M.I.A. - Kala poll

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
11. Paper Planes 18
1. Bamboo Banga 17
3. Boyz 13
7. 20 Dollar 5
2. Bird Flu 5
4. Jimmy 4
8. World Town 3
5. Hussel [feat. Afrikan Boy] 2
6. Mango Pickle Down River [feat. The Wilcannia Mob] 2
10. XR2 2
9. The Turn 0
12. Come Around [feat. Timbaland] 0


feisty, Spanish, girl (Moka), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Couldn't think of a poll pun this time, sorry.

Just in case you missed it: Poll up the People: M.I.A. - Arular poll

feisty, Spanish, girl (Moka), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Maybe "All I wanna do is poll poll poll poll poll poll poll and a and take your money?" Lame, huh?

BAMBOO BANGA!

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

"bamboo banga" vs "hussel"

the way the bass drops on "MIA coming back with power, power" vs that fucking immense slashing synth sound on "you think it's tough now? come to africa"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Hussel". I didn't get into it on the other thread but I return to this album a lot more than Arular or PFT; which actually makes it tougher to pick out a single since I usually just listen to this whole thing right through, whereas on the others I graze singles.

Euler, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bamboo Banga vs Boyz vs Paper Planes vs Hussel - I'll probably go with Paper Planes as it's the one I'm most likely to play if I'm not playing the full album.

Timbaland arriving with "Baby girl..." kills the end of this for me.

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

xr2

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

hat fucking immense slashing synth sound on "you think it's tough now? come to africa"

That specific moment is ace but undermined by Afrikan Boy's terrible verse after that. Actually MIA's "chocolate Hershey" verse is similarly bad.

I think the reason that Kala doesn't hold up quite as well as Arular for me is that I don't like her as much when the pace drops, Amazon aside. The thing she does best is MOMENTUM and there are too many midtempo tracks here.

Paper Planes will win this by a massive margin and doesn't need my vote so I'm going for Boyz and its immense bouncing wall of drums.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

boyz is so awesome

just sayin, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Boyz all the way.

Tim F, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

POWA POWA

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Boyzzzzzzzzzzz

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Although, to be fair, I love most of this album.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like the midtempo stuff, it's woozy and weird and is where the album really opens up sonically. accordingly: $20.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 13:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

The only tracks on here that were not at one point vying for position as my favorite song on the album are "Mango Pickle Down River" and "Jimmy" and I view both of those much more favorably these days.

still I'm doggin' on the bonnet of ya red HONDA

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

The whole first side is aces, guys.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

"$20 Dollar" is recommended to those who think she just writes slogans and agitprop.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^^ this is what I mean when I talk about Kala lyrics being next-level compared to Arular; she still has the woozy imagery thing going on but she actually expands upon and extends themes as opposed to repeating them three times (which can also be awesome a la "Galang", don't misunderstand me here)

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

also btw speaking of "$20" I'm sure this is old news but still hot and awesome: http://hypem.com/track/484986/A+plus+D+-++20+Monday+M+I+A+vs+New+Order+

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

as much as i love paper planes it's not really what the record is all about imo, just a brilliant pop tune thrown in at the end of an awesome MIA album. also i still hear it like every time i go out and at every party i go to.

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bamboo Banga with Boyz a close second.

I agree that the lyrics on Kala are stronger than Arular, but maybe songwise it's a bit weaker.

Moodles, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Boyz.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

why is she so off tune on $20 Dollar

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

She's always off tune!

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

True, it's just particularly grating to me on the "where is my mind" bits.

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still think that Paper Planes is probably a peak of her whole artistic/political vision, but its been overplayed to death and the whole "Swagga Like Us" phenomenon just killed it for me. So, Boyz. Plus the beat is just tremendous.

Stefanthenautilus, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, if loving Mango Pickle Down River is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Stefanthenautilus, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

too bad the bonus tracks aren't on here, some of them are massive ("Big Branch"!)

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

bird flu or boyz (they're pretty much the same song in my head anyway)

hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bird Flu because it's so infectious

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Mango Pickle Down River" vs. "Bamboo Banga," but "Bamboo Banga" wins for me

LAMBDA LAMBDA LANDA (Beatrix Kiddo), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Jimmy"

Although I have to admit part of my vote goes to the video, in which she looks AMAZING.

one boob is free with one (daavid), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

imo it goes through a right couple of lulls here in these 2 bits

5. Hussel [feat. Afrikan Boy]
6. Mango Pickle Down River [feat. The Wilcannia Mob]

8. World Town
9. The Turn

but Paper Planes, Bamboo Banga and 20 Dollar just about save it from disappointing 2nd album syndrome.

i was baffled by the reviews and opionions of it as being better than ARULAR then, and i'm completely baffled by them now.

Bamboo Banga i think overall.

piscesx, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, of those for songs I love 3 of them to death and recently came around on the last one.

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

"$20 Dollar" is recommended to those who think she just writes slogans and agitprop.

― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 1, 2009 6:24 AM Bookmark

Screw that. Give me all the agitprop sloganeering you want, just give me some beats and some color and keep this dreary mud away from me.

mooncup journey to vaja (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think World Town is catchy as hell! No way is that a lull. I never could get into 'Hussel,' though.

I think I'm gonna go with 'Bird Flu,' mostly for the massive drum fills and chicken sounds but I could just have easily voted for 'Boyz' or 'Bamboo Banger.' I love the Bollywood sample that's kinda hidden throughout that song and only really revealed at the end.

adamj, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hussel would be my second or third choice. Great chorus.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Screw that. Give me all the agitprop sloganeering you want, just give me some beats and some color and keep this dreary mud away from me

But she does that too -- and in the same song.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not by my estimation.

mooncup journey to vaja (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Boys.

Josh L, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

lookin fwd to 30 Dollar

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looking at this list of songs, I'm realizing that I only really like about half of these - but those I like a lot.

o. nate, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol that's how I feel about Arular

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

That looks about right, although it would've been awesome to see Bamboo Banga take it all.

Timbaland arriving with "Baby girl..." kills the end of this for me.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxetc.p Same, but I actually really like the beat AND especially Maya's verses. Has anyone made a mix of this that loops the chorus and re-appends the outro/fades the song out? Does anyone want to try?

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

do people feel this way about all tracks that Timbaland chimes in on? because i'm not seeing any relevant difference

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

No, I normally don't mind Timbaland's intrusions - it might be pre/post-2004 timbaland, but even on Loose and FutureSex/LoveSounds he was tolerable, or even enjoyable. This particular verse is just so AWFUL and so out of place. It doesn't mesh with Maya's style vocally or musically at all. Sore thumb, imo.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nah, she doesn't have enough mass appeal (yet). I think she's been more written about than adored.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

well he's not really saying she is the artist of the decade, just that she has consciously positioned herself as the kind of big-picture mantle-inheritor who gets talked about in those terms. (and that those terms are themselves sort of antiquated.) i think he's been wrong (jarringly sometimes) in a lot of what he's written about her, but this one is pretty close to right on a lot of things.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think laying out the case without passing explicit judgment on her worthiness helps him here.

Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Leafing through it at a bookstore on Thanksgiving weekend, I concluded that the Hilburn book is ghastly.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

the Hilburn book?

piscesx, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

No '30 Dollar' on the new album?!

piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

In retrospective Bird Flu should be higher.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:42 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

still her best imo

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 01:50 (five months ago) Permalink

yep

Kala
Matangi
Arular
MAYA
AIM

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 02:06 (five months ago) Permalink

Close. Kala and Arular are tied for first folled by the underappreciated MAYA. Matangi is not far behind that one and AIM is the worst yeah

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 04:17 (five months ago) Permalink

*followed

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 04:17 (five months ago) Permalink

I love this recording artist.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 04:19 (five months ago) Permalink

i was baffled by the reviews and opionions of it as being better than ARULAR then, and i'm completely baffled by them now.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:31 (five months ago) Permalink

I would put Arular in my top ten of all time and I don't think she's ever come remotely close since

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah Arular sounded so great at the time and, having heard it again for the first time quite recently, it still holds up. I didn't really listen to much past then

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:51 (five months ago) Permalink

did anyone see the guy from the wilcannia mob on the reggie yates doc? it's pretty heartbreaking

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:03 (five months ago) Permalink

Arular is the only one I got that into.

chap, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:14 (five months ago) Permalink

i love MIA imo she's the most interesting pop star of the 2000s

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:20 (five months ago) Permalink

i was baffled by the reviews and opionions of it as being better than ARULAR then, and i'm completely baffled by them now.

― boxedjoy, T

It's not better – it's a refinement. I love'em both.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:30 (five months ago) Permalink

Also, it's better.

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:21 (five months ago) Permalink

If MAYA didn't have that horribly draggy middle section, I would like it more.

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Adam, Alfred and DJP all otm. I also still listen to "Piracy Funds Terrorism" a lot.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:47 (five months ago) Permalink

I like MAYA too. I thought way too highly of Matangi at the time, though.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:48 (five months ago) Permalink

Matangi bangs

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:53 (five months ago) Permalink

I like Matangi but stopped playing it pretty quickly. I think it's a little monotonous, not as varied as the ones before.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:32 (five months ago) Permalink

i love MIA imo she's the most interesting pop star of the 2000s

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau)

Yeah I agree. For me at least speaking about female pop stars top of my mind these are my favorite each decade:

50's: Yma Sumac
60's: Brigitte Fontaine
70's: Stevie Nicks
80's: Kate Bush
90's: Bjork
00's: MIA
10's: Grimes

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:48 (five months ago) Permalink

I just realized that each one of those comes from a different country.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:50 (five months ago) Permalink

Ah wait MIA was born in the UK, scratch that. I thought she was born in Sri Lanka.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:51 (five months ago) Permalink

listening right now "Birdflu" is an insane beat. makes sense she sampled Suicide later. this is on that level of electronic minimal punk but with this hyperrad acoustic flavor.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:00 (five months ago) Permalink

god damn this album rules

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:02 (five months ago) Permalink

how many
how many

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:03 (five months ago) Permalink

.. and i still stand by that earlier bafflement.

piscesx, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:09 (five months ago) Permalink

I posted this on the other Kala thread. Bird Flu is still dope but the beat being a whole-cloth Bollywood sample takes a little something away from it, especially after those stories around the release about going to India and recording with drummers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcQyMmjMrP4

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:09 (five months ago) Permalink

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-m-i-a-made-kala-20130319

"For "Bird Flu," M.I.A. harnessed the power of South Indian percussion: "30 drummers in a room" playing an instrument called the urmi, a which is used in temple rituals. The result, M.I.A. recalled, was "a massive beat – the total opposite of the snap beat sound that was popular in the U.S. at that time. People kept telling me: That record is going to clear the dance floor.""

Maybe she did record with a bunch of drummers but it didn't sound as good as the sample...

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:12 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah i was gonna ask if she did that. you are probably right. i love the loops. this record is very instant classic.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:17 (five months ago) Permalink

XR2 is a banger

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:21 (five months ago) Permalink

The Turn is making me think of Bow Wow Wow

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:27 (five months ago) Permalink

this album is really very good

plax (ico), Thursday, 15 June 2017 22:23 (five months ago) Permalink


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