There's a Mackerras disc with the concerto and the frescoes both
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
martinu seems very performance sensitive, if the playing is heavy or sluggish he just dies.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
cto for double string orchestracan also vouch for the symphonies, they're all worthy but 6 is v unique
martinu had the same problem as stravinsky and milhaud in that they wrote music with such facility that a lot of it is quite ephemeral. in that respect they are similar to the classical-era composers in that there isn't so much focus on the "masterwork" as there is in simply making work.
― clouds, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
or the baroque even more so
i like to think of film score composers as the baroque super-prolific hired guns of the 20c and 21c but that's another convo
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfA61_noOQQ&feature=youtu.be
― Call the Cops, Monday, 11 August 2014 07:09 (nine years ago) link
I was just introduced to the music of this young local composer/cellist Raphael Weinroth-Browne. I especially like this project, which might fall slightly out of the purview of this thread: http://thevisit1.bandcamp.com/ They describe this duo as a synthesis of Middle Eastern and Persian music, contemporary chamber music, and metal.
From what I've heard, Weinroth-Browne's own 'solo' compositions, which definitely fall under the purview of this thread, are very good too in my opinion. They're on the 'accessible' side of contemporary art music, occasionally verging into film music territory, but there's something emotive and gripping about them. The writing and orchestration are strong and the rhythmic ideas can be quite complex and sophisticated, probably owing to his love of progressive extreme metal. I enjoy these pieces:
https://raphaelweinroth-browne.bandcamp.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQJ-fBc6Vo
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
I don't know whether newly composed music belongs here, but have you guys heard the new release of Become Ocean by John Luther Adams? It's seriously lovely. Alex Ross was overwhelmed last year: http://www.therestisnoise.com/2013/07/jlas-become-ocean.html
Important quote: Anyone who has secretly wished, during the swirling stasis that opens the Ring, that the music would go on like that forever will find much to love in Become Ocean. Yeah, that's pretty much me. It's on spotify, at least danish spotify.
― Frederik B, Monday, 6 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Newly composed music definitely belongs here. I'm a relative novice re JL Adams but I just got Inuksuit which on first listen was amazing.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
alex ross is a wasteman
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
After a big binge of Glenn Gould I am loving Angela Hewitt playing Bach. Feel like she solved the problem of how to get the clarity and precision Bach calls for without the coldness of Gould.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Unfortunately all Spotify has very little of her -- she is on the "Rough Guide to Bach" doing a few diff things and then there's a recording of her playing a couple Bach piano concertos.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
unfortunately her recording of faure's piano music is not on spotify either
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
There seem to be some videos of her on youtube. I think she's playing at Poisson Rouge soon with a vocalist, or maybe already did?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
thinking of faure's piano music reminded me of the piano duet "dolly" which is just wonderful -- which reminded me of milhaud's "scaramouche" which i'd never heard before now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0jAvY3MmU
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
("reminded" meaning reminded me of its existence)
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Hyperion is not on spotify, or emusic. They are on the iTunes Store though.
I like Hewitt in the Well Tempered Clavier. Hurting, if you come across sergey schepkin's bach recordings, he's great and another one who takes on board the Gould influence but comes from a more romantic place
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
Scaramouche is so much fun to play!
― Eric H., Sunday, 16 November 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I should get the Hewitt recordings of WTC (esp since she is an alumna of my current workplace!). Tbh, while Gould is great, I am sometimes frustrated by his performances of a couple of the fugues. I think it is mainly a tempo issue. Maybe my brain is too slow but I find the voices and thematic relationships much easier to follow (esp for teaching purposes) in slower performances. Only in a couple of cases.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 16 November 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
this is kind of absurd but also kind of charming: http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2014/11/amoeba-music/dip-your-toes-into-classical-music-with-our-handy-conversion-chart.html
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link
IF YOU LOVE: Laura NyroCHECK OUT: Toru Takemitsu, composer
makes me want to give laura nyro another shot tbh
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 09:59 (nine years ago) link
what is the best way in to bruckner? i keep trying with this guy and it basically just puts me to sleep every time, so if anyone has any suggestions regarding specific pieces or performances or elements to pay attention to or even just ideal listening conditions, then i'm all ears
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link
last one i tried was celibidache conducting symphony no. 3 fwiw
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:05 (nine years ago) link
i dont have an answer to your question my liege, but i did want to ask if anybody here had checked out the laurence crane release from a few months ago. almost unbearably... modern at times but i do feel it hits it out of the park in terms of pure beautiful irreverent tonality
http://www.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=Vf2BQtMQNgs
just my $0.02
― fuhgeddaboudit! (missingNO), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
i got into bruckner thru obsessive listening to the 8th and 7th syms. (gunther wand conducting); no special conditions, just headphones and no distractions.
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
I heard a bunch of bruckner choral music at a concert a few years back and got really into that stuff for a short while, then burned out on it. It's a little too hollywood angelic choir for me at times, but it has its surprises.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I was gonna say I only know Bruckner for his choral music but "Locus iste" and "Os justi meditabitur" are gorgeous
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah those are v pretty
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
^ i like to stagger those w/ some bach motets
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
my man
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
btw if anyone is interested in a Spotify playlist made up of many of my favorite pieces of choral music, check here:
http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/6bWnlWmCk45LxCffWeTSpR
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
Absolutely!
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
first Bruckner to click for me was the Fifth. But I would recommend the Ninth for starters. It's unfinished (three movements complete, finale unfinished and usually omitted) so the length is less intimidating, and it is super urgent and immediate, with the most face-stomping of his many face-stomping landler movements.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
bruckner is just amazing. it's a cliche about his music but listening to him as a composer-organist synthesizing bach's horizontal harmony with wagner's vertical harmony and architectonics his music begins to make sense (ime anyway)
― dogen, lord soto zen (clouds), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
It's a good cliche. Also to think of it being made of terraced slabs each slab being of a particular affect, like in baroque music.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
thanks for the recommendations. have got kurt mazur bringing the ruckus to symphony no 7 lined up for later. gonna see if headphones get me inside that wall of sound
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
that masur/bruckner joint was plain garbage btw and gone straight into the get-rid-of pile. sound quality was nonsense, just this interminable blaring stream of sound - sometimes quieter, sometimes louder - but impossible to follow any sort of logic as to why. found a rosbaud recording of the same piece and at least I could differentiate the instruments on that, though I'm still kind of perplexed by it tbh. and then yesterday i got old bertie von k belting out symphony no 4 and wow, a penny has dropped - this is something else entirely. fearsome fucking wall-shaking brass on that thing, and a good level of tension in some of the quieter interludes too, completely exhilarating stuff
― john wahey (NickB), Sunday, 23 November 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
IMO:
Sym 7 - steinbergSym 4 - Klemperer
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 23 November 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
I just finished my replays of Havergal Brian's Gothic symphony and it's precisely the sort of monster I was looking for in this thread.It's the Hyperion label, BBC proms Martyn Brabbins performance, over 800 people in the orchestra! It's a notoriously difficult symphony to pull off.Over 1 hour and 45 minutes of incredible visions, sometimes there's so much choral stuff going on its hard to take it all in. Monumental. At first I was disappointed it wasn't all that dark for most of the duration because there's so much heavenly brightness from the singers and even odd whimsical bits. But it's totally amazing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 12 November 2014
From my Epic Grandeur thread.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
Link to thred?
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 23 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Most EPIC GRANDEUR music of all time!
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
that sounds pretty crazy! only havergal brian i have are symphonies 6 & 16 which have both got some good doomy passages in them
― john wahey (NickB), Sunday, 23 November 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
I only discovered Brian and his Gothic symphony because I caught a bit of Curse Of The Gothic Symphony on Sky Arts. I'd like to see the whole thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfVg9vn4jCc
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
I don't know much about classical music but it's weird that this piece can be done with 600 or 800 people. I'm glad I got the bigger performance version.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
I'm also a bit sceptical that this is the biggest or most difficult symphony there is.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
guessing that mahlers 8th has been performed by the titular 1000 at some stage?
― john wahey (NickB), Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Currently digging Beethoven's early string quartets, specifically the six that make up Opus 18.
I know it's the late ones that are supposed to be the real hot potatoes, but they're as yet a bit too impenetrable for a novice like myself.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
all the beethoven SQs are brilliant. esp love the rasumovsky quartets and the "serioso" and "harp" (which seem of a pair to me)
― kobaïas fünke (clouds), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Early beethoven quartets and sonatas are amazing, no qualifiers.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Just watched Ken Russell's ABC Of British Music on youtube, it's all over the place but there were quite a few things that really impressed me. He lists loads of neglected and forgotten composers and he makes a long list of music critics he hates.
Of the neglected composers, Elizabeth Maconchy stuck out the most. I was pleased he liked Havergal Brian so much.
He gives a preview of Thomas Dolby playing music for Russell's Gothic, which sounded way better than I remembered.
A real standout was Nigel Kennedy performing part of his collaboration with David Heath. It has mixtures of electronic and rock. I looked for the track on youtube and David Heath has uploaded that whole album, but in a new mix that the record company wasn't interested in reissuing(he was unhappy with his original mix). Great stuff.
But the thing that really bowled me over was a clip of Cornelius Cardew. Wow! If only I can find that piece easily enough. I hope.
Here's a long but incomplete list of the things covered in the documentary.http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/1025804/synopsis.html
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Along with his freakout Liszt and Tchaikovsky movies, Russell made biopics of Debussy and Delius, both of whom are all time top 10 composers for me.
I haven't heard Dolby's Gothic score in decades. I remember being disappointed; I was a massive t dolb fan then.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 6 December 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link