Sade - Soldier of Love

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Feb. 8th

No leaks yet as far as I can tell. Great cover.

i and iiiijjjj (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:17 (eleven years ago) link

xcited

ice cr?m hand job (deej), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

on board

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

cosign. can't wait.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

hell yes

adam, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Just now saw the cover. Veddy nice.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that is a great cover (mysterious, sexy, epic).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 30 November 2009 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

hell yes

oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Monday, 30 November 2009 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, looking forward to this.

Mark, Monday, 30 November 2009 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

wistful. mayan. sade.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

or i dunno, maybe they have those things in nigeria too.

anyway, looking forward muchly.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

Me too, I wonder if she'll embrace newer R&B production or do something like her previous albums. Not that she has ever been strictly R&B.

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 30 November 2009 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

OMG I AM BEYOND EXCITED.

And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Monday, 30 November 2009 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

this album is going to be like a surprise holiday in february

oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Monday, 30 November 2009 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

She doesn't look any older now than she did in 1992.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

she's one of those odd women who only gets more beautiful as they age

only mod can judge me (The Reverend), Monday, 7 December 2009 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

She's still stunning.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 December 2009 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

I figured she retired or moved to another phase of the music business. She hasn't had an album in almost a decade, I think.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 December 2009 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Lovers Rock came out in 2000.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

And of course it will sell millions. I love these guys' level of fame. With the depressed state of the industry, it wouldn't surprise me if it became their first number one album since 1986.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 December 2009 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Is it really still a "they?"

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Wikipedia says "yes!"

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

More from wiki: "'No Ordinary Love' appeared in the second episode of the second season of 30 Rock when Kenneth Parcell tried to seduce Tracy Jordan's wife, Angie Jordan."

I do not believe I remember this. Must rewatch.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

And of course it will sell millions.

I hope this is true, for Sade's sake, but I doubt it. Few records sell a million copies these days, right? I guess a digital single might. Also, I'm not sure about the strength-of-commitment of the band's fans (again, I hope the new record sells millions).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 December 2009 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Their commitment is immense. Check their US sales: modest but steady.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 December 2009 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

lovers rock went triple platinum in the u.s.

omar little, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

the live album that followed sold over 500k

omar little, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Lots of things went triple platinum ten years ago, though.

I think Soldier of Love probably will hit platinum, but it might take half a year or more.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to buy three million copies and give some away to friends

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Monday, 7 December 2009 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

the album cover kinda reminds me of this

http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/avalon_hi.jpg

omar little, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah me too

so excited about this. I was initially a bit disappointed when Lovers Rock came out but i turned out to be pretty good. I still think as recent lol

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 December 2009 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

wow - single comes out tomorrow?!

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 December 2009 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

Does an album going platinum only take into account U.S. sales? Because Sade has a global fanbase, right?

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

"do something like her previous albums"

Haha gee, ya think?

I for one cannot freaking wait for this to sound exactly like all of her other albums.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 December 2009 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

it leaked yall
http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/2009/12/07/sade-soldier-of-love/

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

HMMMMMMMMM

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:56 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of great

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:56 (eleven years ago) link

right? i like how weird it gets

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:56 (eleven years ago) link

yah lovin this

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

and i like how it just keeps going

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, not to get all sick mouthall, but it feels kind of compressed and spaceless. Her singing still sounds impeccable, though.

only mod can judge me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

im on laptop speakers so i cant tell

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'm on big headfones and the beat sounds kind of sick. on repeat

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

Already the best album of 2010.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

Kidding, but this thing is a stark contrast to the big, slow-to-change mountains of songs on Lovers Rock. This is all pulse and friction. This is all awesome.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

Now I'm really thrilled to hear this. Pulse and friction sounds good!

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:41 (eleven years ago) link

might be the first cd i've bought in 3 yrs

jaxon, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

deej the single didn't "leak", it got released!!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

Not really but I do know I find that song utterly heartbreaking.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:57 (ten years ago) link

safest place is the most heartbreaking song.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:10 (ten years ago) link

errr, I would say Babyfather strays from her comfort zone.

Anyway I agree with both arguments here - I do think Sade has evolved substantially since '92, becoming increasing warm and organic and maybe somehow singer-songrwiter-ish. Yet, Love Deluxe remains their most unique (and IMHO interesting) output.

saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah i mean 'love deluxe' is my favorite sade record (altho my favorite sade SONGS are on her other ones) these days

average dump from average gangsters (deej), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:30 (ten years ago) link

well thats not entirely true -- kiss of life is on lovedeluxe

average dump from average gangsters (deej), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:31 (ten years ago) link

on babyfather, does anyone else think it undermines the ambiguous coldness/cruelty of saying the child was a fling by having a guy on BVs saying 'daddy loves you child' etc. i liked it before i noticed all that. though im not sure who shes directing the apparent resentment of the fact its a fling at, its like shes explaining matter of factly to the child that she was the result of a fling, while kinda taking a hit at the dad for not sticking around. that the 'dad' seems to get a chance to speak later on i think undoes it a bit.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 1 March 2010 12:45 (ten years ago) link

well that and the fact that the chorus mentions that the daddy love comes w/ a lifetime guarantee

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 1 March 2010 13:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah i now magine the song being used on national babyfather day (if there was a babyfather day) adverts

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 1 March 2010 13:55 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

This is pretty boring on first listen.

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:19 PM (2 months ago)

The title song excepted, these songs have no momentum.

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:12 AM (2 months ago)

Hold up a second -- isn't this coming from the guy who repped for Maxwell as 2009's best album?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Anyway... just picked this up a couple days ago. Sounds great on first spin.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:14 (ten years ago) link

the Maxwell album was a lot better than this

you might be a goon but what's a goon to a viking? (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:01 (ten years ago) link

A lot better for zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:02 (ten years ago) link

youre both idiots

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:08 (ten years ago) link

fuck yourself

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:26 (ten years ago) link

;_;

the Sade record is good sorry bro

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:30 (ten years ago) link

soldeejr of love

is it really that hard to spot all these fake british dudes? (velko), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:30 (ten years ago) link

You people are up too late. Put on the Sade record and go to bed.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 11:23 (ten years ago) link

soldeejr of love

+1

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 6 May 2010 13:05 (ten years ago) link

posts v much in character

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 7 May 2010 02:35 (ten years ago) link

deej is determined to like this album no matter how many people he has to be snarky to

^if deej could have a board description

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 05:17 (ten years ago) link

haha

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:17 (ten years ago) link

im hardly known for 'liking' albums. soldier of love >>> love vs. money

U HEARD ME

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 7 May 2010 07:33 (ten years ago) link

j0hn are you still out there insisting sade didnt use breakbeats

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 7 May 2010 07:33 (ten years ago) link

on babyfather, does anyone else think it undermines the ambiguous coldness/cruelty of saying the child was a fling by having a guy on BVs saying 'daddy loves you child' etc. i liked it before i noticed all that. though im not sure who shes directing the apparent resentment of the fact its a fling at, its like shes explaining matter of factly to the child that she was the result of a fling, while kinda taking a hit at the dad for not sticking around. that the 'dad' seems to get a chance to speak later on i think undoes it a bit.

actually i kinda got the idea that she was tryin not to talk bad about pops - kinda on a "we always knew it was never gonna last but we both love ya anyway" tip. thus softening the harshness of the "knows you're a fling" line, and making the message a bit more complex that your typical r&b diva "he ran off and he's a bastard, but who needs him anyway, woman power 4eva rrraaawwrrrr" schtick

messiahwannabe, Friday, 7 May 2010 08:07 (ten years ago) link

^^good post

xps "U HEARD ME" is kinda telegraphing the challop, don't u think?

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 11:41 (ten years ago) link

obv

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 7 May 2010 13:52 (ten years ago) link

still think she's saying flame xxpost

Moreno, Friday, 7 May 2010 19:00 (ten years ago) link

It's "flame," not "fling."

I doubt I will ever feel an urge to listen to anything but "Soldier of Love" itself.

― Andy K, Monday, February 8, 2010 9:43 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark

When I posted this, I should have noted that there was a source: the booklet.

Also:

http://www.sade.com/us/lyrics/babyfather/

Andy K, Friday, 7 May 2010 19:02 (ten years ago) link

interesting hear that from an official source (i commented on this before when i read that on some random lyrics page) but to me it clearly sounds like fling. i have a theory: she put it on the lyrics sheet as "flame" so as not to harsh her daughter, but sang it as "fling".

of course i could be reading way to much into this, obviously. anyway i like it as "fling" so i'll continue to choose to hear it as "fling"!

messiahwannabe, Saturday, 8 May 2010 06:13 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone with the time or cash to see the current Sade tour (first in ten years!) would be well served snagging a ticket. She was great last night, smooth as silk and oddly down to earth for someone of her status and reputation. Sound/band was great, too, and visuals were minimal but effective. I had my doubts she would work in an arena, but I was proven wrong. She may also be the best looking 52-year old I have ever seen.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 August 2011 20:21 (nine years ago) link

She may also be the best looking 52-year old woman I have ever seen.

jaxon, Saturday, 6 August 2011 20:54 (nine years ago) link

shes been doing arena tours for so long id hope shed be good! would have loved to have seen it last night $$$$$$$

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:09 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

saw the tour 2 days back (wednesday). HOLY SHIT so good. all the new stuff from Soldier of Love.... excellent. Love Deluxe cuts (cherish the day, kiss of life, no ordinary love, pearls) and Lovers Rock (by your side, king of sorrow) all fucking dynamite. only thing a bit cheesy was the old lounge-y stuff, the sweetest taboo, smooth operator... etc. but about 90% solid gold. "jezebel" was stunning, "morning bird" WOWOWOW. whole show was just so good really. john legend not bad either!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:11 (nine years ago) link

Those songs are not cheesy damn u

D-40, Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:31 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

hope this record has risen in ppl's estimations over the past few years. "in another time" is probably my favorite sade song at this point

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:04 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68OTrm5fC9o

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Good call – I'd forgotten about "In Another Time."

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:18 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

"Be That Easy" :O

geoffreyess, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:37 (four months ago) link

The whole second half really. Plus the rest.

geoffreyess, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:37 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

about to be the ten year anniv

i hate reading my tone in these old threads but i stand by the gist of 'being really stoked abt this album'

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

10 years wow. I still feel like I somehow haven’t yet had time to give it a good listen.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 10 January 2021 22:02 (two weeks ago) link

11th anniversary!

oh damn ... i cant count

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:12 (two weeks ago) link

#74 on pitchfork year end list .... ariel pink #1 ... thoughts on which has aged better

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:15 (two weeks ago) link

I was about to say: this came out when I was still in office at XLR8R, which ended in mid-2010. We had an office listening party when it came out.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:20 (two weeks ago) link

love this album so gd much

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:26 (two weeks ago) link

"be that easy" ... "in another time" ... tears

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:27 (two weeks ago) link

I remember my shock of glee when the title track was so awesome.

Just think: the Dems hadn't lost control of the Senate yet.


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