ha, I was totally expecting not to get the comparison, as the Liturgy I have heard has been thumbs-down from me -- but I can kind of see what you're saying, as Cardiacs are very fond of brassy fanfare-esque melodies (or fake brass anyway, which I'm also guessing is what Liturgy are using here). Beyond that, not so much.
What makes Cardiacs to me are a) Tim Smith's sense of harmony, and b) their lyrics. You could take away all the drums and backing vocals and mallets and horns, and just have a piano or guitar, and Tim Smith singing, and it wouldn't sound like anyone else but Cardiacs.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
yep
but that doesn't mean that they don't fill the audio space with glorious, glorious noise :)
stripped-down cardiacs is sea nymphs anyway, which takes us full-circle to the NEW SEA NYMPHS. and the NEW NSRO. oh god
― imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
https://7shades.bandcamp.com/album/bursting
Overtly stated Cardiacs adoration from these. They're following this release up with a fundraising remix album for Tim, featuring David Minnick.
― tangenttangent, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link
This is great fun! :D Very overt worship, but that's no bad thing. They seem to add their own spin to it.
Spratleys Japs have COME TO LIFE and are doing a gig in Brighton in November, btw :)
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link
(although 'their own spin' contains something of the aggressive-wacky male progmetal stench that cardiacs themselves completely avoid at all times - we'll ignore this for now as they have decent tunes)
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, true excellence is required for any Cardiacsy graduate to get their own thread...like this: North Sea Radio Orchestra - NSRO - chamber kraut folk - see also Shrubbies
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link
fyi on the last Steve Davis/Kavus Torabi show, they played one of the new Sea Nymphs songs. It was good. Don't have the link, but it's on mixcloud.
― Dominique, Friday, 9 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
Heard it now. It's amazing
― imago, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
So I saw on Facebook that Tim travelled up to London to see the Dutch band De Staat playing recently so I checked them out and well, yeah...hello.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ttGgIQpAUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXEgY7Xieus
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
much as I applaud the attempt to make a live-action Cyriak video, I'm not sold on the music, either as Cardiacsy or otherwise, but I won't close my mind to 'em just yet
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
actually wtf am I talking about, they're repulsively loathsome, they have the most hateful stage presence I've ever seen in a live video, let's pretend this bump didn't happen. and tim, whatever refloats yr boat man but if you can stomach this you can stomach finishing lsd :p
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
imma just stop posting on this thread that's named after me lol
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
we agree usually! aw man it is nothing personal
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
this thread is for stuff we both like though, you also have power of veto ;)
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
You go in hard LJ, have a care :)
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
sea nymphs will wash away all this discord next week anyway
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, which reminds me, I must puchase
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
Joanna Wang has a new song and I think a new album on November 11 (or it might be an EP, I'm not sure):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew99FiYS9Q0
― MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
It's very, very exciting :D
She's only gone and gotten more Cardiacsy
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link
Of course she also released an EP earlier in the year that was very pop:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v8GAfhUoME
So you can never quite tell what she's gonna do next.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I wasn't sold on that last EP - file under 'odd experiment' - but the new song is amazing
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link
I get the impression she has to put out things like that EP occasionally to keep Sony happy so they'll let her keep doing her own stuff.
― Pheeel, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link
I find it absolutely incredible that she's still on Sony, and able to release such music under their banner
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
It's a full Cardiacsy rock-opera! Not sure it's quite better than the amazing Bob Music, but wow, what a joyride :)
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 12:04 (seven years ago) link
hah, it just popped up in my RYM feed, deal me in
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
That is because I added it to RYM lol
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link
my man
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link
just got your friend request...browsing the 5 stars and seeing so many records that I've only heard you talk about :)
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
I've definitely tried to listen to your five-starred records before. A lot of the YMO-affiliated ones are quite hard to find, but I'll definitely give it another go. My list definitely skews British. Hope you can forgive my 0.5-star album :p
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, some highlights are emerging from this - aside from Isn't It Exciting, we have The Rightful Heir and When I Dream In Technicolor. And probably some others - it's hard to wrap my head around it all so far!
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
Liar and the chicken calls are legit hilarious too
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Sound of Silver 0.5 wow! What did that record ever do to you???
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
It's a bit of an ILX in-joke tbh
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
I never worked out that frogbs=JAMOOL ffs
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
The Art Of Bullying probably has the album's best Cardiacs impression (ending in its best Queen impression, lol)
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
In fact,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQl3TZUmzYM
I've made her her own thread now too
― imago, Friday, 25 November 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
https://zofff.bandcamp.com/album/zofff-1
Zofff - longform psychedelic jam not really in the spirit of Cardiacs, but many familiar faces here including Jo Spratley and Bic Hayes.
― dance band (tangenttangent), Sunday, 22 January 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link
Popped up as a BandCamp advertorial today but their content is often kinda interesting, to me it's strongly reminiscent of Monsoon Bassoon or Thingy/Heavy Veg.
https://palmnewyork.bandcamp.com/album/shadow-expert
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
*caveat* this track at least
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
oh I like this! good find :)
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
it fits nicely with my 2017 year of discovering cheer-accident vibe
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
how has early oingo boingo not been mentioned in this thread? can't think of anything more "cardiacsy"
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
Idk, they had zero impact in the UK at the time though.
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
Scouring their first record on Youtube right now and it sounds like herky jerky new wave, Devo/XTC/Split Enz or Bill Nelson's Red Noise.
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GrBkJIuKSkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6NmzOcWjw
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
there are superficial similarities, especially in instrumentation and tempo, but tim smith's composition is way more mindboggling than this, the key is so fluid, and that's a large part of what i understand by 'cardiacsy'
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
this isn't bad though! btw neil cicierega is a good example of someone who's equally influenced by oingo boingo and cardiacs :)
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
That Palm EP's very good. Definite shades of 90s Rob Crow bands with some of Battles' 1st album in there too.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
Derial:
Ultros, if you *are* working your way through all the Japan shows? I take my hat off to you sir!
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
oh yeah glad to hear that palm ep getting some ilx love, they've been getting some well-deserved buzz lately.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Thursday, 17 August 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link