TURN THIS MUTHA OUT! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Results Thread

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one of those albums that nourished my deep skepticism towards critics. i bought it because many critics said it was a classic. and then it was totally disappointing. they seem to have used up their energy in destroying hotel room furniture instead of making powerful rock'n' roll music.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:16 (ten years ago) link

the who is one of those bands that i feel like didn't translate as well to subsequent generations (lol) as much as other bands at their star level.

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:18 (ten years ago) link

So far there's been no funk or soul at all, and only one jazz album. I hope there's plenty of that stuff (+ Brazilian music) yet to come, otherwise this poll is gonna be a disappointment to me. I thought this being the "alternative" 70s poll would mean it's less rock-centric than the OG poll, but it doesn't look like that yet.

Tuomas, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:22 (ten years ago) link

81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]

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After years of hearing about it, I've only just heard the Comus 1st album! Why do people call it folk? Because it's acoustic? It's much more of a prog thing. I'm reminded of Family (mostly the vocals) and even Jethro Tull! Also, Comus fans should check out the Incredible String Band's "Pictures in a Mirror", which seems to me to be coming from a similar(ly) (bizarre) place.

― Tom D., Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:58 AM (2 years ago)

I don't think i've ever really run across band that sounds quite like Comus. They're sort of in a league of their own.

― dialecticbricks (dialecticbricks), Thursday, July 1, 2004 2:22 AM (5 years ago)

Comus strikes me as a little bit cornball. "The Herald" is my favorite thing on the album, I think.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, March 6, 2005 5:44 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:25 (ten years ago) link

I'd never even heard of this before the nominations process. Will investigate.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:25 (ten years ago) link

Totally unknown to me too.

Tuomas, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:26 (ten years ago) link

So far there's been no funk or soul at all

Chic doesn't fall squarely in either category, I guess.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:27 (ten years ago) link

Blankin. 'Incredible String Band' comment makes me think this isn't fitting your criteria Tuomas.

moron oil (Gukbe), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:27 (ten years ago) link

This is an amazing album and not much like any other British folk record. Very influential on current 93, nurse with wound, coil, all those guys.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:28 (ten years ago) link

So relieved Comus placed! One of my favorite albums ever.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:29 (ten years ago) link

I thought this being the "alternative" 70s poll would mean it's less rock-centric than the OG poll, but it doesn't look like that yet.

It's still a poll based on consensus, and the most broadly appealing records will always trump the more niche or genre-specific records every time. That said, the results gets less homogenic as we get further in.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:30 (ten years ago) link

I think the Comus album compares well to Family's "Music in a Dolls House" (esp. vocals-wise) except more manic and with Wicker Man cartoon paganism.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:30 (ten years ago) link

Current 93 covered "Diana" from it.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:31 (ten years ago) link

People expecting pleasant jingly jangly brit folk rock will be VERY surprised - seek it out everyone!

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:31 (ten years ago) link

The cover sort of gives away the fact it won't be pleasant and jingly jangly.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Comus! Awesome!

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:32 (ten years ago) link

20 down, 80 more to go:

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:33 (ten years ago) link

Opeth took an album name from a lyric on it – "My Arms Your Hearse."

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:33 (ten years ago) link

xp

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:33 (ten years ago) link

Agree with Tom D's quote that it's not really folk, more a kind of dark, twisted acoustic prog really. I love the mixture of airy beauty and sheer bloody malice on this record.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:34 (ten years ago) link

I tried getting into Incredible String Band bcz people said they sounded like Comus but not nearly enough for my tastes.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:34 (ten years ago) link

I hope the funk albums didn't get pushed out of the top 100 with the last couple of ballots Will be gutted if any of them are 110-101

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:35 (ten years ago) link

Also agree w/Tom D – I have never heard a folk album that had near as cool of basslines as "First Utterance" does.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:35 (ten years ago) link

Cool Comus coming so (relatively) high - makes me think there will be further pleasant surprises

sonofstan, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:36 (ten years ago) link

I think I am the only person in the universe that thinks "To Keep From Crying," their second album, is really any good.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:36 (ten years ago) link

most broadly appealing records will always trump the more niche or genre-specific records every time.

But why would rock albums be less genre-specific and more broadly appealing? "Rock" is a genre just like "jazz" or "soul" are. I guess my view of things is pretty different from most ILXors, because I've never really listened to or cared for rock music, but I don't quite get why it's always the consensus choice, whereas equally broad genres like jazz are thought as "niche".

Tuomas, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:37 (ten years ago) link

People just getting into Comus now are lucky as there's a 2-CD set that has all their songs on it for pretty cheap. (Pretty cheap = cheaper than buying extra-special edition vinyl to get "In the Lost Queen's Eyes" on bonus 12" + also somehow finding a copy of their OOP second album like someone I know)

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:39 (ten years ago) link

Tuomas I think you're asking a question that can't be satisfactorily or empircally answered.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:40 (ten years ago) link

empirically

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:40 (ten years ago) link

rock and pop are more easily accessible and widespread broadcast-wise than jazz and to some extent soul (certainly from the 70s at any rate). xposts

moron oil (Gukbe), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:41 (ten years ago) link

Jazz and soul and tropicalia have every bit as much worth as rock and pop music, but they'll always be damned to underappreciation because of radio and record company greed. More people grow up with rock and pop music because that's what's playing everywhere they go. For some people, familiarity breeds contempt, but for the rest it's comfort food. xxxp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:41 (ten years ago) link

Hooray for Comus!

I would have liked to vote for more funk and jazz, but didn't get time to check out some of the ones I thought were most likely to float my boat (anyone got any thoughts on the Cecil Taylor, for instance? I love the one album I have by him, but didn't know the one nominated). Also, so much kraut in the 70s meant so many records there was no way I could leave off my ballot. I tried the one-album-per-band thing, but couldn't stick to it.

emil.y, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:44 (ten years ago) link

i gave my three top spots to a band who won't place! if the proggers and krauters can moan i guess the jazz/soul/world music enthusiasts can too, difference being their darlings are gonna show up later ;)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:46 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure I was probably the only vote for a few of the jazz records on my ballot (hint: I also nominated them).

o. nate, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

I highly doubt most of my darlings are gonna show up. Curtis Mayfield probably will, Herbie and Alice Coltrane might, but I'm not certain about it anymore, and I'd be genuinely surprised if Donny Hathaway or Flora Purim or Baden Powell will land an album in the top 80.

Tuomas, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:53 (ten years ago) link

xxpost looking at these scores so far and doing a head count of other threads they might place, y'know.

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:54 (ten years ago) link

tuomas if u voted for love unlimited orchestra top 10 we might get some soul up in this piece

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:55 (ten years ago) link

I srsly loved voting for this poll bcz it was just some of god's best albums available here.

girl moves (Abbott), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:56 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, if nothing else, the nominations spread sheet gives me a guide to work with for the next 20 years of record shopping.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:58 (ten years ago) link

"Familiarity breeds contempt." That must be why aside from some Stevie Nicks jams, Fleetwood Mac makes me want to stab my head. Or whoever is responsible for my hearing it.

There's also Tropicália and other Brazilian albums, tons of African stuff, and a shit-ton of great reggae that won't make this list. But that's okay, as long as a couple things make it. What really confounds me is how many times people have said, "this album should be higher." Somehow there's still a failure to recognize the sheer massive amount of great music made in the 70s. The ZZ Top, Van Halen and Aerosmith albums make for some great party music. I have them and love them. But they might not make even my top 500 for the decade.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 January 2010 22:01 (ten years ago) link

"Familiarity breeds contempt." That must be why aside from some Stevie Nicks jams, Fleetwood Mac makes me want to stab my head. Or whoever is responsible for my hearing it.

I feel this way about The Beatles, tbh. Love Fleetwood Mac with all my heart, tho.

I also love this poll/thread. Thanks for putting it together. I especially like the notion that it's designed not to create some definitive list, but to raise awareness of some gems that haven't received due credit or attention.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 January 2010 22:11 (ten years ago) link

I think I am the only person in the universe that thinks "To Keep From Crying," their second album, is really any good

No you're not...... I've never found a copy of first Utterance, and only have it as a rip, whereas i have TKFC on vinyl and am terribly fond....

sonofstan, Monday, 4 January 2010 22:13 (ten years ago) link

I saw Flora Purim recently, Tuomas, and she was great - I don't know her albums but I did sling her a spare vote. Probably not enough to get her in the top 80 though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 4 January 2010 22:34 (ten years ago) link

I'm hoping people will post their ballots after the countdown finishes, as it'll be interesting to see some records people rate highly that didn't make the top 100. That's as much a recommendation to me as anything on the list.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Monday, 4 January 2010 22:45 (ten years ago) link

I actually cant wait to see 200-101.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 January 2010 22:50 (ten years ago) link

I would have voted for Purim's Everyday, Everynight because it's one of my favorite albums ever, but it's the only of hers I know and I forgot to nom it.

condaleeza spice (The Reverend), Monday, 4 January 2010 23:08 (ten years ago) link

To continue with RYM '70s rankings:

ZZ Top- Tres Hombres (#440)
Clube de Esquina (#54)
Chic- C'est Chic (Not ranked)
John Lennon- Imagine (#236)
Patti Smith- Horses (#121)
Van Halen (#212)
Fleetwood Mac (#731)

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (#22)
Blondie - Eat to the Beat (Not ranked)
Miles Davis - Agharta (#158)
Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (#979)
Neu! - Neu! 2 (Not ranked)
Tom Waits - Closing Time (#314)
Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (#179)
Hawkwind - Space Ritual (#141)
Aerosmith - Rocks (#546)
Tubeway Army - Replicas (#400)
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (#184)
The Who - Live at Leeds (#26)
Comus - First Utterance (#93)

President Keyes, Monday, 4 January 2010 23:21 (ten years ago) link

The Comus record seems to me part of the "blog canon," one of those Lps (like Judee Sill's Heartfood or Flower Travellin' Band's Satori) that had a low profile or was unavailable until people started sharing it on MP3 blogs.

President Keyes, Monday, 4 January 2010 23:27 (ten years ago) link

Yep i'd definitely agree with that. Add on Bill Fay's Last Persecution which i'm hoping will place pretty high on this list.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 4 January 2010 23:29 (ten years ago) link

was about to curse for forgetting to vote for last persecution only to find out i actually did

mr bollock apple (electricsound), Monday, 4 January 2010 23:30 (ten years ago) link

twas my number one. love it soooooo much. can't believe i missed out on probably my only chance to see him play live just because i didn't go to the fecking wilco gig where he did a guestslot :-(

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 4 January 2010 23:33 (ten years ago) link

Comus were also on the NWW list, so they've had a bit of underground cachet since the late 70s.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 23:34 (ten years ago) link

I think all of those albums had a cult following, but since they were hard to come by they remained pretty much out of even most music obsessives' purview.

President Keyes, Monday, 4 January 2010 23:40 (ten years ago) link

I still can't wrap my head around RYM regulars/voters (other than the huge collective boner for metal).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:12 (ten years ago) link

you posting any more results tonight?

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:21 (ten years ago) link

I think i voted mainly funk jazz and krautrock/prog as i knew other stuff i liked would get votes but i didnt vote Neu 2 so im hopeful a lot of krautrock will get in now.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:34 (ten years ago) link

Yep, I love Neu but Neu 2 is definitely the least of the three imo. I would guess that the fact that it made it into the 90s here means that their first and 75 will make it in somewhere in the top 30, if not top ten.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:43 (ten years ago) link

Er, just remembered the first Neu wasn't an option. My revised prediction is that Neu 75 will do very well, then. :)

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:44 (ten years ago) link

it does have my 2nd fave track on it mind you but i had to exclude it to get other stuff in. Wish we could've listed 100 albums!
xp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:45 (ten years ago) link

Wish we could've listed 100 albums!

Speaking as the guy who had to count up ballots with 40 votes each, I would've committed suicide.

No more result posts tonight. I'll do at least ten more tomorrow, and maybe 20 more if I have the time.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 02:03 (ten years ago) link

nah, spread it out!

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Er, just remembered the first Neu wasn't an option. My revised prediction is that Neu 75 will do very well, then. :)

Indeed. Helps that Neu! '75 is their best album by a country mile, better than the canonical pick Neu! and the fun but scattershot Neu! 2, and most people know it in their hearts and voted for it. At least I'm hoping so.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 03:39 (ten years ago) link

80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]

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This is the Van disc I come back to the most right now. It's chock full of idiosyncratic Van greatness. Lyrics that almost but not quite make sense, check. Weird song titles, check. Strange literary obsessions, check. Beautiful tunes, check.

For some reason though I always think he hits higher notes on this album than on any other (check Linden Arden). Works for me.

― that's not my post, Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:34 PM (2 years ago)

Yeah, and the falsetto on "Who Was That Masked Man?" is fantastic!

― dell, Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:44 PM (2 years ago)

Wonder if Common One is as great as it seemed to me at the height of my VM obsession.

― J0hn D., Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:06 AM (2 years ago)

First, Common One holds up really well. Whatever made it seem weird on first listen makes it even weirder and better all these years later.

As for Van's vocal range, I've been trying to pinpoint where his voice left a step. I don't think he'd ever attempt the falsetto of "Masked Man" these days. Even on Wavelength he still has the ability to reach the higher notes and his voice still has that crisp snap in it. Common One has interesting textures, but it seems like with Beautiful Vision his voice is starting to get that "Head Cold" sound. (Listen to a later album like Days Like This and the whole thing sounds like he was sining with the flu...not bad, but not the guy you remember). Anyone else notice the tonal shifts in his voice?

― smurfherder, Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:57 PM (2 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 07:13 (ten years ago) link

79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]

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I ask once again (and I have before): WHY ISN'T THIS ONE OF THE GREAT CANONICAL ALBUMS OF THE 70S?

Seriously, there isn't a moment on this that isn't absolute GENIUS. Considering the likes of Elephant 6, Daftpunk, Air, and anyone else who attempts to make stellar multi-instrumetal psychedelic big big pop is ripping this album off, shouldn't [Jeff Lynne] deserve a bit more credit than the label of "sub-standard AOR Beatles-ripper"?

I love this album more than life could meantion.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, February 24, 2006 9:56 PM (3 years ago)

I don't know. I have a bias against ELO that I'm finding it very difficult to get over. It just seems like that every time they get a song going with something good, they waste no time in cheesing it up. For one thing, I hate all the string arrangements. They seem very gimmicky, not giving anything to the songs at all. Also, not sure I can actuallys tand Jeff Lynne's voice, especially when he starts trying to be the Bee Gees. The songs themselves are often not bad, but I guess the performances turn me off most of the time.

― Dominique (dleone), Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:21 AM (3 years ago)

I bought this album at Gary's Rexall Drug in Canby, Oregon, the day it came out, and had it memorized three days later. I just re-found it on vinyl for 99 cents and that is clearly the right way to listen to it. I still hear "Birmingham Blues" in my head when I see the Premiership results.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:29 PM (3 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 07:32 (ten years ago) link

Alright, there's a couple for the middle of the night (where I am). Back to bed!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 07:33 (ten years ago) link

After I said some not entirely nice things about Patti Smith yesterday, I discovered she's playing a small and historic venue in my town (Oxford, England) in March and was slightly tempted. I'm sure it will sell out easily to people who actually follow her work or at least are fonder of Horses, but weird timing.

Ah, ELO. I grew up listening to Out of the Blue, the last pop/rock record my parents bought (before that, two Beatles LPs and Dark Side of the Moon). Discovered in the 90s it was the least cool record ever, which happily let me pick it up for 20p from a record shop's "stuff we'll sneer at you for buying" bin. Seems to have had a considerable resurgence since then.

The picture on the front cover + the vocoders on "Mr Blue Sky" = when I was a kid, this record WAS the future to me, as fascinating and alien to my understanding as the covers to my mother's collection of sci-fi paperbacks.

I haven't heard it for years, but slung it a vote for old times' sake. But the overdone, tacked-on string arrangements Dominique singles out as bad are exactly what I like about it, that and the huge, shiny production which was like nothing I'd ever heard before. It sounded amazing on big speakers to a small kid who never heard pop but was really into space.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 11:28 (ten years ago) link

Damn, I guess that means A New World Record won't make it.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 11:55 (ten years ago) link

I have never been able to overcome my aversion to "Don't Bring Me Down" in order to delve into the reputed genius of Jeff Lynne.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 12:48 (ten years ago) link

Big fan of Veedon Fleece. Lush and romantic with great singing - by far the most satisfying Van that I've heard.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 13:33 (ten years ago) link

Though my first records were Pleasure Principle, Fear Of Music and Armed Forces, Out of the Blue was the first album I fell in love with. I was nine, after all! "And they sang, 'Wondrous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun and joy to everyone who rides along!'" I always figured the cheese factor for people was the unhinged joy in a lot of their songs. Not cool for insecure, self-conscious teenagers or young adult hipsters, but perfect entry point for kids.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 15:49 (ten years ago) link

This album is so, so good. Like Scott's quote says, "a perfect gateway drug," but sadly I've found it is also drug-like in that other Hawkwind albums are good, but just don't have that same kick.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, January 4, 2010 1:07 PM (Yesterday)

Enjoying the results so far. Space Ritual was my #22 -- but as much as I love it, I've been loath to dig farther into Hawkwind because it seems like nothing else could match up. There are a couple of other bands I act that way about -- a bad, illogical approach I know.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:11 (ten years ago) link

78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]

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I love the sense of fun and absurdity on this album. The band never sounded as loose and free as it does on this release. If Bruce was the new Dylan, it was the absurd Dylan of Million Dollar Bash and not the message-oriented, folkie Dylan of Masters of War. I wouldn't go so far as to say Jon Landau ruined him, but I do think he wiped away a lot of the fun by making him into the "future of rock n' roll." My favorite Bruce album by a mile.

― leavethecapital, Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:35 PM (11 months ago)

To my mind, The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle is a superb album. The songs (Lyrics), as noted, are interesting and of a time and place, and the music is different from what comes later, probably because two of the musicians, David Sancious and Vin Mad Dog Lopez, were replaced with people who had a much straighter rock approach, rather than a wilder, jazzier even, approach. It's also got a feeling fun about some of it (eg Cathy's Back), with all the band and friends joining in the chorus and playing instruments they might not usually play. What also happened after this was that he got "taken over" by the record company and his producer (Jon Landau if my memory serves me), and some of us would contend that Born to Run is a very "over produced" album. So to some of us, TWTITESS is the best Springsteen album.

― andyjack (andyjack), Monday, May 16, 2005 5:46 AM (4 years ago)

My favorite 70s LP is the Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle. Heavy Van Morrison influence on that one, but that sort of thing sounds better coming from an American I think. What a weird sound the band had on that album, very loose rhythm (I liked that drummer better than Weinburg), tuba, huge brass crescendos. The live version of "Incident on 57th Street" that was a b-side to one of the Born to Run singles was incredible, showed how interesting and melodic Springsteen was as a guitar player.

― Mark, Sunday, August 11, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:22 (ten years ago) link

awesome. i suppose this means Born To Run is still to come, right? ilx can't be THAT perverse, can it?

some dude, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:32 (ten years ago) link

Born To Run wasn't on the first poll? wow

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I'm not much of a Springsteen fan, and didn't vote for him here, but those first two albums are cap G Great.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:34 (ten years ago) link

didn't vote for him either, just that putting Born To Run on a non-canon list seems kinda odd

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:40 (ten years ago) link

Over time, I think this has become my favorite Springsteen album (for all the reasons mentioned above), followed closely by Born to Run. He can still write a hell of a song almost 40 years later, though.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:41 (ten years ago) link

xp Born to Run did NOT make the first list. ¯(°_o)/¯

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:42 (ten years ago) link

77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]

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I've been listening to "Teenage Confidential" from Shake Some Action on repeat for the past half hour. That song is perfect.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:05 PM (7 years ago)

I've always found "Shake Some Action" somewhat overrated, as I find most of their Edmunds-era stuff a bit not-all-that. But I sure love five-six of their Chris Wilson songs, "Yeah My Baby" and "First Plane Home" and "You Tore Me Down." It always struck me that "Shake Some" was one of those songs bruited as shoulda-been-a-hit that actually wasn't really all that much of a hit.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:00 PM (4 years ago)

I've never listened to the Flamin' Groovies because their name sucks. Am I wrong?

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:28 PM (4 years ago)

Yes.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:32 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:52 (ten years ago) link

awesome, didnt vote for it, it didnt make the cull but great to see

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:55 (ten years ago) link

If we were polling the top songs of the 70s, Shake Some Action would be right there near the top.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Likewise - pleased it's here, though it didn't make my list either.

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:56 (ten years ago) link

One I need to check out. Never heard anything by them.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:57 (ten years ago) link

Two distinct eras of the band to explore. The early albums are more roadhouse bluesy chooglin' rock, the latter albums (after Roy Loney left) are pristine '60s-inspired Brit Invasion melodic pop. I prefer the latter (of which this one is the first), but all their work is worth hearing.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:04 (ten years ago) link

76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]

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I brought home a Pere Ubu record (Datapanik) because of Robert Christgau's enigmatic review "Michael Stanley is Cleveland's answer to Pere Ubu." Didn't know what he meant, but thought it was strange enough to try a Pere Ubu record. Didn't take a shine to it right away.. (couldn't get past the voice at first.) Then, absolutely loved everything Pere Ubu did. Later, didn't care as much about Ubu. Now, care again, but not like I used to.

― Dave225, Thursday, May 2, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Pere Ubu was the mother of punk rock.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:53 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:24 (ten years ago) link

It will be interesting to see if the first two Pere Ubu albums make the list along with that compilation. They were both on my list.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:31 (ten years ago) link

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]
78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]
77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]
76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]

That's it so far. 25% of the list is accounted for. I have to run out and do a few things, but I'll be back with some more.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:47 (ten years ago) link

Some things Johnny F might have run out to do:

100. take back some videos
99. put in dry cleaning
98. shift at charity shop
97. buy bagels
96. showdown with thesis supervisor
95. go to gym
94. bus-spotting
93. parkour
92. feed ducks in park
91. traffic survey
90. form human chain
89. apply for Turkish passport
88. use public library for warmth
87. new bus pass
86. give blood
85. graffiti
84. kooky photography project
83. ride boxcars
82. meet with parole supervisor
81. buy pregnancy testing kit
80. lunch alone in Ethiopian restaurant
79. amateur astronomy
78. measure tide height
77. bet on UK general election
76. fly kite

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:05 (ten years ago) link

lol

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

12 US, 8 Britain, 2 Ireland (-ish: half of Lizzy by that stage, and i wouldn't like to answer for how Van considers himself), I Brazil, I Germany and 1 US/UK hybrid ('Mac)

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

A++, Ismael

swag the dog (The Reverend), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:23 (ten years ago) link

I'm enjoying seeing a lot of unfamiliar albums on the list. The Springsteen is the only one I voted for to place thus far. I got it and Born to Run a couple of months ago. They've both grown on me a bit, but The Wild, The Innocent, Etc. was the only one to make it onto my ballot.

o. nate, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:25 (ten years ago) link

93. parkour

lol, yes that's what it was!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:28 (ten years ago) link

Rolling Spotify playlist.
(Missing: John Lennon, Aerosmith Comus, Pere Ubu... and Track 1 from Neu 2, oddly enough.)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:28 (ten years ago) link

75. ABBA - Arrival (1976) [93 points, 8 votes]

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arrival itself. absolutely exquisite, and an enormous influence on many of my own songwriting attempts (many times i'd end up back at that melody, wondering how i got there.)

this was a big, big favourite of mine when i was very young. i'd have to get my dad to put it on because i couldn't reach the record player (and wasn't allowed to fuck with his records, either). actually: i think i borrowed it off him many years ago and never gave it back. whoops.

― grimly fiendish, Sunday, June 8, 2008 10:35 AM (1 year ago)

Just listened to this again and boy is it good, way more consistently excellent than I expected for such a "singles band." Like I said before, the competition is really thrown off by the singles - but I'm impressed to see that "When I Kissed The Teacher" beat "Knowing Me, Knowing You." Someone in the Popular comments box at some point wrote some really nice things about WIKTT but I can't remember where or who it was...

― Doctor Casino, Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:04 PM (1 year ago)

Abba: Classic.
The cult of ABBA: Dud.

― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:42 (ten years ago) link

Mikael Åkerfeldt of Opeth on WIKTT (from Decibel:

WHEN I KISSED THE TEACHER

I have to pat myself on the shoulder for “bravery” here. I’m a metal dude, yet I just have to pick this song that waves the flag for one of the least “macho” song titles ever. The opening 12-string acoustic guitar chords demands your attention and I’m just disarmed from the get-go. Never been a big fan of “happy” music, yet this one is anything but a downer track. I don’t know what it is…maybe the superb production? The work they must have put into this song is just mind boggling. Anni-Frid and Agnetha are doing their trademark dual vocals throughout the track, with the exception of Agnetha’s amazing “One of these days…” choruses. This is one of those songs where you need to listen to what’s going on “behind” the main vocal. It’s a constant flow of multi-tracked, rhythmic backing vocals that matches or even surpasses the genius of a band like Queen. Yeah, I said it! I meant it too!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

it's a well-known fact that mikael akerfeldt is WAY too nice to be truly metal ;-)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

haha

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:00 (ten years ago) link

On what planet is some Abba record better than Black Sabbath Vol. 4????

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:13 (ten years ago) link

Happy New Year Bill!!

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:15 (ten years ago) link

74. David Bowie - Lodger (1979) [93 points, 12 votes]

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Lodger is Bowie's masterpiece. Interesting that it's also one of his most overlooked records, isn't it?

"Boys Keep Swinging" = freaking genius "D.J." = catchy danceable genius "Yassassin" = incredible total genius "Red Sails" = major genius "Look Back in Anger" = ASTONISHING GENIUS

― J, Friday, May 10, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

'Lodger' has the best sleeve of any Bowie record. It spawned the best tribute album in the form of Talking Heads' 'Fear of Music'. I love its travelogue theme (hmm, perhaps it also spawned the Human League's 'Travelogue'?) and its eclectic avant pop stylings, although the same quality can give it the feel of a supermarket food court or theme park: do you want to Turkish flavour of 'Yassassin' or the 'Errol Flynn in the South China Sea' vibe of 'Red Sails'? Do you want the avant-griot chunder of 'African Night Flight' or the Berlin bar-room piano of 'DJ'? But I guess that's PoMo PoMo PoMo fo yo.

― Momus, Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

I was really, really into Bowie when I got it, and it almost single handedly stopped my Bowie phase in it's tracks. It's so... devoid of anything that made the other two "Berlin Albums" so bloody spectacular.The only songs I'd say are up to par are the beautiful "Fantastic Voyage" and "African Night Flight." Maybe it's the production./. but something about it just sounds very off. And what is up with "Red Money" taking the exact same music as "Sister Midnight?" Running out of idead Thin White Duke? Have to resort to stealing from yourself? Tsk Tsk.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, March 1, 2005 3:12 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:17 (ten years ago) link

That's not even a good album. With all the other stuff on that list. . . Sorry but I don't think I've complained about results yet.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:35 (ten years ago) link

At least you're not still in the position of wondering whether a single one of his votes will show!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:38 (ten years ago) link

73. Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974) [93 points, 14 votes]

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"zuckerzeit" still sounds like it's from the future.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, February 20, 2005 11:34 PM (4 years ago)

I've just spent an awful lot of money to get all the Cluster I can, along with Moebius/Plank's Rastakrautpasta, which has a song called "Two Old Timers" I heard many years ago and is the reason I would have known to check out Cluster in the first place. Zuckerzeit, Sowiesoso, Cluster '71: I am ENTHRALLED with all of these.

Yes I know I can download but in this case, it just isn't enough. This music is precious like gold.

― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:55 PM (5 years ago)

[i][Zuckerzeit] is classic seminal proto-techno pop electronica genius and pretty essential. Tiger Sushi licensed "Hollywood" so there's definately some awareness in the current electronic dance music hipster scene.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, May 16, 2004 1:34 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:41 (ten years ago) link

That's not even a good album.

Lodger is a fine album, not my favorite or anything, but I can totally understand why other people would love the hell out of it.

I've only ever heard the Cluster & Eno albums. I guess I should start digging into their own work some, yes?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:43 (ten years ago) link

There were 5 Bowie albums on the original poll and 7 more nominated for this one, kind of afraid that the ridiculous Bowie fanbase on this board is going to get all of them to place.

some dude, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:47 (ten years ago) link

woo cluster

Lodger used to be Bowie's fave album of his.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:48 (ten years ago) link

x-p
yes i guess so, zuckerzeit and sowiesoso are good starting points. with rother they suddenly have melodies and beats. before they were mainly minimal electronic pioneers. look out for the 2 harmonia albums as well. the same people.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:54 (ten years ago) link

only 1 of my picks so far have placed. Im guessing at least 30 of them are outside the top 100

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 20:56 (ten years ago) link

0-for-whatever here

swag the dog (The Reverend), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:00 (ten years ago) link

ZUCKERZEIT! another choice of mine places... i think it's up to 3 now

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:01 (ten years ago) link

Same here although I could easily have voted for about 15 of these (if it was pick 55 albums I suppose)

xpost

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:02 (ten years ago) link

I really cant wait to see 101-200 to see if my picks got close to the top 100.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:03 (ten years ago) link

^^

Zuckerzeit's "Hollywood" is a track for the ages, along with Harmonia's "Deluxe (immer wieder)", from Deluxe. They really knew how to kick off their albums in legendary fashion!

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:03 (ten years ago) link

Whoops, my ^^ was referring to what Alex in mainhatten wrote.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:04 (ten years ago) link

Zuckerzeit is the first record I don't know at all - voted for Harmonia though.....

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:05 (ten years ago) link

72. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978) [94 points, 12 votes]

http://i49.tinypic.com/34gx3kx.jpg

I've got Dub Housing - i like it lots. The guy's voice is one of the most comically incredible i've ever heard in pop but for some reason i got over it. I actually bought the album for £1 without a case thinking it was Dub Reggae... Boy was i wrong, but then it turned out to be excellent anyway :-)

― dog latin, Wednesday, May 2, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

he sings like a cross between David Byrne and Tiny Tim.

― scott, Monday, May 7, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

I'm surprised to see no consensus here that Dub Housing is by far their peak. It was dark, eerie, powerful, experimental but still totally engaging. Quite a feat for an album with an obsessive focus on paranoia and mental instability.

― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Wednesday, September 7, 2005 11:23 PM (4 years ago)

Dub Housing is so classic. Total paranoid schizo vibe.

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, September 8, 2005 1:26 AM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:08 (ten years ago) link

xp Zuckerzeit's my third placing as well, glad to see it that high

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:09 (ten years ago) link

Man, sorry I missed voting on this. I was working on my ballot and then, well, the holidays et cetera. But the top spots were Alice Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Joe McPhee and Herbie Hancock. Even into the '70s, jazz was still slaying rock.

Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:11 (ten years ago) link

OH NO! I hope herbie albums still make it or it will be all your fault ;)

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:14 (ten years ago) link

My intro to Pere Ubu was seeing a video from one of the late '80s albums on 120 Minutes, but I wasn't really paying attention. Later, Guided By Voices covered "Navvy" from Dub Housing so I went out and bought a cheapo vinyl copy. I tried and tried to convince myself I liked it, but I really, really didn't. I still haven't heard The Modern Dance or Datapanik or any of the other albums, early or later on.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:15 (ten years ago) link

Two of mine in a row there. I think Cluster was my number 40 and Pere Ubu were in my top 10.

It's already getting to the stage where I can tell some of my choices that I thought might sneak in lower down have probably missed out.

I'm a bit disappointed there hasn't been much disco or soul in the list so far.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:17 (ten years ago) link

dub housing is great but the debut is better and weirder. every song so different from the other and so original. it has to place as well.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:18 (ten years ago) link

disco and soul will probably place quite high. especially curtis mayfield, i am a little bit surprised chic placed so low though.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:21 (ten years ago) link

Modern Dance is my fave so I hope it places.

Where's the funk in this poll?!! If shakey mo didnt vote it's his fault.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:21 (ten years ago) link

Curtis is my #1

swag the dog (The Reverend), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:22 (ten years ago) link

If shakey mo didnt vote it's his fault

He didn't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:23 (ten years ago) link

Two of mine in a row there. I think Cluster was my number 40 and Pere Ubu were in my top 10.

More or less this in reverse for me. Thinking I should've put Zuckerzeit higher but had about 20 things competing to be in my top 5. Still not sure if my ballot is composed of too-obvious choices which will push out someone else's unknown treasures, or the other way round!

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah sorry I am kinda following this thread but I always find these nomination threads kinda bewildering

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:27 (ten years ago) link

*shakes fist*

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:29 (ten years ago) link

disco and soul will probably place quite high. especially curtis mayfield, i am a little bit surprised chic placed so low though.

I voted for both the Chic albums nominated and I put Risque quite a lot higher.

I'm really rooting for the Dr Buzzard's original Savannah band album. I know it has a few supporters on here but I can't see it being higher than a lot of the things already in.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:29 (ten years ago) link

71. The Rolling Stones - Some Girls (1978) [95 points, 13 votes]

http://i50.tinypic.com/34zkb9e.jpg

...comparing Some Girls to Voodoo Lounge is like comparing the Sistine Chapel ceiling to a black velvet Elvis. Especially in the lyrics dept. where Some Girls walks all over every other Stones album except Exile.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, September 28, 2002 10:25 PM

"Some Girls" = The Stones attempt to beat the encroaching discoistes and punkarocks at their own game while maintaining Greatest Rock N Roll Band Innaworl' status (quo), (more fuel to the punk = disco fire: In the eyes of The Rock Establishment circa 76 [eg Les Rolling Stones] punk & disco were one and the same); still Miss You's got the bassline but they didn't really hit it on the head until Emotional Rescue.

― fritz, Wednesday, May 1, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

I find Some Girls almost unlistenably unpleasant. Makes me shudder with disgust every time I hear it. It's not like the Stones' songs ever made them sound like "nice" people, but on Some Girls they sound like people I'd move house to avoid, so regardless of what the music sounds like ... I could never embrace it.

― ithappens, Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:01 AM (2 weeks ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:33 (ten years ago) link

comparing the winners of the 70s albums poll with the "who had the greatest 5 album run in the 70s" poll is kinda funny

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:40 (ten years ago) link

70. Neil Young - Harvest (1972) [96 points, 9 votes]

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Harvest gets unfairly brutal treatment among the typical Neil Young album rankings, as if it's some sort of flaccid piece of commercial dreck. It's really just as weird and wonderful as anything else of his.

― borrowed_tunes, Monday, November 14, 2005 4:47 PM (4 years ago)

Harvest is Neil Young's worst album. Of all the ones that people think are good, for example not Re.Ac.Tor.

― powertonevolume, Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

― Stew, Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:49 PM (2 years ago)

The symphonic stuff on "A Man Needs A Maid" is classic indeed. Really over-the-top, but so is(are) the sentiment(s). An ex-girlfriend got me into the song (I used to think it was mawkish, over the top, blah blah blah), though now that I wish someone was cleaning my house and I find myself falling for fictional characters and celebrities I REALLY like the song. s woods might be right, I dunno if Neil's overwraughtness would work without the big strings. Bright Eyes always works better with grandiose music for me than without, usually. BE's "Nothing Gets Crossed Out" could be Conor's "Man Needs A Maid" if he didn't have so many of them.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, April 4, 2003 3:39 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

Harvest was awesome to me at about the age of 15, but I've heard so many albums since that do the same thing better, that I almost never listen to it anymore. Even most of Neil's own Neil-and-guitar albums are better than Harvest. *shrug*

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:01 (ten years ago) link

harvest is one of the few commercially extremely successful albums i love. not sure if i haven't played it to death but i remember listeing to it in a luxembourg cafe by chance about 15 years ago and it was absolutely perfect. a heart of gold is one of the few songs i used to hate because for it's softness and simple tune when i was young and love now.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:14 (ten years ago) link

69. Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) [96 points, 12 votes]

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Sextant is among my top 5 records ever, it's just amazing.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:33 PM (2 years ago)

Herbie Hancock's 'Sextant' (1973?), sounds like the Aphex Twin

― dave q, Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

It's interesting to speculate what would've happened if Herbie and Gleeson had continued their collaboration from where it ended on Sextant, instead of Herbie forming the Headhunters. Maybe Herbie's sensibility for funk rhythms and Gleeson's electronic experimentalism could've lead them to techno? "Rain Dance" is pretty much proto-techno already, all it needs is an added drum machine beat.

― Tuomas, Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:18 AM (11 months ago)

I go with Herbie Hancock's ["Rain Dance"] from Sextant. Play that to people and then go ... that was 1973 they just won't believe it.

― phil, Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:16 (ten years ago) link

GET IN THERE!

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:17 (ten years ago) link

cool!

sleeve, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:18 (ten years ago) link

so far 5 from my ballot have shown up, but I can't see more than 10 others I voted for making it.

some dude, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:19 (ten years ago) link

I think headhunters will make it but doubt the others will sadly

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:20 (ten years ago) link

Oh, Harvest had to be so much higher, it's a lovely thing. It's also responsible for one of the most deliciously excruciating moments of my life, when a work colleague got drunk one Friday evening and started getting all teary-eyed about what a good guy his old man was, then sat up on his barstool and air-guitared and sang 'Old Man' for us all.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:32 (ten years ago) link

That's a touching story, but it doesn't make me like the album any more than I do already. ;)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:33 (ten years ago) link

68. Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974) [97 points, 10 votes]

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Stevie Wonder's "Fulfillingness First Finale" is the best R&B album ever...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:53 PM (6 years ago)

Fulfillingness' First Finale has always bugged the shit out of me.

― The Reverend, Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:10 AM (2 years ago)

“When I was at that point where you start getting involved in music, Stevie had that run with Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Fulfillingness’ First Finale and Innervisions, and then Songs in the Key of Life. Those are as brilliant a set of five albums as we’ve ever seen.” — Barack Obama (via Rolling Stone)

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:57 PM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:34 (ten years ago) link

^ awesome set of tributes

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:36 (ten years ago) link

Geir + Rev + Obama = comedy gold!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:41 (ten years ago) link

Awesome - my favorite Stevie Wonder album and my #2 vote overall.

o. nate, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:44 (ten years ago) link

x-post.

for a minute there I thought that read Geir + Rev = Obama.

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Goodness, no! You'd need, I don't know, a square-root in there somewhere!

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:58 (ten years ago) link

haha!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:58 (ten years ago) link

*mind explodes*

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:58 (ten years ago) link

Have we finally and truly entered the post-racial era?

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:10 (ten years ago) link

67. Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979) [98 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

http://i45.tinypic.com/5nsyns.jpg

totally classic. not a single second of filler. 'what a day' and 'persuasion' are my personal picks.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, March 13, 2006 5:14 PM (3 years ago)

have we FINALLY found the mythic "album that everyone on ILX likes"? in the shape of THROBBING GRISTLE?? awesome.

― electrogrouse (haitch), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:16 AM (3 years ago)

Well it is their pop album

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:17 AM (3 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:11 (ten years ago) link

(Used the super-rare Fetish version of the cover just for fun!)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:12 (ten years ago) link

at last! an album i *might* have voted for (but didn't, because i haven't heard it) (this will be rectified)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:13 (ten years ago) link

There's your jazz and funk you guys.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:14 (ten years ago) link

shocked...SHOCKED!...to go back to my ballot and realize that this hadn't made the final cut! Great album.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:16 (ten years ago) link

was my first place vote, figured it would be much higher!

Clay, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:16 (ten years ago) link

lol xxp

I voted for this excellent record. My ballot was unordered which is maybe not very strategic but once I got down to 40 it felt ridiculous to pretend one album was better than another.

sleeve, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:17 (ten years ago) link

One album is always better than another. A scenario to imagine for those who have difficulty with this -- in the next five seconds, all your top 40 albums are going to disappear forever, never to be heard again, save for the one you grab. Repeat as necessary.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:37 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 65. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [99 points, 9 votes]

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[T]he downside to much of post-Meddle Pink Floyd is that the songs are generally more interesting when they were still kicking them around on stage before going in to "properly" record them. Everyone owes it to themselves to track down a 1972 bootleg of DSOTM when it was still called "Eclipse." Radically different in places and occasionally more interesting.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:44 PM (4 years ago)

The Coldplay of the '70s!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:26 AM (4 years ago)

i wouldn't consider a top 100 of the seventies complete without pink floyd. dark side of the moon has to be the one.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:27 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:37 (ten years ago) link

somehow that confuses me

the album with more votes should win any tie, shouldn't it? i can't imagine the other joint-65 getting only 9 votes. DSOTM is beloved of a few ilxors, but it's REALLY beloved

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:41 (ten years ago) link

(predictable response time) This is the other top 100?

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:42 (ten years ago) link

OK, now there's two albums I really detest here.

sonofstan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:43 (ten years ago) link

I used to hate it, but I enjoy it in a, er, blue moon. I still enjoy this too though: http://www.mr-agreeable.net/story.lasso?section=Reaper&id=51

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:50 (ten years ago) link

Pretty astonished "20 Jazz Funk Greats " didn't place on the first poll – I thought that thing had its own church here.

girl moves (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:51 (ten years ago) link

xxp Whats the other one, sonofstan?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:53 (ten years ago) link

gonna guess 'imagine'

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:54 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 65. Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (1974) [99 points, 9 votes]

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Both For the Roses and Court and Spark are arguably better than Blue.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, August 29, 2003 9:49 AM (6 years ago)

She's got so much stuff going on in each song, so good, like if Kate Bush was a creepy old lady who made you eat dusty circus peanuts when you visited her house as opposed to K8 who would, I don't know, let you paint her dog or something.

― kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Monday, July 6, 2009 3:09 PM (5 months ago)

Lyrically she is much more than the fay hippie she's been portrayed as. She's got a great gift of observation re. people and relationships, which I guess puts her in the 'mature' category... Also, that kind of hippie outlook, she started out with, gave her a great perspective on the end of that dream during the 70s, as fantastically displayed on her classic trilogy: Court & Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira

― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, August 29, 2003 4:02 AM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:09 (ten years ago) link

*mind explodes*

― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:58 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:11 (ten years ago) link

RE: DSOM

The Coldplay of the '70s!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:26 AM (4 years ago)

That's like some serious frickin' zen koan shit being thrown there.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:24 (ten years ago) link

64. The Pop Group - Y (1979) [99 points, 10 votes]

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Strikes me that Y is a bit more accessible (however fleetingly) given the comparatively spacious production, the seemingly more varied instrumentation and the fact that guitarist Gareth Sanger actually coughs up an honest to goodness riff on occaision. There's also stubborn albeit skewed elements of jazz and dub to Y which make it just a tad easier to digest than the thorny, blackened No New York.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:39 PM (4 years ago)

'y' contains two of my all time favourite songs - 'thief of fire' and 'we are time' but it has a couple of weak moments.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:31 PM (4 years ago)

Maybe I'm projecting, but it seems to be an album that music snobs use to outdo each other in bouts of oneupsmanship. "Oh, you don't have Y on disc, eh? You're missing out, man!" "No, I actually have it on vinyl, if you must know!"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:04 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:27 (ten years ago) link

court and spark should be higher! so so so so so good.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:32 (ten years ago) link

63. Al Green - The Belle Album (1977) [100 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]

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the oft-maligned "The Belle Album" - the transitional one - is quite good.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, April 7, 2003 10:45 AM (6 years ago)

"Belle Album" as far as I can tell has never been maligned. I have the orig. old Hi LP of it--I feel safe in asserting that it's Green's greatest album.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Monday, April 7, 2003 11:39 AM (6 years ago)

al green is the ramones of soul, bitches. all his songs sound damn near the same but are perhaps more brilliant because of this. can i copyright this analogy? ha

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, June 5, 2005 3:14 PM (4 years ago)

The Belle Album is...wonderful way of dealing with born-again-ism ("it's you I want but Him that I need"...the holy trinity love triangle)..."Feels Like Summer" couldn't be a more appropriate song title, and "Dream", well, if I ever get hitched (ILM Poster In Unmarried SHOCKER!) that will be "our" song...(if I can sell it, which I'm sure I can)...

― henry s, Monday, December 31, 2007 11:29 AM (2 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:46 (ten years ago) link

Speaking as the guy who had this as his #1 pick, this should be much much higher. It's my default answer to the desert island disc conundrum. I also consider it one of the half dozen or so greatest pieces of religious art ever made - one of the very few that effectively communicates the sensation of religious ecstasy. I'm glad that at least by placing it at #1, I made sure it placed.

Also I enthusiastically endorse the Green/Ramones analogy, since they're tied as my favorite recording artists of the 70s.

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:56 (ten years ago) link

I'm nearly ashamed to say that all the Al Green I have is the Greatest Hits album. I'm definitely about to expand my familiarity with him, and The Belle Album seems like a fine place to begin.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:03 (ten years ago) link

If you at all put off by ostensive displays of religiousity, you might want to try I'm Still in Love with You first. That said, one the things that makes Belle such a great piece of religious art is because it's so much of a piece with everything else Green ever did. Unlike gospel, for example, this can't be mistaken as religious hysteria, and it's not a collective experience at all - it's Green's personal, idiosyncratic embrace of the Lord - made on Green's own perverse terms. It's like Green is alone in his own private universe with his Lord, and sorry babe, but no one else is invited. It's way it's essentially the narrative climax of the entire saga of Southern Soul - religious ecstasy gets folded back into the language of seduction, of secular cockmanship. He resolves the sex/manna/self/collective/relgion tensions that motivated soul by eliminating all meaningful distinctions between the multiple dichotomies that had generated the form.

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:12 (ten years ago) link

If you *are* at all...

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:13 (ten years ago) link

it's wayBelle is essentially...

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:15 (ten years ago) link

Belle (the title track) is a near perfect song.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:22 (ten years ago) link

The story of Al Green through the 70s is one I want to read -- is there a good book?

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:25 (ten years ago) link

i've never heard the Belle Album, but if it's so religiously charged why does AMG call it "the last secular work he would make for many years"?

balearific, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:26 (ten years ago) link

I don't want to gum-up this thread with a YouTube video, but the songBelle is here.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:30 (ten years ago) link

It's not a gospel work, so I won't begrudge somebody calling it a secular album, even if it can largely be understood as somebody's expression of their Christian fervor to a secular ear. And certainly not every song directly relates to that experience mind you - nothing about Georgia Boy communicates much beyond the obvious. Also, AMG doesn't know that the hell it's talking about - Truth n Time is his last secular studio album until the 90s, and the secular Live in Tokyo was released in 82, so I don't know how they arrive at that judgment.

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:38 (ten years ago) link

xxp Whats the other one, sonofstan?

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gonna guess 'imagine'

― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That predictable, I'm afraid...

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:51 (ten years ago) link

62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975) [100 points, 9 votes]

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Except maybe for Gaucho, I find this their most despairing album and as such, an extremely unpleasant listening experience, great though it is. I can very much see why anyone would think twice before playing it ... "Doctor Wu," in many ways the ultimate Steely Dan song, for how it amps up both the catchiness and the nihilism and how it burdens single words with so much meaning.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:45 AM (1 year ago)

Ellington would've dug the horns in the bridge of "Throw Back the Little Ones."

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:59 AM (1 year ago)

Katy Lied was my first Dan album, and it was "Everyone's Gone to the Movies" (perfectly evokes shag carpeted basement porn screenings) and "Dr. Wu" that sold me on 'em.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:49 PM (3 years ago)

the way the album ends, the last few notes..

― jabba hands, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:13 PM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:20 (ten years ago) link

Fulfillingness' First Finale has always bugged the shit out of me.

― The Reverend, Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:10 AM (2 years ago)

I read this and was like "Why would I say that?" I mean, it, along with Sextant are the first two albums here I voted for! Turns out I was talking about just the title "Fullfillingness' First Finale", not the music contained on the album.

swag the dog (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:26 (ten years ago) link

I second whoever is hoping for a Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band placement, but I have my hopes up!

swag the dog (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:27 (ten years ago) link

Sorry to take you out of context Rev. Sometimes I'm going through the ILM archives so fast looking for matching blurbs, that I forget what threads they relate to.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:29 (ten years ago) link

haha, no problem

swag the dog (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:34 (ten years ago) link

61. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (1971) [100 points, 11 votes]

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Well I've just finished the album and I must say my mind has been completely blown. I am absolutely speechless and will not play music for at least another half hour in sheer reverance.

― Bimble, Saturday, May 5, 2007 3:25 AM (2 years ago)

paranoid is probably the biggest step, but master of reality is a solidifying of their sound.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:57 PM (3 years ago)

Master of Reality on the whole is an explictly Christian album, I am actually writing every single day about exactly that aspect of it!

― J0hn D., Wednesday, June 6, 2007 4:51 PM (2 years ago)

^ I still need to buy this book.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:59 (ten years ago) link

40 down, 60 more to go...

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]
78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]
77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]
76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]
75. ABBA - Arrival (1976) [93 points, 8 votes]
74. David Bowie - Lodger (1979) [93 points, 12 votes]
73. Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974) [93 points, 14 votes]
72. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978) [94 points, 12 votes]
71. The Rolling Stones - Some Girls (1978) [95 points, 13 votes]
70. Neil Young - Harvest (1972) [96 points, 9 votes]
69. Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) [96 points, 12 votes]
68. Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974) [97 points, 10 votes]
67. Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979) [98 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 65. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [99 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 65. Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (1974) [99 points, 9 votes]
64. The Pop Group - Y (1979) [99 points, 10 votes]
63. Al Green - The Belle Album (1977) [100 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975) [100 points, 9 votes]
61. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (1971) [100 points, 11 votes]

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:01 (ten years ago) link

for the record, I am down for having some Obama babies with Geir

swag the dog (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:02 (ten years ago) link

If ever there were a reason for genetic engineering to exist, this is that reason.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:07 (ten years ago) link

I thought about going full on Steely Dan stan and voting for all their eligible albums, but Katy Lied is really my least favorite of their '70s albums and I figured I should make room for other bands on my ballot.

some dude, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:19 (ten years ago) link

Observation about this list so far: Fastnbulbous is probably right in that the '70s canon is so giant that even a second list of 100 albums is bound to be largely familiar. Not that this makes these albums any less good, but we'd probably have to poll, exclude, re-poll, exclude and re-poll another couple times before we get the kind of completely deep and provocative list we were hoping for. That said, I think the top half of these results will be more interesting to people than the bottom half when it's all over.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:27 (ten years ago) link

This poll really facilitated contemplation of the giantness of the giant 70s canon, with that amazing nominations/shopping/want list. I'd also just point out that this is a pretty rarefied crowd, ~20% of the voters gave points to Zuckerzeit, & so what's overly familiar to ILX poll voters & watchers is largely hopelessly obscure to most others. And we all don't share the same canon WITHIN the larger canon, so there are plenty of opportunities for surprise here. I was sure I was a mega-canonical voter, but only Dub Housing and Agharta have shown up from my ballot so far. I'd be curious to know who winds up with the most picks from their ballot on the final list.

dad a, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:44 (ten years ago) link

Replicas, Imagine, Harvest and Master of Reality are from my ballot, but my other 36 are safe for now.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:49 (ten years ago) link

the thing is you're never going to get a truly interesting, surprising, unique list by polling a large group of people anyway, especially something that would interest and surprise that group itself. you only get that with a good individual list (and i can't wait to see everyone's ballot after this is all over).

some dude, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:50 (ten years ago) link

six of mine on the list so far, if i'll get an additional six on it i'll be mildly surprised

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:57 (ten years ago) link

So far seven of mine have placed - Tres Hombres, Van Halen, New Boots and Panties, Space Ritual, Jailbreak, Lodger and Master of Reality. I figure another five or six have a good shot, though I'd love to see more (like my top two, for example).

Master of Reality on the whole is an explictly Christian album, I am actually writing every single day about exactly that aspect of it!

― J0hn D., Wednesday, June 6, 2007 4:51 PM (2 years ago)

^ I still need to buy this book.

― Johnny Fever

You really do. Incredibly moving book.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 04:09 (ten years ago) link

That's the spirit! The more we revel in the vastness of awesome 70s music, the less cranky I get. I just had a flashback to a class my freshman year in high school in 1983 when we were having some sort of discussion about music and culture. I was ejected from the class because a girl said the 70s was a total wasteland, and I called her a "silly twat." Oops!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 05:25 (ten years ago) link

I was ejected from the class because a girl said the 70s was a total wasteland

That's how I feel about the 90s now, but I'm sure I liked it at the time. One day, I might get there again.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 05:40 (ten years ago) link

Only three I voted for i think, but I stuck to my pig headed 'one album one artist' rule in order to get the list down, so a few of my alternate choices have come in - for example I only listed 'The Modern Dance', but could have voted for all three Ubus, I went for St. Dominic's Preview, but Veedon Fleece was a close second there, I went for Al green Explores your Mind......

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 05:55 (ten years ago) link

Eight off my list are in. Glad to see my #1 (Veedon Fleece)and #2 (The Wild, the etc) make it. I thought I knew my 70s music pretty well but damn if there aren't a number of discs from bands I'd never knew existed. ILX in long tail shocker.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 07:02 (ten years ago) link

i thought my ballot was pretty conventional almost-canon stuff but only 4 of 40 have shown up so far...

88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (#27)
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (#12)
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (#18)
62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (#15)

hope a couple of my prog picks get in, as obvious and canonical as they are

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 07:26 (ten years ago) link

Only 2 from my list so far (Comus and Sabbath Vol 4), hoping for another 10 or so but I get the feeling Blue Oyster Cult won't make it...

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:30 (ten years ago) link

All forty of mine have now appeared.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:33 (ten years ago) link

Not really - the actual total is seven, of which three are from my top ten. I'm middle of the road.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:35 (ten years ago) link

My votes so far appearing: Neu! 2, Space Ritual, Comus and Cluster.

No idea how many more of mine will appear, almost certainly a few, but this list is already completely different from how I expected it to turn out, so who knows?

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:40 (ten years ago) link

i only did a ballot for 35 (36-40 only get a point if you do ordered, didnt feel like sifting through dozens of albums to get a point). so far, just 2 from mine (ccr #4, chic #8)

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:40 (ten years ago) link

I'm glad to see Sextant made it, I was beginning to fear it wouldn't. It was my #5 vote (and only one of my votes to appear yet), but it could've easily been my #1, as my top 5 could've basically been in any order. It seems a consensus has formed on ILX that it's Herbie's best album, which indeed it is. Sextant features everything that was great about electric jazz in the late 60s/early 70s, before fusion froze into a set of cliches: the restless electronic experimentation, the abstract but undeniably funky rhythms, the freedom-within-a-groove horn blowouts. It's kinda sad that this was pretty much the swan song of the Mwandishi band (there are those two Eddie Henderson albums where most of the band appears, but as nice as they are, they feel less inspired than the albums released under Herbie's name). The Headhunters were a fine band too, and they released some awesome funk records, but there's just so much potentiality on those three Mwandishi albums (especially Sextant), so many exciting directions the music might've taken if the band could have continued playing.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:43 (ten years ago) link

Anway, I'm beginning to fear that only two or three of my top 40 might actually appear in the top 100. I'm still certain Curtis Mayfield's debut will make it, but I'm not so sure about anything else. If you look at top 60-100, 33 of the 40 albums appear to be more or less in the rock mold (I'm a bit uncertain about a couple of those), which feels way too much fo me. In my opinion the 70s were most likely the best decade ever for "black" music (African-American, Afro-Cuban, Caribbean, Nigerian, Jamaican, Brazilian, etc), but I don't see this being reflected in the poll (yet). I guess I gotta just face the facts, that rock will always be the consensus choice.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:49 (ten years ago) link

my choices are so obvious I'm starting to feel bad for not voting for the more obscure and thus throwing the list into boring territory (though I have to admit that I've found it anything but so far).

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:05 (ten years ago) link

That is how I feel too, on both counts, but given how I wouldn't have predicted the results so far it is also entirely possible that actually most of my obvious picks will not turn up at all

still feeling bad for turning in a very rockist (or at least very white) list - sheer musical ignorance I'm afraid, will attempt to school myself at some point, let's hope the results of this poll will allow for some of that as well as a few more of my choices popping up

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:12 (ten years ago) link

my list is pretty white too, but out of racism more than anything

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Ha!

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:14 (ten years ago) link

(well played sir, was rather a stupid non-confession of mine there, but still, this thread has underlined the need to broaden my horizons)

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:15 (ten years ago) link

Really beginning to fear for my babies now and wishing I'd ordered my list - there's three records in particular I'd love to see here, but as we go higher the likelihood of that recedes.

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:16 (ten years ago) link

Sabotage or bust!

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:06 (ten years ago) link

I'm shut out so far!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:10 (ten years ago) link

Did Geir vote?

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:13 (ten years ago) link

all of my fav '70s R&B albums are stuff that's either so canonical that it made the first list, or not canonical enough to make this list

some dude, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:14 (ten years ago) link

my list contains precisely one black person although he is one of the funkiest bassists that has ever lived so probably counts for 3 or 4 (the great Barry Adamson, obviously)

i don't feel especially guilty for this. sure soul jazz and r&b deserve lots of placements here, and sure they'll get them. sometimes a dude has to go bat for art-rock, s'all. i've called it based on what are my favourite albums [/geir]

i wish there was an equal desire on the part of the soul/jazz fans to expand their horizons towards progressive rock! [/geir]

god see talking about this makes me sound like geir

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:50 (ten years ago) link

i wish there was an equal desire on the part of the soul/jazz fans to expand their horizons towards progressive rock

ahem, back when you were still in short trousers son...

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:52 (ten years ago) link

I don't know, all this talk about 'black music' and 'white music', but what about the Asians, guys? Won't somebody think of the Asians?

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:53 (ten years ago) link

and no, not last year.
xp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:54 (ten years ago) link

yeah granted pfunkboy

i do need to hear more carnatic music etc. microtonal scales, drones, and other groovy things

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:55 (ten years ago) link

Actually, I only have two Asian bands on my list - YMO and FTB. But still.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:59 (ten years ago) link

60. Various Artists - No New York (1978) [101 points, 10 votes]

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I hate how "No New York" and "no wave" have become synonyms for "noisy."

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, July 30, 2004 3:11 PM (5 years ago)

I'm not sure what "lasting impact" *No New York* has had, since no NY bands since have really matched what the Contortions, DNA, Mars, and Teenage Jesus and the Jerks did on it (which isn't to say nobody's made music that *good* -- I mean, I just don't see how they've really influenced anybody in especially interesting ways, and when bands have *tried* to do what they did, they usually fall flat on their faces.)

― chuck, Thursday, June 5, 2003 1:02 PM (6 years ago)

When No New York hit unsuspecting record store shelves, the cache of Eno's involvement may have helped shift a few units, but I certainly don't believe it wasn't designed to suggest a bubbling well-spring of untapped profit-generators so much as take a snapshot of a truly unique, fleeting art movement.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, June 7, 2003 4:09 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Never heard of that one.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:53 (ten years ago) link

I guess I'm a middle-of-the-road voter too, since both of my picks that have placed thus far are ultra-canonical, ie. Bruce and Stevie.

o. nate, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:54 (ten years ago) link

sure soul jazz and r&b deserve lots of placements here, and sure they'll get them. sometimes a dude has to go bat for art-rock, s'all.

i feel u on this, but r&b and soul are no less artful and u should def make a quest to know the most prolific time of funky shit

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:02 (ten years ago) link

i will be chasing this stuff down. the 80's poll got me into prince!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:20 (ten years ago) link

if u dig the mega-genius of prince, u should follow the advice of the usa president and listen to that 5-album run by noted-recording artist stevie wonder

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:23 (ten years ago) link

I'm still holding out hope that Lawrence of Newark made it. Oh, and Don Cherry's Brown Rice. That's fucking killer too. But I think that my ballot may have been functionally irrelevant…

Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:30 (ten years ago) link

Disappointed in the low placement of NNY. I think it was in my top 10 in the original poll. I hope Tusk takes this.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:33 (ten years ago) link

I thought NNY was definitely canon enough to make it top 30.

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:34 (ten years ago) link

I was kind of surprised how high NNY was -- highly admired, rarely loved. Again, how can anything ranked in the top 100 out of over 1,300 options be considered low, considering there's easily another 1,000 worthy candidates?

I picked up CCR's Green River used to reconsider, and realized I already had most of the tracks on the two comps. At least it was a 40th Anniv remaster (didn't have Cosmo's), and I always prefer to hear the songs in the sequence they intended. I do like their chooglin', it was probably just a mistake to listen to their entire catalog all at once. I don't know that I can stomach ABBA though, I'm still recovering from Mama Mia.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:38 (ten years ago) link

tusk is 1980 tho?

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:40 (ten years ago) link

19 oct 1979 according to wikipedia

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:44 (ten years ago) link

'79.

Completely forgot to finish my voting ballot. Enjoying what I see and read so far!

willem, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:46 (ten years ago) link

Format:

Position, Album title, Artist, Year, Points, Votes.

Picture.

Blog/posts of people dissing the album
One post from someone who likes it
Tuomas post about having never heard of it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 17:36 (ten years ago) link

Comfort and familiarity in these troubled times.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 17:45 (ten years ago) link

59. The Specials - Specials (1979) [102 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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First album : the most classic of the classic, of all music.. seriously. "The Specials" was the most important and therapeutic record for me back in the day, when I used to feel like a social fuck-up.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, December 13, 2002 1:55 PM (7 years ago)

Their first album alone redeems them from any possible later crimes they may have committed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, December 13, 2002 5:08 PM (7 years ago)

In high school a friend gave me a copy of "Lifes Rich Pageant" that he'd taped over a copy of this Specials album, so that right after the end of "Superman" you'd come in halfway through "Little Bitch," and I was completely captivated by this amazing half-song, which it was two years before I learned what it was and bought the record.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:39 PM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Still prefer the first Beat album to this one i think, but both are classic

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:00 (ten years ago) link

I didn't notice the Specials were on the nominations list I just assumed it was in the first time round. I would have voted it for if I'd have seen it, the first two albums are total classics.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:04 (ten years ago) link

I love that story from eephus.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:15 (ten years ago) link

Seven of my 40 in so far, got no idea whether most of my others stand a chance of placing. My picks were certainly more varied in terms of genre than my '80s list was. For the last two or three years the '70s has been a constant source of unheard treasures for me really.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Sorry they're so few today, guys. My internet keeps going out for an hour or more at a time.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:39 (ten years ago) link

58. John Cale - Fear (1974) [104 points, 11 votes]

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I've listened to the Fear album at least 100 times in the past week. I can't believe I had gone this far without ever hearing Ship of Fools.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, July 31, 2006 8:08 PM (3 years ago)

John Cale's Fear, the piano in the title track seems startlingly real to me.

― nickn (nickn), Monday, October 2, 2006 5:23 PM (3 years ago)

(very little of any substance written on Fear in the archives, which is odd.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:50 (ten years ago) link

plus ça change

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:14 (ten years ago) link

You add it up, it brings you down.

Euler, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Polls are a man's best friend.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:16 (ten years ago) link

you know it makes sense, don't even think about it

velko, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:18 (ten years ago) link

Glad it's here, but again, i voted for a different one (Vintage Violence)

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:24 (ten years ago) link

57. Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson (1971) [106 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Finally got Nilsson Schmilsson and it's pretty much wall-to-wall stuff that will get stuck in my head for whole days at a time. "Gotta Get Up" is so fucking classic it's not funny.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, March 3, 2006 11:40 AM (3 years ago)

"Nilsson Schmilsson" isn't as good as the early albums, "Son of Schmilsson" isn't as good as "Nilsson Schmilsson". "A Little Schmilsson in the Night" I like. The other albums are hideously patchy and often just plain hideous until you get to "Knnillsson" which is good again.

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, June 7, 2005 9:56 AM (4 years ago)

nilsson schmilsson is both the commercial and critical high point, with, among other things, his mega-hit cover of the badfinger pop ballad "without you" and the hard-grooving "jump into the fire." the former was covered (again) by mariah carey; the latter is currently being covered by lcd soundsystem.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:33 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:41 (ten years ago) link

yay!

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:42 (ten years ago) link

I defs drove some roommates crazy by constantly playing Nilsson Scmilsson in 2003.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:42 (ten years ago) link

Nilsson Schmilsson is one of those albums I'm pretty sure I would love but have never gotten around to hearing. Hmm.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:44 (ten years ago) link

I was glad to see this make the cut, tbh. It was hovering right outside of the top 100 for a long, long time.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:45 (ten years ago) link

Voted for two Nilsson albums and I don't think either will make the cut now.

Bing Crosby, are you listening? (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:48 (ten years ago) link

The Specials s/t is my #1, natch! And so far the only intersection between my ballot and the poll.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:50 (ten years ago) link

Great story too, eephus!em,!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:59 (ten years ago) link

56. King Crimson - Red (1974) [109 points, 12 votes]

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Red is my favourite of the earlier Crimson, because it's not too wacky. Red is not quite so inane, lyrically, and the music is muscular and scary in places, without getting too overblown.

― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

I do not get why everyone loves Red. It rocks. I enjoy it. But what does this record do that Black Sabbath or Deep Purple or even Genesis didnt do better years before?

― Miza Din II, Monday, October 22, 2007 5:12 PM (2 years ago)

I dreamed last night that I was frantically and passionately playing air guitar to "Red," to the shock and amusement of several friends. Fer chrissake, people - air guitar (!!). LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!! :)

― Ernest P., Wednesday, September 4, 2002 7:48 AM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:10 (ten years ago) link

I went through a pretty severe King Crimson phase right after high school, but I'll be damned if I can remember how any of the songs go these days. I remember favoring this and Larks' Tongues more than any others, though.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:15 (ten years ago) link

the ultimate crimson has always been in the court of the crimson king for me. red is different than the others though. less prog, more rock.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:18 (ten years ago) link

(xp)

tbh I've found the actual ending of Lifes Rich Pageant sort of a letdown ever since

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:24 (ten years ago) link

hurrah one of mine makes it

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:26 (ten years ago) link

omg nilsson schmilsson is amazing. ty ilx.

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:29 (ten years ago) link

55. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports (1978) [110 points, 12 votes]

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Well, I don't see much outside value in it, but I have "Music For Airports" and I keep it for its effect on sleeplessness. It's perfect for that use.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:53 AM (2 years ago)

i think Brian Eno once said this was made for playing in hospitals as well.

― k wonder, Monday, June 27, 2005 9:51 AM (4 years ago)

Eno's "Music For Airports" - soothing and relaxing. Ideally, this would be listened to while drinking garlic/ginger/cayenne/lemon juice tea.

― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:14 PM (3 years ago)

Eno = not ambient. Just because he labels it such, doesn't make it so. 'Music for Airports' was played in an airport, it was so obtrusive that everybody hated it and demanded it be taken off! (Or is that an urban legend?)

― tarden, Monday, July 16, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:36 (ten years ago) link

Well is it?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:39 (ten years ago) link

i never understood the appeal of this and "discreet music". "on land" on the other hand is one of the most fascinating records of his. it sounds so excitingly natural.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:39 (ten years ago) link

Well is it?

I've heard that as well, but I can't find anything on it.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:43 (ten years ago) link

haha I can no longer complain about none of mine making it! although in fairness I only voted for Red because a) Starless is amaaaazing and b) I figured that unlike the others it might actually show

but yeah it's pretty good

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:45 (ten years ago) link

i'm still hoping Larks' makes it too. do like the cover of Red more though.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

54. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove (1978) [110 points, 13 votes]

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One Nation is a Parliament album, that happens to have the Funkadelic name on it.

― Bill Magill, Friday, April 13, 2007 4:52 PM (2 years ago)

One Nation is the strongest of the later albums. It does have some great tracks on it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:00 PM (2 years ago)

Look, if music had died in 1975, there would have been no One Nation Under A Groove. Without One Nation Under A Groove there would have been no reason to live. End of story.

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, May 14, 2004 5:41 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:56 (ten years ago) link

Hoorah!

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:00 (ten years ago) link

nothing can stop us nowwwwww

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:03 (ten years ago) link

lol I still got nothing. Voted for a different Funkadelic album.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:03 (ten years ago) link

i voted for this, uncle jam, and free your mind, i think the latter still has a good shot of placing

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:04 (ten years ago) link

I'm trying to fight off post-lunch food coma and general it's 4:00 and it's pitch-black winter malaise, and my 70s mix is going from Nilsson's mellow "I'll Never Leave You" to Cale's "Buffalo Ballet" ('Sleeping in the midday sun'). Not helping!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:04 (ten years ago) link

I didn't vote for that, but it's nice to finally see some funk on the list! Hopefully there'll be plenty more! It would be nice to see some Meters and Fela here, though I kinda suspect vote splitting will mean no Fela albums in the top 100.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Yeah the latter was my pick, I was on 1 album max per artist else I'd never be able to get down to 40 albums, it was bad enough as it was!

xxpost

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (ten years ago) link

me too col poo , lol. I figured it would make it as its the usual token pick in mags so i voted for 5 better funkadelic albums.
xps

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (ten years ago) link

standing on the verge of getting it on is the best funkadelic after Maggot Brain imo along with free your mind so im hoping they might place ahead of one nation.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:07 (ten years ago) link

53. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns (1975) [111 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Summer Lawns manages to cram its ambition into a setting so coherent and flowing that you don't really notice its complexity at first. The title track blows my mind.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, August 1, 2003 10:35 AM (6 years ago)

i like hissing because it takes what can initially seem a bland LA jazzlite sound (and theme?) and spins it into somrthing blurred, sundazed, strange

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, August 3, 2003 9:59 PM (6 years ago)

"hissing .." shows she was prepared to then push things into those interesting sonic areas. I love its opening of "france kiss mainstreet"/ "jungle line", and even occasionally fantasize as to those songs being a pop-shot at the rolling stones. For me, "hissing .." is the one, even if it's promises have largely been left un-followed-up.

― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, December 5, 2003 2:02 AM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:14 (ten years ago) link

<3 hissing

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:18 (ten years ago) link

I'm really glad to see Funkadelic made it. I voted for that one and Chocolate City by Parliament.

Apart from Curtis Mayfield I think most of the soul and funk I voted for must have missed out. I thought Minnie Riperton, War or the Meters might have made it.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:18 (ten years ago) link

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for both Minnie Riperton and The Meters.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:19 (ten years ago) link

From David Sheppard's Eno biog:
"...the album was played at LaGuardia. It was installed for a month in the Marine Terminal in 1980 and was followed by further airings at Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport, and later, in a number of other terminals. No empirical data exists to confirm the psycho-behavioural efficacy (or otherwise) of the music in situ, but there was the odd anecdotal report of a sensitive traveler complaining about the music inducing queasiness and another of passengers nodding of, although these remain uncorroborated."

Number None, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:22 (ten years ago) link

A 70s top 100 without a single Minnie record would feel... I dunno, just wrong.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:22 (ten years ago) link

I think we may have voted for different Minnie albums isn't Adventures in Paradise your favourite? I went for the first album.

I voted for Rejuvination by The Meters as Loving You is On My Mind is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:23 (ten years ago) link

I voted for both Come into My Garden and Adventures in Paradise, but yeah, I did put AiP higher in my ballot. I didn't manage to squeeze Perfect Angel into my top 40, but I'd be happy if it made it too.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:26 (ten years ago) link

Voted Rejuvenation and Come into My Garden, so maybe there's a chance....

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:27 (ten years ago) link

I have good hope Minnie will place.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:36 (ten years ago) link

I had Sly Stone's Fresh on my ballot, but I took it off because I only obtained a copy recently and felt like I was gaming the system by putting it my ballot after only a few listens. I thought Sex Machine had a decent shot at placing in this poll but since no one else has namechecked it yet, I'm starting to have my doubts now.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:41 (ten years ago) link

52. Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger (1975) [111 points, 12 votes]

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a special award must go to willie nelson for "red headed stranger," possibly the biggest-selling album with the shortest songs in history. 15 tracks, 3 of 'em under a minute, 5 of 'em longer than a minute but shorter than two minutes, 4 of 'em in the 2 minute range (including the big single), and only 3 (out of 15!!!) that go on for longer than three minutes.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, March 22, 2004 4:21 PM (5 years ago)

it's really something else...it was Willie's first album for Atlantic and his first big crossover hit, going triple platinum and "Blue Eyes Crying In the Rain" reaching the top 40...which when you listen to it is pretty amazing. even in '75, in the wake of "Tommy" (dunno if Willie actually ever claimed it as an inspiration for RHH though), this is still a bizarre and wonderful narrative concept album about a preacher who murders his wife and finds redemption in new love. most of the songs are then-obscure covers that Willie wove into the storyline, which never quite comes together but still has some real emotional resonance and continuity(which was adapted into an apparently awful feature film in the 80's). on top of that it's an incredibly quiet and spare record where you're really forced to get up close and personal with Willie's voice, which let's face it we all know is an acquired taste.

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, November 5, 2002 9:39 PM (7 years ago)

Willie Nelson also played the White House while Carter was Prez and Willie has stated he smoked a joint on the roof before playing the show.

― earlnash, Monday, September 8, 2003 2:36 PM (6 years ago)

^ that's not specifically related to the album in question, but should be put out there again for the good of humanity.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:41 (ten years ago) link

Thank god this made it.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:48 (ten years ago) link

It's not my favorite Willie album by any means (too fragmented), but its high points are super duper high (no pun intended).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Not my favorite Willie either, but damned good. Also, based on the boots I've heard, the tour that year was hella good.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:58 (ten years ago) link

the Joni = my #1
the Willie = another of my guilty blind-spots

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:59 (ten years ago) link

111 points with 7 votes! Shit!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:00 (ten years ago) link

Greatly loved by a few. (I've never heard it, but the descriptions make it sound interesting.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:01 (ten years ago) link

51. Van Morrison - Moondance (1970) [111 points, 13 votes]

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I do not own this album but my friend Kurt does and he would always put it on before we would crash from an evening of very questionable activities. It is so beautiful in parts it made falling alseep on the floor of a filthy basement apartment actually quite nice.

― Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Tuesday, May 6, 2003 11:00 PM (6 years ago)

I remember first hearing this album, in a cramped freshman dorm room at Syracuse. What grabbed me right away wasn't the songs, or even Van's singing, but the two-part harmony of the simple sax riff on the chorus of "Stoned Me." From there on, I was hooked.
Classic.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, May 7, 2003 7:27 AM (6 years ago)

A teetering tower of pungent, tepid dung.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, May 7, 2003 12:03 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Alex was too kind.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Van does not look good on that cover. He looks like Mick Hucknall.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Five Mick Hucknalls.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:04 (ten years ago) link

i love that album

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:04 (ten years ago) link

here's hoping the next 50 is more me-friendly. i'm selfish like that

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:05 (ten years ago) link

Van does not look good on that cover. He looks like Mick Hucknall.

It's as good as he got!

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:08 (ten years ago) link

Okay, sorry I only got through ten today (spotty internet service is to blame). That's half the poll, though. There are that many more albums to come!

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]
78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]
77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]
76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]
75. ABBA - Arrival (1976) [93 points, 8 votes]
74. David Bowie - Lodger (1979) [93 points, 12 votes]
73. Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974) [93 points, 14 votes]
72. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978) [94 points, 12 votes]
71. The Rolling Stones - Some Girls (1978) [95 points, 13 votes]
70. Neil Young - Harvest (1972) [96 points, 9 votes]
69. Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) [96 points, 12 votes]
68. Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974) [97 points, 10 votes]
67. Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979) [98 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 65. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [99 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 65. Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (1974) [99 points, 9 votes]
64. The Pop Group - Y (1979) [99 points, 10 votes]
63. Al Green - The Belle Album (1977) [100 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975) [100 points, 9 votes]
61. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (1971) [100 points, 11 votes]
60. Various Artists - No New York (1978) [101 points, 10 votes]
59. The Specials - The Specials (1979) [102 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
58. John Cale - Fear (1974) [104 points, 11 votes]
57. Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson (1971) [106 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
56. King Crimson - Red (1974) [109 points, 12 votes]
55. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports (1978) [110 points, 12 votes]
54. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove (1978) [110 points, 13 votes]
53. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns (1975) [111 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger (1975) [111 points, 12 votes]
51. Van Morrison - Moondance (1970) [111 points, 13 votes]

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:11 (ten years ago) link

van morrison is exhibit a in the case for beards being an instant looks improvement for most dudes

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:27 (ten years ago) link

I've had an on-and-off beard for the last four years, shaved it off once last summer and decided that would probably be the last time ever I'd not have one.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:28 (ten years ago) link

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for both Minnie Riperton and The Meters.

I think i've given up hope on Ohio Players, Bootsy Collins, Isley Brothers and Mandrill placing.

ILX is funk free mostly unlike the actual 1970s.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:42 (ten years ago) link

I think I've given up on Love Beach, 2112 & Wanna Meet The Scruffs? placing.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:46 (ten years ago) link

ILX is funk free mostly unlike the actual 1970s

Never mind the funk. Halfway through this poll and absolutely no reggae so far. Is it possible for a 1970s Albums Poll to exist without ANY reggae. That has to be violating some kind of law of quantum mechanics.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:53 (ten years ago) link

reggae i kinda understand if only because i figure a lot of peoples' exposure to older reggae comes not from studio albums of the era (beyond marley and cliff) but from more recent compilations.

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:54 (ten years ago) link

i am fine with these results this far, except that Chic got beat by Lennon. "I Want Your Love" and "Le Freak" alone destroy anything Lennon ever did solo, imo.

And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:57 (ten years ago) link

now i can understand why everyone was getting made at me for my capn-save-a-hiphop on the 80s countdown.

also considering the only nominations i used were 5 reggae albums and i forgot to vote, i apologise.

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:58 (ten years ago) link

(2xpost) Yeah, this is true and why I only ended up voting for 1 or 2 reggae LPs - I'm aware that the 70s were an amazing time for reggae, but most of my reggae is compilations of collected 7" tracks etc. If I'd thought more carefully there would've been a few I should've nominated, though, but since they weren't on the list, no vote.+

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 23:58 (ten years ago) link

Outside of Bob Marley/Wailers and maybe Toots, wasn't reggae a not-widely-known commodity in the actual '70s? Granted, there's no reason we shouldn't be overly familiar with it now, at least 30 years later, but I don't think it was a going concern to the average '70s record buyer.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:00 (ten years ago) link

I think I've given up on Love Beach, 2112 & Wanna Meet The Scruffs? placing.

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:46 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i voted for 2112! wish i had placed it higher now though...i had A Farewell to Kings up at the top instead of it

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:03 (ten years ago) link

I meant to nominate some Jackie Mittoo but forgot after looking up Evening Time and discovering it was '68. Probably wouldn't have got mad votes however so I will just use the platform of this post to say that Evening Time is not 70s but is pretty damn great.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:03 (ten years ago) link

A friend of mine is a Jackie Mittoo evangelist, so I've heard my fair share. Mostly just from comps he burned, though, so I have no idea which albums actually hang together better than others.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:06 (ten years ago) link

I think Reggae, Funk and Soul would all do better in a singles poll than an albums one. Reggae in particular seems like such a singles oriented genre, especially in the 60s and 70s.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:14 (ten years ago) link

i am fine with these results this far, except that Chic got beat by Lennon. "I Want Your Love" and "Le Freak" alone destroy anything Lennon ever did solo imo.

fixed.

Outside of Bob Marley/Wailers and maybe Toots, wasn't reggae a not-widely-known commodity in the actual '70s? Granted, there's no reason we shouldn't be overly familiar with it now, at least 30 years later, but I don't think it was a going concern to the average '70s record buyer.

Not true in Britain/ Ireland - reggae was pretty damn audible even here in (then) white Ireland, and in London/ Brimingham, it was close to being THE sound of the city.

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:33 (ten years ago) link

There were definitely some classic reggae albums on the nomination list for this poll Two Sevens Clash, Marcus Garvey, Burnin', Catch a Fire and Natty Dread. I guess in my mind these less obscure that Clube de Esquina or First Utterance , but I realize that we all come to our favored genres differently. I say that as someone who views himself as a dabbler in reggae rather than a true aficionado. Did put a fair amount on my ballot tho'

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:34 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, after I posted that I immediately remembered its popularity over there at the time (made known to me by watching Westway to the World). xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:34 (ten years ago) link

x-post to self -But, yeah as 7" and 12" singles/ Dubs and as public music on sound systems more than album music

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:35 (ten years ago) link

5 out of 50 for me so far (Horses, Fear, 20 Jazz Funk Greats, Red, Specials)

sleeve, Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:45 (ten years ago) link

I've got 8, but they're all pretty predictable. Hard to take Horses seriously after the Biscuit pic:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/3108893340_c34e95e1f1.jpg

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:52 (ten years ago) link

meant that to be url. instinctively did img. sorry.

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:53 (ten years ago) link

don't be sorry

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 00:57 (ten years ago) link

Horses has a reggae song on it: Redondo Beach (white reggae).

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Thursday, 7 January 2010 01:00 (ten years ago) link

If you at all put off by ostensive displays of religiousity, you might want to try I'm Still in Love with You first. That said,

one the things that makes Belle such a great piece of religious art is because it's so much of a piece with everything else Green ever did. Unlike gospel, for example, this can't be mistaken as religious hysteria, and it's not a collective experience at all - it's Green's personal, idiosyncratic embrace of the Lord - made on Green's own perverse terms. It's like Green is alone in his own private universe with his Lord, and sorry babe, but no one else is invited. It's way it's essentially the narrative climax of the entire saga of Southern Soul - religious ecstasy gets folded back into the language of seduction, of secular cockmanship. He resolves the sex/manna/self/collective/relgion tensions that motivated soul by eliminating all meaningful distinctions between the multiple dichotomies that had generated the form.

― MumblestheRevelator, Tuesday, January 5, 2010 5:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^great post and the reason why the religion in green is so different than any other artist's religion imo. the "sex/manna/self/collective/religion" all comes together in his voice, which is blinding on this album. his performance on "loving you" has sent me into raptures, absolutely breathtaking. that being said, i feel like the whole ensemble of players on the earlier albums are equal to green whereas here it seems a little unfocused sometimes. if i voted, "call me" would be my #1 easy and is also my desert island disc, it's like all of life contained in 39 minutes.

Don't delay, we cannot do this forever. (Matt P), Thursday, 7 January 2010 01:18 (ten years ago) link

I am just sickened by the lack of any calypso. Don't you people know about the Mighty Sparrow? For crying out loud people, you need to broaden your musical horizons. I mean, I like Steve Miller Band as much as the next dude but there's so much more out there.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 January 2010 01:20 (ten years ago) link

also "Georgia Boy" sounds AMAZING on a dance floor

Don't delay, we cannot do this forever. (Matt P), Thursday, 7 January 2010 01:24 (ten years ago) link

The lack of precision on Belle might be one reason it's so great. Don't get me wrong - those Mitchell produced albums are their own varieties of sublimity. But the slight lack of focus that marks Belle - the softness of the drums in comparison to those on the Mitchell produced albums, or the way the band never quite get a heavy groove going on 'Georgia Boy'(at least in comparison to what Mitchell & Co. could cook up) - crafts such an individual sonic space, one wherein everything gradually washes away in the wake of Green's vocals. It's a world where everything is breaking down, but not in an apocalyptic way, or as a consequence of failures of nerve and wit, but as a natural kind of winding down. Though arguing whether it's better than Call Me strikes me a bit like arguing whether you love your wife or your children more.

I sort of wish it had been his last secular album for a while, because Truth n Time is a bit of a disappointment in comparison, though it does have a great version of 'To Sir, With Love' (a song I normally detest but which Green utterly transforms).

MumblestheRevelator, Thursday, 7 January 2010 01:46 (ten years ago) link

the specials album does not make the first 100, and lands at 59 on this list? bullshit of the highest order.

so I'm to believe a bunch of cheerless sots are sitiing around listening to king crimson, john cale, and brian eno...

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:19 (ten years ago) link

I apologize.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:03 (ten years ago) link

I've never even listened to the Specials album (ska aversion). I'll listen to it soon and get back to you. xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:27 (ten years ago) link

what a disaster for cheerful sots

velko, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:36 (ten years ago) link

what a disaster for cheerful sots
what a chance you'll always get back
what a meaningful prayer

what a cold scuffle searching for kicks
...

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:45 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 49. The Who - Who's Next (1971) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Sure, you've heard "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" too many times (damn you, CSI!) its undeniably classic, easily the Who's OPO. If nothing else, for Entwistle's best song "My Wife."

― Mitya (mitya), Monday, March 13, 2006 7:21 PM (3 years ago)

As for Who's Next it's both classic and dud. Past 1967, Townshend's failures are generally pretty interesting and the sinking of Lifehouse results in a pretty outstanding rock album without all the conceptual blubber of hippie mysticism weighing it down. I'd dump some of the tracks with a couple of the Odds And Sods leftovers (really just "Pure And Easy" and "Naked Eye") though.

Who's Next also marks the point where the studio version of The Who completely separates from the live version of The Who. It's not surprising, Townshend has everything he needs to feed his maniac pursuit to whatever/wherever, but the one thing he can't do is get the live sound down of the 70s-era Who. Too bad, the live versions of "Won't Get...," "Baba...," and "My Wife" on The Kids Are Alright are still U & K and there's a live take of "Bargain" out there that's just amazing.

― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:32 PM (3 years ago)

Keith Moon's drumming is positively godlike all over this record. It's a full percussion session built into one guy. I really love the freakout drumming on Bargain and his playing is so groovy under neath that autowah solo out on Going Mobile.

Those synth/organ loops on Baba O'Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again are really ahead of the curve for 1971.

― earlnash, Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:25 AM (1 week ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:52 (ten years ago) link

i didn't put who's next or dark side of the moon on my ballot but i loved loved loved them when i was younger and getting into "classic rock" so maybe i only left them out because they were too obvious...

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:56 (ten years ago) link

like i basically assumed they were on the first list, only on ILX do they miss a top 20 70s records list let alone top 100

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:57 (ten years ago) link

Should've just made this a list of 102 albums so they could be included out of obligation. (Or 103, to include Born to Run... which, duh, is coming up on this list in the future. Sorry to spoil the suspense.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:00 (ten years ago) link

Born to Run is a bit different though in that Springsteen doesn't quite seem to have made the popularity leap to my generation in the same way Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Beatles etc. have. He's not a central piece of the "classic rock" canon that gets remarketed to younger folks. I didn't listen to him until much later on when my interest in music grew broader.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:14 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 49. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Armed Forces (1979) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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This was the first Costello album I heard, sometime in 1980. As a kid who was used to Queen, ELO, Styx, etc., this album along with Fear Of Music and Pleasure Principle sounded pretty radical and changed my idea of what constitutes a "good song." Few songs on Armed Forces (much better title than the overly blunt Emotional Fascism) were directly catchy. To me it sounded to be more about wordplay and creative arrangements and production.

― Fastnbulbous, Monday, June 30, 2008 4:02 AM (1 year ago)

this is a great album overall, a top three Elvis C album for me. this is the album where he really over-extended himself on the wordplay though, and got much too clever for his own good. thankfully he seemed to realise that at the time because the puns were never so laboured or obtrusive again.

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:17 PM (1 year ago)

Armed Forces has some of the best inner-sleve artwork, ever, and careens between overdone wordplay, earnest emotion, and cutting lines like "she has a chemistry class, I want a piece of her... mind" which I adore.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:17 (ten years ago) link

^ just about every critique in the archives mentions the wordplay on this album. I agree that sometimes it gets so self-consciously clever that it borders on distracting, but "Green Shirt" can't be topped and I'd hate it if he dumbed it down.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:20 (ten years ago) link

another good one i didn't vote for!

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:20 (ten years ago) link

when i was 5 or so i used to run out of the room when 'oliver's army' came on because i was scared of it. great song!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:24 (ten years ago) link

That's so weird! What did you find scary about it?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:26 (ten years ago) link

48. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane (1973) [113 points, 11 votes]

http://i45.tinypic.com/4jbyg.jpg

Fun fact = compare Mike Garson's piano solo twiddling on Aladdin Sane to his backing work for the Pumpkins in 1998 and 2000 and see how very little has changed.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, April 26, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Bowie's best LP, Garson is perfect, etc. One of the first LPs I bought and I still have that 30-year old slab of wax.

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:16 PM (6 years ago)

Worst crime against humanity: ethnic cleansing or not knowing every single track on Aladdin Sane?

― King Boy Pato, Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:52 AM (2 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm way badder than the janjaweed

estelawolf (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:54 (ten years ago) link

oh! sorry. i just found the melody scary! can't explain why. i think the piano was too real for me

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 05:55 (ten years ago) link

not the best bowie album but the title track might be my favorite bowie song

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:04 (ten years ago) link

47. Harmonia - Musik von Harmonia (1974) [113 points, 13 votes]

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"Musik von Harmonia" is one of my favorite records. Absolutely gorgeous and compelling music. Listening to "Dino" on loop is possible for hours.

― direct_program, Tuesday, November 4, 2003 11:21 AM (6 years ago)

I have looked longingly and enviously at the photograph inside the sleeve of "Musik Von Harmonia" of that rad practice/studio space filled with antiques and analogue keyboards and big fuck-off amps and floor-to-ceiling french doors with curtains and fur coats thrown gallantly across big comfy overstuffed chairs so many times . . . sigh.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, January 6, 2005 2:09 PM (5 years ago)

I think I like the first Harmonia record slightly better, it's less pop, less studio, more flowing, pastoral and unforced, and occasionally flat out weird, a couple nice noisy moments. that first track 'watussi' is probably my favorite Harmonia moment and 'sehr kosmiche'... yes.

― (Jon L), Thursday, January 6, 2005 3:24 PM (5 years ago)

True story: Last week I was listening to Harmonia's Musik von Harmonia at work and one of my co-workers asked if it was the Mannheim Steamroller Xmas album.

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, December 6, 2002 9:25 AM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:22 (ten years ago) link

I have never heard of Harmonia, but that's a great cover.

estelawolf (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:31 (ten years ago) link

it's an album I really want to hear! need to get more of the krauty stuff down me

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:33 (ten years ago) link

I still haven't listened to this one, but I grabbed Deluxe during the nominations process and it's absolutely exquisite.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:35 (ten years ago) link

True story: Last week I was listening to Harmonia's Musik von Harmonia at work and one of my co-workers asked if it was the Mannheim Steamroller Xmas album.

This comment is so awesome!

girl moves (Abbott), Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:37 (ten years ago) link

I really like the Harmonia album & I voted for it but tbh it's of a genre I call "music without interest." One of those albums that sometimes when I'm listening to it, I think 'I should put on some music' before realizing that some music is already on.

girl moves (Abbott), Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:38 (ten years ago) link

46. Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick (1977) [116 points, 9 votes]

http://i47.tinypic.com/eun0q8.jpg

it's almost perfect. so amazing in every way. the only reason they didn't make it perfect was so that they wouldn't offend God.

― scott seward, Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:51 PM (1 year ago)

I do think the group's debut is in a category all its own. They never really mixed the heavy and the pop in quite the same way.

― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:47 PM (3 years ago)

Bimble is so happy. This band makes me really, really happy.

― Druid-y Witchy (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:15 PM (11 months ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 06:56 (ten years ago) link

Woohoo! Finally something I voted for :)

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 January 2010 08:13 (ten years ago) link

Applause for Harmonia

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 08:40 (ten years ago) link

This poll is starting to look like a major disappointment. We're at #46, and still we've had only 6 albums of soul/funk/jazz/disco, 1 Brazilian album and no reggae, Afro-Cuban music, Afrobeat, etc at all. Even the earlier, supposedly more canonical 70s poll looked better than this one at #46 (with 2 soul albums, 2 reggae albums, 3 jazz albums, 3 disco albums, and 3 funk albums in the top 46-100). Is it possible ILM has become even more rockist in the 5 years between the two polls?

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:32 (ten years ago) link

A poll is a major disappointment if it does not confirm my own good taste.

Euler, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:43 (ten years ago) link

Exactly.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:10 (ten years ago) link

A poll is a major disappointment if it does not confirm Euler's good taste.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:12 (ten years ago) link

I don't know - I don't share Tuomas' tastes at all, but the results of this poll do seem egregiously focused on hoary old rock. So, I demand either some surprises or just for us to switch the poll results to exactly match my ballot, that would be good, yep.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:37 (ten years ago) link

Ach, I'm assuming that the real good stuff is up and coming.

Mostly consisting of each ILXor's top poll choice that had more than one additional vote.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:39 (ten years ago) link

I am feeling a bit bad about how my top 60 had every nominated reggae record I'd heard in and a couple of funk records, but of those only the one I nominated myself and am pretty sure nobody else would have voted for made it to my 40.

Oh no, don't say number 1 vs number 2 in individual polls will make such a major difference, I think any of my top 8 or so could easily have been my #1 on a different day!

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:41 (ten years ago) link

Damn you people for not voting for albums you've never heard!

President Keyes, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:49 (ten years ago) link

Emily OTM. It's not just a question of personal taste, it looks like some genres that were an important part of popular music in the 70s (artistically and/or commercially) are very much underrepresented, whereas the list is dominated by the same old boring rock musicians, only with different albums than in the previous poll.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:43 (ten years ago) link

why don't you make a 70s poll with the genres you are interested in, tuomas? the 70s non-rock, non-pop poll or something. or maybe a general non-pop, non-rock poll. that could be quite interesting.

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:50 (ten years ago) link

I guess I was hoping that "alternate" in the poll title would mean an alternate history the seventies, not just alternate albums by Bowie and Springsteen and The Rolling Stones.

Well, at least a couple of those Kraut albums sound pretty interesting and new to me. Gotta check out Cluster and Harmonia.

(x-post)

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:55 (ten years ago) link

I am kind of wondering what this poll would look like with none of the bands who featured in the first poll. But that would mean no "Autobahn", which would make me unhappy, and also no Al Green, Funkadelic, Parliament, Ornette Coleman, Miles Davis, Stevie Wonder, Curtis Mayfield... so maybe none of us would be happy then.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:03 (ten years ago) link

Basically my 70's knowledge is Punk/Post-Punk and then hoary old rock stuff, so sorry guys.

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:05 (ten years ago) link

been a lot of my picks in the mix lately, Red Headed Stranger, Who's Next (my #1), Armed Forces...am reading the 33 1/3 on the latter at the moment and was just wondering where it would place here.

one of the albums I checked out while working on my ballot was Heaven Tonight, but i didn't quite like it enough to include it. should i be listening to the first Cheap Trick instead?

call me mr. brimstone, i can melt your flesh off (some dude), Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:14 (ten years ago) link

I've been on a Cheap Trick bender the last few days and have gotten a lot more out of In Color and the debut than Heaven Tonight. "Surrender" is a fantastic song but I don't think it sustains the high throughout, while the debut doesn't have massive singles/stand-outs but is consistently Beatletastic.

Euler, Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:17 (ten years ago) link

Armed Forces was my number one. My first and favourite Costello album and also probably my second favourite of the decade.

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:27 (ten years ago) link

should i be listening to the first Cheap Trick instead?

Yes. In Color and Heaven Tonight are both good but aren't anywhere near the debut.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:58 (ten years ago) link

He's a whore from the debut has been in regular rotation for me since I discovered it a couple months ago.

sofatruck, Thursday, 7 January 2010 15:09 (ten years ago) link

There's much in common with the 101-200 in the previous poll. But there's some new things popping it to keep it interesting. Glad to see Harmonia make it. Here's something I wrote about them:

Frustrated with trying to assemble a live band for Neu! shows, Michael Rother visited Cluster's Dieter Moebius and Hans-Joachim Roedelius at their bucolic, woodlands studio home in Forst, Weserbergland in 1973 to ask them to join. He clicked with them so well creatively that he decided to put Neu! on hiatus and stayed. The result was two incredible albums in which they eschewed repetition for a variety of short burts of experimental sounds, including torturing a long-suffering drum machine by putting it through effects and chopping up the rhythms. Brian Eno played keen attention to Music Von Harmonia (1974) before recording Another Green World (1975). Bowie was also a big fan, which was reflected on side two of Low (1977). On Deluxe they let the drum machine alone, recruiting Guru Guru's Mani Neumeier for a more powerful sound. Eno joined them and made some demos that were released 20 years later as Harmonia 76, Tracks And Traces. While it was fascinating stuff, it wasn't nearly great as the two official releases. Live 1974, issued by Water in 2007, offers a rare peak of a live performance of mostly different material, with more of the improvised space rock feel of earlier Cluster. It also, however, lacks the magic of the studio albums.

Those just getting into it can find more via my kosmische/krautrock and reggae lists.

So far there's been nothing from my top 25.

26. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
29. Patti Smith – Horses
31. Van Morrison – Moondance
40. Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:34 (ten years ago) link

My ballot was about 75% rock/pop/folk and 25% jazz/blues/Afrobeat/funk/world/country.

o. nate, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:23 (ten years ago) link

I suspect the 40-place ballot may have actually skewed these results toward the familiar instead of the "alternate," because most of the albums that have placed in the 100 had many middle to low ballot votes and then one or two high ballot votes. If we'd used a 30 or 20 album ballot, though, people would have had to leave even more of their favorites out and would be complaining now that they wish they had more choices when voting. I think smaller ballots could've led to more diverse results, because voters would've felt compelled to champion the more obscure side of their own tastes, but that wasn't the case. Everyone wanted bigger ballots.

This is just my hypothesis about why the list is the way it is, though. I could be totally wrong.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:23 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 44. Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Zuma (1975) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Zuma's where we get our first real glimpse of what "Neil Young" guitar playing would be. Not that he hadn't played plenty of lead guitar beforehand, but Zuma's got those big wind-blown solos that would become his trademark.

― tylerw, Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:41 AM (3 weeks ago)

Is it me or do aspects of Zuma sound as if Neil dusted off his old Beatles records? The La La La's in "Stupid Girl" are an obvious example. But the rest of record, even the longer tunes, is fairly focused and poppy as well. I def think this could be a fave for folks in Dinosaur Jr. and Teenage Fanclub.

― QuantumNoise, Friday, July 4, 2008 3:31 PM (1 year ago)

The best *Crazy Horse* record bar none, even though it'd be tighter if the acoustic outtake cuts weren't mixed in. Some of his other records from the era I feel are better all-around, but this is the one where he fully blends into the backing band and they seem on the verge of world domination every subsequent verse. It really doesn't get any better than "Cortez the Killer," "Danger Bird," and "Barstool Blues." Some of Neil's best singing and guitar playing is on this record.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:16 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:33 (ten years ago) link

There's been plenty of good albums in this list but I think there were a lot more surprises in the 80's list which is odd considering the original idea of this list.

Every time another big name artist (such as Neil Young) features in the list I fear that there's no hope left for most of my more obscure favourites. I can't see Black Devil's Disco Club album being in now, I'm not giving up on Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band though.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:40 (ten years ago) link

I think if the ballot had been smaller people really would have just voted for the big canon favourites. A larger ballot means obscurer stuff can go in high and canon stuff you dont wanna leave out goes in but at the lower end.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:45 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 44. James Brown - The Payback (1973) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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James Brown's 'The Payback' - minimalist hypnotic grooves that are also aggressive about it, a rare thing.

― tarden, Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

James Brown's individual LPs are often a total mess (tho there are some fantastic front-to-back ones, like The Payback).

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:53 AM (2 months ago)

James Brown's The Payback is essential listening for anyone even remotely interested in hardcore rap. it's kinda like late-'80s hip-hop--as conceived some dozen years earlier--in sound (and mood).

― a single man owns you (Ioannis), Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:41 PM (3 months ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:00 (ten years ago) link

there we go

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:06 (ten years ago) link

Again, i voted for a different JB

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:11 (ten years ago) link

Geir will be pleased!

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:17 (ten years ago) link

43. Grateful Dead - American Beauty (1970) [119 points, 9 votes]

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But more than anything I just think [American Beauty] has a few more instances of what Marcello likes to call punctum; those perfect moments in a song that elevate its cognitive/emotional impact. The mandolin line that David Grisman plays behind the chorus on "Ripple" is one such instance. That descending guitar line that emerges on the last chorus of "Sugar Magnolia", right before the "Sunshine dayream" coda. And nothing can top that watery, sighing steel guitar solo that Garcia plays on "Candyman". I mean, that's what master musicians do - conjure moments of beauty like that.

American Beauty just feels fuller, it has more songs, it's easier to melt into.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, April 16, 2004 8:12 PM (5 years ago)

I love the Grateful Dead, especially their Americana period, where they didn't jam at all. American Beauty is one of my favorite records, it really is a great pop album.

― Otis Wheeler, Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

I've heard 10 seconds of American Beauty and about a minute of Workingman's Dead and I can can safely say that they will not be troubling my ears again, unless by accident.

― Dr. C, Monday, July 22, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:27 (ten years ago) link

Freaks and Geeks makes me wish I loved this album.

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I just watched that series for the first time recently, made me feel bad that I'm not a "Dead Head"

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:30 (ten years ago) link

That's the reason I gave it another chance. (Still didn't vote for it here, though.) xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:31 (ten years ago) link

i forgot to vote for american beauty but i'm glad it made it!

psychgawsple, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

42. Amon Düül II - Yeti (1970) [120 points, 12 votes]

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While I would hardly call it "sucky", Amon Duul II's Yeti is blisteringly solid for the first two thirds, then becomes really unfocused and meandering during the last third -- namely the improv tracks "Yeti", "Yeti Talks To Yogi", and "Sandoz In The Rain". That said, that last third of the album is still better than most albums combined, but relative to what preceded it, it almost borders on "sucky" to me, mainly as an album sequencing decision, rather than "sucky" music.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:50 PM (5 years ago)

Parts of Amon Duul II's brilliant sophomore effort "Yeti" can certainly qualify as wank. But you won't hear anybody using that term to describe it. You'll hear "Hypnotic", "freak out", "wild", etc. instead. But John Zorn, for example, seems to be a much easier target for that term.

― Brian MacDonald, Saturday, December 8, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Amon Düül II's Yeti was hopefully the last album I bought based on rave reviews. That is the kind of krautrock which anticipated most of the prog-rock shite of the seventies.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, October 18, 2002 3:21 AM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

why did u pick those posts?

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:46 (ten years ago) link

Believe it or not, there hasn't been much positive talk about Yeti over the years other than people voting for it by name in a Tago Mago vs. Yeti poll.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Well, the comments are kind of right - there is a little too much guitar wankery in places. However, there are some great moments in there too, and I'm glad it made the cut.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:54 (ten years ago) link

A nice surprise...... didn't think it would have rated higher that Cluster or Harmonia though.

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Grown like fungus from a harry, hippie commune, the first incarnation managed one decent album in Paradieswärts Düül. However, it’s the offshoot that produced the most awe-inspiring music, starting with Phallus Dei (1969), translating to “God’s Cock.” Yeti is even better, both heavier (lurching psychedelic guitar freakouts) and prettier (“Sandoz in the Rain”). Dance Of The Lemmings (1971) is more fragmented and contentious. Some think it’s their best, Cope thinks it’s a “pile of pedestrian shit.” I’d say it’s their fifth best and leave it at that. Carnival In Babylon and Wolf City (1972) are much different, with acoustic guitars and slightly more structured songwriting. Some swear by these as their best. Repertoire reissued the first three, remastered with bonus tracks, and Revisited did later albums in similarly lush digipacks.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:59 (ten years ago) link

41. New York Dolls - Too Much Too Soon (1974) [121 points, 4 votes, 2 first place votes]

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First album is pretty much their '72 live show in the studio, second album is the most awesome sound-effects record this side of Van Halen's debut. Among their many accomplishments, the Dolls invented 80s hairspray metal (yes, this was a good thing) and made it cool to be less-than-killer musicians, leading directly to the Ramones (merged with Hamburg-era Beatles) and the Sex Pistols (the Malcolm connection).

― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Friday, June 13, 2003 6:47 AM (6 years ago)

My LP copy of the New York Dolls' Too Much Too Soon has a sticker the original owner stuck on the front. It says 'Hard Rock Is My Candy' in a yummy 70s font. No way would I peel that off!

― Sean (Sean), Sunday, February 1, 2004 5:40 PM (5 years ago)

The debut rocks like everybody's business. But In Too Much Too Soon is even more inclusive than that, popping and rocking with equal amounts of glee. It's the greatest album of the 1970s.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:53 PM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:05 (ten years ago) link

xp i'm not sure if this makes me more or less interested in finally giving Amon Düül a try

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:06 (ten years ago) link

^ our first album with 2 first place votes (and only two others). This album benefited more than any other from ranked balloting. xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

the first incarnation managed one decent album in Paradieswärts Düül. However, it’s the offshoot that produced the most awe-inspiring music

RONG. paradieswarts duul >>> anything amon duul ii ever recorded imo

psychgawsple, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

I've only heard Paradieswärts Düül and Yeti, and I definitely prefer the former.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:15 (ten years ago) link

i had never really listened to anything by the grateful dead until the freaks and geeks finale, myself. i still don't like a whole lot of their stuff, but i really think american beauty is wonderful.

kaygee, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:16 (ten years ago) link

it just needs a small cabal of challops and bam hello top 50 :P

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I just can't tolerate jammy Dead at all, but I really do like the American Beauty/Workingman's Dead twofer. xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

the fact that Freaks & Geeks made at least 4 people on this board want to get into the Grateful Dead is kinda bizarre imo

some dude, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

It was a good scene.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

(I'd kind of semi-liked it before, but the show urged me to go back and appreciate it with fresh ears.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:20 (ten years ago) link

I voted for Europe 72 instead, which won't make the poll; if you love the song-y side of the Dead, Europe 72 is a great gateway into the jammier stuff (as are 1972 shows in general).

Euler, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:21 (ten years ago) link

i was about to extoll the virtues of aoxomoxoa and anthem of the sun but then i realized they came out in the 60s

psychgawsple, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:24 (ten years ago) link

Out of all the records I've not yet heard from the list, that Dolls album has the most persuasive blurbs.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:24 (ten years ago) link

tbh i don't think the freaks and geeks connection is that weird. jammy dead gives people a pretty negative feeling about them, so a lot of people aren't likely to hear anything else without some easy entry point like a semi-popular tv show.

kaygee, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

40. Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs (1970) [121 points, 9 votes]

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I was in a serious relationship with a girl who I found out couldn't bear Syd Barrett. My friend and I were getting high listening to The Madcap Laughs and she kept whining until we put something else on. Things got less serious after that.

― Hubert Jarrod, Friday, January 14, 2005 12:43 PM (4 years ago)

Okay well I played Syd Barrett's "The Madcap Laughs" some weeks ago and there is that song "Late Night" and I recognized it immediately and it took me forever to figure out who covered that but I realize now it's on This Mortal Coil's Blood isn't it??? Which means I'm going to have to go through the chore of digging through my giant box of cassettes for This Mortal Coil's Blood album. ARRGh.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:54 AM (3 years ago)

The Madcap Laughs hands down is one of the greatest things there ever could be. The only Syd Floyd songs that approach it are "Lucifer Sam" and "Bike." The casualness, the wit, the drop dead three song sequence from "Here I Go" through "Golden Hair," and the perfect closer "Late Night" (plus sundry other delights too particular to share) make it, for what it's worth, my all time favorite psych album.

― otto, Tuesday, December 2, 2003 11:45 AM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:34 (ten years ago) link

glad to see Amon Duul II get in woohoo
Love the Syd album and the NY Dolls but they got culled to make 40.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:35 (ten years ago) link

39. Funkadelic - Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow (1970) [124 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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I got this Funkadelic album, "Free Your Mind," and let me tell you, that is one fucked up album. Seriously one of the more psychedelic things I've heard.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, February 8, 2006 8:59 PM (3 years ago)

"Free Your Mind..." was the first Funkadelic album I ever heard, and since it was a taped copy I assumed all the fucked-up sound was a result of low-quality dubbing. Only after I got the CD did I realize how brain-meltingly great the whole thing was, I couldn't imagine anyone deliberately making a record so jarring and sprawling. As such, I rank it really highly, it definitely opened up my head a bit.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:38 PM (4 years ago)

Re Funkadelic as black prog - absolutely. The early records in particular are as avant garde as popular music gets. The sound collages and tape manipulation of Free Your Mind spring to mind. And they have badass grooves too - something that can't be said of ELP or Yes. Funkadelic still sounds like they're beamed from a funky, sexy future, most prog, even the decent stuff, sounds dated.

― stew, Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:06 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

Nice run building here....... we'll probably get Queen next or something.

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

Yay for Funkadelic, but it's beginning to look like they'll be the only funk band that made this list (besides James Brown). I'm still hoping that by some miracle The Meters are in the top 40.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:00 (ten years ago) link

actually would have voted for the Meters had I thought about it/noticed it as I quickly went through the nominations list an hour before deadline.

moron oil (Gukbe), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Sadly, the Meters will probably will suffer from split votes.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

All other things held constant, Too Much Too Soon still would have made the top half of this poll without my vote.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

I like "The Madcap Laughs" but I vote for "Barrett" because it is so quiet and sad.

girl moves (Abbott), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

38. Miles Davis - Get Up With It (1974) [124 points, 12 votes]

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It's Miles at his bleakest and most prog, with three of the greatest unsung guitarists in jazz/rock history and some flute solos not to be believed. Incredibly funky, incredibly sad, freaky beyond belief. Lester Bangs, among others, thought this was scarier than Metal Machine Music--I disagree though. It's just great.

― Matt C., Saturday, December 14, 2002 3:55 PM (7 years ago)

I've always found the idea that Miles electric music represents a sell-out to a rock audience absurd. Particularly stuff like Dark Magus and Get Up With It, which is just insane (and utter genius of course). It's like that bit in the Dylan documentary where some folkie leaving an incredible gig whines about Bob making pop music and some young hep cat cuts in saying, 'Not much pop music that sounds like *that*'.

― Stew, Wednesday, October 7, 2009 3:34 PM (3 months ago)

Is there any 'story' behind the title of 'He Loved Him Madly' by Miles Davis? It's an astonishing piece of music, but I was wondering if there is any kind of narrative association with the title - who loved whom madly?

― M Carty (mj_c), Friday, January 23, 2004 6:34 AM (5 years ago)

The title (according to one of the Miles books cluttering my house) comes from a Christmas card Davis got from Duke in the summer. It was signed "Love you madly." Ellington was sending out Christmas cards to friends in the summer because he wasn't expecting to see Christmas. So when he did die, Miles gave the piece that title.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, January 23, 2004 9:52 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:05 (ten years ago) link

Yay for Funkadelic, but it's beginning to look like they'll be the only funk band that made this list (besides James Brown). I'm still hoping that by some miracle The Meters are in the top 40.

― Tuomas, Thursday, January 7, 2010 8:00 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Rejuvination was pretty low down in my list I'm afraid, I don't suppose you voted for any of the Commodores albums?

At least we know that Curtis will have a good shot at winning this poll.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:08 (ten years ago) link

Rejuvenation was pretty low on my list too, I did put Fire on the Bayou higher though. I love how inclusive and varied that album sounds, but I assume most funk purists prefer the preceding albums over FotB. I love "Machine Gun" (the song), but other than that my knowledge of The Commodores is sadly limited.

Oh man, if Curtis would win the poll, that would be sweet, but it sounds too good to be true. I'll be happy if it makes the top 20.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:13 (ten years ago) link

yay Get Up With It, good job! my #6 vote. on certain days you need nothing else though

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:15 (ten years ago) link

i voted 4 crutis 2

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:21 (ten years ago) link

Those are easily my two favourite Meters albums. I never really got into the early albums as much.

I'd really recommend getting any of the early Commodores albums if you ever see them cheap. Machine Gun or Zoom (also known as The Commodores) are the two best. Zoom was in my top 10.

I thought Curtis might have a couple in the list I voted for the debut and There's No Place Like America today.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:22 (ten years ago) link

Fuck yes Funkadelic. I just Wish Standing On The Verge... was gonna place but I cant see 3 albums making it.

Curtis should be top 20. Hope it's top 10.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:22 (ten years ago) link

37. This Heat - This Heat (1979) [125 points, 10 votes]

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The first album is terrific - tape loop experimentation linked in with rock sounds etc - although the murky production and/or mastering lets it down.

― philT, Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

This Heat certainly had things in common with [Can and Pere Ubu] - an attempt to marry songs with improv/experimental moves, an interest in African drumming, the mixture of guitars and synths, etc. I know that a lot of people find Hayward's sub-R. Wyatt singing something of an 'acquired taste' and yes, the politicing can be a bit obv., but I remain a big fan, perhaps because This Heat were a 'gateway' group for me - played on Peel during punk, but (like Wire) also suggesting other approaches/ideas, a way out of the punk orthodoxy.

― Andrew L, Monday, June 18, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:23 (ten years ago) link

x-p
i think curtis was the only soul/funk album in my ballot and it was pretty high too. it should at least make the top ten, i guess.

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (ten years ago) link

36. T.Rex - The Slider (1972) [127 points, 13 votes]

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Slider. Slider. Slider. Always felt that Warrior had more recognition because it had the hits--"Jeepster," and "Bang a Gong"--which are both slight and annoying. "Mambo Sun" and "Cosmic Dancer" are all-time greats, sure, but Slider never lets up. It's better than almost anything you'd care to throw at it.

― Michael Train, Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:28 PM (5 months ago)

And Slider will break your heart repeatedly. Where does EW ever do that? (With My Les Paul...I may be small, but I enjoy living anyway....) And, if nothing else, Slider is a vastly better title.

― Michael Train, Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:36 PM (5 months ago)

I feel compelled to play The Slider several times a year, while Electric Warrior's not even an annual thing.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:26 PM (5 months ago)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:51 (ten years ago) link

35 more to go.

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]
78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]
77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]
76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]
75. ABBA - Arrival (1976) [93 points, 8 votes]
74. David Bowie - Lodger (1979) [93 points, 12 votes]
73. Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974) [93 points, 14 votes]
72. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978) [94 points, 12 votes]
71. The Rolling Stones - Some Girls (1978) [95 points, 13 votes]
70. Neil Young - Harvest (1972) [96 points, 9 votes]
69. Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) [96 points, 12 votes]
68. Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974) [97 points, 10 votes]
67. Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979) [98 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 65. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [99 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 65. Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (1974) [99 points, 9 votes]
64. The Pop Group - Y (1979) [99 points, 10 votes]
63. Al Green - The Belle Album (1977) [100 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975) [100 points, 9 votes]
61. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (1971) [100 points, 11 votes]
60. Various Artists - No New York (1978) [101 points, 10 votes]
59. The Specials - The Specials (1979) [102 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
58. John Cale - Fear (1974) [104 points, 11 votes]
57. Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson (1971) [106 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
56. King Crimson - Red (1974) [109 points, 12 votes]
55. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports (1978) [110 points, 12 votes]
54. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove (1978) [110 points, 13 votes]
53. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns (1975) [111 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger (1975) [111 points, 12 votes]
51. Van Morrison - Moondance (1970) [111 points, 13 votes]
(Tie) 49. The Who - Who's Next (1971) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 49. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Armed Forces (1979) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
48. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane (1973) [113 points, 11 votes]
47. Harmonia - Musik von Harmonia (1974) [113 points, 13 votes]
46. Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick (1977) [116 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 44. Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Zuma (1975) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 44. James Brown - The Payback (1973) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
43. Grateful Dead - American Beauty (1970) [119 points, 9 votes]
42. Amon Düül II - Yeti (1970) [120 points, 12 votes]
41. New York Dolls - Too Much Too Soon (1974) [121 points, 4 votes, 2 first place votes]
40. Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs (1970) [121 points, 9 votes]
39. Funkadelic - Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow (1970) [124 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
38. Miles Davis - Get Up With It (1974) [124 points, 12 votes]
37. This Heat - This Heat (1979) [125 points, 10 votes]
36. T.Rex - The Slider (1972) [127 points, 13 votes]

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:56 (ten years ago) link

Thank ya Mr. Fever!

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/johnnyfever.gif

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:01 (ten years ago) link

There still may not be as much representation of certain genres as some people would like, but I think the last 20 or so present a really diverse collection of '70s choons, regardless of how familiar or unfamiliar they may be. Sure, ilxors are the type folks who could pull off a Harmonia album and put on James Brown, but regular folks probably wouldn't own either one.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:05 (ten years ago) link

Bottom third of this poll > middle third of this poll.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:06 (ten years ago) link

Fuck yes, I voted for This Heat & wld have been so sad if they didn't place.

girl moves (Abbott), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:08 (ten years ago) link

me 2

sleeve, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:13 (ten years ago) link

me 3

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:21 (ten years ago) link

not me -1

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (ten years ago) link

me 4. it was my #4

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (ten years ago) link

I can only imagine the contortions Tuomas's face would go into while listening to the This Heat album.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:24 (ten years ago) link

i didn't but i probably should have.

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:24 (ten years ago) link

i have some this heat but not a whole album! it's pretty decent stuff. can we have some more prog now plz. still only one of mine here and it's one i voted for with tactics rather than heartfelt desire in mind

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:27 (ten years ago) link

me 5sies

psychgawsple, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:28 (ten years ago) link

any more today?

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Maybe after the football game tonight, but right now I'm getting ready to cook up some burgers on the grill!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:40 (ten years ago) link

I take it you aren't in the middle of a blizzard then.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:41 (ten years ago) link

I'm in Florida (where it's colder than normal, but not snowing at least).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:42 (ten years ago) link

bon appétit!

I didn't think about this much while deciding on my votes, but my ballot breaks down like this, category-wise (and my sense of categories here is shaped by discussion in this thread, so I haven't subdivided pop/rock much except to pull out prog into its own category):

2 funk
1 jazz
5 modern classical (only Music for Airports, which has the most marginal membership in this category, has made it in, and I doubt the rest will appear as high as top 35%)
6 prog
23 rock/pop (one with notable prog tendencies)
3 soul

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:46 (ten years ago) link

(one with notable prog tendencies)

Secondhand Daylight? :D

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:48 (ten years ago) link

or Rock Bottom? :D

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:48 (ten years ago) link

This Heat was my #3

girl moves (Abbott), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:49 (ten years ago) link

xp
I counted one of those two as flat-out prog

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:49 (ten years ago) link

Rock Bottom has no chance of not making this AFAIC.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

woooooooo great album

Soft Machine - Third is better obv but who has the patience for a 4-track 75-minute album I ask ya ;-)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:53 (ten years ago) link

mine is like

usa disco/soul/funk 19 [4 placed so far]
modern classical 3 (assuming we're talking p glass/reich)
fela 4
brazil 4
rock 5 [1 so far]

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:55 (ten years ago) link

Cool stuff. 12 of mine are here so far, all the boring rock ones. I suck.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 January 2010 22:12 (ten years ago) link

only 5 for 40 so far, maybe my ballot was less conventional than i thought, or else ilx is less conventional than people are complaining about

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:02 (ten years ago) link

(hatches an almost plausible plan to tell Tuomas that This Heat - "24 Track Loop" was an MTV jungle ident in the mid-90s)
(PS for Tuomas: it was not. at least as far as I know it was not. it is about as close as any Britisher art school types got in the 70s, though)

I kind of thought that Yeti must have a lower score-per-vote than the Cluster or Harmonia albums, but in fact the opposite is true - they have more votes, lower scores. Which is weird to me because when I first got into krauty things Yeti was almost canonical and Cluster/Harmonia were never mentioned, but to me Yeti is pretty patchy and MvH or Zuckerzeit are almost perfect all the way through. But there is no denying "Eye-Shaking King" or "Archangels Thunderbird", so I voted for all three.

Thank you Mr Fever! Digging this so far, looking forward to the rest.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:12 (ten years ago) link

I have been streaming tracks from some of the more unfamiliar albums on grooveshark: Musik von Harmonia, This Heat among others. A poll like this is good for kickstarting explorations into one's musical blindspots if nothing else.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:12 (ten years ago) link

I deliberately didn't try to have quotas - I just tried to honestly pick my favourite 40 records from the list, with the one artist, one album proviso. Looks like I picked 30 Rock/ Pop/ Folk records, 7 soul/ funk, 2 reggae and 1 Brazilian. This doesn't reflect the proportions in my collection, which takes up 7 shelves each with about 350 records: 3 are soul/ RnB/ Hip hop and jazz, 1 is Irish folk, Blues and Latin, 'Easy' and Library and maybe 3 are Rock/ Pop. So is it just that one kind of music fits the album template better?

sonofstan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:19 (ten years ago) link

I kind of thought that Yeti must have a lower score-per-vote than the Cluster or Harmonia albums, but in fact the opposite is true - they have more votes, lower scores. Which is weird to me because when I first got into krauty things Yeti was almost canonical and Cluster/Harmonia were never mentioned

this is weird b.c i wud hav said the xact opposite, but maybe i got into krauty stuff via the more electronic and enoish end

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:27 (ten years ago) link

In my mind, krautrock has always had an electronic component that Yeti doesn't have. I don't even really know how to classify Yeti other than "German," because I definitely don't group it in with the likes of Kraftwerk, Cluster, Neu! or whoever else.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

(xpost) I think this just means that I am old tbh, in the 90s Harmonia and Cluster were almost forgotten, or at least I read a lot of "hey guyz dig this weird 70s German music" articles about Can or Neu! or maybe Faust if you were lucky that never mentioned them, but yeah

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:34 (ten years ago) link

In other Yeti news, I would like to point out that the new vinyl reissue restores "Pale Gallery" to its original 6-minute length for the first time in a long time.

Does anyone know what was going on with the Mystic + Voiceprint + Repertoire Amon Duul 2 CDs?

and that record is solid gold all the way through, boo to whoever dissed those improvs upthread.

sleeve, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Ooh, This Heat! I remember taping their debut Peel session on the night it first aired. Incidentally, Charles Hayward guests on a few tracks on the forthcoming (and excellent) Hot Chip album.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 January 2010 00:32 (ten years ago) link

whoah that is great news!!!

the THis HEat Peel Sessions are imo better than the regular LP versions and are available on a CD called Made Available.

sleeve, Friday, 8 January 2010 00:35 (ten years ago) link

35. Tim Buckley - Starsailor (1970) [127 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

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The third greatest record ever made. Deathless. Abused. Misunderstood. Misaccepted. Screaming to seduction. Leon Thomas weds Cathy Berberian.

Gender mirror image of this record: "I'm The One" by Annette Peacock.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:23 AM (7 years ago)

The greatest possible thing to come out of fusion, or the worst possible thing to come out of folk?

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:15 AM (7 years ago)

Ok. The story goes a folkie that starts to get a little jazz mixed into the system (see Lorica) takes it completely into another realm that It's All Over Now, Baby Blue or Puff The Magic Dragon wouldn't dare think of. More IMO a free jazz psychedelia record than folk. This is the one that people either seem to think of Buckley as a musical genius or a total dud. Its weird how some of the folks I know who consider themselves to be huge fans have never or are afraid to listen to this record.

― brg30 (brg30), Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:23 PM (7 years ago)

Be very careful if you listen to Starsailor on acid. Seriously.

― Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:59 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:10 (ten years ago) link

34. Funkadelic - Standing on the Verge of Getting it On (1974) [128 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Locked in a mortal battle with America... for my favorite first-half-of-the-'70s P-Funk effort. Comparable to Maggot Brain in that the first 2/3 are brilliant ("I'll Stay" is devastating; the title track is one of their best dance songs; "Alice In My Fantasies" is in their hard rock top 3), but it has a better ending ("Jimmy's Got A Little Bit of Bitch In Him" is a hoot and "Good Thoughts, Bad Thoughts" is as good as one could hope from a "Maggot Brain" reprise with psych-religious lyrics).

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:02 AM (4 years ago)

You've got your heavy-ass guitar shit, your weirdo psych-babble, your funkier groove stuff...it's a pretty nice precis of the early-mid Funkadelic sound.

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, October 25, 2004 7:42 PM (5 years ago)

Standing on the Verge - its kinda the apex of their tighter "rock" period (lolz thx Ron Bykowski) and it doesn't have a weak track on it.

― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:26 PM (3 months ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:23 (ten years ago) link

I haven't heard that album. I need to!

The Reverend, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:29 (ten years ago) link

I haven't either. In fact, my exposure to Funkadelic consists only of Maggot Brain and Free Your Mind. It's long past time for me to be investigating further.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:31 (ten years ago) link

its good rev, way better than maggot brain imo.

where's all the parliament? or was it all buried in the orig 100?

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 January 2010 07:32 (ten years ago) link

STARSAILOR #1

een, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:41 (ten years ago) link

better than maggot brain!

mothership and funkentelechy (along w/ maggot brain) made the og poll. don't see other parliament albums placing at this point

The Reverend, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:45 (ten years ago) link

33. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run (1975) [128 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]

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I fucking love Born to Run to death....the fuckin' break into "at nite we sweat it out on the streets of a runaway american dream"....fuck yeah it's over the top drama queen theatrics and god bless it....it's one of those songs i instantly loved as a child when i heard it.....it made things seem bigger and more important than they really were.....Coldplay's "Clocks" is prolly like that for little kids now.

I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, January 4, 2005 7:16 PM (5 years ago)

"At night we ride through mansions of glory in suicide machines" gives me goose pimples, for real. And since I've given up the ghost of boring anti-bombast punk purism (a phase which lasted me more or less the couple months in 1994 between hearing Ramones for the first time and hearing London Calling for the first time), I've come to appreciate how well-structured the track is, going beyond just verse-chorus-verse to a perfectly-contained mini-rock-opera that stays completely focused and builds to a completely immaculate peak (the one around the 3-minute-mark, right before the "1-2-3-4/the highway's jammed with broken heroes..."). 9 times out of 10 this personally, for me, beats some snotty kid plonking on the same chords for 2:30, muttering about boredom. Beats it with a tire iron.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, January 4, 2005 7:56 PM (5 years ago)

I hadn't listened to this record in a couple of years, but god, it still sounded great. Actually, I kept getting shivers down my spine when it was playing and it had me close to tears a few times (mostly on "Thunder Road" and "Backstreets.") Listening to this today finally settled an ILM debate for me: Music can never affect me quite as much now as it did when I was a teenager. No record I've heard in the last few years, including Loveless, has had as much affect on me as Born to Run did this morning, and I know it's not just because Born to Run is such a great album. This is a record that got to me when I was young and emotionally vulnerable in a way that I'm not anymore, at the age of 32. I still feel music very deeply and appreciate and enjoy a wider range of music than ever, but music doesn’t completely overpower me the way it did when I was 15. Oh well.

Springsteen is still a big classic, by the way, despite all the incredibly corny lines on Born to Run.

― Mark, Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:52 (ten years ago) link

That sleeve, I always thought it was some incredibly fat guy he was leaning on (i.e. facing against Bruce)

Mark G, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:56 (ten years ago) link

haha

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:57 (ten years ago) link

The breakdown of my ballot is something like this:

American soul/R&B 9
Jazz 12
Funk 3
African funk/soul 3
Brazilian pop & jazz 8
Disco 3
Afro-Cuban 1
Folk 1

So far Sextant is the only album in my ballot that has showed up. (I would've voted for C'est Chic though, but somehow I missed it on the nomination list.) It's beginning to look like only one or two more will place... :(

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:58 (ten years ago) link

mothership and funkentelechy (along w/ maggot brain) made the og poll. don't see other parliament albums placing at this point.

Isn't Chocolate City considered to be the second best Parliament album after Mothership Connection? Though I guess ILX prefers Funkadelic over Parliament, so CC won't probably have a chance anymore.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:01 (ten years ago) link

32. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby (1970) [128 points, 14 votes]

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"Lick My Decals Off, Baby" is my favorite Beefheart record. I think it's the most fully-realized concept, and the band is tighter than a mosquito's ass. "Trout Mask" is wilder, but "Decals" is denser and more focused, while retaining the more wacked out rhythmic ideas of its predecessor. "Doctor Dark," the title track, and "I Wanna Find a Woman Who'll Hold My Big Toe Until I Have to Go" are just tremendous.

Plus, I like the marimba.

― J, Saturday, April 20, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

'lick my decals' is most often described as beefheart's best album by people who actually listen to beefheart. but yeah 'trout mask' is usually the one that shows up on the 100 best-of-all-time lists, which is really confusing as it is staggeringly hostile listening. I'm assuming it just gets bonus points for being one of the most single handedly bizarre records to have been released on a major label up to that point in history -- so it left a deeper mark. 'lick my decals' sounded normal in comparison once it came out a year later...

I'd tell anyone to start with 'decals' over 'trout mask'.

― jl, Monday, April 7, 2003 8:22 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:12 (ten years ago) link

I wouldn't. Do you lower yourself slowly into a plunge pool?

Mark G, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:22 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if i really have an explanation for why born to run is my favorite boss album (and my number 1). it just hits me really hard. all those cheesy lines about cars and whatever feel so important and so urgent, and it emotionally moves me more than perhaps any other single album. thunder road is easily one of my favorite songs.

kaygee, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:28 (ten years ago) link

It's only cheesy because loads of people have done it since, but few did it since Chuck Berry till then.

(Not a Bruce fan at all, btw)

Mark G, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:33 (ten years ago) link

31. The Cars - The Cars (1978) [131 points, 13 votes]

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The Cars were very important, if only because they were the first "new wave" band to be embraced by American AOR/classic-rock radio. They were sort of a "gateway drug" for millions AOR/classic- rock fans trapped in the suburbs with nothing but mainstream media for company, not to mention the fact that they subsequently influenced AOR/classic-rock artists themselves. Listen to the mid- '80s recordings of a band like, say, .38 Special. Hear all those clicky, compressed 8th-note rhythm guitar parts? Where do you think a bunch of reconstructed second-string Southern-boogie hair farmers came up with something like that?

― Lee G, Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

"Just What I Needed" has been my least favourite track off the debut since, oh, 1980; but through no fault of The Cars. Rather, blame it on a cover band featuring a friend's older brother on drums. She and I sat in their basement one afternoon for hours and listened to her brother's band attempt "Just What I Needed" 92 times, only to be thwarted every time by the idiot vocalist who apparently had no concept of rhythm, 'cause he'd start singing "...Wasting all my time" a beat too early - EVERY time! Kinda ruined the song for us all, for all time.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, November 28, 2005 12:42 PM (4 years ago)

there are moments when i think that the cars are one of the more unjustly neglected new wave acts out there. if anything, i think that they're due for a re-evaluation by the corny indie fuXors community any day now.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, November 15, 2004 1:23 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:35 (ten years ago) link

A-little-embarrassed-but-hell-not-really is the best way to communicate your enthusiasm for music. Those 'Born To Run' comments are fantastic!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 08:52 (ten years ago) link

Oh yeah, I wish I had commentary like that available for ALL of these albums.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:00 (ten years ago) link

Strange thing: lot of records so far from 1970, including a few I was honestly surprised to find out came out in the 70s

Cosmo's Factory
Live at Leeds
Moondance
American Beauty
Yeti
Madcap Laughs
Free Your Mind...
Starsailor
Lick My Decals

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:31 (ten years ago) link

Madcap Laughs just squeaked in btw. I think it was released the first week of Janurary, 1970.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:46 (ten years ago) link

or January, even.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:47 (ten years ago) link

It's a cover of Pilot's "January" by Scooby Doo

an executive by day and a wild man by night (snoball), Friday, 8 January 2010 09:49 (ten years ago) link

I gotta say, as an ILM johnny come lately, I've been lurking on this poll and I'm very suprised that the stuff in it wasnt already canonical, in many cases. I havent seen the original poll, but this one seems ... more ILM?

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Friday, 8 January 2010 09:50 (ten years ago) link

Good albums in the first poll for certain, but (for me) it contained more stuff I say I like, and this one contains more stuff I actually like and listen to regularly.

Original poll results here: ILX 70s album poll - results

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:54 (ten years ago) link

Well now that I look back at the original poll results, that's not entirely true. I listen to gobs of those albums regularly too. The 70s were really just an embarrassing chest of riches as far as music goes, especially considering how much we've still managed to leave out.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 09:56 (ten years ago) link

Aha, thanks for the link! Good to see Low way up in the list (just heard it for the first time recently and was blown away).

I guess a whole decade is impossible to nail down, as much as ILM loves to try!

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Friday, 8 January 2010 10:20 (ten years ago) link

Fever, do you ever actually sleep?

Good job on all this!

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 12:06 (ten years ago) link

I guess a whole decade is impossible to nail down, as much as ILM loves to try!

Yeah, I feel like it's easier to break the decade in half-- with 70-74 as the tail-end of the '60s, where Country Rock, Prog, Soul, Free Jazz and Hard Rock continued along roads forged from 65-69 (of course with things like Krautrock, Roxy, Stooges, reggae, funk pointing toward the future)--and the 2nd half dominated by punk, disco, new wave, early hip-hop, metal (setting the stage for the 1st half of the 80s.)

President Keyes, Friday, 8 January 2010 12:15 (ten years ago) link

Isn't Chocolate City considered to be the second best Parliament album after Mothership Connection? Though I guess ILX prefers Funkadelic over Parliament, so CC won't probably have a chance anymore.

― Tuomas, Friday, January 8, 2010 2:01 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

choc city was down ballot for me, motor booty affair was top 5

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2010 12:39 (ten years ago) link

yay standing on the verge made it, that was my no1. (no. its not better than Maggot Brain, on a par yes, its an Eddie Hazel album, he wrote most of it, so it's the eddie fans fave, Tuomas will hate it)

Maybe Parliament - Osmium will place? (nah sadly it wont)

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 13:29 (ten years ago) link

Funkentelechy is regarded as the best after Mothership btw.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 13:29 (ten years ago) link

funkentelechy is my all-time favorite album of any decade

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2010 14:07 (ten years ago) link

I've been such a huge fan of Funkadelic for a long time, but I neglected them in my ballot. I guess I took 'em for granted, especially after a 5 hour (not kidding) P-Funk performance in '96 wrung me out to the point where I couldn't listen to them for about a decade. Nice to see them represented though. This was the first thing I wrote for my site: Funkadelic: The Afro-Alien Diaspora. Repeat after Bootsy: I pledge allegiance to the funk, the whole funk,and nothing but the funk, so help me James, Sly and George, Amen!"

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:42 (ten years ago) link

I voted for Chocolate City tbh

Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:54 (ten years ago) link

and me....so maybe it'll show up

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:57 (ten years ago) link

Chocolate City was pretty much an obscure Parliament album until last year when people took notice for a reason I cant think of....
Its always been my 3rd fave though , if you can be arsed searching through ILM you will see me saying it years ago. I recommend CC thoroughly.

xp

Clones might make it. It's their pop album and is great too

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 14:59 (ten years ago) link

Chocolate City got my vote too, it's my third favourite after the two in the first 70's list.

It's strange that I own nine Funkadelic albums from the 70's and out of the three I'm missing two of them are in this poll.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 15:23 (ten years ago) link

"Chocolate City was pretty much an obscure Parliament album until last year when people took notice for a reason I cant think of...."

They still call it the White House
But that's a temporary condition, too.

Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Friday, 8 January 2010 16:16 (ten years ago) link

Check out the deluxe version of The Cars. Disc 2 has demos of They Won't See You, Take What You Want, Wake Me Up and You Just Can't Push Me that are full of progtastic guitar solos.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 16:33 (ten years ago) link

The breakdown of my ballot is something like this:

American soul/R&B 9
Jazz 12
Funk 3
African funk/soul 3
Brazilian pop & jazz 8
Disco 3
Afro-Cuban 1
Folk 1

Why does Finns never want to rock? :-(

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Ha, well the breakdown of my admittedly curtailed ballot:

Prog 10
Jazz-prog 1
Southern rock 2
Proggy art-pop 2
Krautrock 1
Brit post-punk 7
Spoken-word comedy with song 1

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 16:43 (ten years ago) link

(Several of my "prog" votes are really "proggy art-pop", if you make that distinction.)

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 8 January 2010 16:52 (ten years ago) link

I tried to count up my genres, but got stuck on where to categorise too many of them. I can tell you that there are 11 krautrock records (and at least another 4 records with Germans on).

emil.y, Friday, 8 January 2010 16:59 (ten years ago) link

Several of my Brit post-punks are proggy art-pop! :D

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:01 (ten years ago) link

(Specialist aside: Was there any Afro-Cuban music on the nominations list? Everything I nominated was Puerto Rican or NuYorican salsa, which may build on an Afro-Cuban base, but I resent the idea that Puerto Rican salsa somehow reduces to "Afro-Cuban." It has its own distinctive sound.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:09 (ten years ago) link

"Chocolate City was pretty much an obscure Parliament album until last year when people took notice for a reason I cant think of...."

"...it's time. It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild a New Orleans, the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans. And I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day." New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, January 16, 2006

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:17 (ten years ago) link

30. Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story (1971) [140 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Every Picture was the FutureSex/LoveSounds of its day, people! (where jeff beck = timbaland lol)

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, December 6, 2009 11:56 PM

The bass playing on "Maggie May" is sooo bad, so show-offy, so obviously played by a guitarist who thinks bass playing is "easy", that it puts me off the song completely. A shame, because I agree that Rod had some great stuff in this era.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, November 15, 2004 6:41 AM (5 years ago)

I really like this song, but reading the comments about the drumming, I'm just like WTF? Part of the reason I've always liked this song is that the drumming sounds so amateurish. It sounds like something I could play, including all the fills, and I'm a terrible drummer. Is this a case of something sounding easy but being really hard, or is his drumming better on other songs, or am I just wrong?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, November 15, 2004 11:06 AM (5 years ago)

so what we've established is that "maggie mae" is punk rock.

― amateur!!st, Monday, November 15, 2004 2:23 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:48 (ten years ago) link

I'm currently answering an email from someone who wrote to my site demanding to know why I don't like Zappa. I don't hate him, just think he really needed to pare down the wankery. Anyone voted some Zappa?

My breakdown -- this has a lot to do with the initial poll featuring most of my soul, punk and post-punk, but neglecting reggae.

18 reggae
4 post-punk
3 pre-punk
3 kosmische
3 avant rock
2 soul
2 jazz fusion
1 punk
1 afrobeat
1 glam
1 brazilian
1 classic rock

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:48 (ten years ago) link

i had totally given up on Lick My Decals Off, Baby placing after the first fifteen or so were posted. did not expect to see it at 32! underrated and underplayed record for sure.

an attempt at a genre breakdown:

kraut 8
non german prog rock 9
jazz 8
folk 4
straight up pop and/or rock 9
modern classical 1
adult jazz-rock 1

sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:53 (ten years ago) link

hey i'm up to 7 of 40 now w/ zuma, the cars, born to run

still holding out hope for my #1, i think it's got a good chance, but i think i may have to give up on Rush and The Soft Boys at this point

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:54 (ten years ago) link

I have three Zappas on my ballot, including a top-5.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:59 (ten years ago) link

my list was like 27 rock/pop, 8 prog, 2 electronic, 2 folk, 1 fusion. i'm such a rockist...

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:00 (ten years ago) link

classic rock 23 (YEAHHHHH MOTHERFUCKERS I'M PART OF THE PROBLEM)
funk/soul 7
new wave 5
punk 2
comedy 1
country 1
jazz 1

some dude, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:01 (ten years ago) link

Fear Of Music has to be coming soon, right? ILM can't be crazy enough to put Remain In Light at the top of one decade's poll and then miss its predecessor twice, can it?

some dude, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:02 (ten years ago) link

I like how 'Brazilian' just is a genre now.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:03 (ten years ago) link

if u classify it as "MPB", it kinda is!

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:06 (ten years ago) link

29. Fela Kuti & Afrika 70 - Zombie (1977) [141 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

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NOTE: I couldn't find posts of any substance regarding Zombie. Most Fela Kuti threads just seem to consist of people asking what album they should begin with, and several people suggest Zombie.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:08 (ten years ago) link

lmao

some dude, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:09 (ten years ago) link

Glad to see Fela make it! Not the album I chose (went with He Miss Road) but it's not like there are bad Fela albums in the 70s.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:17 (ten years ago) link

28. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti (1975) [146 points, 14 votes]

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I always feel like the first disc is super-unified, and if it stood alone would be LZ's greatest album, but the second disc is kinda thrown-together, "here's a whole bunch more songs we had kicking around." They're good songs, but they're not an album the way the first disc is an album.

― unperson, Monday, July 9, 2007 4:50 PM (2 years ago)

you know, I hear you kinda, unperson, insofar as if the second disc had been released as a single album it might have tanked, but on the other hand it's sort their "experimental" side - drums dropping in & out, some weird transitional stuff - it's like the more Album Rock album to me, allowing itself to be weird 'cause they've already proven themselves on the first disc. Also, "the Wanton Song" is massively underrated.

― J0hn D., Monday, July 9, 2007 5:02 PM (2 years ago)

Zeppelin were never heavier and more assured. Many of Physcial's songs are truly great - "Kashmir", "Ten Years Gone", "In My Time..." etc. Sure the album has one or two filler tracks, but it's hardly one of those doubles which would have made a killer single album with x tracks omitted.

― -the-night-watch- (-the-night-watch-), Friday, February 18, 2005 10:03 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:23 (ten years ago) link

Not "In Through the Out Door"?????

girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Not "In Through the Out Door"?????

They both made my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:27 (ten years ago) link

thought about voting for it, but threw underdog votes to Presence and In Through The Out Door instead. there are lots of great classic rock double albums that don't suffer from double album syndrome, but that one just doesn't hold together for me.

some dude, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Glad The Song Remains The Same hasn't made it...yet...

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:28 (ten years ago) link

the first of my top 10 to place! my favorite zeppelin album, it's astonishingly close to the mythical fillerless double album. shame about 'black country woman'...

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:30 (ten years ago) link

(Specialist aside: Was there any Afro-Cuban music on the nominations list? Everything I nominated was Puerto Rican or NuYorican salsa, which may build on an Afro-Cuban base, but I resent the idea that Puerto Rican salsa somehow reduces to "Afro-Cuban." It has its own distinctive sound.)

My one "Afro-Cuban" vote was for Afro-Indio by Mongo Santamaría. I'm not sure how to label it, it's a fusion of a lot of things, sorry if "Afro-Cuban" is a misleading category for Mongo.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:31 (ten years ago) link

(x-post)

Yay, Fela made it after all! I didn't vote for Zombie because there were so many different albums by him nominated, and I didn't want to fill my ballot with Fela albums, but Zombie is one of his strongest records. I'm glad to see it here! The title song of course a classic, both for the insistent sax groove and the socio-political weight it carries, but I always found the B-side song to be a bit mediocre, which is why I voted for Fela albums that I think are great from the beginning to the end.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Streaming Starsailor on Grooveshark now. Tim Buckley is one of those artists, like Scott Walker and Nick Drake, that seem to have a significant following on ILM, but that I don't "get".

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:38 (ten years ago) link

27. Talking Heads - 77 (1977) [147 points, 15 votes]

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I put it on last week and it seemed so offensively fruity that I had to take it off after 2.5 tracks.

― sundar subramanian, Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Their first two albums are pretty much unbearable but in an interesting way ("Fruitiness" sums it up).

― Tom, Friday, October 26, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Classic, classic. "Pulled Up" is clearly the greatest song of all time. The howls and screams are more 'soul' than 'fruit'.

― Keiko, Friday, October 26, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

C to the 77th power. One of the most startling, original, quirky and (yes, occasionally) fruity first LPs ever.

― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Monday, October 31, 2005 2:03 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:40 (ten years ago) link

xp, I can understand not getting Tim Buckley or Scott Walker, but Nick Drake? He recorded some of the most straightforward music ever written.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:43 (ten years ago) link

I'm surprised More Songs about Buildings and Food was the only Talking Heads in the first poll. I always thought it was easily the weakest of the first three. Fear of Music is a strong contender for the top ten surely?

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:46 (ten years ago) link

Zombie was my #1 vote for this poll. It's a tough call. "Mister Follow Follow" is certainly less frenetic, but I think it's great. However, on given days I might prefer Roforofo Fight, Open & Close, Shuffering and Shmiling, Sorrow Tears & Blood, Gentleman, He Miss Road, Shakara, Confusion, even London Scene. For those who don't have all those, the two disc Black President actually does a great job in putting together many of his best jams.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:47 (ten years ago) link

shuffering and shmiling was my top fela vote

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Given how Remain In Light won the 80s poll, and there's a lot of people who now believe Fear Of Music is the better album, I'd say it's top 5 contender.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:52 (ten years ago) link

OK now i feel embarrassed about publicly rooting for Fear Of Music if the far inferior '77 is this high. i still have strong associations of the word "fruity" with that album because of the above quoted posts.

some dude, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:53 (ten years ago) link

xp, I can understand not getting Tim Buckley or Scott Walker, but Nick Drake? He recorded some of the most straightforward music ever written.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, January 8, 2010 1:43 PM

I will grant you that. If I had to choose one of three to listen to; it would be Nick Drake first.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:54 (ten years ago) link

26. Led Zeppelin - III (1970) [149 points, 11 votes]

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Led Fucking Zeppelin III - Forward into the past, as Page & co. retreat to the country and break out the banjos (and bongs).

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, December 23, 2005 2:13 AM (4 years ago)

Led Zeppelin III is my in-the-car default album. I have a tape of it there, and it seems that even the hardest to please passengers will enjoy it, not to mention there's no feeling like driving alone rocking out to Immigrant Song or Out on the Tiles.

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, January 3, 2005 11:44 PM (5 years ago)

Things that make this album great:

1/ The tape hiss before the first note in 'Immigrant.'

2/ The bass riff in the chorus of 'Immigrant.'

3/ The 'Hammer of the gods' lyric in 'Immigrant.'

4/ The mumbling and studio speak before the opening of 'Friends.'

5/ The weirdness of the guitars in 'Friends,' both the alternate tuning and the scales used. Does anyone else almost hear 'Kashmir' here?

6/ Knowing that 'Friends' was written when Page and Plant were becoming friends.

7/ The 'owoowowowowowow' transition and key change to 'Celebration Day.'

8/ "My My My I'm so happy" as someone else noted in 'Celebration' and the double-tracked guitar solo.

9/ The first 5 notes of 'Since.'

10/ The squeak of the bass drum pedal in the beginning bars of 'Since.'

11/ The solo on 'Since.'

12/ The time signatures on 'Out on the Tiles.'

13/ The banjo on 'Gallows' and how it comes in at the same time as the snare.

14/ The false start in 'Tangerine.'

15/ The wah-wah in 'Tangerine.'

16/ The coda of 'That's the Way:' shimmering. And then the tambourine.

17/ 'Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp': a song about a dog.

18/ 'Hats Off:' Thanks for the introduction to Roy Harper!!!

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2:55 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:55 (ten years ago) link

"since i've been loving you" is the fucking nuts

though once you hear the squeaky bass pedal you can never unhear it :(((

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Also, the ultimate Fela comp: Top Fela Choons

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:59 (ten years ago) link

can anyone point me to a link for the 80s poll? searching doesn't seem to turn it up - was it called something 'quirky' and 80s-ish?

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:59 (ten years ago) link

I seriously considered making III my #1 - if it was a little more consistent, it'd be my favourite Zep album

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:02 (ten years ago) link

I don't remember what my beef is w/consistency now - all of ^these^ tracks are amazing.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was a bit surprised that my 2 favorite zep albums (and my 2 favorite 70s steely dan albums) were eligible this time around

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:04 (ten years ago) link

So all we have left is the top 25. Anyone want to place bets on what makes it and what gets left out?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:05 (ten years ago) link

I bet my #1 doesn't make it.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

I voted for "Zombie" on the strength of the title track alone (considering it takes up about half the album, that doesn't seem too unreasonable).

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

The one I really hope makes it is Tapestry

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

looking at my ballot, the only 100% lock left that i see is Aja, and maybe Electric Warrior, not sure if ilx likes that one better than Slider

still holding out for my #1-3 which could all be in the 11-25 range i think but unlikely top 10s

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

oh wait Tusk is 100% lock too and likely top 5

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

and i had Rock Bottom at #8 and it's gotten some other mentions on here so i think it's still coming

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

To be honest I have no idea. I'm still quite certain Curtis will make it, but I doubt it'll be in the top 10. If Talking Heads are gonna win this poll too, that would be a shame. When Clube de Esquina made it, I was hoping that would mean more Brazilian music would follow, but to be honest I can't think of any Brazilian album with strong enough following to make it to the top 25. The number 1 will probably be some hoary old rock or post-punk album, can't think of any funk/soul/jazz record that would be popular enough among ILXors to top the list.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

I'd like to think an AC/DC album made it, and maybe Meddle. I figure another one of the Dan's too. I'd guess my ballot's probably got one or two left.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

I'm going to shocked -- SHOCKED -- if Tusk isn't #1, but I was also shocked that Double Nickels On the Dime wasn't top-5 in the 80s poll, so what do I know.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:13 (ten years ago) link

I think the weird thing about the 70s is that there were a ton of musicians/bands who had a long run of good albums in the decade, which in polls like these leads to a lot of vote splitting. The most likely surprise candidates are the artists with only one or two highly-regarded albums since then there's actually a forced consensus among the people who want to vote for them.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Another artist I'm still crossing my fingers for is Alice Coltrane. Her early-to-mid-70s run of albums is incredibly classic, it would be a shame if none of them made it. I put Journey to Satchidananda high in my ballot, and I know it has many other fans here too.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I really, really, really want to see Ogum Xangô in there too.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

...and I still don't know what "Tusk" is.

(x-post)

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Fear Of Music
Curtis
Electric Warrior
I'm Still In Love With You
The Modern Dance
Lust For Life
Blank Generation
From Here To Eternity
Clear Spot
Rock Bottom
The Raincoats
Real Life
Tusk
Sex Machine
Evening Star
Germ-Free Adolescents
Something/Anything
Joao Gilberto
Tales Of Captain Black
Faust IV
Reproduction
Live At The Witch Trials
Rocket To Russia
Catch A Fire or Natty Dread

I'd like to say Super Ape, but I sadly doubt it.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

It's my anti-ballot!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:21 (ten years ago) link

xpost to ismael

i think ogum xango has a decent shot, it seemed like the gil e jorge thread was pretty actively getting converts (and it was in my top 10 fwiw)

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:24 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 24. T.Rex - Electric Warrior (1971) [151 points, 17 votes]

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The Slider and Electric Warrior are both great albums. The Slider is a bit more classic rock and roll songs and Electric Warrior has more of a stoner soul songs.

"Monolith" in retrospect sounds like a prototype for triphop/downbeat, with the lazy funky drums, the strings and soul stirrer backup vocals.

― earlnash, Friday, October 17, 2003 11:03 AM (6 years ago)

Does most T. Rex sound like "Get It On"?

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:59 PM (4 years ago)

Sundar, ignore Electric Warrior at your peril. For years I didn't get it because all I knew was "Get It On." Big mistake.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:25 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

xxp - Not my ballot just my guess at winners. I have no problem with most of those making it, except I don't get the Tusk love. I'll have to hear it again. I'm guessing about 75% of my guesses will be right, heh.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

9 of 40 and rising...

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:27 (ten years ago) link

I think only Rock Bottom and Faust IV are gonna complete albums I voted for to place. Would have voted Live At The Witch Trials, probably, if I'd heard it, but my Fall listening hasn't quite gotten back that far yet.

If either of the Magazine albums show I will whoop and holler. Ditto Drums And Wires. I still hold out a naive hope that Yes will feature, somehow.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:28 (ten years ago) link

It would be nice if the top album doesn't end up just being a less canonical album by a canonical artist.

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:28 (ten years ago) link

The grammar in my first sentence there is...original.

o.nate it's gonna be a Tusk-Aja 1-2 and I will yawn copiously

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:29 (ten years ago) link

have we had any prog yet other than Red? i know there's other people here who like it and voted for it.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:30 (ten years ago) link

Tuomas, Tusk is a 1979 album by Fleetwood Mac. It amazes me that you seem to be able to be impervious to casual free-floating information, the random factoids that other folks seem to soak in, but they just bounce off of you unless you have your factoid-receptors pointed the right way.

50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

"Tusk": Fleetwood Mac vs. Camper Van

Tusk Vs The White Album

Don't Say That You Love Me: The TUSK Poll.

This will tar me as unnecessarily snarky, but dang, man.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:30 (ten years ago) link

Then Tusk'll be a worthy winner. I don't know what Aja is.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

I've got to take some blame for "Aja" if it shows, since I did vote for it (though not in the top half of my ballot). "Tusk" has moments, but it's not something I could picture wanting to listen to all the way through.

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

I think you'll be pretty on the money - look, here's one! I just got a kick out of the fact that I own four of those on your guess list, but none of them came even close to getting my vote. I'm with you on Tusk; like "Tusk" the song but loathe the rest of the recorded works of post-Green Fleetwood Mac.

xx-post to fastnbulbous

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

Some more predictions for the top 25

Autobahn
The Wall
All Things Must Pass
Neu 75
Stranded
Before & After Science
Sunflower
Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band (please!)

I would love to see a surprise disco entry in the top 25. I'd be happy with Cerrone's Supernature or Black Devil Disco Club.

Also I'm backing Curtis for the top spot.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

The Wall, no chance. Autobahn was surely in the original poll!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:32 (ten years ago) link

i had aja and tusk in my ballot and NO REMORSE. both great albums though maybe not quite as great as ilx hivemind opinion of them.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:33 (ten years ago) link

loathe the rest of the recorded works of post-Green Fleetwood Mac

I know all of these words, but the order confuses me

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:33 (ten years ago) link

Any boring bastards have tusk,aja and fear of music all in their top 10?

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:33 (ten years ago) link

Autobahn wasn't in the original poll. Hmmmm.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:34 (ten years ago) link

Ah, Tusk is by Fleetwood Mac? I do know the name, I've noticed ILX seems to love them a lot, but I've never found out why. I don't think I've ever heard any music by them.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:35 (ten years ago) link

nah i stuck them down below all my pet favorites xxp

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:35 (ten years ago) link

2/3rds boring bastard over here

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:35 (ten years ago) link

We'll get you educated yet. xxp

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Fleetwood Mac: really good. That's my thoughts on the matter.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:37 (ten years ago) link

nothing wrong with those records btw, but it just seems to go against the spirit of an alternate 70s poll if it's chockfull of ilm canon anyway.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:38 (ten years ago) link

^^^agreed, but such was the downright challopsy and terrible nature of the first poll that it's being countered like this

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:38 (ten years ago) link

Well I just voted for the ones I like

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:38 (ten years ago) link

seriously, what was everyone smoking that first go around

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:39 (ten years ago) link

the idea that someone would prefer peter green-era fleetwood mac still baffles me

psychgawsple, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:39 (ten years ago) link

79. The Beatles - Let It Be

exhibit A

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:39 (ten years ago) link

does tusk get much praise outside of ILM? it's still kind of an 'alternative' choice, just if you hang out around these parts too long it doesn't really feel that way

psychgawsple, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:42 (ten years ago) link

I'm thinking if one of these polls is done for the 90s as was suggested previously it might be more interesting to eliminate not only the albums from the first go-around but the artists too. This poll's still got plenty of Neil Young, Bowie, etc since fans of those dudes (myself included! oops) will just vote for their other albums that didn't make it the first time, which kind of waters down the alternative concept of it.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:44 (ten years ago) link

Tusk gets plenty of praise elsewhere.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:44 (ten years ago) link

I think it's been rehabilitated a lot, but we have a pretty skewed idea of mainstream on ILM

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:45 (ten years ago) link

Once an artist has made a certain number of arguably great records, even their lesser albums become somehow more interesting. Plus the '70s was kind of the ur-decade for rock careerists.

xxp

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:46 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, an alternative poll for the 90's would see me suggest-banned before the top 20 ;-)

Currently listening to Damn The Torpedoes, which I voted for, and which I'm kinda hoping places. It won't, but it's one of the best American albums of the 70's IMO

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:46 (ten years ago) link

Tusk was considered 'the biggest failure ever' for years & years

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:46 (ten years ago) link

The number 1 will probably be some hoary old rock or post-punk album, can't think of any funk/soul/jazz record that would be popular enough among ILXors to top the list.

― Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:12

Dude, it's a 1970s poll. It's all hoary and old!

mega xpost

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:48 (ten years ago) link

Whereas in reality it was only a small failure </challops>

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:49 (ten years ago) link

I would have no problem with a poll where the artists are eliminated too. If that had been the case here, only oen album in my ballot would have been disqualified.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:49 (ten years ago) link

(Tie) 24. Faust - IV (1974) [151 points, 17 votes]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d78x13.jpg

Picked it up about a month ago and it just kills me. Was just listening to it this morning - it's still in that phase where every time I listen to it I realize it's even better than I thought the last time I listened to it.

― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, January 9, 2009 2:57 PM (11 months ago)

so many people who only own one Faust record own that one, it's total pop...

― Milton Parker, Friday, June 15, 2007 3:38 PM (2 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:49 (ten years ago) link

(oops, that's actually supposed to be 1973... I forgot to change it before I posted. like it's really a big deal...)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:50 (ten years ago) link

Should have been top 5. Bah.

emil.y, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:51 (ten years ago) link

Aja, Autobahn and Lust For Life didn't make the top 200 of the previous poll, so it'll be a surprise to me if they make the top 25. I just couldn't believe there isn't support for Lust For Life, so I included it.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

massive x-post, i didn't see electric warrior and faust iv, i swear!

no order:
hejira
curtis
meddle
fear of music
before and after science
the modern dance
another music in a different kitchen
germfree adolescents
la woman
shiny beast
stranded
rock bottom
rocket to russia
electric warrior
are we not man, we are devo
bridges
master of reality
aja
tusk
faust iv
raincoats
band of gypsys
the köln concert
autobahn
natty dread

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

xxpost

Should have been higher for sure. Jennifer and Lauft... are kinda like religious experiences. Slightly silly religious experiences. But then these guys saw that the fuckaround could be more beautiful than the solemn statement, and followed that muse to this zenith

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:54 (ten years ago) link

All sorts of off-topic, but why not:

the idea that someone would prefer peter green-era fleetwood mac still baffles me

I really, really hate Stevie Nicks. I like Buckingham the guitarist but not Buckingham the singer. I don't like cocaine.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Did you actually vote in this, Louis?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:56 (ten years ago) link

huh?

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:56 (ten years ago) link

His ballot came in the last day, I think.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

3/4 of the way through, and six from my ballot have made it.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

master of reality

This was #61.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

10 of mine so far, but 5 of those were in the bottom 20.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:00 (ten years ago) link

I was gonna ask what la woman is, but I realized it's L.A. Woman, heh. What's Bridges?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:00 (ten years ago) link

voted for Faust Tapes instead, because of a fond memory of me ruining a Christmas dinner when I was 15 with it:
Mum 'play us one of your records'
Me 'OK'

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:01 (ten years ago) link

Sorry Louis - I thought I remembered someone being sniffy about voting and thought it was you

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:01 (ten years ago) link

damn... Stormcock isn't going to make it is it? Should have voted.

sofatruck, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

lol @ that story

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

I'm waiting to see 101-120, that's all I'll say IK

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

13 of mine in so far. I forget if Band On The Run made it, but that'd be 14.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

sonofstan's story FTW

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:05 (ten years ago) link

sonofstan - I once ruined a parents' dinner party with Isn't Anything

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:05 (ten years ago) link

23. Ramones - Rocket to Russia (1977) [152 points, 13 votes]

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In the past I've always upped Rocket To Russia on the ground that it uses the greatest variety of their classic tricks while slowing down the least (with "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" and "I Don't Care" being the only real duds). And I think I still do. But somehow it seems like a combination tape of the best stuff from Leave Home and Road To Ruin would actually contain all of my favorite Ramones songs. Funny how that works.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, February 9, 2007 6:49 PM (2 years ago)

Pinefox sez : "Too little interest in songwriting".

To me this is so far wide of the mark that it completely misses what early-Ramones are all about. The analogies with Brill building and early 60's girlpop songcraft has been trotted out so often wrt The Ramones that it's tempting to dismiss it out-of-hand. There is some truth in it though - I can hear the Shangri-La's, say, in I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend or Babysitter. That's not to say that this automatically makes the Ramones good, of course.

But they're better than good - they're masters. Their best songs are great because they are lean and simple - there's nothing that shouldn't be there. Couple this with a simple melodic hook(nothing fancy - 4 chords max. and another 2 for the middle 8) and a propulsive beat, and you have something irresistable. Add some elements of The Ramones 'own world' imagery (pick from : NY street images, retards, 'nam casualties, glue, girls)and you have genius.

Take "Glad to see you Go" from Leave Home - straight into a Beach Boys/Eddie Cochrane morphed melody and just listen to the way that the song shifts gear slightly on lines 3 and 4 of the verse as Tommy closes the high-hat a touch under the chords and melody. The shift into the chorus is sublime and the sheer rush as it comes back to the last verse from the middle 8 ("I need somebody good, I need a miracle") is like a ride in the space shuttle - on the outside.

Take "Rockaway Beach" - another point on the curve linking "Summer in the City", " Dancing in the Street" and "Baby on more Time". Again - great chorus, great lyrics ("Chewin out a rhythm on my bubblegum") and a sense of PLACE. In less than 3 minutes you feel exactly what it's like to be a teenager in baking hot NY - and you feel it every single time you hear it. That's great songwriting, Pinefox.

Rockaway, Glad..., Listen to My Heart, 53rd and 3rd, You Should Never Have Opened That Door are equals of "Please, Please Me", "California Girls", "My Generation" ..... the list goes on....if you can look past the "punk" thing which is really a red herring as far as The Ramones are concerned.

I guess it all depends on what you look for in a song - they're not Burt or Jimmy Webb, but they tell a story, crank up the adrenaline, and make their own world for 3 mins for EVERY SINGLE TRACK on the first 4 albums. That's classic.

― Dr. C, Sunday, July 15, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

^ this isn't specifically related to the album in question, but it's long been one of my favorite things ever written on ILM.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:06 (ten years ago) link

Shit, I haven't heard Faust - just realised that my story might be really lame

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:07 (ten years ago) link

(Tuomas: Sorry! I forgot Mongo Santamaria was on the noms list.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:08 (ten years ago) link

That's okay, Afro-Indio is hardly a proper "Afro-Cuban" album anyway, more like a fusion of that and jazz-funk and disco.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:10 (ten years ago) link

That Dr. C post should be in the liner notes of those Ramones albums.

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:11 (ten years ago) link

^^^truth.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:17 (ten years ago) link

I should add to my Faust story that I only has about 20 records at that point, and I'd only bought the Faust record because Virgin put it out for 49p - records were very expensive then, so every purchase was weighed over weeks of saving. That was pretty much my first ever impulse buy.

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:24 (ten years ago) link

22. Can - Soon Over Babluma (1974) [152 points, 16 votes]

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I like "Soon Over Babaluma" much more than any of the later records.

Outside the title track, most of the music is much more busy fusion than the stripped minimal sound on their earlier albums. Damo is gone, but the vocals are better on this one than later on when they started trying to write songs, otherwards it is mostly instrumental.

Michael Karoli gets down on a violin on one track which mingles in nicely with these weird soundscapes that Irmin Schmidt coaxes out of an Alpha 77 (whatever that is).

― earlnash, Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:50 AM (6 years ago)

Didn't Simon Reynolds describe this track as something like the mandible clicks of the insect world? Well, insects are small and that's what Soon Over Babaluma sounds like to me - small, bringing everything down to the ground if not burrowing directly into it. If 1970s Miles kicks up clouds of voodoo smoke, Can concentrate on the dirt underneath the Dark Magus' feet.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:47 PM (2 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:25 (ten years ago) link

Actually my fave Can, more than Tago Mago or Future Days (which were in the other one)

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:31 (ten years ago) link

What's Bridges?
the soul/funk album by gil scott-heron & brian jackson. i discovered it recently. it's phantastic.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:32 (ten years ago) link

I don't think The Royal Scam is a lock, but it beat Katy Lied in at least one Steely Dan albums poll (and was #2 on my ballot), so I wouldn't be shocked to see it in the top 20.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:33 (ten years ago) link

21. Harmonia - Deluxe (1975) [155 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]

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I prefer "Deluxe" to the first album. The tracks seem less collaborative - the first three track are obviously the Michael Rother tracks and the final three are pure Cluster. However the title track is better than anything on Michael Rother's solo albums by a mile - and Brian Eno obviously thought so too or wouldn't have expended so much energy trying to recreate the feel of this track on "Julie With...". Talking of Eno ripoffs, the track "Monza" (which is the "Neu-like motorik stomp" on the album) basically is "Red Sails" from "Lodger" sans Bowie's vocals. "Monza" is also the best Neu! track not to be found on a Neu! album. And that's not all! "Notre Dame" and "Kekse" are better than most Cluster tracks - in Cluster's sweet and sunny mode not the sturm und drang stuff.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:25 AM (5 years ago)

De Luxe is pretty great. The first half is all chill and austere and then Neu! style it recapitulates those themes in the second half with chuggachugga motorik aggression.

― steve hise, Thursday, January 6, 2005 12:47 PM (5 years ago)

Just listening to Deluxe for the first time.

Jeeeeeeeesus.

― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:39 AM (2 days ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:34 (ten years ago) link

wow the kraut contingent is out in full force on this poll

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:36 (ten years ago) link

Well, for 3 out of the last 4 spots anyway.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:37 (ten years ago) link

starting to worry my #1 won't make it at all...

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Suddenly there's a lot of krautrock in this list and Neu 75 is still to come surely? Deluxe is a stunning album really glad to see that so high.

I've never heard Soon Over Babluma, I didn't think there was that much love for it.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:39 (ten years ago) link

i don't like neu 75 at all. it's very repetitive and annoying.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:44 (ten years ago) link

20. Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band (1976) [161 points, 10 votes]

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Disco rarely got more musically or lyrically sophisticated than on this self-titled debut album. Long before he took up the role of Kid Creole with the Coconuts, wordsmith August Darnell cushioned small, perfect truths--singer Cory Daye promises to get her "equivalency diploma" in love in "I'll Play the Fool"--in knowingly retro sounds. Stylish, honest, and completely one of a kind.

― Poops McGee, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

I read an interview with Donald Fagen where he says "Glamour Profession" was written after listening to Dr Buzzard for a week.

― dave q, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

Dr. Buzzard's is not only very pleasurable, I think it is "important", although more from the standpoint of theory than from that of actual influence. For me, Dr. Buzzard's was one of the really original artists in African-American music in the mid-70s, along with Parliament/Funkadelic and Afrika Bambaata and other forebears of rap. Its music is a glimpse of a road not taken in African-American music -- an attempt to do music that reflects the identity of a Black community that is composed of cosmopolitan strivers, polyglot syncretists, rather than the paranoid, self-limiting, "thug" culture that has become the focus of hip-hop (which I am not attacking, by the way). It is the pop music that Stanley Crouch would want if he ever got his head out of his butt. And, like Prince but unlike a whole lot of other African-American music, then and since, it is hyper-aware of the entire African-American musical tradition and the many points of intersection and influence between that tradition and European musics. And, like Parliament and unlike a whole lot of other African-American music, it is playful and subversive about race and politics (listen to "Soraya" or "Once There Was A Colored Girl").

All of that does not make it "better" or "more valid" or whatever compared to types of music that are actually popular and commercially successful. What it does provide is sort of the musical equivalent of a type of science-fiction novel: What would the world look like if we just tightened (or loosened) this one screw a bit . . . ? Kid Creole, of course, came from the same place, but pretty systematically limited its ambition to making funny party music. Dr. Buzzard's was party music, often funny, with something serious to say and do.

― Vornado (Vornado), Monday, January 10, 2005 10:30 AM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:48 (ten years ago) link

That has just made my day!

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:50 (ten years ago) link

well we're in the top 20 and i still have no idea what's "left to come" other than 2 or 3 records so i'd say this poll was at least some type of success

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 20:53 (ten years ago) link

I told you guys the top half would be a lot more schizo than the bottom half!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:55 (ten years ago) link

Dr Buzzard was my number two all we need now is for Curtis to take this poll.

I'm surprised Sparks haven't made the list, is Propaganda in with a shot? I think they had two in my top six.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:57 (ten years ago) link

Swell Maps will make this, y/n?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:00 (ten years ago) link

19. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star (1973) [162 points, 12 votes]

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always felt that the flaming lips ripped off this album for "soft bulletin". that drum sound, especially. there are passages on this album i can easily hear the lips playing (end of "zen archer" esp). anyone else hear it?

― johnnyo, Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:51 PM (2 months ago)

i think his weird stuff is his best. and it's really not that weird. it's all just your subconcious trying to tell you to be afraid. it's just him twidling a few knobs here and there on top of some mightily impressive songs. there are some jokey bits, but they're really not that annoying in the least.

― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:45 AM (6 years ago)

Yeah but AWaTSis indeed the fucking weirdass album to end all fucking weirdass albums. I love it to death all the way through but it's asking a lot to expect more than 1% of ILM to love it start to finish.

― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Tuesday, June 8, 2004 10:36 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:02 (ten years ago) link

yes!! that was my #3 and i've completely fallen in love with it over the past 3 or 4 months. just one of the most fun and glorious albums to listen to all in one go

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:04 (ten years ago) link

i gather i would possibly like that record a lot

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:06 (ten years ago) link

it's weird because stylistically he gets real similar to zappa on that record but zappa's never really clicked for me and yet i love todd

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:07 (ten years ago) link

I've got 4 of 7 so far. Soon is my 2nd favorite Can album but it just missed my top 40. It also didn't make the top 200 last time, so a genuinely nice surprise. The album had been underrated for a long time, nice to see it finally get props.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:08 (ten years ago) link

I voted for A Wizard, A True Star

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:10 (ten years ago) link

Wow, I wonder if that means Something/Anything is shut out? I'm going to re-listen to it now. I just saw the phrase today, "you're a wizard, a true star" in the latest Bruce Sterling book The Caryatids. Was it floating around before Rundgren used it for the title?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:12 (ten years ago) link

something/anything is good but it suffers from 'might have been better cut down to a single album' syndrome imo

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:14 (ten years ago) link

it feels more like just a buncha songs than a unified art-pop statement like wizard is

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:14 (ten years ago) link

Wizard was my #3. Secret Treaties by Blue Oyster Cult was my #2, which I really don't think is going to make it, but hopefully my #1 will.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:17 (ten years ago) link

18. Lou Reed - Transformer (1972) [164 points, 16 votes]

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Am I right in assuming Transformer is Lou Reed's best selling album due to the "hit" status of "Walk on the Wild Side"? I wonder how many people bought this and were totally turned off on Lou Reed for a good long while if not forever.
If I bought this when I was 14 instead of The Velvet Underground & Nico I would've thought, "Fuck this Lou Reed guy, he sucks."
I mean it almost makes me think that NOW.

Also, anyone else first hear "Walk on the Wild Side" as the Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch song?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, October 4, 2004 3:59 AM (5 years ago)

Most of the songs on Lou Reed's "Transformer" have either gay themes ("Make Up") or at least gay subtexts; the production itself (queeny Bowie harmonies, strings) is quite campy.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:09 AM (4 years ago)

My parents used to play that one all the time, and I guess that i can never escape it. They used to play it on sundays, I can still remember listening to that song in the wintertime while my toes got cold 'cause my socks always got wet from the snow. I still think that 'Vicious' rocks, though, and even though it's a love/hate relationship, that record can never really be touched.

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Friday, December 19, 2003 4:35 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:17 (ten years ago) link

17. Joni Mitchell - Hejira (1976) [165 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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My favorite Joni album is Hejira, I think. Lots of very peculiar voice/arrangement interplay, loping rhythms, beautiful bass parts.... There's really no album like it. I agree the album benefits from a cohesiveness, in sound, in theme.

It's not perfect. "Furry Sings the Blues" always sounded like a retread to me--the one ringer. But "Amelia," yes--this might be her best song. "Song for Sharon" also is beautiful.

Joni Mitchell has so many qualities (and so much myth) that are likely to set alarm bells ringing in ILMs heads--including mine-- but she is incredible, just totally incredible.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, August 1, 2003 10:10 AM (6 years ago)

hejira was the first album i ever heard of joni somewhen around 1984 and it made me a fan. it is like a calmer, more mature and less overtly emotional version of blue, her other masterpiece. it doesn't set the shivers down my spine like blue but it has got this relaxed atmosphere with occasional emotional outbursts like amelia which make a perfect record.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, August 3, 2003 8:58 AM (6 years ago)

I actually think that Hejira might be the greatest album ever made. A perfect fusion of poetry, soulfulness, sound and meaning. It's so personal and so universal. I can really live in that record.

'Song for Sharon' is the centerpiece, so eloquent, inspired throughout. Then there's 'Amelia', the heart-pounding 'Black Crow', 'A strange Boy' where every messed-up artistic young guy can dream of being seduced by Joni, and the title track which pretty much encapsulates it all.
'It was the hexagram of the heavens
It was the strings of my guitar....'

― Pete S, Wednesday, December 3, 2003 7:00 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:26 (ten years ago) link

I've really got my hopes up for Bill Fay's last persecution now, but maybe my first place was the only vote it got and i'm fooling myself

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:28 (ten years ago) link

Hejira rules.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:28 (ten years ago) link

I've never actually sat down and listened to a whole Joni Mitchell album. I've heard scattered tracks here and there, but I think maybe I'll start with Hejira (because I'm a contrarian and don't want to start with Blue).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:30 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Joni's just killin' it in this poll. I've never really listened to her either.

o. nate, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:36 (ten years ago) link

Fingers still crossed for 'Stormcock' - given up on Slapp Happy and Kevin Coyne

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:42 (ten years ago) link

I kept hearing "Help Me" on the radio back in March is how I got into her. Also that David Sedaris said his sister said he could only room w/her if he didn't bring his Joni Mitchell records. Got all the three that placed so far on this poll & love them – still haven't heard "Blue." I think "Court & Spark" is my favorite of the three.

girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:43 (ten years ago) link

I had Blue on recently. It sounded like ancient history.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:44 (ten years ago) link

Matt #2 – high fives for Secret Treaties! It's my faves album of theirs by a long shot. I love all the organ on it. I defs voted for it, iirc in my top ten, but I forget where exactly.

girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:44 (ten years ago) link

i think i voted for agents of fortune instead whoops

i voted stormcock but way at the bottom of my ballot so only a few points worth

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:47 (ten years ago) link

Blue is indeed mega overplayed... but i really don't think its ruined by it. Every time I hear it i think i'm going to get bored but it never happens. I guess with a few of these mega genre defining big records there are actually very good reasons why they were so huge.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:48 (ten years ago) link

16. The Raincoats - The Raincoats (1979) [168 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]

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i always get a kick out of the savage review that their albums got in the first "rolling stone record guide."

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:20 AM (5 years ago)

Trivia: Johny Rotten once said back in the day that all music at that time was crap - except for the Raincoats.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:13 PM (5 years ago)

The Raincoats...totally challenged themselves and their _own_ preconceptions of what kind of sounds they could make every step of the way. And never made a bad record, though the reunion album has some shaky spots.

― Douglas, Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:49 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Joni is dominating like Kate Bush did for the 80s poll.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:50 (ten years ago) link

yet another album i haven't even heard, love it

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:50 (ten years ago) link

Court & Spark has two of Joni's bigger pop hits: "Help Me" & "Free Man in Paris". It also has a balls out rocker: "Raised on Robbery" and a cameo by Cheech & Chong. That was the first Joni album that I picked up and have listened to the longest.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Friday, 8 January 2010 21:51 (ten years ago) link

15. Steely Dan - The Royal Scam (1976) [176 points, 11 votes, 2 first place votes]

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I think this is the hardest SD album for me to call, favorites-wise, very consistent with no real strong favorites or un-favorites.

― some dude, Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:24 PM (1 year ago)

Actually, I wouldn't say this is my favorite SD album, but I have sometimes thought that it's the pinnacle of their sound: it sounds sparkly and polished without the sterility that sometimes dogs Aja and Gaucho.

― jaymc, Friday, June 27, 2008 5:20 AM (1 year ago)

"Kid Charlemagne" changed my fucking life for real, some of the best narrative on Fagen's resume. 'Clean this mess up else we'll all wind up in jail/those test tubes, and the scale' one of the all-time couplets.

― J0hn D., Friday, June 27, 2008 11:52 AM (1 year ago)

it's like they made a whole album of deep cuts

― any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:12 AM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:59 (ten years ago) link

herrrrre we go

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:01 (ten years ago) link

(will take that back if/when Rock Bottom appears, also if/when Steely Dan turn out to be actually awesome)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:02 (ten years ago) link

We heard you're leaving, that's ok.

Euler, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:03 (ten years ago) link

Steely Dan can be awesome, but not always.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:03 (ten years ago) link

left that one off my ballot to make room for some variety, looks like it didn't need my help anyway

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:04 (ten years ago) link

14. Steely Dan - Aja (1977) [177 points, 16 votes]

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It's been said many times on the Gaucho thread, but I'll repeat: they wrote masterfully about ennui, dessication, and despair on Gaucho. I'm not sure what "Black Cow" and "Home At Last" are about beyond their instrumental virtuosity. I mean, they're pretty, I don't skip the tracks, but so what?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, June 20, 2008 2:14 PM (1 year ago)

Alfred if we ever have a few hours to kill together I will explain to you why this is a better album than Gaucho and you will agree by the time I get done.

― J0hn D., Monday, July 14, 2008 9:15 PM (1 year ago)

Aja is almost not Steely Dan to me. Aja is this amazing tangent whose heights were never to be equalled again. I recommend an earlier record to get to the truth of Steely Dan. Aja stands apart.

― Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Friday, March 17, 2006 12:20 PM (3 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:18 (ten years ago) link

Ooh, back-to-back Steely Dans. (Aja was way low on my ballot and Scam wasn't on it at all.)

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:21 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, they were within a single point of being a tie.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:22 (ten years ago) link

i hope that was it for steely dan. i don't hate them at all, i even kind of like them. but in a way they represent the mediocrity of the 70s. the middle of the road, fusion, jazz rock etc. lukewarm, unintersting music.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:24 (ten years ago) link

FFS. I'm starting to mourn the great albums that these Steely Dan albums are stealing spots from.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:27 (ten years ago) link

That's all there can be isn't it? all the others were in the first 70s poll and gaucho is 80s.

But they so don't represent the mediocrity of the 70s

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:28 (ten years ago) link

Can't Buy a Thrill was eligible too, but here's some inside info... it didn't make the cut.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:32 (ten years ago) link

fuck

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:33 (ten years ago) link

Funny that people were assuming this was going to be an Aja/Tusk #1-2 lock.

President Keyes, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:37 (ten years ago) link

Tusk might not even make the 100

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:38 (ten years ago) link

I've never listend to Steely Dan before, but I'm listening to Aja, and WTF?!! People would actually vote this sort of fusion-lite, cocktail bar soul over, you know, proper electric jazz or soul?! This is the 14th best album of the 70s?! Is there something I don't get here?

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:39 (ten years ago) link

114th

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:40 (ten years ago) link

I don't get it either

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:40 (ten years ago) link

x-p, same idea
don't forget the other poll, tuomas. so maybe it is the 114th best album of the 70s.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:41 (ten years ago) link

This kinda reminds me of Herbie Hancock's failed late 70s and early 80s pop experiments... Except that even on those albums Herbie was twice as funky as this adult-oriented bullshit.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:42 (ten years ago) link

People would actually vote this sort of fusion-lite, cocktail bar soul over, you know, proper electric jazz or soul?!...Is there something I don't get here?
Pretty much the exact response of very nearly every person upon hearing Steely Dan for the first time, including those, like myself, who grow to love them dearly.

MumblestheRevelator, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:43 (ten years ago) link

Steely Dan aren't jazz or soul though, and they're not "proper" anything thank god.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:45 (ten years ago) link

Hit us with lucky #13 before I have to endure the commute through Chicago's magical grey slush. Please let it be something good!

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Someone please explain this to me? Right now the guy is singing "learn to work the saxophone, I'll play just what I feel" to a backing track that sounds like a 5th generation faded photocopy of some actually good soul-jazz song. How is this different from Kenny G or Grover Washington or what have you?

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:47 (ten years ago) link

I thought you were talking about the band Chicago

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:48 (ten years ago) link

13. Neu! - Neu! 75 (1975) [187 points, 17 votes]

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I bought Neu 75 last week and have barely listened to anything else since...the division between the more ambient stuff on side one and the heavier proto-punk side two works really well.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, July 1, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

Neu! 75 just holds a special place in my heart, ever since I bought that Germanaphon bootleg at Kims Underground (the pre-Other Music store) for like 25 bucks. I think in the end it's their best album and pretty underrated by those who prefer the first two.

― dan selzer, Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:51 PM (2 years ago)

First two tracks on Neu! '75 promise greatness - they spend the rest of the album not delivering.

― Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:01 AM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:48 (ten years ago) link

I mean, I can sometimes enjoy this sort of stuff, it's not like there's anything wrong with it, but I don't get how this is a critically acclaimed album while those Herbie Hancock albums are given 2-star reviews.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:49 (ten years ago) link

Lady, if you have to ask...

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Check the Steely Dan albums that placed in the first poll. The made the first cut for a reason.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:50 (ten years ago) link

The=They

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:51 (ten years ago) link

Aja, for me, works as an auto-critique of the Dan - people always accused them of being what you say, and missing the poison, so on this one they buried the ice so deep, you need to think along with them to get at it: if you didn't know where to look then it does sound bland, 'lite', a few short steps from Chuck Mangione. Its not. It's record that, instead of decrying the numb anomie of its targets, lives it, inhabits it - and probably provided a soundtrack for them.Someone, somewhere, probably 'turned up the 'Dan, (because) the neighbours were listening'

xxxxp to tuomas

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:51 (ten years ago) link

yay for the raincoats. now where's my x-ray spex?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:51 (ten years ago) link

I wish there more MORe middle of the road stuff, more soft rock, more commercial radio stuff, on this list.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:52 (ten years ago) link

I wish there was more prog on this list.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:52 (ten years ago) link

Not now, of course, because I've got poll fatigue, but someday ILM should do a real disco poll. xp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:53 (ten years ago) link

prog has been found guilty of being british, a cardinal offence for music on ilm these days

:P

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:54 (ten years ago) link

pc gone mad

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I'm glad the Raincoats made it, even though I associate them with the 80s.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:56 (ten years ago) link

I listened to tons of prog as an American teenager, but kind of outgrew it. To the point that when I see adults talking about/listening to prog rock w/o irony and being 100% serious that I kind of giggle.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:56 (ten years ago) link

Mmmmm....Chuck Mangione. If Steely Dan were funky I would shoot myself in the head.

US EEL (u s steel), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:56 (ten years ago) link

It's record that, instead of decrying the numb anomie of its targets, lives it, inhabits it - and probably provided a soundtrack for them.

So basically they tried to make a pastiche of MOR jazz-lite that was so successful that it sounds exactly like what it's imitating? I still don't get why it's any better than those albums that did this stuff without any hidden agenda. It still sounds the same.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:56 (ten years ago) link

Yay, Neu! After a two year hiatus with Rother doing Harmonia and Dinger forming the early stages of La Dusseldorf, they reconvened at Conny Plank's new studio to finish their three album contract. Side one is them as a duo, featuring Rother's lovely spacescapes. On side two, Dinger wanted to move to vocals and rhythm guitar, leaving drumming duties to the double team of brother Thomas Dinger and Plank's recording assistant Hans Lampe. They don't disappoint, blowing their tops with crunchy guitars, doubled-up drums and screaming punk Dinger vocals. Bowie liked "Hero" so much he named one of his best songs after it.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Steely Dan were the best band of the '70s, fuck aaaaall y'all that disagree, straight up and down

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:59 (ten years ago) link

I just realised there's been no mention of Alice Cooper in either of these polls and it makes me want to cry a bit. Love It To Death through Billion Dollar Babies are all 100% classic.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:00 (ten years ago) link

I'm getting to really positively hate proto-punk, punk, post-punk, and krautrock.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:02 (ten years ago) link

^^^testing my resolve never to SB in anger

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Except with words that just lie there until you pick them up and they cut your fingers and tunes that sound like they're doing that jazz lite thing until you start following them and they go very strange.

Its not the best place to start though, I'd agree

XP t TUomas again

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:05 (ten years ago) link

I love Steely Dan but i've never cared for Aja.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:06 (ten years ago) link

12. Brian Eno - Before and After Science (1977) [187 points, 18 votes]

http://i46.tinypic.com/i4fok4.jpg

I'll defer to alex in mainhattan's "In Praise of..." post.

I hesitated to choose the third Eno album in this series (1973 may yield a 4th one though the second Roxy Music will be a tough contender) but I realised that what I like about Bowie's Low is its strong Eno touch on the mainly instrumental second atmospheric side. Eno on his own (plus guest musicians) in 1977 to my ears still sounds more adventurous and timeless than the dark and brooding Low. Which additionally hasn't got such a classy black and white cover.

Like Low Before and after Science has two totally different sides as the title already suggests. No. 1 is more rhythmic, no.2 is more like a soundscape. An album which stands in-between his earlier avant pop output and his later ambient releases. Two music worlds are juxtaposed and I find the result of this approach still as thrilling as in the late seventies when I listened to it for the first time. To be honest this is the only album I bought in that mostly dreadful decade for me which I still love today. Kiss, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Supertramp, Pink Floyd, Alan Parsons, Genesis and Eloy were the bands I cherished in the first half of my teenage years. None of them stood the test of time. I can date back my obsession with music to the purchase of this Eno record which I bought in a record shop in Duisburg about 15 kilometers from my home town. I think I went there by bicycle after having read a review in Die Zeit which still is the only newspaper (a weekly) I read regularly.

It starts with the wonderful groovy piece No One Receiving. One of the greatest moments of Phil Collins. His reverberating drums give this track a light and almost ballet-like quality. A simple bassline dominates the song which is uncategorisable. Somewhere in between world, jazz, dance and pop. Weird and enchanting.

Backwater is even weirder. The piano is part of the rhythm section. Eno sings surreal lyrics about god knows what. The melody is in the singing, the instruments are following later. And then there is this handclapping. I hear some irony there and it sounds bloody good.

More bass wizardry on Kurt's Rejoinder which features Kurt Schwitters recitating one of his dada poems. Clever collaging.

On Energy Fools the Magician we enter soundscape land. Phil Collins hi-hat sounds like a triangle, Eno's "vibes" like a synthie, his keyboards like a piano, his chorus like a women background choir, Fred Frith's modified guitar (?) like a glockenspiel, only Percy Jones fretless bass sounds like a bass. Around 80 seconds in the bass seems to fall over like when you walk too fast and you lose the equilibrium. But then the music does not turn around, it goes on in its majestic calm way. Disappointed expectations. Altogether only two minutes but in those 125 seconds there is more happening than in the entire output of many musicians.

The next song seems to be the turning point. King Lead's Hat. An anagramm of Talking Heads with whom Eno worked later on, I think. More handclapping accompanies a trashy rhythm. This used to be my least favourite track on the album. It feels a little out of place here sandwiched in between two slow atmospheric pieces as it is very upbeat. When Robert Fripp's guitar solo comes just before the two minute mark my love for this song starts to grow though. This beautiful warm and fuzzy King Crimson sound is so perfect in small doses. Paul Rudolph provides some sudden bass chords which seem to act like a stopper but it goes on. Finally it all goes kind of electronic. Eno doing his "metallics". I hear the sound of champagne bubbles and I get very thirsty.

Side two shoots off (not really ;-)) with Here He Comes. As so often Eno offers us an earcatcher as the first song on a side. A languishing beautiful melody about a boy who "was seven feet high". After a minute the song intensifies itself by getting melancholic and even more beautiful when Eno holds his breath for a second and elongates the syllables by singing "coooomes" and then "bloohoohoohoo". What always astounds me about his voice that on one hand it has this totally asexual almost robotic tinge and then it can get so sentimental.

Julie with... ("her open blouse is gazing up into the empty sky") is the longest song on the album. Six minutes and twenty seconds starting slowly in a dreamy way. We are drifting on a calm sea. The first resolution (or dénouement) comes after two minutes. More drifting and a second resolution after four minutes. The gorgeous cruise resumes. I wish I had been there.

Piano time. A tiny theme. By this River is tenderness pure. The proof that beauty is simple. Eno's singing inevitably turns into humming. Words fail. The song was used in the German movie on RAF terrorism Die innere Sicherheit by Christian Petzold whenever the daughter of the terrorist couple left the doomed family to find herself. In Portugal on the beach for example. A young, innocent girl dreaming of a normal world outside of the hiding and the lying. It's a great film and an even greater song.

Through Hollow Lands is the track of this record that haunted me most in the late 70s. An instrumental which I taped in a loop on a C90 cassette. I listened to it for meditation purposes. Impossible to ever get bored by it. As there is hardly anything happening in it. No highs, no lows, just an incredible serenity. I never arrived to the point where my thoughts stopped. Patience has never been my stronghold.

Eno closes the album with Spider and I. Synthie plains going slightly towards the heavy. It's not bad but by far not the best on this stunning album. Which probably would be my island disc if I had to choose one Eno record. As it comprises the Eno before and after the accident. A watershed album with the watershed right in the middle.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:03 PM (4 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:08 (ten years ago) link

I'm getting to really positively hate proto-punk, punk, post-punk, and krautrock.

― _Rudipherous

I'm with you on the last two. There is some of the former two I still enjoy.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:09 (ten years ago) link

Think I had this as my number 2 or 3. Second side is the best thing he's ever done.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:09 (ten years ago) link

very pretty album, probably my third favorite eno after another green world and on land

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:11 (ten years ago) link

uh i know i've learnt this the hard way myself but how the fuck can you hate on an entire genre

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:12 (ten years ago) link

not even genre - entire multi-genre/genre-defying swathes of varied and frequently interesting music

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:13 (ten years ago) link

It was #200 in the first poll, so this is turning out pretty unpredictable. Great album.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:18 (ten years ago) link

both iggy pop albums, tusk, fear of music, curtis, rock bottom, and god knows what else

balearific, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:18 (ten years ago) link

I've never really cared for punk/proto-punk either, though post-punk has some okay stuff. The two most important things for me in music are rhythm and sound, and almost all punk I've heard is very uninteresting rhythmically and sound-wise. I've never understood how a crappy low-fi sound could actually be considered good, or how "attitude" or whatever you have could compensate for not having any skills.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:19 (ten years ago) link

not even genre - entire multi-genre/genre-defying swathes of varied and frequently interesting music

It's not so much the music itself but its status (though I do have little inclination to listen to any more of most of it at this point).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:20 (ten years ago) link

geir? xpost

moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:20 (ten years ago) link

It's a generalization. My experience of 25 years (I didn't here much of either before I was an early teen) of listening to music in those genres has led me to say, "Not my thing." There are of course exceptions, but I'm predisposed to dislike things that fall under that umbrella. There are a handful of artists I do like in each and hundreds (or more) I have no time for. Such is life.

xx-post to lj.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah well say that next time both of you

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:22 (ten years ago) link

Sorry I dared to use shorthand on a messageboard. Way to fly off the handle!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:23 (ten years ago) link

11. XTC - Drums and Wires (1979) [188 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes]

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I picked up Drums and Wires a few days ago, and I'm glad I made one more attempt with XTC. I don't know what happened in the 3 years between Drums and Wires and English Settlement, but if "Complicated Game" were to get into a schoolyard fight with a song like "Senses Working Overtime" (which I like, even), the latter would get bloodied and then have to watch his girlfriend make out with "Complicated Game".

Great song, great album.

― Z S, Monday, July 16, 2007 8:01 PM (2 years ago)

Best thing about XTC that people tend not to talk about: the performances tend to be amazing. Particularly around Drums and Wires: not only is Partridge a distinctive and engaging vocalist (the stutters and snorts on like “Scissor Man” and “Outside World” come out so well you almost don’t notice how odd they are), but as a band they just tear and swing, all casual, through some pretty acrobatic shifts (again, “Scissor Man”). (If they’d been playing something dark and heavy, my guess is that rock fans would look back at them as gods; but when you play giddy pop, people tend to read skill as just a given, or even a detriment.) The instrumental hot-performances faded away when they went into their pastoral studio-pop phase, obviously, but Partridge’s vox stayed as keen as ever.

― nabiscothingy, Monday, June 28, 2004 11:39 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:23 (ten years ago) link

BOOOOOOM ok poll forgiven, not a single peep outta me about voting patterns/conspiracies from here on

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:24 (ten years ago) link

I love Before & After Science so much

sleeve, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:24 (ten years ago) link

and there's my #1!

if there's a cooler way to close out your rock album than Outside World -> Scissor Man -> Complicated Game i haven't heard it

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:24 (ten years ago) link

Before & After Science really should have been on my list. I thought all of his that I'd have voted for were in the first poll.

I really thought Roxy Music might appear in the list somewhere, Stranded deserves a place for sure.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:24 (ten years ago) link

complicated game is one of maybe the 5 most kickass closing tracks in the entire oeuvre of....xtc

(that's saying a LOT)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:25 (ten years ago) link

Nice to see this on here. One of the last things I cut off my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:26 (ten years ago) link

See? You like post-punk after all. Everyone is happy

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:26 (ten years ago) link

And the only albums that remain are now the Top 10. I'll pick the listing back up on Monday for the final reveal!

100. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres (1973) [80 points, 7 votes]
99. Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges - Clube de Esquina (1972) [80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
98. Chic - C'est Chic (1978) [80 points, 14 votes]
97. John Lennon - Imagine (1971) [80 points, 15 votes]
96. Patti Smith - Horses (1975) [80 points, 17 votes]
95. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978) [81 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
94. Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (1975) [81 points, 8 votes]
93. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970) [81 points, 11 votes]
92. Blondie - Eat to the Beat (1979) [82 points, 9 votes]
91. Miles Davis - Agharta (1976) [82 points, 10 votes]
90. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!! (1977) [83 points, 6 votes]
89. Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973) [83 points, 10 votes]
88. Tom Waits - Closing Time (1973) [84 points, 6 votes]
87. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) [85 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
86. Hawkwind - Space Ritual (1973) [85 points, 11 votes]
85. Aerosmith - Rocks (1976) [86 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. Tubeway Army - Replicas (1979) [86 points, 9 votes]
83. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak (1976) [86 points, 11 votes]
82. The Who - Live at Leeds (1970) [87 points, 6 votes]
81. Comus - First Utterance (1971) [87 points, 9 votes]
80. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece (1974) [88 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
79. Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue (1977) [90 points, 10 votes]
78. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle (1973) [92 points, 9 votes]
77. Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976) [92 points, 10 votes]
76. Pere Ubu - Datapanik in the Year Zero EP (1978) [93 points, 6 votes]
75. ABBA - Arrival (1976) [93 points, 8 votes]
74. David Bowie - Lodger (1979) [93 points, 12 votes]
73. Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974) [93 points, 14 votes]
72. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978) [94 points, 12 votes]
71. The Rolling Stones - Some Girls (1978) [95 points, 13 votes]
70. Neil Young - Harvest (1972) [96 points, 9 votes]
69. Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) [96 points, 12 votes]
68. Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale (1974) [97 points, 10 votes]
67. Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979) [98 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 65. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [99 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 65. Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (1974) [99 points, 9 votes]
64. The Pop Group - Y (1979) [99 points, 10 votes]
63. Al Green - The Belle Album (1977) [100 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. Steely Dan - Katy Lied (1975) [100 points, 9 votes]
61. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (1971) [100 points, 11 votes]
60. Various Artists - No New York (1978) [101 points, 10 votes]
59. The Specials - The Specials (1979) [102 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
58. John Cale - Fear (1974) [104 points, 11 votes]
57. Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson (1971) [106 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
56. King Crimson - Red (1974) [109 points, 12 votes]
55. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music for Airports (1978) [110 points, 12 votes]
54. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove (1978) [110 points, 13 votes]
53. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns (1975) [111 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger (1975) [111 points, 12 votes]
51. Van Morrison - Moondance (1970) [111 points, 13 votes]
(Tie) 49. The Who - Who's Next (1971) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 49. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Armed Forces (1979) [112 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
48. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane (1973) [113 points, 11 votes]
47. Harmonia - Musik von Harmonia (1974) [113 points, 13 votes]
46. Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick (1977) [116 points, 9 votes]
(Tie) 44. Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Zuma (1975) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
(Tie) 44. James Brown - The Payback (1973) [116 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
43. Grateful Dead - American Beauty (1970) [119 points, 9 votes]
42. Amon Düül II - Yeti (1970) [120 points, 12 votes]
41. New York Dolls - Too Much Too Soon (1974) [121 points, 4 votes, 2 first place votes]
40. Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs (1970) [121 points, 9 votes]
39. Funkadelic - Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow (1970) [124 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
38. Miles Davis - Get Up With It (1974) [124 points, 12 votes]
37. This Heat - This Heat (1979) [125 points, 10 votes]
36. T.Rex - The Slider (1972) [127 points, 13 votes]
35. Tim Buckley - Starsailor (1970) [127 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
34. Funkadelic - Standing on the Verge of Getting it On (1974) [128 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run (1975) [128 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
32. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby (1970) [128 points, 14 votes]
31. The Cars - The Cars (1978) [131 points, 13 votes]
30. Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story (1971) [140 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
29. Fela Kuti & Afrika 70 - Zombie (1977) [141 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
28. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti (1975) [146 points, 14 votes]
27. Talking Heads - 77 (1977) [147 points, 15 votes]
26. Led Zeppelin - III (1970) [149 points, 11 votes]
(Tie) 24. T.Rex - Electric Warrior (1971) [151 points, 17 votes]
(Tie) 24. Faust - IV (1973) [151 points, 17 votes]
23. Ramones - Rocket to Russia (1977) [152 points, 13 votes]
22. Can - Soon Over Babaluma (1974) [152 points, 16 votes]
21. Harmonia - Deluxe (1975) [155 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
20. Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band (1976) [161 points, 10 votes]
19. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star (1973) [162 points, 12 votes]
18. Lou Reed - Transformer (1972) [164 points, 16 votes]
17. Joni Mitchell - Hejira (1976) [165 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
16. The Raincoats - The Raincoats (1979) [168 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
15. Steely Dan - The Royal Scam (1976) [176 points, 11 votes, 2 first place votes]
14. Steely Dan - Aja (1977) [177 points, 16 votes]
13. Neu! - Neu! 75 (1975) [187 points, 17 votes]
12. Brian Eno - Before and After Science (1977) [187 points, 18 votes]
11. XTC - Drums and Wires (1979) [188 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:27 (ten years ago) link

this got left off my list too, but i'm glad it made it (if only for lj's sake).

xps

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Really happy to see XTC here. It deserves it's place just for the bassline on Helicopter.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Are you going all the way to #1 tonight, Johnny?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:28 (ten years ago) link

X-Ray Spex ftw!

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:29 (ten years ago) link

um, xp

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:29 (ten years ago) link

lets take a break for some pointless top 10 guessing imo

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:29 (ten years ago) link

xxp I'll pick the listing back up on Monday for the final reveal!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:30 (ten years ago) link

More rock music... But at least this means Curtis should be the token black artist in the top 10, which is nice. Or is it possible he wouldn't have made the top 100 at all? I don't think it is.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:30 (ten years ago) link

If Curtis is in the top 10, it's not as a token. It's because he was fucking awesome.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:31 (ten years ago) link

Why monday and not tomorrow? or even tonight?

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:31 (ten years ago) link

*plays Complicated Game extremely loudly*

(well, you have to otherwise you can't hear the first bit)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:31 (ten years ago) link

This poll is somehow turning out to be a mix of predictable disappointments and pleasant surprises for me, probably more of the latter...

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:31 (ten years ago) link

I'm still hoping for Burning Spear but I have no idea how realistic that hope is.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

*wonders how long it will take family to tell him to turn it down*

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

and "Complicated Game" is pure genius, i gotta say.

xps

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

haha...

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

if they do please post in chatz about it
xp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Here's a thing - Before & After Science is the only one to have picked up more votes than the #96, Horses

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:33 (ten years ago) link

Why monday and not tomorrow? or even tonight?

Because I'm tired of looking through the archives for quotable bits today. Also, more ilxors are around on weekdays, and I'd hate to bury the top 10 on a Saturday afternoon.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:34 (ten years ago) link

You're right, he is awesome. And it is cool that he'll (most likely) make the top 10, I wasn't expecting that! That will compensate for the nice-but-overrated What's Going On making it to #10 in the original poll, while the true best soul album of all time (i.e. Curtis) didn't even place.

(xxx-post)

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:36 (ten years ago) link

starting to look over my ballot and quietly mourn for all the albums I was still hanging onto hope that they might place. really bummed that no Little Feat album made the list (and there were four on my ballot).

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:36 (ten years ago) link

But all of Europe is covered in a deep blanket of snow and we have only the internet to keep us warm! not fair!

x-post to jf

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:37 (ten years ago) link

IT'S JUST A COMPLICOMPLICAYEAYE EYAYEYAYE EYAYEYEAHEYAYEAH EHUHEH

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:38 (ten years ago) link

XTC had some pretty good riddims too. Question for those who voted for Ornette Coleman's Dancing In Your Head -- how do Science Fiction, Skies of America and Body Meta compare? I've neglected 70s Coleman for too long, it's time to shop.

I'm afraid no reggae is gonna make it. No Spear, no Funky Kingston, Police & Thieves, Super Ape, War Ina Babylon, Beat Down Babylon, Satta Massagana, Flesh Of My Skin, Blood Of My Blood, Conquering Lion, Right Time and no Marley.

I can fully get behind Curtis for sure. But doesn't anyone like I'm Still In Love With You?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Body Meta is great (really great), Skies of America an elaborate failure, Science Friction I haven't heard in 30 years.

sonofstan, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:40 (ten years ago) link

Raincoats was my #1. if my #2, Modern Dance, makes it as well I'll be a happy camper. Church of Anthrax, my 3rd, doesn't stand a chance at this point. I don't know where I put x-ray spex, but it'd be nice to see them get the numbers as well. I'm definitely looking into that Dr. Buzzard record.

Fellini.Kuti, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I just realized, Prince's eponymous second album didn't place in the OG poll, and looks like it was nominated here... Could it have made the top 10? I'm not the biggest fan of that album, I didn't even notice it on the list, but there seems to be a lot of love for it here.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I make it 29 first-place votes among nos.100-11 - a lot of others must've missed the cut

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I nominated Prince's s/t and I love love love it, but I always knew it was a long shot for the poll, and there is no way it made the top 10.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:42 (ten years ago) link

(x-post)

Yeah, no reggae is a bummer. Now I feel bad for having leaving War ina Babylon out of my ballot at the last moment.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:43 (ten years ago) link

I just noticed I wasted my number 21 vote on Reproduction by The Human League. I can't believe it wasn't nominated. All this time I've been thinking it might be in with a shot.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:44 (ten years ago) link

I'm definitely looking into that Dr. Buzzard record.

I bought that out of sheer curiosity for a dollar or two a long time ago, long before I knew about the Kid Creole legacy, etc. I just liked the cover and song titles. It turned out to be soooooo amazing I almost wanted to go back to the record shop and give them a few more bucks for it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:46 (ten years ago) link

looks like Groundhogs, Ohio Players, Isley Brothers , vdgg, Parliament and tangerine dream are going to miss out. Glad Curtis will be top 10 though. Hoping Headhunters will be too.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:48 (ten years ago) link

xxp Reproduction missed the nominations (or if it didn't and I just missed it, I apologize profusely!). Someone nommed Travelogue, but it came out in 1980 and didn't qualify.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:48 (ten years ago) link

some things i ranked highly that haven't shown up yet:
Close To The Edge (maybe maybe in top 10? maybe)
Oxygene (probably not)
Rock Bottom (probably)
2112 (lol no)
Diamond Dogs (maybe)
Pawn Hearts (doubt it)
A Can of Bees (not unless all the hitchcock nerds showed up)

Tusk is a lock, Modern Dance and Rock Bottom and Curtis are probably in there, not sure about the other six

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:49 (ten years ago) link

No Dr Alimantado :(

Am listening to 'Poison Flour' right now in protest.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:50 (ten years ago) link

Close To The Edge (maybe maybe in top 10? maybe)

Pretty sure a) this isn't in there and b) if I'd shuffled the order of my ballot just a tiny bit, this'd have comfortably made the lower reaches of this poll

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:51 (ten years ago) link

OK I am no longer hoping for Minnie Ripperton to place.

girl moves (Abbott), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Diamond Dogs definitely has its fans around here.

xposts

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:51 (ten years ago) link

diamond dogs is my fave bowie so If that won Id be happy.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:52 (ten years ago) link

I'm Still in Love with You was one of three Al Green albums to make my top 10. Since along with Call Me it's usually everybody's go to Al Green record outside the greatest hits, I'm holding out hope it will place in the top 10. I've given up all hope that Explores Your Mind will be on there.
I'm also assuming no Kinks, no Aretha, no Meters, no AC/DC, no Marley. I haven't given up hope on the Beach Boys' Sunflower though. Shocked but not shocked that no Bob Marley albums are going to make it.

MumblestheRevelator, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:52 (ten years ago) link

I think about four people have said Curtis was their number one, I think it will join Tusk, Rock Bottom, Fear Of Music and maybe Autobahn in the top five.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:52 (ten years ago) link

But I didn't vote for it
xp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Curtis wasnt my no1 but its high in my poll

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Pawn Hearts otoh I could only have given 5 more points to and if it's made it then this board has the greatest lurkers on the interweb

(if it's got 75-79 points then I will rend my clothing)

haha what price yet more kraftwerk-talking heads hi-jinks at the top-end

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:54 (ten years ago) link

Reproduction was one of my top 20 guesses, I didn't realize it wasn't nominated. Maybe Green will make it. At this point I'd guess these won't make it either along with the reggae:

Joao Gilberto
Lust For Life
Real Life
Tales Of Captain Black
Live At The Witch Trials

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:55 (ten years ago) link

There's a serious dearth of hard rock and metal. Couple Zeps, couple Sabbaths and a few hard rockers near the bottom (Thin Lizzy, Van Halen, Hawkwind). Where's Judas Priest, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Slade, Motörhead, etc?

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:57 (ten years ago) link

really hope the Boston s/t gets some rep.

moron oil (Gukbe), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:58 (ten years ago) link

Maybe a split vote will stop Iggy appearing. I just can't see one of them being in the top 10 and the other missing out. I voted Lust For Life.

For some reason I can't see Magazine making it this high. It would be a great surprise.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:59 (ten years ago) link

I was really hoping YMO (specifically SSS) would make it, but there's little chance now.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Friday, 8 January 2010 23:59 (ten years ago) link

What about Paul Simon, Randy Newman or Elton John?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:00 (ten years ago) link

Looks like I must have voted for the wrong Magazine album, cos everyone keeps mentioning Real Life and I went with Secondhand Daylight.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:02 (ten years ago) link

I voted Secondhand Daylight higher.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Just some numbers to chew on:

1,258 albums were nominated
884 received votes
568 received more than 1 vote
6 received first place votes and no others
#200 had 46 points with 8 votes
#101 had 80 points with 5 votes and 1 first place vote

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:06 (ten years ago) link

1,258 albums were nominated
884 received votes

I don't understand this. Surely you'll vote for it yourself at least?

JF, seeing as I know it's not getting in, could ya tell me if my number one was one of those six? :D

(or whether it was the one that lost on goal-difference, ha)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:12 (ten years ago) link

I was really hoping YMO (specifically SSS) would make it, but there's little chance now.

This was my #1! So you never know.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:14 (ten years ago) link

Some people nominated way more albums than they could possibly vote for, hence the gap.

And yes, yours was one of the six. xp

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:15 (ten years ago) link

Surely you'll vote for it yourself at least?

Well, not all of them. At least not if you nominated over a hundred and fifty albums, like some random fool did in the nominating process.

MumblestheRevelator, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:15 (ten years ago) link

And yes, yours was one of the six.

I'M A MONSTERRRRRRRR

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:18 (ten years ago) link

I was really hoping YMO (specifically SSS) would make it, but there's little chance now.

This was my #1! So you never know.

― Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:14 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Another vote for that from me. I think it was in my top 20.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:19 (ten years ago) link

xxp

Well you have to balance that view against all the complaints that "X wasn't nominated." Nothing wrong with having a big pool, IMO. (Said the random fool, perhaps.)

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:20 (ten years ago) link

Exactly. I guess I'm the random fool who nominated about 90, since Fever said it was unlimited. Just so we didn't have to hear too much whining about ones that are missed. You're welcome.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:23 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure I was the lone voter for my number one. A sad badge to share with you lj.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:23 (ten years ago) link

So far, I think the only album that's been notably missed is Reproduction (and it may have been nominated and I just missed it... I'm scared to go look).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Well you have to balance that view against all the complaints that "X wasn't nominated."

Oh, I certainly agree, especially seeing as I was the aforementioned random fool.

MumblestheRevelator, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Question for those who voted for Ornette Coleman's Dancing In Your Head -- how do Science Fiction, Skies of America and Body Meta compare? I've neglected 70s Coleman for too long, it's time to shop.

i didnt vote, but these albums are all essential. SCI-FI is king for me, then DANCING, then a tie bw BODY META and SKIES. SKIES always reminds me a little of alice c's WORLD GALAXY, just not as successful in its incorporation of orchestra into a 70s american free jazz context. BODY META is the most strident, ORNETTE AT 12 is a chill record, and SCI-FI might be my all-time favorite ornette album.

69, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:25 (ten years ago) link

xp EZ, someone else voted for yours too.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:26 (ten years ago) link

xxp Oh I didn't see yours. I was this close to tellin' you to suckit!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:28 (ten years ago) link

EZS, it's OK, ILM is a place for monsters. Society SHUNS us!!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:30 (ten years ago) link


6 received first place votes and no others

Curious about these!

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:32 (ten years ago) link

One of them was Van Der Graaf Generator - Still Life (1976) [40 points, 1 vote, 1 first-place vote]

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:33 (ten years ago) link

#200 had 46 points with 8 votes
#101 had 80 points with 5 votes and 1 first place vote

I'd just like to re-emphasize this stat. With an additional first place vote (or less), any album between 101-200 could've placed in this countdown. When you guys see what's in the range, there will be a lot of *facepalm* action going on.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:33 (ten years ago) link

xp EZ, someone else voted for yours too.

That's a surprise. Truly.

I'm not a monster!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:37 (ten years ago) link

ur snappin, u must be like a killer shark or smthn

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:39 (ten years ago) link

So far, I think the only album that's been notably missed is Reproduction (and it may have been nominated and I just missed it... I'm scared to go look).

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:25 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

I actually looked into it, someone had nominated Travelogue which came out in 80. I did think I had seen them in the nomination process. It was 126 in the original poll but obviously not many people missed it this time round. Maybe when the third 70's poll gets made they will triumph?

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:40 (ten years ago) link

Live At The Witch Trials

No way this was on this poll! Don't think there was any Fall on it

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:43 (ten years ago) link

I was really hoping YMO (specifically SSS) would make it, but there's little chance now.

I voted for the self-titled one. Is Solid State Survivor even better? I don't know it at all.

I'm assuming my number one got other votes. LA DUSSELDORF FOR TOP 5.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:50 (ten years ago) link

Solid State Survivor is great and I don't know why I didn't vote for it. Almost shat myself when 'Behind The Mask' came on though, cos (duh) I had no idea that was a YMO song.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:56 (ten years ago) link

^ the first time I heard SSS i mean

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2010 00:58 (ten years ago) link

Eww @ Steely Dan even existing btw

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:02 (ten years ago) link

^^^ OTM.

I will check out SSS as soon as possible, I guess.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:06 (ten years ago) link

The self-titled YMO is pretty good, but SSS is a total leap forward imo. It's awesome!

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:13 (ten years ago) link

I'm definitely looking into that Dr. Buzzard record.

Based on quickie audio clips alone, I added that to my to-buy list. I haven't gotten to hear it yet though. I like disco but have only a superficial knowledge of it. Based on the cover and title, I never would have imagined this was a disco album.

Despite my griping about the outcomes, I've enjoyed immensely sifting through the nominations and discovering and re-discovering a bunch of albums I hope to get to in the coming years.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:18 (ten years ago) link

i forgot to vote in this but Aja would have been top 5 for me, maybe number 1, which would have put it into the top 10, so u sad sad SD haters had a lucky escape

jabba hands, Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm Still in Love with You was one of three Al Green albums to make my top 10. Since along with Call Me it's usually everybody's go to Al Green record outside the greatest hits, I'm holding out hope it will place in the top 10. I've given up all hope that Explores Your Mind will be on there.

― MumblestheRevelator, Friday, January 8, 2010 6:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I think there's a lot of vote-splitting going on with Al Green (the one I voted for is Al Green Gets Next To You, mainly because I just started working through his catalog chronologically recently), and even Call Me was #21 on the first poll, so there's no way he's placing anything in the top 10 here.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:37 (ten years ago) link

Check out the points per vote on Dr. Buzzard's - 16.1! It was in my top 5.

The Reverend, Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:07 (ten years ago) link

So what in all is in the top 10?

Crutis
Tusk
Autobahn
Music of My Mind

What else?

The Reverend, Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:08 (ten years ago) link

Fear Of Music, maybe Diamond Dogs

I thought it would've shown up by now, but I'm not sure if it's realistic at all to think Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! might be in the top 10.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:15 (ten years ago) link

I was shocked that Devo wasn't on the original poll tbh. I had it pretty high on my ballot for this one. I hope it turns up. Seems like the kind of thing ILX would dig.

moron oil (Gukbe), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:17 (ten years ago) link

Yes, Fear of Music and Diamond Dogs. I'm gonna call no on Devo

The Reverend, Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:26 (ten years ago) link

I think Devo will make it.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:27 (ten years ago) link

Still holding out hope for Rock Bottom.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:32 (ten years ago) link

I need to find a copy of this Dr. Buzzard's. Never heard (or even heard of) them. The album cover is awesome.

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:37 (ten years ago) link

I was sure Sail Away and Modern Dance would get in, and am bummed no one's even mentioned (GI) and (I'm) Stranded.

dad a, Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:51 (ten years ago) link

6 received first place votes and no others

Curious about these!

yo tambien, pretty sure mine falls in this category now that we're 90% finished

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:53 (ten years ago) link

this poll could really use some goblin imo, but doesn't look like that will happen

psychgawsple, Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:54 (ten years ago) link

I think Fear of Music and All Things Must Pass still have a shot.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:56 (ten years ago) link

Devo is a lock for top five, I'm calling it now.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 9 January 2010 03:57 (ten years ago) link

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/SiteNewAnswersControllerServlet

three people have already claimed this as #1 so it'll show soon

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:07 (ten years ago) link

Albums in my top 10 that haven't placed:

The Pleasure Principle
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
The Modern Dance
Autobahn
Small Change

Small Change is the least likely to make it. I reckon Pleasure Principle is the second least likely. The other three are probably in there.

As far as Bowie goes, I'd be surprised if Diamond Dogs polled better than Alladin Sane.

Voted for 4 yes albums. Figured one would make it, but doubt it now.

Also wish those Van Morrison and Joni Mitchell albums were The Vibrators and The Dead Boys and Judas Priest and Motorhead or at least albums I'd never heard of and could look into.

Mister Jim, Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:21 (ten years ago) link

Amazingly, there was no Elton John in the first poll, and hasn't been any in this one so far. Do y'all think Goodbye Yellow Brick Road or Honky Chateau have a shot at the top 10?

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:24 (ten years ago) link

Still no Queen either...maybe A Night At The Opera?

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:27 (ten years ago) link

knowing this asshole board, I wouldn't be surprised to see Metal Machine Music in the top 10.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:28 (ten years ago) link

only one of my top 10 has charted so far (raincoats). and of the other nine, i think only modern dance is likely to place. (still hoping for x-ray spex, but i would've figured them for more the 40s or 50s than top 10.) actually raincoats is the only one of my top 20 to show up so far. of my 11-20, fear of music seems like a lock, and i give sail away an outside chance.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:28 (ten years ago) link

(i didn't figure my #14 vote for ratfucker would really be enough to place it...)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:30 (ten years ago) link

knowing this asshole board, I wouldn't be surprised to see Metal Machine Music in the top 10.

It made my ballot. What makes this board an asshole btw?

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:32 (ten years ago) link

9 of my top 10 has placed already, and I know Bat Out Of Hell ain't gonna make it.

Big S.H.I.T. Poppin' (some dude), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:32 (ten years ago) link

individuals sincerely liking that record is fine and dandy, i'm just saying this board's electorate collectively naming it one of the 10 best albums of the 1970s would be a total dick move

some dude, Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:38 (ten years ago) link

But that would only happen if a bunch of individuals sincerely liked it.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:41 (ten years ago) link

i'm still holding out for 'berlin' to appear

journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:41 (ten years ago) link

I don't know why I said 9 out of 10 instead of 8, Sailin' Shoes hasn't made it either as I already lamented

some dude, Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:42 (ten years ago) link

oh man i should've voted for sailin' shoes. shit.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:43 (ten years ago) link

Of my top ten, three have placed:

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
One Nation Under a Groove
Fullfillingness' First Finale

Three will likely place:

Curtis
Autobahn
Music of My Mind

And four probably won't:

Head Hunters
Perfect Angel
Shakara
Young, Gifted and Black

The Reverend, Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:45 (ten years ago) link

It made my ballot too. (xp)

I don't see this board having a collective, or getting together to make any dick moves in a ballot initiative. some dude be projecting.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Saturday, 9 January 2010 04:46 (ten years ago) link

I've had four from my top 10 place: The Belle Album, Rocket to Russia, Horses, and Shake Some Action. I have two more I'm holding out hope for (I'm Still in Love with You, Sunflower) and four I've given up on (Muswell Hillbillies, Quadrophrenia, Ramones Leave Home, and Al Green Explores Your Mind).

MumblestheRevelator, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:09 (ten years ago) link

It's so hard for me to not start posting the top 10 right now, you guys. I feel like I'm waiting to open a christmas present or something. I may not make it to Monday morning...

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:17 (ten years ago) link

Do it! Do it!

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:32 (ten years ago) link

So is Joni Mitchell pretty much it for female folkies in this poll? Did any one else vote for the Roches or Kate & Anna McGarrigle?

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:40 (ten years ago) link

no, but i did vote for vashti & judee

journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:46 (ten years ago) link

5 of my top ten made it yet (hejira, before & after science, court & spark, dark side of the moon, harvest) and i reckon the modern dance will make it into the top ten and nighthawks at the diner has a small chance but what about my number one? i suppose it is one of the six with only one vote, right?

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:21 (ten years ago) link

i suppose it is one of the six with only one vote, right?

Sadly right.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:26 (ten years ago) link

So we have somewhere in the 200+ range:
Keith Jarrett - Sun Bear Concerts (1976) [40 points, 1 vote, 1 first-place vote]
Van Der Graaf Generator - Still Life (1976) [40 points, 1 vote, 1 first-place vote]

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:40 (ten years ago) link

I'm thinking Tom Waits suffered from vote splitting. Incredulous how you could go with anything but Small Change, which I was sure was gonna place after Closing Time did. Oh well.

Mister Jim, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:43 (ten years ago) link

hey that todd rundgren album is pretty neat, thankin u guyz for reminding me to listen to it

psychgawsple, Saturday, 9 January 2010 07:05 (ten years ago) link

three of my top ten already on the list (Get Up With It, This Heat, Neu!75). of the remaining seven i can only see Rock Bottom making it now, which means there sadly won't be any Judee Sill on this list.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 January 2010 07:31 (ten years ago) link

Regarding the metal question, I've been listening to metal more than ever the past few years. Pretty much every show I saw the second half of the year was metal or stoner rock. But my ballot would have to be extended to 100 choices to get in some Judas Priest, AC/DC, Motörhead and of course, more Black Sabbath. As much as Stained Class is a quintessential metal album and Highway to Hell nearly perfect, their goat horns are still drowned out by all the other amazing albums. I still love listening to Rainbow, Uriah Heep, Scorpions, Budgie, Riot, UFO and even Kiss too, though their imperfections keep them ranked somewhere under my top 200. It was just a great decade for so many types of music.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 January 2010 08:02 (ten years ago) link

Al Green Explores Your Mind

Christ I read that as "Al Gore explores your mind" and felt ill.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Saturday, 9 January 2010 08:50 (ten years ago) link

So is Joni Mitchell pretty much it for female folkies in this poll? Did any one else vote for the Roches or Kate & Anna McGarrigle?

Nope, I had Sandy Denny on my ballot.

My top tens that won't make it: Captain Beefheart Clear Spot; Faust The Faust Tapes; John Martyn Bless the Weather...

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2010 09:00 (ten years ago) link

I nominated a Sandy Denny album, but didn't actually vote for it. :(

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 09:58 (ten years ago) link

then i wish u ill

velko, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:02 (ten years ago) link

Mine was the last ballot cast. It wouldn't have made a difference either way.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:04 (ten years ago) link

maybe next time around ; )

velko, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:07 (ten years ago) link

Looks like you people are better attuned to ILX consensus than I am, out of my entire ballot only one album has placed so far, and it seems quite likely that only one more will.

I'm still hoping there's a minuscule chance Minnie Riperton or Alice Coltrane might make it. There hasn't been a single album by a black female singer or bandleader in this poll yet, and in the previous poll only one such album (by Donna Summer) made it. That seems kinda sad, considering that Riperton, Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Roberta Flack, Nina Simone, LaBelle, Miriam Makeba, Patti Austin, etc were all releasing top albums during the 70s.

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:23 (ten years ago) link

Riperton, Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Roberta Flack, Nina Simone, LaBelle, Miriam Makeba, Patti Austin, etc

I don't think anyone would disagree that they all released stellar albums in the 1970s, and our piddly little poll on ILM doesn't take anything away from them whatsoever. I wish there was room for every single great artist to place, but that would mean there are only 100 of them and that would be terrible, wouldn't it? Even coming from the poll runner (me), I don't think this thing is very important in the grand scheme. If this thread serves its purpose, you've turned our ear towards some things we might have missed, and we've done the same for you (though Steely Dan seems to have been a misfire).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:04 (ten years ago) link

It's made me go back and listent o some stuff again, and I've been surprised by a few placing (XTC?) - I own, or have owned 59 out of 90, and, as far as I can see, there are no records that I haven't at least heard some of. I agree with Tuomas that Jazz and soul are hugely unrepresented, although my own vote was similarly lopsided. I'm sure part of it is the split vote effect: jazz and soul artists tend to be more productive: There were -what? - 5 Alice Coltrane records on the long list, 4 or 5 Minnie Ripertons (and I could have voted for any one of three) on the other hand, it appears not to have hurt Funkadelic.

sonofstan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:27 (ten years ago) link

Funkadelic is the de facto funk choice for a lot of people. I didn't vote for or nominate any Parliament or Funkadelic, but I nominated and voted for The Gap Band (and was the only one who did). All depends on what you like I think (also, I only know two of Funkadelic's albums anyway, and one of them placed in the first poll). Would've liked to see more Commodores and Kook & The Gang love too, but "Brick House" seems to be the extent of most people's Commodores knowledge.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:32 (ten years ago) link

Kook=Kool obvs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:32 (ten years ago) link

My top tens that won't make it: ...John Martyn Bless the Weather..

I voted for this too, but not top ten.

President Keyes, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:44 (ten years ago) link

I had the Roches WAY up there, but still doubt they'll show at this late date.

wanna be shartin' somethin' (WmC), Saturday, 9 January 2010 14:15 (ten years ago) link

Did any one else vote for the Roches or Kate & Anna McGarrigle?

i voted for the first mcgarrigles album. also for the silly sisters album, tho i knew that had no prayer.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 14:34 (ten years ago) link

Kate & Anna were on my longlist, but got cut. And I gave Vashti all of one point, I'm afraid.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 14:42 (ten years ago) link

Now, I'm going to check the Silly Sisters and Just Another Diamond Day just for the mentions in the thread. Doesn't even matter if they place at this point. When people post their individual ballots after the top ten gets posted, even more opportunities for exploration will be opened up beyond the actual poll results for those so inclined.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:05 (ten years ago) link

I guess I need to re-listen to some Minnie Riperton. Does she really have some top-200 worthy albums, or are we just trying to fill a quota for black women? Strictly speaking soul, would some of you honestly prefer her over, say, Bill Withers, Terry Callier, Betty Davis, O.V. Wright, Temptations, Donny Hathaway, Aretha Franklin, Shuggie Otis, Doris Duke, Syreeta, Gloria Jones, Millie Jackson, Laura Lee, Jean Knight, Isley Brothers, Fontella Bass, Tyrone Davis, The J.B.'s, Swamp Dogg, The Impressions, Bobby Womack, The O'Jays, Marie Lyons and Johnnie Taylor? If so then I need to get some yesterday!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:25 (ten years ago) link

My top-rated funk/soul album was from Shuggie Otis. Had high hopes that we'd be seeing him on this list, but alas....

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:30 (ten years ago) link

My favourite 70's pop song (more or less) is actually Swedish and nobody's heard it: DID YOU GIVE THE WORLD SOME LOVE TODAY, BABE?

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Oh, Doris. Cool.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:36 (ten years ago) link

I've given up hope for Fairuz, but not yet for Carole King - this poll needs her

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:50 (ten years ago) link

I guess I need to re-listen to some Minnie Riperton. Does she really have some top-200 worthy albums, or are we just trying to fill a quota for black women? Strictly speaking soul, would some of you honestly prefer her over, say, Bill Withers, Terry Callier, Betty Davis, O.V. Wright, Temptations, Donny Hathaway, Aretha Franklin, Shuggie Otis, Doris Duke, Syreeta, Gloria Jones, Millie Jackson, Laura Lee, Jean Knight, Isley Brothers, Fontella Bass, Tyrone Davis, The J.B.'s, Swamp Dogg, The Impressions, Bobby Womack, The O'Jays, Marie Lyons and Johnnie Taylor?

I feel Come into My Garden and maybe Adventures in Paradise are definitely top 200 material (though many people would probably switch AiP for Perfect Angel). I certainly prefer her over Betty Davis or The J.B.'s or Bobby Womack or Fontella Bass or The O'Jays. But it's true that her music is of acquired taste: it's more polished and pretty than raw and gritty. Now, I love raw and gritty soul too, but I think Minnie is great exactly because she doesn't fit into the stereotypical soul mould.

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 16:18 (ten years ago) link

If you like this kind of music, you're gonna love her first three solo albums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afT9MiBqck8

But if it does nothing to you, you probably shouldn't check them out.

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 16:24 (ten years ago) link

The thing is I did check her out last year when I made my soul list. I had MP3s of her first three albums. They must not have made a big impression, because I deleted them. Now that I think about it I probably did intend to buy a CD but forgot to add to my list. I'm going to pick up a used CD of Come To My Garden today, as I'm pretty sure that's the one I wanted first.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 January 2010 16:54 (ten years ago) link

Check out Rotary Connection as well if you haven't already

sonofstan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:18 (ten years ago) link

You guys, screw Monday. I'm going to come back here in one hour and start finishing up. Monday people can still find the results... they're not going anywhere.

!!!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:21 (ten years ago) link

!!!

moron oil (Gukbe), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:22 (ten years ago) link

dont give into peer pressure johnny!

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Johnny ignore the arsenal fan post away!

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:23 (ten years ago) link

No peer pressure. I just don't want to kill momentum by waiting. xp

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:24 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, give us the results!

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:25 (ten years ago) link

(x-post)

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah
xxp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:26 (ten years ago) link

xpost

I'd rate Come to my Garden as one of top 50 albums of all time, I just love how lush it all sounds. Perfect Angel is a classic too, it's very Stevie Wonder in places. I actually relistened to Adventures In Paradise recently which was a lot better than I remembered. It's a bit more song based and straight forward. Adventures and Perfect Angel are available on a CD together which is always pretty cheap.

I bought that double disc anthology of The Rotary Connection but never got into it. I think it was a bit too jazz for me.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:27 (ten years ago) link

xxxxpost

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:27 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4VMDxSyLAU

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Is there anything Laibach won't cover?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:37 (ten years ago) link

i don't know. that was just one of the first things coming up on youtube looking for countdown...

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:43 (ten years ago) link

Johnny ignore the arsenal fan post away!

What about us yanks? The NFL playoffs are starting today. Even if my team isn't playing until tomorrow.

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:51 (ten years ago) link

I'll be watching the games as I post!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:52 (ten years ago) link

fake football doesnt matter :)

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:54 (ten years ago) link

Thank goodness I now have laptop!

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Can we not argue whose football is better football right now? Not in the mood.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:56 (ten years ago) link

fake football doesnt matter :)

Heh, we say the same thing in U.S. (usually when talking about the CFL).

cheesy porn film background banjo music (KMS), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:58 (ten years ago) link

*awaits King Boy Pato to pile in with jpgs of short-shorted antipodeans*

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 17:59 (ten years ago) link

Jeez, you guys, as much as I'd really like to engage in a "styles of football" convo with you all, I'm sure there's an alternate forum for it. (Also, I would never clown on the CFL... they're allowed to celebrate, and they get really creative with it. Ochocinco would be considered tame.)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:02 (ten years ago) link

It will stop as soon as you post the next album!

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:18 (ten years ago) link

10. Yes - Close to the Edge (1972) [189 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Yes always put me in a great mood. My favorite song by them is probably "Siberian Khatru" from Close to the Edge -- it's got a funky part, great bassline, and a really dramatic, bittersweet part. Characteristically wonderful vocal harmony and counterpoint throughout, too.

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Monday, April 12, 2004 8:36 PM (5 years ago)

Listening to Close to the Edge today (after having found my cassette tape, yes cassette tape, again), it occurred to me that, perhaps, just perhaps, Rick Wakeman actually had a great sense of humor, even if he didn't realize it. I mean the harpsichord break on Siberian Khartu is effing hilarious. The prance-y electric rennaisance faire shit is a bit too much though.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:30 PM (5 years ago)

I just took out Close to the Edge a day or two ago. I already knew the live versions of the title track and "Siberian Khatru" and had "And You and I" on Classic Yes but I'd never listened to the whole studio album. I'm a little surprised that so many people think it's Yes' peak. It seems much more dated and melodramatic than The Yes Album and Fragile, although the nice bits are wonderful enough to get me to put it on. "Close to the Edge" especially - the opening guitar solo is fab evil fusion, the vocal melodies and harmonies are gorgeous, the grooves are great; then they have to throw in all that clunky organ banging (at around 14:00 in) and that prancey Robin Hood crap (just before the ambient part). But I guess that might be the deal with Yes much of the time - enough great parts to make you want to sit through the cheese. "Siberian Khatru" is classic of course.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, October 2, 2003 11:31 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:18 (ten years ago) link

id rather talk football now :(

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Yes? No!

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:20 (ten years ago) link

haha! (I agree w/ both of you btw)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:21 (ten years ago) link

i guess prog had to be in the top ten. better now then later.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:22 (ten years ago) link

omg my grammar: than later

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:23 (ten years ago) link

I don't know this album and doubt very much that I'd like it, but "prancey Robin Hood crap" has got to be great

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:23 (ten years ago) link

I have to go drink some beer, but I hope the rest of the top 10 will turn out to be better than that...

Tuomas, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:24 (ten years ago) link

BOOOOOOOOOM poll further forgiven

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:24 (ten years ago) link

also you disgusting savages have been FOILED

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Pawn Hearts at #9 hopefully

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:25 (ten years ago) link

#9? I'll take #5 at the least, please :D

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:25 (ten years ago) link

I hope it's 9 fucking concept albums.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:26 (ten years ago) link

Yes ahead of King Crimson and VDGG would be a travesty.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:27 (ten years ago) link

Tubular Bells for #1

an executive by day and a wild man by night (snoball), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Oof. When you guys talk about prog I always assume you mean Magma-type good stuff, not this balls.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:28 (ten years ago) link

NV you didn't vote, because I was the only Still Life voter. I know for a fucken fact that if you'd voted, at least Pawn Hearts would've made it ;_;

That's not even the best Yes album. (Relayer would be the one for me)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:29 (ten years ago) link

We mean the whole caboodle, emil.y! Open minds and ears never hurt nobody :P

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Entire top 100 ahead of VdGG is a travesty but I did promise not to complain.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:31 (ten years ago) link

9. Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance (1978) [205 points, 20 votes]

http://i48.tinypic.com/34qw5zn.jpg

Pere Ubu always sounded to me like it came from some apocalyptic future. I mean, we're not anywhere near nuclear armageddon yet but might as well prepare for the worst and dig out Modern Dance and Dub Housing.

― adamj, Friday, September 19, 2008 3:17 AM (1 year ago)

_The Modern Dance_ will split your head right open. At a record store, I overheard someone perusing the Pere Ubu vinyl section, talking to their friend. She picked up _The Modern Dance_ and said "Wow, this is worth like $100, and they're selling it for $12!". Of course, she was holding a *shrink-wrapped* record, and it was the relatively recent Geffen reissue. For about half a second, I considered saying something, but that would probably have been rude, and hey, more money to Pere Ubu is good!

― Ernest Paik, Thursday, May 9, 2002 8:00 PM (7 years ago)

154 is a good counterpart to pere ubu's first.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, December 6, 2003 10:06 AM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:32 (ten years ago) link

The first 5 minutes of Close To The Edge are as bizarre as anything by King Crimson et al IMO

xpost

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Louis it takes a very special poll to tempt me to make a random list of stuff I like and as much as I've enjoyed reading this, as a concept it's ridiculous.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:33 (ten years ago) link

I think Close To The Edge was my #1, but my ballot's stuck on a different machine. I have loved it since the age of 12.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Oh, CTTE is a better ALBUM than any ALBUM KC released*, but KC aren't so much suited by the album format - short, sharp bursts of sonic terror are their thing. CTTE has always thrilled me.

*gave Red the same number of points but a higher placing because that's the order I wrote them down in

Would I like Pere Ubu?

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:36 (ten years ago) link

(Admittedly CTTE hasn't thrilled me as MUCH recently, and I'm not religiously obsessive about it any more, but it's still got it)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Chunks of Ubu are a bit primitivist for your tastes maybe but fuck yeah that album deserves to be there.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Oh, this poll has finally started to match my votes: I also voted for The Modern Dance, which I have loved since the age of 16.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:38 (ten years ago) link

Louis, I feel confident you'd love The Modern Dance.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:40 (ten years ago) link

The 154 comparison is one that intrigues me. Of all the albums in the original top 100, that's the one that would have broken VdGG's hegemony over my top 3

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:41 (ten years ago) link

I don't see much of a Wire thing tbh, Pere Ubu are less reigned-in I think and Thomas' voice is legitimately one of the 7 Wonders of Pop. There is a dark insular thrum to the middle of TMD I suppose.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

i didn't hear pere ubu until after i'd heard tons of post-ubu stuff influenced by them. it was one of those things that filled in a lot of missing pieces. it was sort of a tough call between modern dance and dub housing for me, but went with dance for iconic-ness.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:45 (ten years ago) link

close to the edge was my #2 neato! it's catchy as hell, full of pop hooks, and doesn't feel nearly as laborious as some other prog "classics". glad to see prog at least make a cameo up here.

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Pere Ubu are less reigned-in I think

Much as Wire's grasp of composition, tension and restraint is godly, this could be a very very awesome thing indeed.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:49 (ten years ago) link

x-post

i think you will like "the modern dance", louis. if you have open ears that is. it's a mind-shattering album, weirder than "trout mask replica" but also more variate. that blurb about armaggedon, nuclear war and apocalypse nails it quite well. it's an album from outer space, imagine the music of extraterrestrians arriving on planet earth when there is nothing left there. or something like that. it was my 1978 pick in my 40 years, 40 albums project.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:49 (ten years ago) link

I will eat my hat if LJ doesn't like The Modern Dance.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:50 (ten years ago) link

if you have open ears that is

i am well-known for my musical conservatism and refusal to be challenged

ha ok guys i'll be ON IT in the ASAP. AIM i may even read your piece!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:52 (ten years ago) link

I'm not sure Pere Ubu did anything much worth listening to after Dub Housing, but those first 3 (including Terminal Tower) still haven't been surpassed for alienation.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:54 (ten years ago) link

8. Kraftwerk - Autobahn (1974) [230 points, 25 votes]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2dbjpg3.jpg

My favorite Kraftwerk album (also the first I knew well.) Title track is loads of fun and holds my interest throughout, amazing considering its length. But the instrumental B-side I probably listen to more now. Love "Morning Walk" and the 2nd "Kometmelodie." Warm and shimmery, unlike the next three records (which are still great.)

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:18 PM (5 years ago)

Agreed on the greatness of side two -- Autobahn (the track) can sound a bit primitive these days, but the ambient side has aged much better. It predates the fluffy bunny ambient of the KLF/Orb et al by fifteen years.
Classic, obviously.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:22 PM (5 years ago)

How in gods name do you write a 22 minute track and keep in interesting the entire time? How do you write motifs that keep people's attention through that kind of duration of time? I mean Kraftwerk slam-dunked the concept of making audio portraits with Autobahn. When you listen to that track you don't think of the programming, the writing, the performances... You think of a beautful spring day in a well designed german automobile elegantly travelling through the german countryside. You can see the hills and roadsigns, you climb and decend through a winding valley.

― The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Friday, March 26, 2004 1:09 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:54 (ten years ago) link

Fantastic record (PU not Yes) but, I have to say, a record I admire more often that play.

sonofstan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:55 (ten years ago) link

3 of my votes in a row! 666 by Aphrodites Child next please.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Great to see Kraftwerk in the top ten again, they were number 8 in the 80's poll too.

Really glad to see Pere Ubu so high, Dub Housing got my vote but they are both classics.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:58 (ten years ago) link

the barbaric teutons strike back and beat the knights of engeland! to be honest i thought "autobahn" was a joke in 1974 and still think the same now. at least it is not unpleasant...

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:00 (ten years ago) link

I meant to warn everybody I'd be SBing anyone who dropped a challop on Autobahn.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:01 (ten years ago) link

That makes three albums in a row that were absolutely crucial to the development of my appreciation of music. Autobahn was the first album I played on my first stereo system, Christmas 1975.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Anyone looking for a place to start w/Minnie Riperton should look at the 2-CD collection Petals bcz it has some of her earliest stuff, some stuff w/Rotary Connection, all her singles, and the best tracks off otherwise weaker albums "Minnie" and "Love Lives Forever." It's really solid.

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:05 (ten years ago) link

7. Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda (1970) [248 points, 19 votes]

http://i46.tinypic.com/10mplyu.jpg

Journey In Satchidananda has possibly the best opening minute of anything ever recorded by anyone.

― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:06 AM (4 months ago)

Journey in Satchidananda - definitely my favorite of all of her albums (and one of my favorite albums of all time). the addition of the tamboura, oud and bells really sets this album over the edge for me. and pharoah's playing is just amazing. i put this on for dinner parties and even though it's kinda out, after a few glasses of wine, we're all passed out on the floor in bliss.

― JasonD (JasonD), Monday, July 7, 2003 6:04 PM (6 years ago)

omigod. thank you guys for convincing me to get "journey in satchidananda". within 5 seconds, i was knocked on my ass by this album. now, 5 whole minutes in, im comatose with awesome-music-shock.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:26 PM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

wow.....

sonofstan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:11 (ten years ago) link

Tuomas is happy at last

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:11 (ten years ago) link

I need to check that out.

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

I just hope Headhunters makes it too

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

Abbott you need to, it's awesome.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

Love this (and voted for it) but I still think I prefer the Pharoah Sanders albums from the same period. He's such a big presence on the AC albums I think of them as extensions of his records anyway.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Ooh. I don't know nearly enough Alice Coltrane, I shall check this one out, definitely.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:13 (ten years ago) link

I have so far voted for all of the top 10

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:14 (ten years ago) link

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD @ Alice making it. <3 u ilm.

Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:14 (ten years ago) link

xxp

yeah Pharoah is my fave too

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Top 11 so far is doing very, very well for itself :) and I would like to hear all the records from it that I haven't

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Alice Coltrane was my no. 3, really didn't think it was going to make it in so am happy with this.

Gavin in Leeds, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:20 (ten years ago) link

6. X Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents (1978) [263 points, 20 votes, 3 first place votes]

http://i47.tinypic.com/2zf785j.jpg

X-Ray Spex couldn't possibly be punk - they were far too technically proficient on their instruments!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, August 18, 2003 5:11 AM (6 years ago)

Sure, the lyrics and ideas don't stand up to any kind of analysis. Who cares? This is great, great rock and roll! The sax is like a foghorn and the guitar is a late 70's son-of-Mick Ronson glam-punk chug. And Poly - tea cosy hat, teeth braces and dirty mac! God, what I'd give to see a band like X-Ray Spex on TOTP today!!

"IIIIIIIdentity is the Crrrrrrrriiiiisssis, can't you seeeeee?"

― Dr. C, Monday, April 9, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

I think Germfree Adolescents stands up better than most of the other firstgen punk records. The lyrics aren't cringeworthy, they're FUNNY! The title track is excellent pop, there are some massive rockers, and Poly Styrene is one of the three or four most compelling personalities that U.K. punk ever produced.

― J, Thursday, April 4, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:23 (ten years ago) link

The high positions of that and XTC have been the biggest shocks in the list for me.

Which album is going to join Tusk, Curtis, Fear of Music and Rock Bottom in the top 5?

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:29 (ten years ago) link

i havent even heard of x-ray specs until this thread is that bad?

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:30 (ten years ago) link

Headhunters hopefully
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Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:30 (ten years ago) link

the high xtc was my fault though!

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:31 (ten years ago) link

i can confirm that sarahel, currently on self-imposed ilxile, had x-ray spex as her #1. apparently i might like it.

the high xtc was their own fault for being so damn saucy

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:36 (ten years ago) link

5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom (1974) [307 points, 19 votes, 5 first place votes]

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Rock Bottom is clearly some kind of achievement and often very moving and beautiful -- even if I do sometimes find it to be willfully arty when I want it to be direct and distant when I want it to be emotional. As a result, it often feels a bit more like an extraordinary and unique experiment than Wyatt's raison d'être. And given how remarkable the rest of his career has proven to be, I'm not sure that's an altogether bad thing.

― Knave Tin Odle (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:27 PM (1 year ago)

the album is very melancholic--it's the urgent combination of melancholy and whimsy (blended such that you often can't tell them apart) that is a big part of what makes this record so special to me. the wordless vocalizing at the end of the first track (??) is one of the most powerfully ... desolate stretches of music i know. such things are in the ear of the listener, of course. but considering the circumstances under which it was made it's not hard to imagine depression being one of many states that is being evoked in rock bottom.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, September 17, 2004 3:30 AM (5 years ago)

Rock Bottom is about someone finding their way back to the world and - vide closing Cutler recitative - learning to laugh again.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, September 17, 2004 5:02 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:40 (ten years ago) link

I didn't mean to imply the position of Xtc was bad I actually voted for them too. I do like the X Ray Spex album quite a lot too I'm just shocked they both did so well. Maybe Devo or Magazine are in with a shot?

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:41 (ten years ago) link

*whew* now I don't have to feel bad about leaving Rock Bottom off my list

ok

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:41 (ten years ago) link

x-post I didn't hear X-Ray Spex until a few years ago and it was like a revelation--explaining all of those local bands I heard in the 90s with a shouting female singer and a skronky sax.

President Keyes, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:43 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, surely Devo are going to be top 5? Unless there is some massive ilx wrongheadedness that I have hitherto missed.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:43 (ten years ago) link

i cant see devo missing out and sadly i can see headhunters missing

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:44 (ten years ago) link

Oh yes! It's (going to be) Devo.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:44 (ten years ago) link

starting to realize the rest of ILM does not consider early Joe Jackson the crowning achievement of humanity, btw

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:46 (ten years ago) link

I put "I'm The Man" 20th in my ballot!!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:46 (ten years ago) link

also FIVE first-place votes for RB well I'll be

I mean it is *awesome* and all

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:48 (ten years ago) link

(I maintain that Soft Machine - Third is better, as I've said!)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:48 (ten years ago) link

Really enjoying this reveal as unlike the other polls I've no idea what's going to be posted, though I'd be gobsmacked if Iggy, Roxy and Tusk missed out.

Bing Crosby, are you listening? (Billy Dods), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:48 (ten years ago) link

Yeah Alice! Journey was my #3 as well, but depending on my mood it could have been #1 as well.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:50 (ten years ago) link

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned McCartney's Ram! That was one my "boring" picks that I figured would be way up on the list, but it's nowhere to be found.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:50 (ten years ago) link

ilx is pretty anti-mccartney as a whole though

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:51 (ten years ago) link

4. Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo (1978) [310 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Haven't done one of these is a while, but I feel truly remiss in not bestowing this honor on an album as magnificent as this. So, joining the ranks of Destroyer, Nothing's Shocking, It'll End in Tears, Group Sex, The Fat of the Land, The Kings of the Wild Frontier, and Mothership Connection, I give you....Q:Are We Not Men? A:We Are Devo

Inspired by recently picking up their dizzyingly exhaustive new bio of the same name by Jade Dellinger and David Giffels, I was recently struck by how very few albums make me a unabashedly happy as this positively seminal classic. I do remember seeing them on "Saturday Night Live" and thinking they were just another surreal sketch until a few weeks later I wrapped my ears around this record. They seemed a thousand times more subversive than conventionally 'dangerous' bands like the Ramones and the Sex Pistols and Kiss. There was truly NOTHING like them (before or since).

But beyond their singularly bizarre and unique aesthetic, there were actually hugely satisfying tunes on this debut album. Even if you were put off by the yellow suits and the whole schtick, "Uncontrollable Urge", "Praying Hands", "Gut Feeling" and of course "Mongoloid" and "Jocko Homo" (to say nothing of their notorious cover of "Satisfaction") are just simply great, great songs. Eno's production is sharp and suitably alien sounding, retaining their raw edge, but filtering it through a patina of strangely sythetic sounding elements. And unlike some of their later records (wherein they truly succumbed to de-evolution, quality-wise) this album quite literally ROCKS!

As an extra bonus, I remember my older sister getting actively disquieted by their unflinching weirdness (most evident on "Shrivel Up" and "Too Much Paranoias"...to say nothing of the thoroughly inexplicable faux-Chichi Rodriguez-morphing cover art) and what's not to love about that when you're a perpetually disagreeable twelve year old? The fact that this album acted as a palpable irritant to my family (way more so than Kiss etc.) as well as thoroughly rocking made it a virutally priceless addition to my then fledgling record collection.

It's younger brother, Duty Now for the Future is also positively brilliant in the same wonderfully deranged manner, but after than, the band seemingly acquiesced to the demands of the music industry. The albums were still dazzlingly fresh and unfailingly interesting, but they seemed a bit de-fanged and housebroken after Freedom of Choice, the album that firmly tied the one-hit-wonder albatross that was "Whip It" around their collective neck. They would never again sound so alive and frantic as on Q:Are We Not Men?..

If you can't appreciate this album for the thing of unique brilliance that it is, truly someone has sucked the marrow of life out of your joyless bones. Discuss.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, October 7, 2003 9:40 AM (6 years ago)

I think "Space Junk" deserves its own thread. It's arguably the best song on the album which makes it arguably the best song ever. The main riff is seriously pretty: melodic and taut and simple. The one-note vocal melody is almost stupid, but you don't notice that, you notice how it meshes with the rest of the song, completely unobtrusive but an essential part of the whole, like a grain of sand on an Ohio lake beach. Then the middle part kicks in, the weird part, the part that makes you completely confounded, coalescing with the pretty part, but separate and new. Tex-aaaasssss, Kan-saaasss. Then the Americana guitar, the early rock n roll roots, to remind us where we came from, and how in the world we got to be so odd, and how in the world, indeed, Are We Not Men?

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, October 7, 2003 3:18 PM (6 years ago)

Devo is a lock for top five, I'm calling it now.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, January 8, 2010 10:57 PM (Yesterday)

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:51 (ten years ago) link

xposts:

happy for x-ray spex! thx ilm. for more enthusiasm, see the poll currently in progress.

i was saying to a friend the other day that every time i go through an x-ray spex phase, i become at least briefly convinced that poly styrene was the punk genius.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

woot! My #6 :)

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:52 (ten years ago) link

So I'd uh like Devo, right

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:54 (ten years ago) link

Hell yes!

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

i've always wondered if that's supposed to be a golf ball on the cover

bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

How have you never heard Devo?

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

ciderpress I always thought it was a golf ball

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

I really really really hope Curtis beats Tusk and Fear Of Music, would be a shame if boring ilm canon takes the top 2 places in an alternate poll.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:55 (ten years ago) link

How have you never heard Devo?

He's Britishes.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:56 (ten years ago) link

The Britishes don't pay attention to Devo?

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:56 (ten years ago) link

I've never heard Robert Wyatt tbh

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

WAIT A SECOND

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

This top 10 is looking pretty great.

Curtis was my number one but I really think Tusk will come out on top, which would be a huge shame. Fear Of Music is great album but they had their moment in the 80's poll.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

HOLD THE PHONE, I JUST HAD A CRITICAL REALIZATION

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:57 (ten years ago) link

Devo's profile in the UK is close to zero as far as I can tell. "Whip It" was a minor hit I think but that's it.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

The alacrity of your response (7 seconds!!!) has convinced me

...I've seen that video with the clown face and the spinny cube! It's GREAT. No idea how I haven't heard any yet. I know they're a band beloved by C******s.

Pfunkboy otm; the entire top 11 has been awesomeness itself so far, but I don't think Talking Heads or Fleetwood Mac are for me really. This said I have a CD copy of Tusk with me right now and am in a good position to judge! It's not like I'm going anywhere.

EEPHUS OMG rectify this situation

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

oops big xp

cool to see Alice (even though i put UC higher on my ballot) and Rock Bottom. i'm one of five who put RB at #1 btw, that probably is the last of my influence on this poll.

LJ, Third is also great but not in many ways the same thing as Rock Bottom.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

LJ is still the only britisher who hasnt heard devo

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

Comparing my #1 vote with what someone else said upthread, I know what one of top 3 is, and it will BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF

SO EXCITED

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

My boring top 10 pick that I thought would obviously make it and seems now to have gotten the shaft: BOSTON

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

I really really really hope Curtis beats Tusk and Fear Of Music, would be a shame if boring ilm canon takes the top 2 places in an alternate poll.

Well, I voted for Curtis but not the other two, so that should do it, right?

President Keyes, Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

I like "Nothing Can Stop Us" better as a Robert Wyatt album, tho it came out in the 1980s & I think it is generally less loved.

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

WHAT A NIGHTMARE IT WOULD BE IF POPULAR MUCH-LOVED ABLUMS WERE TO WIN A POLL OF FAVOURITE ABLUMS

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:58 (ten years ago) link

LJ the talking heads album is great, i own it, Tusk is ok, but as i said much earlier it's not in the spirit of an alternate poll if they're in the top 5

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:59 (ten years ago) link

I know they're a band beloved by C******s.

whaaat?

girl moves (Abbott), Saturday, 9 January 2010 19:59 (ten years ago) link

feel like the nba draft lottery up in here

uncle spam w4nts u (m bison), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:01 (ten years ago) link

Tusk is ok, but as i said much earlier it's not in the spirit of an alternate poll if they're in the top 5

Is Tusk actually canonical? I've never seen it on a Rolling Stone list or anything.

President Keyes, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:01 (ten years ago) link

LJ i think you would like fear of music btw

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:01 (ten years ago) link

This last run's been fantastic. This really is shaping up into something like an alternative canon. Well done! Thanks to everyone who voted whole hog for the over-the-top, so eccentric it might as well be crazy, sui generis works of genius. I LIKE.

dad a, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:02 (ten years ago) link

I know Third is nothing like RB! It's way less intimate, way less ornate or 'perfect' but it's wilder, weirder and for me at least more mindblowing. Plus, Moon In June is as exquisite an evocation of the uncertainty of youth that I've heard. And the instrumental blow-out is to die for. However, no problems with RB ranking higher. It's certainly more of a sophisticated construct.

Have *never* got Talking Heads. May have to try.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:02 (ten years ago) link

Devo's profile in the UK is close to zero as far as I can tell.

Naaaaah. That's not true. They're probably not considered as pop over here as in the US, but they're incredibly well-known.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Seriously, everyone start videotaping themselves, making sure your socks and the space 15 in front of them is in the frame, because lots of socks are about to be blown off.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

I want to join in the butthurtedness. No Randy Newman on the first poll. And none here? BUTTHURT I TELL YOU

Euler, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:03 (ten years ago) link

But doesn't the fact that Fear of Music and Tusk didn't crack the original top 100 already make for a kind of non-canon gestalt?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

Abbott, you know who! (Clue: I rather like them) Timmy S has always been a big Devo fan. Also, take a random straw poll of 22 year-olds here and see how many of THEM have heard Devo ffs

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

They're probably not considered as pop over here as in the US, but they're incredibly well-known.

I have literally never met anybody who has so much as mentioned them in passing.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:04 (ten years ago) link

I'm starting to get terrified that my full ordered ballot never reach Johnny Fever (for some reason 2 of the votes kept disappearing off of it, no matter how many times I sent it) and that my #1 won't get the full 40 points.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I've just finished an MA course where most people on it were around 22, and I bet a large proportion of them have heard Devo. I can think of at least 5 of them who definitely had. So ner.

ALSO, they were the big draw at ATP not so long ago.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:06 (ten years ago) link

tbf the only lol indies I talk to nowadays are like 16 year old screamos.

Chelsea Rabbit Rapist (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:07 (ten years ago) link

I've heard Devo! Just never a full album! I've liked what I've heard.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:08 (ten years ago) link

also plz hook me up with these ppl (I know for a fact that emil.y's MA course was with one of the great modern British poets, stands to reason that he's got a few acolytes in there)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:09 (ten years ago) link

Cosign the lack of Boston lamenting. Was in my top 5.

moron oil (Gukbe), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Haha, yes, a good couple of these Devo-aware 22 year olds are KS poetry types too. You should hang out in Brighton more.

xpost

emil.y, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:10 (ten years ago) link

*cough* can we have the top 3 now please?

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:11 (ten years ago) link

I voted for Boston also, in the 20s though.

Euler, Saturday, 9 January 2010 20:11 (ten years ago) link

I *really* should. If there's a particularly good poetry reading, lemme know! Anyway, yeah, what's 3...