RIP Rowland S Howard

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/2009/12/30/1261982332384.html

RIP mate. you were one of the best guitarists there ever were. you will be very much missed.

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:02 (ten years ago) link

well, shit.

nonightsweats, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:08 (ten years ago) link

Knew something was up when he cancelled his Homebake performance a few weeks ago. RIP.

Lord Byron Bay of Pigs (SeekAltRoute), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:08 (ten years ago) link

RIP. Awfully young. His work in the Birthday Party was some of the toughest-to-wrap-my-head-around guitar work imaginable when I first heard 'em age 15 or so. Big Sonic Youth fan I was, RSH blew my mind that much further into the gutter.

ian, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:09 (ten years ago) link

Saw him in the Birthday Party. This is terrible news. RIP.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:12 (ten years ago) link

r.i.p. (but boy could they have picked a more sickly looking photo for that obit?)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:13 (ten years ago) link

sadly that's probably the least sickly looking of his recent press shots..

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:15 (ten years ago) link

Jeez this year is going out bad when it comes to musicians. RIP, gonna crank some B.P. here shortly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:20 (ten years ago) link

Oh shit. RIP Rowland. Saw him open for the Beasts of Bourbon many moons ago. Poor guy.

VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:27 (ten years ago) link

RIP

one of the greats

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:46 (ten years ago) link

Slam up the YouTubes as you can find 'em:

"Fear of Guns"/"Hamlet (Pow Pow Pow)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FF7deokIIU

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:46 (ten years ago) link

"Deep in the Woods"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJvRk9LZI2Y

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:47 (ten years ago) link

"She's Hit"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RI-07nm8o

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:47 (ten years ago) link

"Release the Bats"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWn0qcRYFA

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:47 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toFF3OvBR94

Zachary Taylor, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:54 (ten years ago) link

His album from this year Pop Crimes was really an overlooked marvel, btw.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:55 (ten years ago) link

didn't even know this existed until tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eeg-JqSO5c&feature=related

Zachary Taylor, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:05 (ten years ago) link

this is a special one, never committed to record as far as i'm aware..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ZUjePAXbk

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:08 (ten years ago) link

slightly odd montage of press shots

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:10 (ten years ago) link

(perhaps better with the sound down on this occasion)

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:11 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wJ2t0kyRTA

estela, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:14 (ten years ago) link

RIP

estela, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:15 (ten years ago) link

Never saw him live, but I really couldn't hold any guitar player in higher regard. :(

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:26 (ten years ago) link

didn't even know this existed until tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/v/8Eeg-JqSO5c&feature=related&fs=1&hl=en

yeah this is the lost aussie group to end them all - rowly, ollie olsen and jeffrey wegener from the laughing clowns! (+ someone else iirc)

very sad, just an amazing, invenive guitarist.

jon goin hamm (haitch), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:47 (ten years ago) link

xxxp - I never knew that cover existed!

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 07:52 (ten years ago) link

Woah, RIP

the Dean Windass of rock critics (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 08:31 (ten years ago) link

damn. One of my teenage heroes. Always thought him and Nick Cave would eventually work again on something. Guess not. RIP

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 09:02 (ten years ago) link

RIP, saw him, Nick Cave and Mick Harvey play a few songs as a Birthday Party sort-of reformation around 1992 or so...blew away the tedious Cave gig that preceded it, what a guitarist.

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:09 (ten years ago) link

RIP, you total fucking genius.

Never in, Kuyt (aldo), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:20 (ten years ago) link

Awful news. one of my very few genuine heroes. rip.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:22 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ChSy6FhxQ

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:26 (ten years ago) link

2009 can go fuck itself

RIP Rowland

Who was that Christmas-jumpered man? (onimo), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:54 (ten years ago) link

RIP. What a sound.

Soukesian, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:37 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I

Soukesian, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:38 (ten years ago) link

Fuck. RIP.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:50 (ten years ago) link

RIP

Christmas With Mark Hollis (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:54 (ten years ago) link

Geez, this is really SAD. I can't take all of these losses.

US EEL (u s steel), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 12:33 (ten years ago) link

rip, such a great guitarist

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 12:35 (ten years ago) link

Such sad news. Junkyard & the Bad Seed & the Mutiny! EP & even Prayers on Fire - these records kind of changed my life when I was in high school.

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:12 (ten years ago) link

The last SST record I really loved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyfUFMrIKnE

bendy, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:22 (ten years ago) link

whenever i was in crappy bands, i'd always dream they'd sound as terrifying as the live versions of "hamlet (pow pow pow)" that i managed to hear, and roland s. was such a huge part of that. so gutted two members of that band are now groovin' in heaven (hopefully).

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:24 (ten years ago) link

RIP Rowland.

dad a, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:34 (ten years ago) link

"Catholic Skin": the man could do things with treble. That song starts out like it's reverberating from a cathedral crypt, and ends with the sound of Satan loosing a fiddle contest. One of the first guitarists to say things with tone alone, notes nearly arbitrary.

bendy, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:43 (ten years ago) link

RIP. What a phenomenal guitar player.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:47 (ten years ago) link

well FUCK

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:39 (ten years ago) link

Nick otm

Nick Cave said: "This is very sad news. Rowland was Australia's most unique, gifted and uncompromising guitarist. He was also a good friend. He will be missed by many."

Who was that Christmas-jumpered man? (onimo), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:45 (ten years ago) link

rip

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:55 (ten years ago) link

Sharp fella:

Howard's slashing, reverb-drenched guitar style with The Birthday Party and Boys Next Door, and then offshoot outfits including Crime and the City Solution and These Immortal Souls, influenced by jazz, blues and avant-garde music, inspired new generations of Melbourne guitarists.

But the gaunt and stick-thin musician recently told The Age that he would prefer it if young bands were inspired by his attitude, not his sound.

''Usually when people say to me that a new band sounds just like me, I feel that they have missed the point entirely,'' he said.

''It's not just about being noisy and aggressive, it's a whole aesthetic, trying to meld genres into something new. So doing something that is based on that 30 years later is fairly redundant.

''They [young bands] should be looking for something that is of their own.''

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:58 (ten years ago) link

I was hoping to see him one more time in HTRK. Their album just missed my top 100 this year - HTRK - Marry Me Tonight (Blast First Petite). Check it out in his honor!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:41 (ten years ago) link

Ok, someone suggest a best-of post-Birthday Party tracklist for dear Rowland. I'm not familiar with enough of it to make a suggestion.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:02 (ten years ago) link

honeymoon in red - done dun
honeymoon in red - dead in the head
honeymoon in red - come fall
fad gadget - ad nauseum
lydia lunch and rowland s howard - i fell in love with a ghost
lydia lunch and rowland s howard - some velvet morning
lydia lunch - still burning
crime and the city solution - the kentucky click
crime and the city solution - adventure
these immortal souls - marry me (lie!, lie!)
these immortal souls - hide
rowland s howard - white wedding
rowland s howard - pop crimes
htrk - disco

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:51 (ten years ago) link

Anyone know why the wedding imagery shows up so much in his writing?

bendy, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:18 (ten years ago) link

This is such a terrible shame. I loved this man. Birthday Party was one of my first 'gateway drug' type bands & it was Rowland's stuff I sought out obsessively – Crime & the City Solution, his album w/Lydia Lunch – before I ever got into Nick Cave's stuff. Rowland was also just the most insanely gorgeous man in the world circa TBP. He will be missed.

I X Love (Abbott), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:22 (ten years ago) link

I need to hear some RSH-era Crime & the City Solution. I only know the stuff from the line-up after that (i.e. Bronwyn Adams, Mick Harvey et al)(which is all totally gorgeous btw).

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:03 (ten years ago) link

"room of lights" is on spotify if you have access to that.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Thanks! Am checking it right now (why does a picture of Buddy Holly come up when you look up C&TCS?)

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:17 (ten years ago) link

there was something about RSH that just talking about his unique tone doesn't cover. I never really worked out how to describe it, but he seemed to have access to something the rest of us don't.

The sudden lurch into that sprawling alien riff in the middle of 'Deep in the woods' can actually warp reality... it was even more so live, the earth did indeed move, or at least the floor would tilt in a crazy chaotic fashion because of what was coming out of his guitar.

Sandy Blair, Thursday, 31 December 2009 04:56 (ten years ago) link

Nice live recording from last year here: http://proskynesis.blogspot.com/2009/12/rip-rsh.html

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 31 December 2009 05:21 (ten years ago) link

" . . the floor would tilt in a crazy chaotic fashion because of what was coming out of his guitar." OTFM - Best description I've read!

Soukesian, Thursday, 31 December 2009 13:13 (ten years ago) link

yup, great description sandy. i've quoted it in something i wrote about rowland's passing. i have had "honeymoon in red" and "room of lights" on rotation all day. might try to squeeze in watching "wings of desire" again before i go out.

stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:26 (ten years ago) link

Why are so many people I care about dying this year! Between him and Asheton my two biggest guitar heroes have died and just fuckkk

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:01 (ten years ago) link

RIP dude :(

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:01 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeu0R73PJbQ

That pseudo-major-key-whatever-it-is guitar part that comes out of nowhere is so cool

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:13 (ten years ago) link

This may just be the video to close thread with...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si85s8dvKWI

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 1 January 2010 23:42 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Trailer for a documentary now up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cpspS8i3mI

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:11 (ten years ago) link

(And Nick Cave's look is essentially Gene Simmons with a mustache at this point.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:14 (ten years ago) link

the hospital scenes are mad creepy

twice remembered / twice removed (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:32 (ten years ago) link

I've been digging into Howard's stuff -- mostly cause of this thread. Man, I totally took that guy for granted. It's hard to think of another artist who is as uncelebrated as he is innovative.

Curious to tap the mob brain: What are your all time fave tunes/performances?

Chonus, Friday, 12 February 2010 14:25 (ten years ago) link

I'm really digging the HTRK. Knew nothing about it 'til this thread.

bendy, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:51 (ten years ago) link

It's good shit, for sure. Druggy and dubby, for those who like such things

Chonus, Monday, 22 February 2010 01:46 (ten years ago) link

Whats the string music in that doco trailer? Its so melancholy.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Monday, 22 February 2010 02:48 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Shit, I put on Teenage Snuff Film today for the first time in ages, was googling Rowland and somehow totally missed that he had died! RIP a year too late

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:04 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

I will always cherish the memories of listening to the Birthday party for the first time at age 14 or so. It almost felt like I was hearing people break laws on a cosmic level. The Immortal Souls albums also have a special place in my heart; they pick up where the Doors left off and do it 1000 x better. Such a shame that he passed when he was still in great form; "Pop Crimes" is a blinder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ReL0oMZZP0

Franklin_The_Turtle, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:42 (nine years ago) link

rowland doc is due to be out august this year apaz

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Autoluminescent-Rowland-S-Howard/180950885269740

australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:43 (nine years ago) link

I went on a Lydia Lunch listening spree last week and ended up playing (and researching) a lot of the '82 sessions that became Honeymoon In Red and Some Velvet Morning, I never knew the complicated twists and turns of those sessions or that parts of HIR were even FROM back then, I remember it coming out new in 87. Also never knew the SVM 4AD 12" was from the same sessions. And damn there's some of the dude's finest work tucked away in these two obscure gems, controversy over remixing/rerecording aside.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Sounds interesting, got any links? I've just been listening to Honeymoon, I had no idea there were demos like that floating around

Franklin_The_Turtle, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:16 (nine years ago) link

oh sorry, I just meant the Honeymoon LP and the SVM 12", another master reel has apparently been lost forever.

sleeve, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:29 (nine years ago) link

more info from Discogs:

Recorded @ Game Studio in Berlin-Kreuzberg in Jun/Jul-82 and @ Cold Storage Studios in London Aug-82, except for track 2 recorded @ New York City,Brooklyn,BC studio in May-87.

Initial mix by Steve Montgomery in London in Aug-82. Personnel in 1982 (at various intervals, but never all together): Lydia Lunch, Genevieve McGuckin, Murray Mitchell [13.13], Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Rowland S. Howard and Tracy Pew.

Personnel in 1987: Lydia Lunch (voices)/ Thurston Moore (guitar/voices) and Clint Ruin (a.k.a. Jim G. Thirlwell) (loops/treatments).

Recordings with members of the Birthday Party, which were at the time deemed inferior to the "Some Velvet Morning" single recordings. This record was supposed to be released by People's Records (run by Michael Schäumer & Michael Voigt [Monogam Records]) in 1982, but the label went bankrupt and the tapes were lost for years. One of the master reels has been lost forever. The surviving tapes were remixed by Jim Thirlwell and some guitar overdubs were done by Thurston Moore @ the BC studios in Brooklyn,New York in May-87. Released in this form without the consent of Nick Cave and Mick Harvey (they are listed on the album with aliases) because of the remixing which didn't leave many of the originals intact. Only "Dead River" and "Done Dun" were left fairly untouched and are also available on Lydia Lunch's "The Crumb" 12" (UK Widowspeak -WSP 13)["Dead River"(2:19) on this release is shorter and with less overdubs].

sleeve, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:32 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Watched the Autoluminescent documentary last night. HFS at all the old footage!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 June 2014 19:43 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

A smallish envelope came in today's mail from a Mr H. Howard. Looking through the book I can tell you (a) the neck date of RSH's Jag is April 1969, (b) it's completely rewired, new cheap pots on the lead circuit but the originals on the rhythm circuit, and (c) RSH's Twin is a 1972 master volume (tail logo). It's a nice little book but expensive for what it is. I don't mind in the least, it's supporting Harry.
https://i.imgur.com/ZBoe3bw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jUN78iB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rymP95p.jpg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:22 (two weeks ago) link

Harry's Near Death Experience albums are late great additions/editions of the greater B Party legacy.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

How much is the book?

I saw the RSH show in London a few weeks back. It was quite something and Harry was on great form.

stirmonster, Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:11 (one week ago) link

$30 AUD plus $9 Aus / $15 ROW for shipping. At the current AUD exchange rate it's approx 2 pieces of pocket lint anywhere else in the world.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 March 2020 05:02 (one week ago) link

Thanks.

stirmonster, Thursday, 26 March 2020 05:26 (one week ago) link

thanks for this

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 March 2020 06:48 (one week ago) link

I saw a phto from the tribute concert which had JB Shilo, a guitarist playing what looked like a white fender jaguar. Was that the same actual guitar that Rowland had as his sole one?

It's in the review in Uncut. It mentions him playing Rowland 's original guitar parts but not that it's his guitar. So wondering if it was or just a lookalike.

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:19 (one week ago) link

The pic of Shilo on the Getty Images site shows a white Jag without a rose decal near the jack, so I’d say not.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:48 (one week ago) link

i had heard it was one of Roland's guitars, though not the one he was best known to play. JP Shilo totally nailed it at that concert though.

stirmonster, Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:55 (one week ago) link


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