Xiu Xiu - What The Christ?

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Knife Play one of the best albums of the year thus far - huh? I honestly can't remember the last time I've been so overwhelmingly compelled to make a record stop. Picture a lunge across the living room, in slow-motion "noooooooooo oooooooooo oooo oo oo ooo o o o" stylee, just so that I could get to the volume knob one second earlier.

So, the obvious question is posed to those who like the record: what do you like about it, and what are the rest of us so obv. missing?

Mark, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

To my ears, it's a life-affirming album. In the sense that life is shit, and this pretty much affirms it. New answers for the unenlightened (ie. me)...

Mark, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Apparently they're from Oakland (like myself), but exist in entirely different scene. Don't they blow on marimbas or beat on accordions or something?

Andy, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It is my favorite album so far this year, or close. I just realized I have no idea why. I'll be back in 45 minutes, I guess.

Keiko, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm okay with Xiu Xiu. Not blown away. I have been blown away by Hella though, which is also on 4RG (or whatever that label is called). Amazing noise rock.

Yancey, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

xiu xiu's great. ex-members of ten in the swear jar.

what's great about xiu xiu is that it's not shrouded in the same shit everyone else is wearing. they have a pretty distinctly original sound in my ears. (even though they have influences.)

revival sucks. i was keen on it for a bit and i'm not sure i can take it anymore... m.

msp, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them live, and also heard the album. The guy sings in an overly strained way. Yikes!

http://www.tapefuzz.com/reviews/x/xiuxiu-knifeplay.shtml

Manny Parsons, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i, too, was non-plussed hearing the record.

the live show is much more engaging.

gygax! (i forgot my blog password), Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

this is also my favorite album of the year so far. the things i like: it is the perfect mix of electronics and acoustic instruments. it has some surprising and perfect breaks (like the ripped up piano falling down the stairs riff and the 'breaking into children's hospitals' dialogue.) it is ambiently put together - to vaguely define what i mean by 'ambiently' is that each song has a feel in the way it was recorded and its instrumentation (see: beat happening's yellow record or go go go airheart 'love my life hate my friends'). this ambientness appeals to the diy asthetic of 'personal' music which is utterly appropriate with the strong emotional aspect of most songs. and finally, the songwriting is good. despite and complex field of sounds and a seemingly random performance, each piece is essentially in pop form and contains at least one really good line/catchy part. plus this record also has amazing packaging (again appeals to diy in all of us)

with regards to 5 rue Christie's Hella record: i almost shit my pants during that 2 bar disco break in track 3 or 4. totally golden

ddd, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

That Xiu Xiu had that effect on you – drawing you up out of your chair, hurling you across the room – is testament enough to what they’ve got. Sure, you could say “but I don’t -like- them, it’s not that I was frightened by them,” but you’ve got to admit that they’ve got a strange, raw power. I've heard someone describe it as making them feel ill-at-ease, like watching a car wreck for enjoyment. One of the virtues of “Knife Play” is that many people don’t know what to make of it on first listen. It’s a mesh of sound and rhythm, hinting at many genres but not quite resolvable as such.

To those reading who are unfamiliar with Xiu Xiu, they’re a quartet out of California who play a bizarre mix of synth-pop, no wave, goth, noise, what-have-you. Their debut from this year, “Knife Play,” blends disparate sounds: New Order-style drums that will pad for a second then cut out, followed by crunchy bass blasts or the clatter of gongs or distorted guitar feedback, all kinds of sounds that roil together. Obviously it’s very angsty rock music, and the singer Jamie will coo softly and then suddenly unleash a yell or a scream, while all the while playing pump organ or jumping up and down at his synth bank. In case the enthusiasm in my writing isn’t evident, my short answer to the question is that I like Xiu Xiu because their music is very exciting.

I managed to catch them live at this new venue in Baltimore last Sunday. Despite being stuffed into a living-room-sized stage in this former brownstone, despite being heckled by this lanky guy who kept wandering up with his white dog and playing with the band’s instruments, and despite these rocker dudes deciding impromptu to reform for one last set as ‘Hospital Wolf’ before the band began to play, Xiu Xiu are amazing live as well. They’re especially apt at recreating the sounds of their album live, with a whole row of hanging cutlery and cookware to beat upon, drum machines thumping violently, etc. They even pulled out this beaker contraption at one point, and with a squeeze of the handle this tube thing lying inside began rattling around, casting its echoes up into the microphone overhead and adding an eerie clatter to the song they were playing.

But to answer the question more fully, I appreciate music that delves beyond sadness and sorrow and tries to mine the depths of misery for all to hear. Usually that type of art functions cathartically for those performing and receiving, and at the heart of Xiu Xiu’s sound collage are a number of vignettes, all of people who are hurt, damaged, sometimes suicidal. I think it’s foolish to assume that some emotions are more worthy of exploration in ‘art’ then others, and I’m loving on Xiu Xiu right now because they employ radically different sonic textures and songwriting approaches without seeming to sacrifice ANY narrative development or basic songwriting ability. They still very much strike me as a rock band, and the way they twist pop song structures is enjoyable to hear. It’s cliché, but they seem to be doing something that no other band is doing right now, and as a means to an end rather than the ‘corruption’ means as end. They tell good stories.

Dare, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Damn, Dare! ILM comes back and you're right in the swing. :-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'd written it right before the crash, actually, and in frustration saved it in hopes that my effort wouldn't be entirely futile. I was afraid ILM would be down forever.

Dare, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Most cool. Nah, just keep track on the new host threads or join 12 ft. lizards directly, we shan't abandon ya.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

That Xiu Xiu had that effect on you – drawing you up out of your chair, hurling you across the room – is testament enough to what they’ve got.

A fallacious argument! Discomfort does not explicitly denote substance, intangible or otherwise.

Sure, you could say “but I don’t -like- them, it’s not that I was frightened by them,” but you’ve got to admit that they’ve got a strange, raw power. I've heard someone describe it as making them feel ill-at-ease, like watching a car wreck for enjoyment. One of the virtues of “Knife Play” is that many people don’t know what to make of it on first listen. It’s a mesh of sound and rhythm, hinting at many genres but not quite resolvable as such.

There are plenty of records that frighten or stir unsavoury things in me in such a way that I deem them to be valuable - Black Heart Procession's 2 and BOC's Music Has The Right To Children spring immediately to mind. I agree with your assessment of 'Knife Play' as an uncommonly disarming record but I don't think it follows that this quality implicitly makes it good.

To be honest, my problem with it has everything to do with Jamie's vocals, which, try as I might, I find absolutely unlistenable. I suppose the rest of it - namely the arrangements and production - are quite good. I suspect I'd be digging on this way more if it were an instrumental alb, though...

Mark, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Let me slightly refine the question, then. Much like my silly aversion to, say, trepanning, part of my estrangement from 'Knife Play' has to do with the fact that I could never imagine there being a time where I'd actively want to sit down and put myself through it. I simply can't see the value of listening to such a painful, wringing record.

Perhaps it'd be better for people who like to record to detail when/how/under what circumstances they listen to it rather than why they like it.

Mark, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the thing is that i don't find it to be painful. it has many beautiful parts, most notably parts when everything kicks together (i suppose the equivalent of a 'rockin out' part) i find it sad at times but not as an entire record. weirdly enough i'm totally into the part "hate my bodft, hate the ;gjgs" whatever he says. i find it to be an awesome breakout and quite pleasant too - despite lyrics (i'm sure you can tell i don't really listen to them since i can't even quote them)

ddd, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

''despite lyrics (i'm sure you can tell i don't really listen to them since i can't even quote them)''

lyrics aren't that important. Anyway, this sounds interesting so i might check it out.

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I listen to it when opening my wrists, naturally. It has a short shelf-life ..

Dare, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...
this album is friggin' amazing.

that is all.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 07:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i would rather fill my pants with boiling oil than ever hear xiu xiu again

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 07:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i find that hard to believe.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 07:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't wear baggy pants and you'll be fine.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 07:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

What is Dave Matthews listening to?
Matthews tells us about Xiu Xiu, the experimental indie project of Californian singer-songwriter Jamie Stewart, who, Matthews says, Tim Reynolds turned him on to. “There’s something about it where you can’t put it down,” he says. “It’s like crazy person music, but it’s really slammin’ and it’s really beautiful. He’s a little bit precious maybe — and ‘a little bit’ may be understating it — but there’s something about it that I go back and I listen to it again, and I like it.”

jaymc, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Xiu Xiu - Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad And Hated

kenan, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I almost posted this on the DMB thread, actually.

jaymc, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hey, DMB has a point - there's nothing worse than "crazy person music"... Give me some nice, well-adjusted 9-5 office job music. That's rock and roll.

Rombald, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I didn't know there was another plain-ol' Mark posting in those days.

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

They're covering Nina Simone!

(blugh)

This led to objections.

https://twitter.com/XiuXiuforLife/status/381120328027488256

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 September 2013 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

basically this dude is the worst

You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Monday, 23 September 2013 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

stay classy dude:

hi
fuck you. you do not know FUCKING ANYTHING go rape your mailman you asshole

your mother hates your guts and wishes that you and your hog fed sister was dead. i hope that the new POPE fucks your heart out

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2013 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/ZY30h2W.png

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 23 September 2013 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

^just in case some of it were to disappear

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 23 September 2013 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

fuck that guy ('brad')

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 23 September 2013 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

two dorks take on xiu xiu

Spectrum, Monday, 23 September 2013 17:04 (five years ago) Permalink

fuck that guy ('brad')

Who are you? Jamie Stewart?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

team xiu xiu

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

what a terrible team to be on

You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

eh i will rep for a couple of dudes early albums, but his "shocking" "boundary pushing" thing is so ridiculous at this point

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

they are all dicks

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

who cares

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, guess it's one of those twitter beefs where you just have to walk away

Spectrum, Monday, 23 September 2013 17:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Ten In The Swear Jar had a few cool songs. Xiu Xiu has...zero. He should've quit while he was ahead.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

who cares

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, September 23, 2013 5:30 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think there should just be an automatic script to post this as the first response in every single ilx thread ever, with n/a's signature line intact

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

good idea

i like xiu xiu

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

don't actually care about the dumb twitter beef, but xiu xiu's production is so slept on. all the sampling sources, sound design, & everything are so detailed and creative, too bad it apparently gets overshadowed by his aesthetic. plenty of good songs too.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

also he's a nice dude. i went to see a (free) show where they didn't play because some essential piece of gear broke, and he gave me & my gf a bunch of free vinyl.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:47 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKWckRuz-gk

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i like xiu xiu, too. i remember in college i wrote jamie an email and he wrote a nice email back. seemed like a cool guy.

Spectrum, Monday, 23 September 2013 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

i love the part at 8:15, creating a chord out of a kick drum via EQ only, i think about that all the time.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I like xiu xiu and I like "I hope the new POPE fucks your heart out"

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 23 September 2013 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

yes... what?

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 August 2017 19:22 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Lots of news in their latest email. They really buried the lede by belatedly announcing that the ZZ Top/Bottom cover 7" is "out now" (been out for over a month), but some much more pertinent news, both good and bad, in there:

-new Xiu Xiu album & world tour in early 2019
-new Jamie solo album (his first) out on Record Store Day & North American tour + handful of EU and Russia dates in April
-vinyl reissue of A Promise with bonus tracks. digital version includes drunk commentary from Jamie
-Shayna Dunkelman, who played with Jamie at the two shows I saw last year, has been fired. From the email: "Sadly, we had to let Shayna Dunkelman go from Xiu Xiu. Despite the bantying about of numerous bizarre and vile speculations (oh wretched internet) the true reasons, while frustrating and extremely infuriating to us, are neither salacious nor titillating."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

wtf is a "Jamie solo album" lol

is SD the one that was in the "Sharp Dressed Man" AV Club video?

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:03 (one year ago) Permalink

I have been revisiting this band over the past week and they're even better than I thought they were the first time around (and I already thought they were the best band)

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Too bad about Shayna :(

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah too bad, she's great. Really enjoyed her Trap Set interview.

is SD the one that was in the "Sharp Dressed Man" AV Club video?

yes

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:12 (one year ago) Permalink

What about that album that was literally Jamie on solo guitar and vocals playing "I'll Fly Away" etc, was that called Xiu Xiu?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

thanks jordan, didn't feel like doing xiu xiu related google image searches at work

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

ha Simon I had the same thought. obviously a technicality, as all Xiu Xiu albums have featured other players. Very excited for his solo tour, really hope he comes back here, first time I saw Xiu Xiu was in 2012 and it was just Jamie. One of the most powerful & immense sets I've ever seen. Both shows I saw last year w/ Jamie & Shayna were great, despite a really weak turnout the second time. circa1916 was there and said Jamie was completely despondent after the show, just sitting on a crate in the back with his head in his hands. but J & S had great chemistry, and apparently Shayna was fired the day after the Chicago Twin Peaks show, which was just a week or two ago. Did some digging but have no idea why she was let go.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

"digital version includes drunk commentary from Jami"

:D

Good news about the new albums, but Shayna leaving is sad :(

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

he's been doing the drunk commentaries for a while now, has anyone actually listened to any of them?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I haven't, it's new to me. Is it on reissues or something? I've got all the original stuff so am not inclined to buy any reissue tbh

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

just on the digital versions on their bandcamp. that would be a pretty bizarre and... impractical thing to press on vinyl ha! although that would be a trip

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Honestly your summary of the newsletter was the first I heard of it! Ash did it on 1977, barfing and drunk talk on vinyl to end the album.

It doesn't sound very appealing, drunk commentary, tbh.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:41 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I agree, I can only imagine it compounding the crushing abyssal sadness & depression of most Xiu Xiu music. although I would listen to drunk commentary for The Air Force, that's the only record they've made I consider a stone cold classic top to bottom.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:44 (one year ago) Permalink

A Promise, Fabulous Muscles, Knife Play all stone cold classic to me. Still wouldn't go near a drunk commentary by mister Stewart on any one of those tbf

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:16 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

what wtf happened with shayna? that was stunningly weird and unprofessional and then I forgot all about it. Just say she isn't there anymore, don't say you fired her and then say "oh it's not that salacious". drama queens.

I've only seen xiu xiu twice, once was many years ago, and the last time was the twin peaks show, which she was at, and she seemed pretty integral to that. too bad.

akm, Saturday, 3 February 2018 05:06 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah they were great together both times i saw them in 2017. it was just jamie & shayna. now that i remember it, jamie mentioned at one of those shows that they last time they played here 'it was with the worst ever xiu xiu lineup, sorry' (circa 2011, jamie & two dudes i don't remember). i mean i remember right after i became obsessed with the air force, caralee mcelroy left the band under similar vaguely acrimonious circumstances, her quiting/firing entirely unexplained.

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 05:46 (one year ago) Permalink

jamie doesn't seem like someone who's a joy to work with frankly

akm, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

ha ha ha to say the least

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:12 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Jamie Stewart -
An Aggressive, Chain Smoking Alcoholic
Record Store Day 2018
Pinyon Records
First solo record and
horror show https://t.co/HZvqkCHyzh pic.twitter.com/tj4kZQ4ub0

— Xiu Xiu (@XiuXiuforLife) March 6, 2018

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:31 (one year ago) Permalink

that's a link to a new interview btw

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Good title.

circa1916, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:52 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I assumed that his solo modular synth record would be either noise or just forgettable, but this is really engaging: https://www.tinymixtapes.com/chocolate-grinder/premiere-jamie-stewart-xiu-xiu-inconsistent-and-peculiar-volume

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 17:42 (one year ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I like the song with Mitski a lot. I could go for an album of that.

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 April 2018 12:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

his recent noise album An Aggressive, Chain Smoking Alcoholic released under Jamie Stewart is v. good

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Sunday, 20 May 2018 17:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

has anyone been keeping up with the "Drugs" series Jamie is doing? he's up to volume 6 now. he keeps saying that Angela hates it but I can't tell if that's a bit or not

flappy bird, Friday, 12 October 2018 04:16 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkK6GT4pkbU

new album girl with basket of fruit out in feb

devvvine, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:31 (four months ago) Permalink

Fuck yes

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:16 (four months ago) Permalink

love the drums :)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:16 (four months ago) Permalink

Awesome

flappy bird, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:44 (four months ago) Permalink

goddammit i already have a velvet robe

flappy bird, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:55 (four months ago) Permalink

omg where did you find that

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:00 (four months ago) Permalink

perfect couples gift for winter ty

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:44 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

bumped another thread but since there's a thousand Xiu Xiu threads here thought I would share again that this new record is REALLY out there, even for them. in terms of abrasiveness / non-songy / insane it's second only to Angel Guts as the most crazy proper Xiu Xiu album.

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah I hear you. It’s a shame that nobody seems to care about this guy anymore, consistently one of the most interesting artists working imo.

circa1916, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:36 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah it's such a drag, especially considering how prolific he is. he had that Chain Smoking Alcoholic solo album last year and like 6 of those Drugs albums. it is strange that people aren't interested anymore, I feel like the running themes of his work (abuse, sexual violence, depression, suicide, addiction, hopelessness) are even more relevant today than they were in the 00s.

Have you heard the new one? What do you make of it, if you have?

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I just heard the Pumpkin Attack song on Spotify and really liked it. Haven’t heard the whole new album yet, looking forward to it.

His Chain Smoking Alcoholic noise album was really good and of course slept on.

circa1916, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:54 (two months ago) Permalink

ironically the song on the flexi disc that came with the LP is a pretty straightforward song in comparison

flappy bird, Monday, 4 February 2019 02:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I have a reverse opinion, that he’s an amazing noise artist with a wider audience than his genre/music necessarily deserves, genre/economy-wise (tho all his concerts should always be vastly sold out)

Personally I preferred the Depeche Mode-via-avant garde descendent of the first two albums to anything that came after, until Red Guts and this new one, which reinvent the aesthetic of noise but with idk hard to describe but aggressively hi-fi production choices, which is neither better or worse, it just is, but it’s extremely relistenable— I cant judge Girl/Fruit or Red Guts on the same metric as Knife Play or A Promise

But I don’t know anybody who writes well about this band

fgti's romance (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 February 2019 03:56 (two months ago) Permalink

new one sounding really good and super abrasive and fun

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 4 February 2019 04:30 (two months ago) Permalink

otm about it being extremely relistenable, it's definitely his most beguiling record. I haven't read along with the lyrics yet

flappy bird, Monday, 4 February 2019 04:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I definitely think Xiu Xiu will always be wrongly-rated because there is far more going on here than people realize (including myself). I don't think his songs are about (abuse, sexual violence, depression, suicide, addiction, hopelessness) but are pretty much, across the board, about mental garble, about the dissociative response one experiences when faced with the difficult-to-bear. He's not singing about war itself, he's singing about the feeling of reading about the war, watching TV about the war. I don't find his music comforting because he's singing anything meaningful about anything so much as I deeply identify on a personal level with the mind-spewing-information-as-a-result-of-next-to-nothing feeling that his songs seem to attempt to capture

froggles! (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 February 2019 11:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Pumpkin Attack sounds like industrial techno. Is this his dance music record?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 February 2019 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

xp maybe The Air Force is an outlier but that record deals with that stuff pretty directly - songs like Vulture Piano, PJ in the Streets, Buzz Saw, Save Me Save Me - but broadly I agree, something like Support Our Troops or I Luv Abortion, that's exactly it - unfiltered live wire trauma garble.

flappy bird, Monday, 4 February 2019 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I definitely think Xiu Xiu will always be wrongly-rated because there is far more going on here than people realize (including myself). I don't think his songs are about (abuse, sexual violence, depression, suicide, addiction, hopelessness) but are pretty much, across the board, about mental garble, about the dissociative response one experiences when faced with the difficult-to-bear. He's not singing about war itself, he's singing about the feeling of reading about the war, watching TV about the war. I don't find his music comforting because he's singing anything meaningful about anything so much as I deeply identify on a personal level with the mind-spewing-information-as-a-result-of-next-to-nothing feeling that his songs seem to attempt to capture

very good post imo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 4 February 2019 18:19 (two months ago) Permalink

ok this might be the best thing he's ever done

flappy bird, Saturday, 9 February 2019 02:56 (two months ago) Permalink

ok this might be the best thing he's ever done

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