Unknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like

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OK I finally listened to Lemon Demon, some of it I kind of enjoy and some of it I profoundly hate, but have a weird urge to keep listening to it. Fuck. Must say I can't hear any Cardiacs in it at all, Devo and Sparks comparisons are about right.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link

New-ish track from the new Bob Drake album, if the whole record is in the same ballpark, I'm so on board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX-xhFlSl4

MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

OK I finally listened to Lemon Demon, some of it I kind of enjoy and some of it I profoundly hate, but have a weird urge to keep listening to it. Fuck. Must say I can't hear any Cardiacs in it at all, Devo and Sparks comparisons are about right.

I checked out Spirit Phone and these are almost my thoughts exactly, except I feel a lot more positive about it. There are a handful of songs I find annoying (towards the end of the album, not including bonus tracks), but I like all the rest, and there are a few I absolutely love. And yeah, I don't get the Cardiacs comparisons, but I hear so much other awesome stuff here -- Sparks, Devo, TMBG, Telex, Buggles, Chris Butler, Todd Rundgren, Magnetic Fields...

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

An article of interest:

http://thequietus.com/articles/20188-kavus-torabi-cardiacs-knifeworld-interview

looking forward to new Bob Drake too

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

The most encouraging update on Tim and LSD yet! :)

two weeks pass...

Born out of Eden has been in heavy rotation over here - "A Dream About a Dream" is such a great epic, under 6 minutes that is

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

yeah that was the standout track for me too!

I think I mentioned Big Evil, a Canadian instrumental band upthread a year or two ago. They have an album coming shortly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navOi2Wzg18

everything, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.mixcloud.com/interestingalternative/

dunno if this is the right thread for this, but the Interesting Alternative Show with Kavus Torabi, Steve Davis, and sometimes Ben Jacobs (aka Max Tundra) is always a great listen, can't listen to it without a big list of artists to check out. track selection is all over the map (as you might expect) but I guarantee you'll hear something you like in there.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link

^^^yes this is a great heads-up, they have a formidable collective taste

I came here however to post this

https://thedisplayteam.bandcamp.com/track/epitaph

...surely one of the greatest cardiacs/heavy prog mashup efforts in the history of man

imago, Monday, 4 July 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

late '70s scottish prog band chou pahrot. how did i not hear about these folks until now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOYv8udVrk

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

this is sweet, loads of opposition for yer rock

imago, Friday, 8 July 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

doesn't have the cardiacsy melodic gamechangers but it gets the 'spirited henry cow fans' thing down to a tee

imago, Friday, 8 July 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

doesn't have the cardiacsy melodic gamechangers but it gets the 'spirited henry cow fans' thing down to a tee

― imago

speaking of "spirited henry cow fans", have you heard radar favourites? mid '70s band with the underrated g.f. fitzgerald and charles hayward.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 9 July 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

not yet! charles hayward always worth hearing in any guise tho

imago, Saturday, 9 July 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trj2ZLebWnM

Cloud Becomes Your Hand. Saw them acknowledge on their Facebook page that being played after Cardiacs on BBC radio was 'appropriate'. This doesn't quite have it but I still really like it.

Maybe it's just the video, but In a weird way it puts me in mind of this track from Super Best Friends Club, which was a trail from their new record that hasn't arrived yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBJCcw3YlIc

MaresNest, Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:14 (seven years ago) link

otm with the visual poetry! I'm sure some of the band members are even interchangeable. It's a good song too. Will look out for the album.

For some reason the video is truncated, omitting a lovely sung section and coda, it's on Spotify though.

MaresNest, Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Yeah I was pretty stunned by Chou Pahrot on one of the Glasgow threads.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=771mc4eFiaQ

aaaaaahhhhhhh

i might give them their own thread tbh, this is too much

imago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Every time I see this thread I imagine it's all about Liturgy, who are supposed to be black metal but still sound more like the Cardiacs than anyone else I can think of, but ctrl-f = no Liturgy, so here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN4BncLvXic

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

haha I LOVE The Ark Work but would never ever have thought to put it here!

That track is awesome but Follow II is some properly gamechanging shit. Have you heard his album of weird trap-electro from this year (under the pen-name Kel Valhaal?)

Anyway, new NSRO album in like 3 days. WE'RE ALL EXCITED RIGHT

imago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

NSRO lovely as ever.

I don't understand the comparison between Liturgy and Cardiacs if I'm honest. Sigh are the metal band that get compared to Cardiacs the most and I never really understood that either - because they have lots of keyboards?

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

ugh fucking Sigh, really?

imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

Why does Liturgy sound like Cardiacs? Dunno, just does, something about the rhythms and the way he sings, thinking about Big Ship era, but (obs) much more reduced to its component parts. Will check out the new LP, cheers!

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, not that I have any hard evidence at hand but really. I think I remember the comparison coming up in reviews of the only album of theirs I sort of like (Imaginary Sonicscape).

And fair enough Camaraderie, I just don't hear it myself.

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

I guess the listenable stuff on Imaginary Sonicscape sounds a bit like Mr Bungle if you simplified it 8x, and Mike Patton loves Cardiacs, so

imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

ha, I was totally expecting not to get the comparison, as the Liturgy I have heard has been thumbs-down from me -- but I can kind of see what you're saying, as Cardiacs are very fond of brassy fanfare-esque melodies (or fake brass anyway, which I'm also guessing is what Liturgy are using here). Beyond that, not so much.

What makes Cardiacs to me are a) Tim Smith's sense of harmony, and b) their lyrics. You could take away all the drums and backing vocals and mallets and horns, and just have a piano or guitar, and Tim Smith singing, and it wouldn't sound like anyone else but Cardiacs.

Dominique, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

yep

but that doesn't mean that they don't fill the audio space with glorious, glorious noise :)

stripped-down cardiacs is sea nymphs anyway, which takes us full-circle to the NEW SEA NYMPHS. and the NEW NSRO. oh god

imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

https://7shades.bandcamp.com/album/bursting

Overtly stated Cardiacs adoration from these. They're following this release up with a fundraising remix album for Tim, featuring David Minnick.

tangenttangent, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

This is great fun! :D Very overt worship, but that's no bad thing. They seem to add their own spin to it.

Spratleys Japs have COME TO LIFE and are doing a gig in Brighton in November, btw :)

imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

(although 'their own spin' contains something of the aggressive-wacky male progmetal stench that cardiacs themselves completely avoid at all times - we'll ignore this for now as they have decent tunes)

imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, true excellence is required for any Cardiacsy graduate to get their own thread...like this: North Sea Radio Orchestra - NSRO - chamber kraut folk - see also Shrubbies

imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link

fyi on the last Steve Davis/Kavus Torabi show, they played one of the new Sea Nymphs songs. It was good. Don't have the link, but it's on mixcloud.

Dominique, Friday, 9 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Heard it now. It's amazing

imago, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

So I saw on Facebook that Tim travelled up to London to see the Dutch band De Staat playing recently so I checked them out and well, yeah...hello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ttGgIQpAUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXEgY7Xieus

MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

much as I applaud the attempt to make a live-action Cyriak video, I'm not sold on the music, either as Cardiacsy or otherwise, but I won't close my mind to 'em just yet

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

actually wtf am I talking about, they're repulsively loathsome, they have the most hateful stage presence I've ever seen in a live video, let's pretend this bump didn't happen. and tim, whatever refloats yr boat man but if you can stomach this you can stomach finishing lsd :p

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

imma just stop posting on this thread that's named after me lol

MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

we agree usually! aw man it is nothing personal

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

this thread is for stuff we both like though, you also have power of veto ;)

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

You go in hard LJ, have a care :)

MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

sea nymphs will wash away all this discord next week anyway

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, which reminds me, I must puchase

MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Joanna Wang has a new song and I think a new album on November 11 (or it might be an EP, I'm not sure):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew99FiYS9Q0

MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

It's very, very exciting :D

She's only gone and gotten more Cardiacsy

imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link

Of course she also released an EP earlier in the year that was very pop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v8GAfhUoME

So you can never quite tell what she's gonna do next.

MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I wasn't sold on that last EP - file under 'odd experiment' - but the new song is amazing

imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

I get the impression she has to put out things like that EP occasionally to keep Sony happy so they'll let her keep doing her own stuff.

Pheeel, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link


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