Prefab Sprout: Classic Or Dud

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Momus' posterity butterfly-collector may not rate Paddy McAloon but what about the rest of you? The new Cole Porter or got more praise than he oughta?

Tom, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Although Wendy Smith's angelic voice was sometimes a bit too much for my liking, I'd still say classic. Steve McQueen! And how can you not resist singing along about jumping frogs?

Stevie Nixed, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well Vicky rated Paddy over me - SO i'D SAY CLASSIC - he busks better than Martin Stephenson

Geordie Racer, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've been toying with the idea of floating this out as a C-or-D myself ever since there was a thread a while back which mentioned a new album on its way. (Should be in the shops June 2006, then). I'm just totally puzzled about the appeal of Prefab. I can hear the 'craftsmanship', I can tell that he uses lots of wierd chords, and yes, the melodies are unusual and the wordplay is often clever. Yet it's all so MOR, so polite. I got the 2CD best of in a sale last year, and I still can't get past the surface polish. Back in 1985 everyone was clamouring about "When Love Breaks Down" being one of the greatest songs ever written, and the bloody thing was released about 5 times to try and get a hit. Yet I can't listen to it without my attention wandering after about 30 seconds.

Dr. C, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Forget the new Cole Porter - the question is, who's the new Lloyd Cole?

the pinefox, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i think he is brilliant. i can completely agree with the sentiment that all of the records save 'swoon' and 'protest songs' are mor/adult contemporary but that doesn't seem to bother me, i've no idea why. he is craftsman in my eyes and i think he never releases a song that isn't complete and wonderful. well maybe a few like say 'the fifth horseman' which is a bit crap. allegedly he writes and records hundreds of songs but i doubt that, the website is sticking by the may 22nd release date for the new record 'gunman and other stories'. the pearlfishers record is a nice primer.

keith, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Just got "The Gunman". I thought I was disappointed by Andromeda Heights. This is a new low. Firstly, I only get 10 tracks, of which 4 tracks have been previously released in one form or another. Secondly, some of the songs are just pure filler... Example: Farmyard Cat??? What kind of crap is that?! I'm a Farmyard Cat.. Meow??? AAARGGGH!!!! Thirdly, if I wanted a country album, I'd look up Travis Tritt... Someone help me here! Is it too much to ask for an album with COMPLETELY UNRELEASED MATERIAL??? Paddy I think has lost the will to be his best.

Lance Wright, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

From what I've heard they're ..nice. I like the song Bonnie

Mike Hanley, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
I look forward to when he ditches the muso session men and expensive producers and releases the solo accoustic album he's destined to do. I love his stuff but on the last two albums he seems to be trying to sabotage his work by making it sickly smooth and sweet, he should try scuffing his knees now and again.

Billy Dods, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I'm back into them again now so let's revive!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

'steve mcqueen' is a beautiful beautiful record. I'm kinda surprised dr C doesn't like 'em.

so what recs of theirs have you been listening to Tom?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I own everything up to "Andromeda.." but all on tape so I'd not listened for years. Isabel likes them too and we were thinking vaguely of playing something by them at the wedding, so I bought the 2CD best-of. The first CD I think is really patchy - they weren't particularly a 'singles band' and so a chronological arrangement of same definitely has its ups and downs. The second CD is pretty much terrific right up until the Andromeda material which I never liked, though - I loved them at their absolute softest, really limpid pretty hushed ballads like "When the Cows Come Home"; "Desire As"; "Doo-Wop In Harlem"; "Pearly Gates" (Protest Songs is my favourite album by them and is full of that stuff).

I'm a bit surprised you like them Julio!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic.

I've loved Prefab Sprout since I first heard Lions In My Own Garden on John Peel back in '82/'83.

I wonder if Dr. C was about / remembers seeing them at Reading Uni around '84 / '85 when they were on tour with another great Kitchenware band, Hurrah! and both bands apparently only had one bass & bass amp between them?

Last saw them (without Wendy, sadly) at Shepherds Bush Empire a couple of years ago and they were still magic.

Julio's impeccable taste doesn't surprise me in the slightest btw.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

no, this is definitely Julio music - especially Cruel I would say - and not Dr.C music.

At his best - "When The Angels", title song from Jordan... - McAloon's untouchable. He doesn't quite do it often enough for me tho'.

Jeff W, Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really loved 'Steve McQueen' and 'Cars & Girls' .. but I just haven't been able to get into anything else ... I really want to too - because Steve McQueen is 'simply amazing' (a phrase that will undoubtedly show up on the cliches we love to hate thread) - and maybe it's that high standard that's kept me from liking much else...

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I also taped steve mcqueen of the record library but I haven't heard this record in a long time. I should prob buy this, actually because I can't remember exactly why i liked this record so much (you see I taped Joy division's closer on the other side to save money on buying tapes and I don't think they go well together).

''I'm a bit surprised you like them Julio!''

songs don't need to have an obligatory free jazz bit in them tom.

well doesn't Dr C like Scritti politti? OK so they aren't exactly alike but both bands have an affinity for soul-type stuff so i thought he would enjoy it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

definitely one where I wish their was an option between classic and dud but I'll say classic. Compared to Elvis Costello's post-This Years' Model stuff it's gloriously hernia-free but like Aztec Camera's High Land, Hard Rain I kinda forget this stuff exists most of the the time. Fine when I hear it though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I thought they were pretty good back in the Langley Park days, but i played that album a year or two back and it was quite a painful affair.

Dud.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hey up! My ears are burning.

Stewart - yes, yes I saw PF at RUSU in 84 or 85. I wrote at some length about the great Hurrah! on a thread on ILX not long ago. Tim Hopkins and I (and doomie!) were waxing lyrical about them. We invited Hurrah! to a party at our house after the gig and they turned up with Prefab Sprout too!

For about 2 weeks after it came out I thought that side one of Steve McQueen was genius, but it soon passed. I dunno - I have the 2CD thing and it occasionally comes out if I feel the need to hear Lions in My Own Garden or Bonny or Don't Sing - but really I just don't *get* McAloon. The concepts aren't that really that interesting and everything is so *tasteful* that I just can't get interested.

So you're right Jeff, as usual! I don't much like them, but of course I love Scritti. I suppose the comparison is valid tho' I'm not much interested in Paddy OR Green's craftsmanship and intelligence - Scritti get my attention because they're just so damn funky.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"I wrote at some length about the great Hurrah! on a thread on ILX not long ago."

Hurrah! Started out so well - they were great live (did you see them at the After Dark too Dr. C?) the 3 or 4 singles they did for Kitchenware (which were later compiled as "Boxed") were excellent; then they signed to Arista and somehow sadly they just seemed to lose the plot.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Prefab Sprout are the musical equivalent of a Disney movie- nothing in the league of Alice In Wonderland, mind you, but better than Pocahontas. So yeah, tasteful, "nice", "clean". But with enough wide-eyed wonder to lure me in.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Stewart - yes, they were bloody unbelievable live. I saw them 4 or 5 times in Reading - St. Patricks Hall, another hall (St. Georges?)After Dark and RUSU twice (once with PF and once with Microdisney). I treasure 'Boxed' and the Rev-Ola comp.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 January 2003 09:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard it for ages but I used to think that if you could get past the dodgy production "Swoon" was their best album. This seems to be as eccentric a view now as it was then. The 3 or 4 best songs on "Steve McQueen" were better than "Swoon", and the production was obviously much more sophisticated. But the quality of the ideas was patchier and it was a less consistent album. By "Langley Park" the magic had all but gone, to return only very sporadically.

Their career seems in a minor way to echo Steely Dan's, a band they were close to stylistically - they started off rough-but-brilliant, hit their peak when they added some production smarts (although PS's peak lasted for about 4 songs while SDs lasted for several albums) and then petered out as an obsession with high-production gloss turned them bland.

ArfArf, Friday, 10 January 2003 11:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

heh, I meant "Swoon" when I said "Cruel" above (the latter's a song on the former).

Jeff W, Friday, 10 January 2003 11:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've always found Swoon pretty much impenetrable - it stopped me enjoying PS for a long time (I bought it first because it had the best title). All that oblique wordplay.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 January 2003 11:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't defend the lyrics, Tom. Generally lyrics are just not very important to me. I seem to remember some of the images added a nice weirdness to the proceedings and worked sonically, but I'd never have been interested in thinking "what exactly does that mean?"

(This reminds of a comment Elton John made in an interview in the aftermath of Blur releasing "The Great Escape" (to great critical acclaim) and Oasis releasing "What's the Story" (critically rubbished). EJ said the critics were going to end up with egg on their face, partly because they were too obsessed by the lyrics, but also because they did not understand how lyrics worked. Oasis's lyrics might be rubbish in terms of meaning but they sounded ok so they did the job. EJ obviously isn't indifferent to lyrics or he wouldn't employ Bernie Taupin, and pay him a huge royalty share: he wasn't saying lyrics don't matter. He was saying they mattered in a different way than the critics thought.

This stuck in my mind because I agreed with his him both on how lyrics worked and on the relative merits of the two albums (not that I was a particularly fervent admirer of the Oasis album, but it did have some very good tunes while the Blur album IMO was obviously rubbish. Even Blur's lyrics, sixth-form poetry shot through with a celebrity's contempt for the rest of us with our boring jobs and lives, were much more offensive than Gallacher's mere awkwardness.

EJ turned out to be "right" at least in the limited/provisional sense that WTSMG outsold TGE by a huge multiple and the critical consensus shifted hugely in its favour as well.

ArfArf, Friday, 10 January 2003 12:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Neil Tennant made a very similar point re. Blur/Oasis lyrics, and I think he and Elton were probably right. My interest in lyrics flickers on and off - if they don't attract my attention I won't judge them. With Swoon though it seemed to me that the lyrics were drawing attention to themselves quite a bit, leaving me little choice but to pay some kind of attention. And often they left me feeling rather irritated.

Actually thinking about it this happened with the backing vocals more than the lyrics - something like "When Bobby Fischer's plane touches the ground" is interrupted by that pert little "(plane, plane!)" in the backing, and for whatever reason it infuriates me every time, draws attention to the lyrical quirkiness. I hate that feeling when I'm listening to music and suddenly find myself thrown out of the record thinking "But why on earth is *that* there?". The "Doh-bee. Doh-bee." stuff at the start of 'I Couldn't Bear To Be Special' has the same effect.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 January 2003 13:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Again, I wouldn't want to defend these specific instances. I'd agree that some of the quirkiness/archness is irritating and obtrusive. But in terms of liking the album overall it obviously didn't bother me so much.

ArfArf, Friday, 10 January 2003 15:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Revive - if only because, after years of unrequited like from both parties, they suddenly seem to be the band my mid-thirties were waiting for. 'Nightingales' just came on iTunes and it's like Heidegger rewritten by Dietz and Schwartz.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Goodness!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I am also... touched at Dr C.'s precognitive typo throughout this thread... where he types PF instead of PS... repeatedly!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I also think there is an unmatchable b-sides collection to be compiled here - 'Girl I'm Here' and 'The End of the Affair' (unbelievably, a couple of b-sides from different editions of the ok 'Electric Guitars' single) alone are worth the price of admission.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I found them to be CLASSIC until "Langley Park" which is unbelievably DUD. My little brother looooves them, go figure once again

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I must listen to the 2CD best of thing tonight to see if I like them yet. I sort of want to like PS.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with Donna Brown's little brother!

And -- while I expect disagreement -- I think Dolby/Prefab (or Dolby/McAloon) was a genuinely great partnership. Yes, sometimes an otherwise lush production suffers from a synth patch too scrappy or anemic -- or conversely, a pad too thick and sludgy -- to serve its intended purpose. But Dolby had a knack for giving each track its own sonic vocabulary, and if you forgive the occasional lapse it's possible to get really caught up in the creativity of the arrangements of even the lesser songs -- the punch, rubbery percussive sounds in "Knock on Wood," the spacious acoustic and nicely timed delays on the backup singers in "I Remember That," the Gregorian chant/drone in "Michael," and so on.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"the punchY, rubber percussive sounds"

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone remember the song "Donna Summer" that came (only I think) with the double-single release of 'When Love Breaks Down"? God, that was wonderful. It also came with a different version of "Diana" that was on "Protest Songs" (my favourite Sprout LP I think)

LondonLee (LondonLee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, but I really liked that song "Spinning Belinda" that was on the Debut magazine/record combo and apparently no other Sprout record. Thanks, Paddy.

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I had forgotten all about Debut magazine. I had an issue that had Danse Society on it.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

there are some great songs on Jordan, the Comeback too and that album hasn't been mentioned so far ( i dont think) Mercy is maybe his greatest song. "I'm 49" from I trawl the Megahertz is very beautiful too.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 11 March 2004 02:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jordan is the best song. andromeda has been unfairly maligned in this subject too, it was a pretty classy comeback album. never heard the last one. i liked that andromeda was dedicated to a couple of carpenters. the judybats were like the american version of prefab sprout, they were classic as well.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 11 March 2004 02:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Judybats were TOTALLY classic

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 11 March 2004 02:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like a few tracks on Andromeda Heights but it was a disappointment overall. I'm glad I didn't give up on it too quickly or I would have missed out on the glorious title track at the end -- glorious despite the ill-conceived instrumental verse.

(Anomie & Bonhomie is another album where you might well bail out early on an artist whose best years are probably behind him, but you'd miss the best track if you did.)

And yes, "Im 49" is beautiful. Depressing as hell, but beautiful.

Never heard of the Judybats -- in what ways are they similar? Sound? Quality of songwriting? Or...

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 03:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. I was just playing the first side of 'Two Wheels Good'/'Steve McQueen' today.

As for Elton's praising Noel Gallagher's lyrics, didn't Christgau once cite "You know I can't think straight no more" as a key to Bernie Taupin's state of mind?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 11 March 2004 04:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think Andromeda Heights is fantastic! A much more "mature" sound than any of the other albums, but I wouldn't want to have to chose my favourite between that one, SWOON and Protest Songs.

The Gunman & Other Stories on the other hand was a disappointment.

I Trawl The Megahertz is.... interesting.... I'm not sure, haven't really made my mind up on that one yet. I've enjoyed it to the 2 or 3 times I've played it but I don't feel any great urge to keep going back to it like I did with Andromeda Heights.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Swoon, McQueen, Langley Park, Protest Songs and Jordan infused my teenage life so that McAloon could never in the future put a foot wrong. Of course he did, but I've ignored it in the main. Ok, I haven't- Andormeda Heights, some great songs aside, is swamped by saxophone and slush, and Gunman just doesn't sparkle. Megahertz has a good six songs' worth of filler, but 'I'm 49''s perfect and the opener is touching, stitched together or not. That said, it does sound a bit like my American friend rambling 'meaningfully' over her ex-boyfriend's crappy noodling, but I try to shut that out.

Buffalo Stan, Thursday, 11 March 2004 16:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know what Dolby and iTunes are.

re. lyrics, how about wanting to be the Fred Astaire of words?

I like PF.

the bluefox, Thursday, 11 March 2004 16:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dolby = Thomas Dolby, who produced and played on Steve McQueen

iTunes = an antique jukebox in a cafe in North London that only plays PS and PF records

(possibly one of these is wrong)

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Thomas Dolby also produced and performed on parts of Langley Park and all of Jordan

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You know what? I quite like the idea of McAloon - this hyperliterate exquisite loner - gradually moving toward what, some might call, slush. Oddly, it's a sign of adventure. He desparately wants to write the 'Long and Winding Road' of his generation, and I think there's something weirdly admirable about his attempt to stifle his peculiar singularity in search of a standard. In a funny way, he's Jimmy Webb in reverse.

I also love what I have heard of the Megahertz record. It's brave and magnificent.

Does anyone know the state of Paddy M's eyesight now? And whether he is likely to release any of his mad folly concept lps or is ever more determined to explore the lonely furrow connecting the BBC world service and Berlioz?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

wild horses is an amazing track.

mizzell, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:14 (one year ago) Permalink

There's pictures of Paddy hanging with Spike Lee in London last week. Apparently theyre working on something together!?

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:14 (one year ago) Permalink

voodoo up, rollmo down

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Great observation by that friend of yours, flap

doug watson, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:46 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Jordan vs Steve

calstars, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

jord but also never make me choose

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Jordan yeah.

piscesx, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Jordan is Paddy perfecting Steve, which is really close to perfect already.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I might go with Swoon over both of them.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 01:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I was just looking at PS lps on discogs and they're a lot more expensive than they were 15 years ago. Like, not break the bank expensive, but last time I bought Two Wheels Good (Steve McQueen) on vinyl, it was about $3. It is not that now.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 02:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Jordan. I think there are some wobbles in the first half (Machine Gun Ibiza), but it's completely immaculate Moondog onwards.

I forgot I started polling through the albums… I'll put up a SMcQ/2WG poll when I get five minutes.

woof, Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'll save you time...it's 'Bonny'...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'd think it would be Appetite.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

the acoustic Appetite on the reissue is like mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i love both but steve mcqueen is definitely their best

it's got a much nicer texture & jordan's just a little too sprawling

ufo, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'd think it would be Appetite.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, that's the one that I'd vote for!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Picking between Bonny, Appetite and Goodbye Lucille is something I've always struggled with. Such perfect songs.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

the run of tracks from Bonny to Goodbye Lucille #1 is their peak, it's incredible

ufo, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Umm...why not throw Faron Young into that list just for good measure?

First three songs of side 2 ain't too shabby either.

yugi ex, Friday, 25 November 2016 18:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Struggling to get into PS besides 'Wild Horses' and 'When Love Breaks Down.' have listened to TWG and Jordan all the way through several times but nothing has stuck. was talking with my friend that turned me onto PS the other day, he mentioned how vicious and bitter McAloon's lyrics are delivery are throughout his records, he said they make Steely Dan's cynicism look like a party. i'm not hearing it though...

flappy bird, Friday, 25 November 2016 18:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Umm...why not throw Faron Young into that list just for good measure?

First three songs of side 2 ain't too shabby either.

― yugi ex,

Horsin' Around is the only song on Steve McQueen that's less than brilliant.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 November 2016 18:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

jordan took me a while to understand. can't imagine loving "when love breaks down" and being unable to apply that to the rest of steve mcqueen tho

idk if i'd characterize prefab sprout as more cynical than steely dan, in "a life of surprises" dude wrote one of the best and most earnest advice songs i've ever heard. "cruel" is sorta dan-ish in that it undercuts its own perspective

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 25 November 2016 18:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

There's so many great lyrical moments on this album.

"Save your speeches, flowers are for funerals" vs. "You give me infra-red instead of sun" vs. "Wishing she could call him heartache but that's not a boys name"

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 25 November 2016 18:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

definitely gonna keep listening because i'm in love with those two songs, especially 'Wild Horses'... i mean my god, talk about ahead of its time... my girlfriend thinks it sounds like Blood Orange though, and yeah, i've so far had no success turning other people onto the music of PS...

flappy bird, Friday, 25 November 2016 18:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

absence makes the heart lose weight

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 25 November 2016 18:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

try "cars and girls"

a but (brimstead), Friday, 25 November 2016 18:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

word, i will!

xp ha i thought that lyric was "absence makes the heartless wager," which i'm not sure makes sense but the real lyric is better

flappy bird, Friday, 25 November 2016 18:56 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"A Life of Surprises" is seriously about the best advice song ever, makes Steely Dan look like whiny teenagers

albvivertine, Friday, 25 November 2016 19:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah, I love his penchant for advice - there isn't much like it in pop, I think, since at its best it seems actually wise - Life of Surprises is the high point but also love that scolding 'She is a person too / She has her own will' in Goodbye Lucille* - really the key thing to be telling moping lovelorn boys. In fact, all the way through to 'Girls, have some fun' at the end of Adolescence.

He's really profoundly uncynical I think. Even seeing through things, in anger or bitterness, he's very humane and very scrupulous about emotion.

*also 'what are you - 21? The world is a million'

woof, Monday, 28 November 2016 11:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

finally, a second poll:
Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen / Two Wheels Good poll

woof, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

All this Prefab talk made me queue up my compilation of b-sides. I think this is complete, not counting remixes. It's not all gold but there's lots of gems here:
Lions In My Own Garden (Exit Someone)
Radio Love
The Devil Has All The Best Tunes
Walk On
Spinning Belinda
Donna Summer
Diana (single version)
Silhouettes
Oh! The Swiss
Real Life (Just Around The Corner)
Wigs
The Guest Who Stayed Forever
Old Spoonface Is Back
Vendetta
Nero The Zero
Dandy Of The Danube
Tin Can Pot
Tornado
Bearpark (demo)
The Sound Of Crying (full version)
If You Don't Love Me
Just Because I Can
Where The Heart Is
Dragons
The End Of The Affair
Girl I'm Here
Never Trust A Spell
I'm A Troubled Man (demo)

I also include these unreleased cuts from a fan bootleg:
Constant Blue (demo)
Cherry Tree (demo)
The Glass Slipper (demo)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 16:42 (ten months ago) Permalink

Agreed on the gems, like "Donna Summer" and "Bearpark". We might own the same compilation, if "When the Angels (Instrumental)" is on yours, too. Wish there were more out there to collect. For better or worse, they're left to their original releases. The Collection included "LIMOG(ES)" as did one of the later singles, but that's pretty much it, I think.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Just gorgeous...what an absolute hero he is

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 3 March 2017 15:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

They got Santa for their new video?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

paddy has looked recently-descended-from-a-mountain for like... over a decade now?

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 3 March 2017 15:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

Has he ever "explained" his appearance recently? So hard to reconcile the voice on the early records with this Gandalf looking figure

calstars, Friday, 3 March 2017 16:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

How do you explain sth like that?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 March 2017 16:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

Think his 'look' is at least partly related to the terrible eyesight problems he's had over the last ten years or more.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 3 March 2017 16:30 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah "i trawl the megahertz" was like 2003 and he looked the same... who really cares though?

clouds, Friday, 3 March 2017 23:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah, wow, ask Paddy what gives--I'd love to hear that response

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 4 March 2017 00:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Paddy's looked like this for a long time now... I'm surprised that people are surprised about this now?

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 4 March 2017 00:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

people should explain themselves when they grow beards

a but (brimstead), Saturday, 4 March 2017 01:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

LOL Tom Scharpling used to do a segment where he adjudicated whether bearded callers had "earned their beard"

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 4 March 2017 02:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

don't know if this has already been posted, but

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/88/da/a9/88daa9e7f3be063d3b7f6b3bf333575b.jpg

soref, Saturday, 4 March 2017 11:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

lol

My guess is it's the public expression of a self perceived sea change of identity.

calstars, Saturday, 4 March 2017 12:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

Or a way to not be recognized in public by his fans who I'd guess to be somewhat obsessive

calstars, Saturday, 4 March 2017 13:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

Or a plea for attention but that doesn't seem to be his style.

calstars, Saturday, 4 March 2017 13:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

thanks, Soref--perfect

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

goddamn his voice sounds great in that new video

flappy bird, Monday, 6 March 2017 01:56 (eight months ago) Permalink


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