worst Nicki Minaj song on the radio right now

i'm torn re the beat tho -- when it flourishes it is jarring & not in a good way -- they should've stayed as minimal as possible imo -- the backing vocals are awesome

His faggot baiting is more obnoxious than ever, but he's just as good at being obnoxious as he was in 2000, if that makes sense; and paired with Minaj it's a real competition. They foil each other perfectly. In addition, Minaj's "playing a character" shows up how poorly the difference between Em and Slim Shady looks like in 2010.

fwiw earl on "earl" > earl on anything else this year also > anyone else on anything else this year

between the two they don't merely fag bait -- they bait everyone. Equal opportunity malice.

his verse is way more sexist than it is homophobic, aside from the use of the word "faggot"

Yeah, they're cruel to everyone, and pretty good at it.

"i ain't into s&m / but my whip off the chain" is a v dope line imo

that one was a little too obvious imo but I liked pretzel for a brain/razor for a head/pretzel for a brain

but he also says he's gonna stick a falcon wing up a fly ass so it's a zero sum verse in the end

errr pencil for a frame

Roman's Revenge would have made my Pazz and Jop were it a single in 2010.

it was released as a standalone thing on halloween. are we really still stuck on old-skool definitions of "single"?

i love bits of eminem's verses - beginning and end of the first one especially, and how he reworks the chorus ("make that face, go on, scrunch it up at me/show me the target so i can LUNGE AND ATTACK IT"), but between that he kind of falls off the beat and tries to get too many words in. his second verse is ehhhh, though i do like how the faggot line is accompanied by the one moment of sonic pretty girlishness.

every moment nicki's on the mic is astonishing to hear and to rap along to, she sounds unhinged, and the beat is insane. top 4 moments:

1. the outraged vibrato on "i see them dusty-ass FILAAAS, LEVIIIIS, raggedy-ass HOLES IN YOUR KNEE-HIIIIGHS" that reminds me of missy's guest spot on trina's "rewind that back"
2. "i'm a BAD BITCH - i'm a CUNT" - what other rapper has even gone there with the c word
3. "OVERSEAS / CHURCH / VATICAN" - beyond the grocery bag and off the deep end
4. "M-M-M-M-MANNING ELI" - hearing his names in the right order feels completely wrong now

3. "OVERSEAS / CHURCH / VATICAN" - beyond the grocery bag and off the deep end

^^ i actually agree w/ this -- same thing with "hang it up... flat screen... plasma"

i realized that my original problem w/ grocery bagging was not how lame the punchlines were or how the structure highlighted them, but just that it was such a boring & monotonous way to rap, just very assembly line -- the triple bagging sort of subverts that tho in a way that's kinda free form

also her grocery bagging in the second verse doesn't even consist of punchlines, it's literally just random words hurled at the beat, but i love how it actually ends up making a fragmented kind of sense where you get to fill in the bits in between, and that it really conveys a sense of menace - the lunatic asylum of mumbling/cackling connects to the mass hysteria of scared/shook/panicking that leads into the need to pray combined w/all the sinister connotations of vatican...

"hey nicki hey nicki - " - ASTHMA

"hardest diss track in forever" is pretty ridic

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the thing about the song is that it's a great diss track in an unconventional way. obv there are only a few lines shot directly at kim and certainly no "takeover" style point-by-point breakdown (which would be unnecessary anyway), but it's still a very aggressive & confrontational track. like, just the general theme of the track & the medieval via bowser's castle flourishes during the chorus, right down to 'rah rah/ like a dungeon dragon' create just a very sinister & foreboding atmosphere that, in combination w/ the fact that we KNOW that it's about kim, elevate nicki's threats & taunts -- and she does say she'll put a hit out on her!

damn, i just realized the odd (intentional?) coincidence of eminem being on the song where nicki goes at kim

ha! i would guess unintentional. has eminem ever done a song with lil kim?

i like "moment 4 life" a lot, tho i wish the chorus was more interesting & less repetitive droning

yeah diss tracks are pretty lame nowadays, listened to death certificate and goddamn "no vaseline" wow how hateful, kinda blew me away

first time i heard "Moment 4 Life" on the radio i only heard the Drake verse and thought it was his song, and i was like who the fuck is singing this hook? maybe Chrisette Michele on a really really bad day?

i really like nicki's first verse in "moment 4 life" but the chorus starts to sink it and drake's verse finishes it off

what's the reference in the "my n*ggas get buck... OVERBITE"

does young buck have an overbite or something

buck teeth

where was your jukebox review of that anyway j0rdan >:(

i totally hadn't realized that jukebox had started back up for 2011 -- i'll look at the list

i would've given RR a 9

i can't fuck w/ "did it on em"

yeah me neither :(

Is there a thread I can't find where people discuss "Did It On 'Em"? Because maaaaaaaaan

If you could turn back time... CHER
Used to be here, now you're gone... NAIR

also v. disappointed the string of F1 rhymes doesn't go for "You need some help... F1"

"did it on em" is incredible, sometimes you just have to give in to the grocery bag. U AIN'T MY SON U MY MUHFUKKIN STEPSON

right now i kind of think "super bass" might be the most perfect bubblegum rap pop song - really no wonder taylor swift and selena gomez were so taken by that one particularly

italics don't make a line hot

How is the stepson line a grocerybag line lex?

I really like the "used to be here/hair, now you're gone... NAIR" line

anyway 'bedrock' is secretly a great song

yeah, no

i'm gudda gudda

i can't tell if "did it on em" is worse on the radio because 40% of the words are bleeped out, or is better on the radio because 40% of the words are bleeped out

altho i will give it to nicki, pissing on your children would be pretty disrespectful

the beat seems so spare, and not in a good 'ether' kind of way either

'bedrock' is like a fun summer version of 'black and yellow'

you're intentionally not trying to make sense right

i'm gudda gudda

"Did It On Em" is a totally mediocre mixtape song but compared to most of Nicki's other hits (and "Roman's Revenge" if j0rdan is still pretending that's a hit) it's kinda dope.

"Bed Rock" is a landmark piece of shit but it 'works' on some level that most stupid Young Money songs don't

i was hearing "roman's revenge" a ton on the radio but then "moment 4 life" came along & steam rolled it -- i wasn't pretending about anything

some solid anecdata itt

oh ok i never heard it on the radio once, i just thought it was funny when you talked about how it's totally going to place on pazz & jop next year

there've been too many times in the past few months where i've heard back to back young money songs on the radio

like "moment 4 life" -> "aston martin music" should not be allowed (even tho M4L has my favorite drake verse)

the worst is when i'm flipping between the 3 balt/d.c. rap stations and sometimes i'll hear Young Money on all 3 (or just Nicki on all 3, or all Drake, or all Trey Songz, or all Chris Brown). that kind of thing happens frighteningly often.

How is the stepson line a grocerybag line lex?

oh it's not! i was quoting it separately to my comment about grocery bagging.

Haha I was trying to work out what "You ain't my son you my muhhfucking #stepson" might mean.