RFI: tell me more abt Ben Frost and things that sound like him because I don't really have a frame reference for this new agey ambient noisey stuff

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The Wire said dude is into burial, By the throat is the most hyperdub noise record i have ever heard, okay yah not really noise but it is noisey in bits in a kindof industrial way and there is a bit with wolves howling. WOLVES HOWLING!

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

this one iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qheTGTNxRVs

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

How'd he get the wolf samples they're awesome

wilter, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Saw a gig baot 2 years ago Lawrence English then chris corsano then Ben Frost iirc its was pretty sweet

wilter, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

samples or field recordings or whatev

wilter, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think it's a growth out of post-rock in his case - his last band, School of Emotional Engineering was post-rock. It's like a continuation/concentration of the soft --> loud dynamic into more electronic, laptop based music.

Treblekicker, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

lol seems like a total douche in his RA interview

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1173

plax (ico), Saturday, 15 May 2010 08:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did anyone see him on the tour with Sam Amidon?

Wax Cat, Saturday, 15 May 2010 08:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha my thoughts exactly

basic chanel (r1o natsume), Saturday, 15 May 2010 11:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Pissed off about the Brighton gig last night, which was a total disaster. Apparently the venue has some crazy tripswitch that kicks in if the sound reaches a certain level. The guy tried to play twice, both times all the sound was cut off just as things were building up, so he basically abandoned the show. So sad. FU Freebutt! Seems to be a doomed tour - speakers caught fire in London (anyone go to that? It got great reviews anyhow), Nottingham was cancelled at the last minute.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

LOL @ that interview linked upthread and @ the idea of this entitled douche thinking anyone should actually care what he has to say about anything

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 13:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haven't read it yet, but yeah, he seems to take himself very seriously, for better or worse.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 13:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, and there really isn't anything objectionable about his music but it's not like he's the second coming of Penderecki.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

or that there's aren't already thousands of people making this sort of music.

jed_, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Are there thousands of other people doing what he's doing? IMO he's doing something that's a lot darker and more violent and primal than folks like Tim Hecker or whoever.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think its more that hes ploughing a particular narrow venn intersection that isn't covered yet, i do care what he has to say, just disappointed its so dumb

plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

what's dumb about it?

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

i haven't heard any of his music. the clip above sounded ok. i don't see what's wrong with the interview though; i mean, i kind of agree with his general outlook about making music. and dance music being about the place and time it happens in. am i missing something?

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

and i also don't like projection backdrops at live shows, mostly because they're usually not very good and distracting.

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bungee jumping, amphetamines and self-asphyxiation: These are the three things that the Iceland-based Ben Frost tells me via e-mail "fire our primal emotions."

OH OK

AllMusic Guide called you a composer in their review of By the Throat. Is that what you'd call yourself?

Sure, I mean I've tried all kinds of hats. They're all equally stupid, but of all of them "composer" seems least ridiculous. You say "musician," you are another guitar-slinger, you say "sound artist" and nobody outside of a handful of hardcore Wire subscribers has any interest in what you are doing, you say "artist" and God help you at US border security—you'll have some guy's fist up your colon so fast...

Ultimately, I would prefer that my music comes through the door before I do, or that it's experienced live first. Nobody cares what I call myself when it's coming at you at 120db.

OH ME AND MY MUSIC ARE SO FASCINATING AND COMPLEX AND NUANCED THAT I CAN'T BE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE DEGRADING 'MUSICIAN' CATEGORY.

He presents a good case as to why no one should do uppers---ever.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

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I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

projection much?

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

srsly if you can't perceive the macho douchiness in that interview, then maybe you're the one projecting.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe we're both projecting, onto Ben Frost at one of his 120 db shows, much to his macho douchey chagrin

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i agree he comes across as a bit of a gimp. especially when you take into account that one of the songs on his new record is called "we love you michael gira" or something like that

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

what's wrong with trying to take what you're doing seriously? and talk about it as such? seems like that's all he's trying to do to me. i start not to agree with him when he says our modern culture tries to remove itself from primal fear, because "primal" is a trump card, i think fear has always been social and political even when it's "primal." and then ghostbusters and peter venkman, wtf.

anyway, when i want to listen to something and think about fear, awe, the natural world, and the subconscious, there's a lot of nurse with wound. that's what the clip above reminded me of, but not as good. maybe his other stuff is different? idk

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

"we love you michael gira"

It's a bonus track and I think it's called "Song For Michael Gira".

"Bungee jumping, amphetamines and self-asphyxiation: These are the three things that the Iceland-based Ben Frost tells me via e-mail "fire our primal emotions.""

This sentence is totally goofy.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

really don't see how his response to the "composer" question is pompous. the question itself is stupid, though. he could have done a lot worse

hobbes, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean, his opinion there is not really douch-ey or controversial at all and is probably shared by most of the other dudes doing "noisy ambient" stuff

hobbes, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

he definitely has a song called "we love you michael gira". it's on theory of machines. there's also one called "study for michael gira" iirc

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMiVMeE8lU

Yeah, it's 'We Love You Michael Gira'. Kind of reminiscent of Caspar Brotzmann or something.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

he just sounds like a guy that cares

156, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

"there's also one called "study for michael gira" iirc"

Ah that's what I was thinking of. Haven't heard his first record? Is it more of the same?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

"music should be all acoustic bc electronic instruments are bad (?) and it is only interesting for conceptual reasons that are conducive to me transcending all categories of artistic production, anyway c u guys im gonna go paintballing w/ my bros and tap into some primal emotions"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok yeah

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 21:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I don't really know what this will mean but he's now being 'mentored' by Brian Eno...

http://www.rolexmentorprotege.com/en/music/index.jsp

WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Thursday, 22 July 2010 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

a little bummed that his interview self is kind of a dick but by the throat is one of the best damn things - musically dude is the real deal in my opinion

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 22 July 2010 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

big lol @ dude gettin attitude abt "another guitar-slinger" one the one hand and what's his front-of-stage dude playin when he gets on tv? oh right, a Fender Jag

les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 22 July 2010 13:05 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I really like this album, and, after reading the interview, also really like Ben Frost. Don't know what's got ILX's panties in a bunch. Seems like a committed, intelligent, occasionally funny dude.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlPZkR8v2TQ

Ben Frost and Daníel Bjarnason - SÓLARIS

Released: November 07 2011

Ben Frost and Daníel Bjarnason are two composers used to shrugging off the distinction between experimental sound-art and deeply felt melodies. Frost’s vast, blackened post-industrial works often crystallize in moments of quiet beauty before disintegrating in pure visceral noise; Bjarnason’s orchestral music marries brutal modernism to classical aesthetics one moment and soaring ethereal harmonies the next. And yet here, on the tail of two widely acclaimed releases; Bjarnason’s PROCESSIONS and Frost’s BY THE THROAT, we are given something altogether new. A unique collaboration, SÓLARIS is a quiet, stilled and all consuming symphonic suite at once as affecting and uncanny as the science- fiction classic that inspired it.

The power of Andrei Tarkovsky’s Solaris is not in its futuristic sets, or in the hypnotic shots of the alien planet’s weird, fluid surface, but it’s in the way he juxtaposes his alien, futuristic elements against the intimately familiar. This is a future not just of flashing lights and video screens, but of wood and wool and leather, of dogs and horses, books and photographs. In Frost & Bjarnason’s SÓLARIS we do find the futuristic, gaseous atmospheres and pulses one might expect from a sci-fi soundtrack. Yet here they are carved instead from the warm, fragile sonorities of a string orchestra -Poland’s Sinfonietta Cracovia- a gently prepared piano whose harmonies warp and melt before transforming again—and waves upon waves of guitar.

http://www.bedroomcommunity.net/releases/solaris

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Will buy

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

It's great!

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

The new Roll The Dice record on Leaf has a few moments that verge on Frost's 'new agey ambient noisy' approach (other times it seems more like Vladislav Delay gone Sowiesoso or something, not that that's a whole world away)--this piano-led track's got some dark thuds, clanks, draggings and growls to it (hi, Owen--are you still in the land of the Bedroom Community, speaking of whom?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6lKOSdPsm0

Spectrum Spools presents: Blogosfear (Craig D.), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes, I'm in that land. I went to see the Bedroom Community documentary at RIFF just a few days ago. Valgeir had mixed all the live performances from the Whale Watching tour in 5.1 and it sounds great, I mean, of course it does, that music was made for 5.1.

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 October 2011 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Ben Frost and Daníel Bjarnason - SÓLARIS

Saw them premiere this piece live in Krems earlier this year, fine stuff.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 3 October 2011 08:04 (five years ago) Permalink

"study (pretentious, moi?) for michael gira" (clunking great coat-tailsing name drop);
"x-box background music" for witold lutoslawski;
"lowest common denominator" for justin broadrick;
"let me do valhalla rising 2" for nicholas winding refn;
"halloween minuet" for andrew mackenzie.
"threnody for dwayne goettel" (dedicated to matt elliot);
"a FIRM grip on a guitar" (so butch!);
o you bad boy with a shotgun in your publicity shot TAKE ME out of my comfort zone.
pissing all over a tarkovsky movie and an eduard artemiev soundtrack?
ultra dud.
moreso that there are so many mentally 14 yrs old puffa jacket dweebs & sweatshort shellac "fuckin kill him" singalongers in the world that he has a career. gadzooks!
love the way he berates james cameron over lack of subtlety & ambiguity. pot / kettle.

iglu ferrignu, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

You might have a point if his music didn't sound quite so amazing.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2011 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

By which I mean yes, he does come across as somewhat pretentious and yes, I do find that sort of hard-man-of-noise posturing a little silly, but the quality of sound on his records is just plain incredible to me.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2011 18:30 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

There's no Rolling Classical thread at the moment

And it is too good for the Boomkat thread

But Daniel Bjarnason quietly put out a record last year, last September. I saw a concert in Reykjavik that included a couple of works represented here and it was quite simply the most successful new music premiere I've ever attended. The "free-to-listen" track here is representative. Amazing amazing string writing, this guy is my young favourite composer.

http://danielbjarnason.bandcamp.com/album/over-light-earth

the most important comma of all time (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 February 2014 13:12 (three years ago) Permalink

it sounds like jerry goldsmith

massaman gai, Thursday, 6 February 2014 15:21 (three years ago) Permalink

We have Jerry Goldsmith's soundtrack to "Alien" to prepare everyone's ears for a whole world of dissonant symphonic music

the most important comma of all time (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 February 2014 15:38 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

:0

https://soundcloud.com/benfrost/ben-frost-venter

Number None, Sunday, 23 March 2014 01:16 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm liking Ben Frost, as far as I've listened (thanks to this thread), though maybe it all goes down a little too easily. Or is that my atrophied attention? I don't even remember noticing his name before.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 24 March 2014 03:27 (three years ago) Permalink

"Too good for the Boomkat thread" < made me chuckle.

djh, Monday, 24 March 2014 20:54 (three years ago) Permalink

New track is awesome.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 12:52 (three years ago) Permalink

The 4-minute mark on "Venter" might be my favorite musical moment so far this year.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:59 (three years ago) Permalink

That Frost & Bjarnsson Solaris thing is quite special; highly recommend giving it a listen

Is Oneohtrix too obvious to be recommended here?

a duiving caTCH, a stuolllen bayeeeess (jamescobo), Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:10 (three years ago) Permalink

oneohtrix is good, though

massaman gai, Sunday, 30 March 2014 10:31 (three years ago) Permalink

New album sounds pretty great.

crowhurst, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 15:01 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Good to see that the WIRE have finally persuaded Vincent Van Goch to do one last interview.

Doran, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:18 (three years ago) Permalink

This thread begins and ends with The Wire.

goth colouring book (anagram), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:31 (three years ago) Permalink

that Wire cover and this Crack cover are like the yin and yang of hairy electronic dudes

http://image.issuu.com/140506151706-4523788dc6268f606b391963c2ea1954/jpg/page_1_thumb_large.jpg

Merdeyeux, Monday, 19 May 2014 13:15 (three years ago) Permalink

I like this record but the really high pitched sounds keep making me think I left an old CRT television on mute somewhere.

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:14 (three years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/advance/447-a-u-r-o-r-a/ dude is the like superchunk of cinematic dronesplosion noise in that he does a very obvious thing very well, i'm into it, but will this one have a rad wolf on the cover

adam, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:54 (three years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

this V A R I A N T EP is pretty cool

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 15:55 (two years ago) Permalink

still embarrassed that I pretty much missed Ben Frost's whole set at a festival due to time constraints

but he's going to be in Iowa City in April!!

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 15:56 (two years ago) Permalink

iglu ferrignu post upthread is hilarious -- the one time i listened to this dude the "aggressiveness" of it just felt rote to me

(曇り) (clouds), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

I still rate the quality of this guy's sound design, but there's a few moments on AURORA where these big synths lines come in and it feels like he's channeling Scooter

sosmix klopp (NickB), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 16:02 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah, check the remix ep

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 16:13 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Have previously dismissed him as a bit ... melodramatic/unlistenable ... but he really works on the "Fortitude" TV series.

djh, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:48 (one year ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Sound track seemingly being released tomorrow:

https://boomkat.com/products/music-from-fortitude

djh, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:04 (three months ago) Permalink


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