Picks live releases from 1972 or earlier. Even then, listening to them are like trying to dig for gold in a mine that's been completely played out. There's a lot of shovelling involved for very little payoff.

Chris Barrus, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil, that reminds me of something I wrote a couple years ago....

M Matos, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha phil's post about fooling someone that it's the grunt mountain travelling flower band or some shit is so right on...fuck the deadc., fuck em!

new doorag boogie, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

what chaki said is pretty much exactly true tho. wtf i'm still on the bus, not that i'd wanna have much to do w/ the other ocupants.

, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Chicago's 'feedback' is still better than the Dead's 'feedback'.

Andrew L, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Andrew, I think you mean "Free Form Guitar". Which IS classic, btw.

dave q, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

chicago transit authority (to give em their full title) > the dead c.!

unknown or illegal user, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i find it hard to believe that someone could confuse the Dead C with the Grateful Dead. Besides the ingestion of pot and long songs, I don't see the connection (and yes I have heard more than my fair share of both Garcia & Co and the Dead C -- I'm not making a value judgement about which group is better) -- does Bruce Russell sell hand painted ties too?

Jack Cole, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Brain chemistry has a HELL of a lot to do with why some people fine some music interesting and others don't. I did not invalidate my argument, I proved it. I have had long discussions with friends about brain chemistry leading people to like dronerock, and how repeated exposure to ultra-high volume feedback can change brain chemistry. Listening to the piece of music while stoned, while on coke, while drunk, while on E (for various examples) can result in completely different experiences of the music.

How is the Grateful Dead any different?

There must just be a neurotransmitter that makes people like SHIT, that is the explanation.

kate, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DIRTY HIPPY!

Chris, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

do you mean that you've had long conversations with your neurochemist friends?

Josh, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

For anyone on the bus or Dead-curious: this The Other One is superb, and the ending-> is something else. March 20 1977

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-03-20.145511.mtx.motb0226.flac16/gd1977-03-20.mtx.motb.0226.d2t05.flac

llurk, Friday, 20 March 2020 23:28 (four months ago) link

Thrilled to announce that I’ll be performing the National Anthem for Sunday’s FOX @NASCAR iRACING race on @FOXTV, @FS1 and the FOX Sports App at 1:00 PM ET from the comforts of home. Tune in! pic.twitter.com/p3986M4YhY

— Bob Weir (@BobWeir) March 27, 2020

morrisp, Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:12 (four months ago) link

the row jimmy from this show is probably my favorite xp

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:25 (four months ago) link

Heres Bob Weir singin the national anthem for the Esports nascar race lmao pic.twitter.com/ndYnBzO26y

— Kent (Bene Gesserit) (@kentdunne) March 29, 2020

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:34 (four months ago) link

not as bad as i would have thought but the digital element is extremely bizarre. didn't know they were literally airing a simulation lmao

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:36 (four months ago) link

do we have Rolling Most 2020 Video thread

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:50 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYVMyClU0AA_a1c.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:18 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaQ8r-SwR2c

no 30-year old has looked older than 1972 Jerry Garcia

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 May 2020 07:23 (two months ago) link

i took this as a challenge. my thought here is that you gotta go with the former child stars. macaulay culkin. danny bonaduce.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:46 (two months ago) link

I maintain that 1940s and 1950s movie actors are the all-time champions of looking 50 at 30.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:53 (two months ago) link

I think Garcia definitely looks early 40s in that clip. Ten years later at age 40 and I dunno, 55? 60?

https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/193427782/Jerry_Garcia1_1982.jpg?auto=format&fit=max&w=780

Bonaduce at age 30. I would guess late 40s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ro5jLUrOA

Culkin at age 30, otoh, still looking young for his age.

https://www.wmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/24/5b572658c51225203f2ba132_GettyImages-83386408.jpg?fit=3534%2C3000

peace, man, Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:00 (two months ago) link

no 30-year old has looked older than 1972 Jerry Garcia

Howard Kaylan looked older when he was 21.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:07 (two months ago) link

i guess there's, like, different sorts of aging, and a lot of it is very related to gendered presentation

beards make people look older. particularly long, graying beards. paradoxically they can also cover up a lot of the signs of visible aging in the skin - bonaduce's aging is from living a hard life. one can also see premature aging in a lot of people who do sex work, i've noticed.

my go-to for premature aging is someone like mark e. smith. he also had the classic british poor dental hygiene symptoms of premature aging, but by the time he was 60 he looked about 150 years old. he was also dying and had not been taking care of himself for decades at that point, though. i don't remember what he looked like in '87. i tried looking it up and there was this truly awful clickbait video and i had to give up.

howard kaylan looking old in his 20s seems more of a style thing than anything else

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:15 (two months ago) link

Style and the grey hair, which I'm so pleased he never tried to hide.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:18 (two months ago) link

I've seen lots of 60 year old men who look as bad as MES!

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:19 (two months ago) link

Richard Manuel at 33 in the Last Waltz gives Jerry a run for his money

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 May 2020 14:34 (two months ago) link

can we go back to the box set that revived this? all that shitty colored vinyl, jeez.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:35 (two months ago) link

Why is Workingman's purple?

peace, man, Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:37 (two months ago) link

because P S Y C H E D E L I C B A N D S O F Y O R E O N C O L O R E D V I N Y L

also, "shut up and give us money"

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 May 2020 17:47 (two months ago) link



Really crisp mix. Chicago June 76. Lesh bass tone is deep af

calstars, Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:20 (two months ago) link

Damn “mission in the rain,” cool sh1t

calstars, Monday, 25 May 2020 23:11 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-355-hour-playlist/

355-Hour Spotify Playlist Puts Every Official Grateful Dead Live Release In Chronological Order

(up to 362 hrs now, playlist link in story)

Irritable Baal (WmC), Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:13 (one month ago) link

have any of yall listened to the 50th Anniversary Editions of Working Man's Dead, American Beauty? What did you think?

dow, Saturday, 20 June 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

The 50th thing just adds a live show from what I’ve heard. Or were the tracks remastered ?

calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:00 (one month ago) link

Ya told me goodbye....how was I to know...you didn’t mean goodbye

calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:02 (one month ago) link

They haven't announced the American Beauty one yet. Maybe in the fall? The WD reissue (out next month) just has a from '71, and the album itself may have been remastered: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/grateful-dead-workingmans-dead-50th-anniversary/

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:08 (one month ago) link

"Has a show from '71"

No studio stuff, although some has issued in the past, like the somewhat disappointing original of "Mason's Children" on So Many Roads(?).

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:11 (one month ago) link

Yeah, So Many Roads. Not so much disappointing as just tentative and reserved, doesn't slap like the live version on the prior expanded WD CD.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:23 (one month ago) link

...and the studio stuff is actually getting its own digital release. Story within: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/grateful-dead-workingmans-dead-reissue-angels-share-1011483/

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:19 (one month ago) link

tl;dr: It's all rehearsal and in-progress versions of stuff already on the album, all part of a vault score of similar material from some (but not all) of the other studio albums. Also, a deluxe American Beauty is in the pipeline, but whatever included studio extras are of a lower quality than this batch.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:23 (one month ago) link

Workingdudes is their best studio album imho. Love dire wolf

calstars, Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:32 (one month ago) link

“tl” is right... that’s a long f’in article

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:52 (one month ago) link

^^The drums & space sections were pretty unnecessary.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:58 (one month ago) link

lol

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:00 (one month ago) link

I listened to In The Dark recently and a enjoyed it quite a bit

brimstead, Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:51 (one month ago) link

For this Fourth, I'm doing what I intended last tyme: listen to 50th Anniversary Editions on YouTube---although skipped the debut and went to Anthem, one I'd never heard at all, unlike the debut.Liked the '71 remix better overall, seemed like the stereo imaging was more centered, deeper focus, something, on sub-audiophile headphones. "Alligator" maybe fave in both mixes. May skip the bonus (show) disc (familiar set list, incl. several Anthem titles, also I caught some of the use of live in studio), and go on to the one I can't spell. I'm gonna come back this one fer shure.

dow, Saturday, 4 July 2020 22:32 (one month ago) link

Red & white, blue suede shoes. I’m Uncle Sam, how do you do?

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Sunday, 5 July 2020 00:25 (one month ago) link

Of course knww most of the songs on Aoxomoxoa from show tapes, but omg original context: at first this version of "St. Stephen" seemed too quaint, like an early Van Dyke Parks outtake w more guitar--but fairly soon, sonic shrooms started to tilt me down their gullet---will have to come back to it---advantage of music to other drugs: sometimes you can dream the same dream twice and better---may never get to '7i redo, as described by wiki

...Garcia and Lesh went back in the studio in 1971 to remix the album, removing many parts present on the original release, including a choir singing on "Mountains of the Moon", many difficult-to-identify sounds on "What's Become of the Baby", and an a cappella ending for "Doin' that Rag," dropped for an earlier fadeout. The remix also uses different vocal takes on some songs, most noticeably "Dupree's Diamond Blues." The result, with the same catalog number (WS1790) and perhaps brighter sound, but with much of the original's experimental character removed...nooooo

dow, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:53 (one month ago) link

But yes, as with 50th Anniversary Anthem of the Sun, good have orginals and revisions at hand if you want 'em.

dow, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:56 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 03:20 (two days ago) link

Country funk for the win

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:07 (two days ago) link

Oh yeah 50th anniversary had both versions of the lps they rejigged in the early 70s on the same disc and s live set on a 2nd.
But that is only the 2nd and 3rd lps.
So are you getting less playing time on everything after.
& did they add a live set to Live Dead

Stevolende, Friday, 7 August 2020 06:58 (two days ago) link

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

― brimstead, Friday, August 7, 2020 4:20 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

real talk

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 8 August 2020 07:19 (yesterday) link

R.I.P. Jerry, 25 years today

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Sunday, 9 August 2020 20:00 (one hour ago) link

I remember where I was

calstars, Sunday, 9 August 2020 20:23 (forty-seven minutes ago) link

I was in Juneau, AK and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Called my dad and he asked, “did you hear the news?”

tobo73, Sunday, 9 August 2020 20:35 (thirty-six minutes ago) link


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