slint -- _spiderland_: classic or dud

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in the right state i have appreciated it. but i don't really like it. and in many ways i wish it had never been made. somehow i've never felt so satisfied and relieved after selling a cd as i did after selling this, which even made me cry once, last summer. i will try to explain further after some of your responses. one well-articulated "dud" will make me feel better.

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No way is this a dud. Classic in both the "touchstone" sense as well as just how frikin good it is. To be honest, I always thought "Tweez" was a better album in many ways, and that the s/t EP topped both. But "Spiderland" is indeed a classic, as is slint. "Washer" is a lovely broken hearted track to collaps and be morose to, but Goodnight Captain is the one to crank the volume on, turn off the lights, and let work its magic. Some music commands respect -- like I don't want to talk to other people while it plays because I'm listening so intently. Spiderland is just such music.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's too late for a well-articulated dud, and I have work to finish, but "Dud" it is. In my worse moods, this CD seems responsible for everything that went wrong in music during the last decade. OK, this is the Sgt Peppers => Prog argument and so inadmissible, but the thing is that the emphasis on knottiness and technique, and the emotional sourness and dourness, and the really-not-that-interesting dynamics and time signatures stuff are all present and correct on this too.

Not that I've listened to it in almost four years, though.

The vocals when they appear are bad, too.

Tom, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually heard this record for the first time a few days ago, and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. I had been reading a bunch of old Big Black interviews where Steve said that he loved Slint so much that he would lend them money just to have the privilege of producing their stuff, and I really don't get it at all. Perhaps there is other Slint stuff I would like? What do you guys think of "Tweez"?

Dave M., Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Undoubtedly classic and I was surprised they hadn't come up for discussion before.

I think Tom is wrong here. Or rather, I think he’s missing a whole lot of fun. To my ears this indie scene (from slint to Aerial M to the For Carnation to Palace Brothers plus zillions of other spin off projects) seems very strong - bands finding audiences for all sorts of projects, lots of cross-fertilisation, forward looking, the emphasis on cheap production tools. I like a lot of these bands, and even when I’m not so wild (Tortoise don’t do much for me if I’m honest) I respect what they’re about. Their influence has probably peaked but compared to the mess that was British indie well, that’s a whole other thread really.

Of slint’s very limited back catalogue I like the final EP (Glenn/Rhoda) best at the moment.

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

On reflection "missing" is wrong. It’s more the normal swing-away critical pattern. The ‘90s have to seem as awful as the ‘80s once seemed. Fair enough, and many ‘90s bands have ended up on my top shelves where they will remain for another decade or so.

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, "missing" is right, cause your second post assumes I liked this stuff during the 90s: not the case.

The scene as described - side-projects, cross-fertilisation, forward looking etc - is indeed *exactly* what a good scene 'ought' to be which is probably why I spent so much time c.94-97 trying to find stuff I liked in it. Apart from the occasionally superb Palace, little joy. The music from Slint on in has always seemed dry and uninvolving.

It's to do with my limits as a listener as much as anything: I'm not a musician and so can't technically appreciate a lot of what's going on, and I tend to listen to music for moments rather than flows (not exclusively cf. my interest in minimalism) - aside from the tape drop- out gag on "Djed" little of the post-Slint stuff has grabbed me on that basis.

Tom, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. The album in question is an austere, shapeshifting masterpiece, and surely one of the most original of the 90s. The first few notes of "Washer" and the sombre geometry of the repeating guitar riff are some of the most haunting things I've ever heard. It's interesting they get described as uninvolving, a bit like a recent Guardian critique of Kasuo Ishiguro that calls him dry, cerebral and unemotional. I'm just left completely baffled, because his books move me more than almost any other author. I guess you just either get off on sombre geometry or ya don't ;-)

The influence thing with Slint has become a bit of a joke, though. When prog-metal bands like Geiger Counter namecheck them, they're namechecking their preciousness and deliberate complexity. Isolate these things and they are no more than quixotic. Add them to rich and mysterious songs, and you've got a winner.

Peter, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom - does the ‘moments’ thing affect how you listen to dance music? I could imagine it giving you a very hard time with House…

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I first heard slint after four or five years of only listening to dance music and it was the repetition and flow that drew me in…

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Interesting question - because I do love house music. I think it's unchanging or near-unchanging flow - 'current' let's call it, heh - that I like rather than the changing dynamics and tempos and patterns in eg. jazz or post-rock. None of this is exclusive of course.

House at its best tends to give you moments plus current anyway - breakdowns, diva cries, emotional catharsis and the pulsebeat. "Your Love" (Frankie Knuckles) for instance with that looping keyboard pattern (current) and then Jamie Principle coming in with "I cant let go" (moment).

Some of the Chicago-ish stuff does balance those things. Smog's Red Apple Falls and "All Your Woman Things" have murderously repetitive guitar patterns - reminiscent of Arnold Dreyblatt in the attention paid to the droning string buzz - and then Callahan's lyrics provide the focal point. Similarly some of Jim O'Rourke's solo stuff has gorgeous pop moments - I forgot Bad Timing in my first post.

Tom, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I find the Lou Reediness of Smog and Yo La Tengo vocals problematic, and this has stopped me going beyond an album with each. But you’re making them sound interesting. Can you do a search here?

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Back when _Spiderland_ came out, folks around the college station I worked at made much merry over it. I think I played something from it once. The end. I have it in my collection somewhere and there it sits, staring at me. Yet I ignore it, really.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Send it to me, Ned, then I can relisten to it and try to figure out what all the fuss is about...I never got it the times I've heard it, either.

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well, i am a musician of sorts. i think i am able to appreciate flow and "sombre geometry" (as i suspect tom does as well, given the appreciation he and i share for ryoji ikeda, pan sonic, and charlemagne palestine, or even pil and joy division for that matter) and i feel almost exactly the same way towards _spiderland_ as tom does. if only once i was in the right environment where i could appreciate it on its own terms and sort of see why everyone who put down my tastes thought it was a masterpiece. aside from that though, for a long time, it just seemed so, well, dry and uninviting, the epitome of an unappealing aesthetic. like something in me recoiled at the idea of getting into it on the terms required. the feeble vocals were the biggest turn-off. musically, it seemed dry-sounding, very plodding, pointlessly knotty and technical. . . the repeated figures just didn't seem interesting enough to be worth repeating.

and there's something else to it at the root of my distaste for post- rock, something bigger, an emotional quality i have trouble articulating. in a weird way, despite its lesser attachment to pop song convention, the music strikes me as more "conventional" in a bad way on some level than the husker du or sonic youth that preceded it. i don't know how to put it any better right now. i'm still trying to figure it out since i really like a lot of classic postpunk and indie/alternative rock and even enjoyed a fair bit of emo and hardcore. i'm probably always harping on this but it's a sense of alienation from a culture and aesthetic tradition that i thought i could relate to at one point.

tom: never write yourself off as a listener because you're not a musician. musical technique is just a tool to create something worth listening to.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That "Captain" song (last thing on the album) is really great. I love songs that build slowly into one huge, crushing moment, and that does it just about perfectly. What I love about it is how it takes the noise and power of metal and focuses it on a such a brief slice of time. That song is beyond classic, even if it did spawn June of '44 or Sweep The Leg Johnny or any of those bands (whihc I've never heard, but you know.)

The album as a whole, though, I've never quite warmed to. A couple of other good moments (maybe "Breadcrumb Trail" if I'm remembering the title right) but not very consistant.

Mark, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I like the sole Rodan album more. Still, I'd say Spiderland is damned fine, "Good Morning, Captain" is fab.

joseph, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I drag this record out every year to try and find out what everyone's so excited about. I never do. Maybe I should just give up. The cover's a total classic, though. In fact, I think that's the reason I bought it. Cute band alert! Way to go, Wil Oldham!

Arthur, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Whilst sharing reservations mentioned above about the scenes that 'spiderland' clearly inspired its still an album of austere beauty. Dark, brooding and menacing.

Stevo, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
man,i only got into slint after hearing a few people mention their name a thousand times(steve albini,paul dempsey from something for kate and stuart braithwaite from mogwai).they are the juice.i've read this in many places,but their mix of hardcore,post-punk,jazz,prog rock and noise is what indie-rock is.The shifting arrangements and the narrations are what make the music pieces,not songs,PIECES.where tweez was a bit more hardcore tinged,spiderland is prog-rock/noise influenced with maybe a beat poetry thing going on.good morning,captain is a sad story,if my band fault could likened to them,i would honoured.

shoeb ahmad, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I suppose not hearing "Spiderland" when it first came out might blur why so many people love this record.

In a time where bands were either doing clones of early Butthole Surfers, still trying to be hardcore as fuk, trying to move to the Northwest, or trying to morph something new into the Husker Du model-- this record shows up. It just wasn't like anything else.

It is the only record from "1991" that I still find myself pulling out of the stacks.

earlnash, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Peter - I like the ishiguro/slint comparison. Two of the things that I love most in the world, and now I'm wondering if there is some important similarity there. For want of a less vague word, I'd have to say 'subtlety'. There's something utterly refreshing about an artist who knows what to leave out (which is a cliche, but I feel not many bands have understood that as well as slint did, and not many writers as well as ishiguro does)... 'Spiderland' forces the listener to appreciate the worth, significance and meaning of every single note. The criticism that this has inspired an army of bands with what, in the wrong hands, is a questionable approach to making music - being puritanical, perfectionist, and restrained - is well directed, but its really not slint's fault that so many of their followers have turned out to be a bit bad at what they were so good at. Some of the bands who claim to have assimilated the slint ethic are just lying as well, Mogwai being the obvious example. They're not even talented enough to copy slint, let alone continue the path they began. It reminds me of when bands like Urusei Yatsura or placebo claim to have been influenced by sonic youth, when they're clearly lacking the vision and dedication and integrity required to really understand what made sonic youth so great. Slint have spawned some great bands though - Shipping News perhaps the best.

sam wiseman, Monday, 10 March 2003 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

its really to artculate why i really love this album. and i don't even like post rock.

basically they came out with a way of doing quiet/loud dynamics within the 'song' framework that is quite original. so classic for just that.

I will try and come up with more bcz I haven't heard in a long long time.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i started off (like many of the above) as a side b guy.

but side a ... nosferatu man is such a great song. i think it's the best song they ever wrote.

the "quiet/loud" dynamic thing is mentioned quite a bit but i don't understand why slint defines it. some of their songs are quiet, some are loud, a couple are both. many other bands in rock have done quiet/loud earlier and better.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sam - are you saying Slint are good because of their ability to sleuce out all the uneccesary bits, all the ego, all the dross, all the stuff that shows off the band rather than the songs, so they have these refined songs with no unnecessary bits - pure old streamline...

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

earlnash, do you have any other records from 1991? 'loveless'? 'laughing stock'?

john fail (cenotaph), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

''the "quiet/loud" dynamic thing is mentioned quite a bit but i don't understand why slint defines it. some of their songs are quiet, some are loud, a couple are both. many other bands in rock have done quiet/loud earlier and better.''

I can only think of dead C but since the songs were kind of loose in the first place...gimme names.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i find the shouty "intense" bits quite embarrassing to listen to now. i much prefer the straight scary story angle which i think was more fully realised in the for carnation at least the compilation cd which brings together the fighs ongs & marshmallows stuff. the later triphop / floydy for carnation well it's still good & quite masterfully done but it's not so ELUSIVE which was the strong point for me. were bitch magnet doing slint at the same time as slint without ripping off slint?

bob snoom, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

were bitch magnet doing slint at the same time as slint without ripping off slint?

The photo of the hand on the inside of Umber is over a cassette copy of Tweez.

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

sooyoung even got david grubbs to join them so they could channel that bluegrass outcast music.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

well yeah, and to replace Jon Fine when he got kicked out (twice!).

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i think britt walford plays on the last record too...

to answer bob snoom's question: bitch magnet were contemporaries of slint, the bulk of their output (2 LPs, 2 EPs) was released (i bleieve) prior to the release of spiderland (at which time, sooyoung and lexi started seam).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had the My Bloody Valentine album for years and I know it is heresy around these parts, but it has never been a favorite. MBV are definitely a unique sounding group and Loveless is a good album, but it has never been obsession to me like Slint.

As for Talk Talk, alas I still have never heard them. They are on a mental list of mine with groups like Seefeel, Bark Psychosis, Derutti Column, A Certain Ratio, The Sound, Kitchens of Distinction, Comsat Angels and other UK arty guitar groups I haven't heard, but would check out if I came across their records.

I've got a pretty good sized stash of lps/cds, but I am the first to admit, I haven't heard everything.

Around the same time I posted that comment, I really wasn't listening to that much guitar rock, especially from the 90s, that has changed in the past few months.

I don't know about the "shouty" parts being embarressing, at least for me part of the problem with much of the music of this type is that it never explodes, it kind of stays in one mood. I think in the lust for being taken "seriously" people banished the rock, which to me is a sad thing.

Beyond the dynamics of the music, the way that Slint arranged the guitars were was very lyrical and with quite a bit of harmonizing between the two players. I know that a couple of bands (Ativan & Pencil) playing from Bloomington in Spiderlands wake definitely built from the way the guitars were orchestrated.

earlnash, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i think britt walford plays on the last record too...

Now I know you're insane, gygax!

Somewhere in my parents' house is a tape of the Diablo Guapo demos with Britt on drums.

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i just checked AMG and it says he plays guitar ("shannon doughton"... the nickname that albini gave him)... am i crazy?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

1st slint=little big black.
2nd slint=a light year leap. excellent, though, maybe someone should travel back in time to prevent it from being made do to the damage its influence did.
post slint=horrible, horrible, horrible.

Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

plays guitar? In Bitch Magnet? WTF?

The Shannon Doughton name is actually from someone Britt went to school with.

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Stupid question in the back of my mind for years: Seam's Lexi, man or woman? (I didn't get to see them until after his/her departure.)

While you're at it, is Sooyoung up to anything these days?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Lexi is a woman.

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

sooyoung moved to san francisco, ca. he plays keyboards in a band called eE. i saw him AND ash bowie totally randomly (and non-music related) in the same day.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"Good Morning Captain" was one of those songs it took me a year to track down after hearing on late-night radio. But it's shrunk on me since... Not a dud, exactly, just I haven't gotten back into it for a decade...

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 10 March 2003 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever liked anything labeled "post-rock."

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

(mookieproof i like your handle)

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(i mean the email prefix name handle thingy part)

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, gygax! (blushes)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like spiderland
it was one of those albums that i had heard so much about that at first it seemed a little underwhelming,because i had heard about it in relation to bands who had since expanded upon the ideas,but eventually i grew to really like it
the same thing happened with the jesus and mary chain
i was listening to a fair bit of post rock when i got it though,whereas i haven't really listened to much along those lines in the last year
i've been meaning to give spiderland another listen though,to see if i still like it...

robin (robin), Monday, 10 March 2003 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

it's great. i love the whispered "help" on Good Morning Captain. And the "I MISS YOU"'s at the end are as moving as music gets. it's worthy of the fuss...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

b-b-but..."good morning captain" is great BECAUSE it's a sappy tear-jerker. there's nothing complex about the end, but it's so brutal and beautiful. i couldn't give a wanking goat about funny time signatures, or anything...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

tanya does not like music therefore any of her 'opinions' do not count.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

what the fuck!!!

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 07:15 (five years ago) link

OMG... this is really terrible

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 07:19 (five years ago) link

posting in case it disappears:

[controversial mod edit]

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 07:20 (five years ago) link

christ, he's got a pic of a noose around his neck. i am kind of freaking out here

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 07:21 (five years ago) link

I'm gutted. Really hoping someone who knows him well can get to him.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 13 February 2015 07:28 (five years ago) link

ok, a FOAF has supposedly gotten in touch with his brother, who says he's alive. i have no other information right now

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:00 (five years ago) link

that is some srsly fucking harrowing reading, man

whatever's up, hoping he comes through it

alpine static, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:02 (five years ago) link

jesus that's tough reading.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:12 (five years ago) link

He is in police custody, per twitter.

Posting that letter may have been the smartest move of his life.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:39 (five years ago) link


the late great, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:40 (five years ago) link

get well soon

the late great, Friday, 13 February 2015 08:42 (five years ago) link

That is one of the most heartbreaking, fucked-up things I've ever read. I really hope he pulls through and finds a better headspace.

Simon H., Friday, 13 February 2015 09:06 (five years ago) link

why would anybody repost that?

jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 11:09 (five years ago) link

or at least, can someone remove it now we know people are with him?

jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 11:09 (five years ago) link

yeah that's a good idea

Simon H., Friday, 13 February 2015 11:37 (five years ago) link

utterly harrowing read & experience. hoping hard that he gets all the help and support he needs.

Clay, Friday, 13 February 2015 11:56 (five years ago) link

How awful.

ʎɐpunsunɾɐɔ (cajunsunday), Friday, 13 February 2015 15:18 (five years ago) link

i posted to make sure that if it had details that could help someone get to him that it would be there. there was location information in there.

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:04 (five years ago) link

Posted just now on Instagram

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:23 (five years ago) link

oof, hope he gets through this

tylerw, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:26 (five years ago) link

Me too. The pic is encouraging. So intense to see his face after reading that though.

groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:28 (five years ago) link

Poor guy. Those bandages are scary.

jmm, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:30 (five years ago) link

nothing really constructive you can say about this whole thing but jesus fucking christ dave :(

let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:45 (five years ago) link

how sad

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:51 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Never saw this before:

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 05:36 (five years ago) link

history of Louisville punk

After Skull of Glee, Steve Rigot played in In the Vines, Common Law Cabin and Women Who Love Candy, among other bands. He is an artist (painter) and lives in Southern Indiana.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:54 (five years ago) link

three months pass...


La Lechera, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 22:34 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 April 2017 06:48 (three years ago) link

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 April 2017 06:51 (three years ago) link

I bet that last band photo is their first band, Languid and Flaccid. Not Todd Brashear on bass there - I think it's Ned Oldham but not positive.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 27 April 2017 15:13 (three years ago) link

yeah, last photo is Ned on the right. but the fifth does not depict Ned; the fourth does, as well as Craig Brown and Chris Hawpe, Ned's tightest buds at the time.

apart from the last photo, its all from a J. Graham Brown School yearbook, probably '81-'84.

veronica moser, Thursday, 27 April 2017 15:45 (three years ago) link

Slint have finally sold out.

— Loud And Quiet (@LoudAndQuietMag) May 3, 2017

Neil S, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:01 (three years ago) link

o m g

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:16 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 December 2017 05:52 (two years ago) link

Ahead of their time in so many ways

circa1916, Thursday, 14 December 2017 05:56 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:25 (one year ago) link

thank you, that really hits the middle of a venn diagram of stuff my wife likes.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:37 (one year ago) link

aw that's cool good for him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:39 (one year ago) link

would exercise with todd

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:48 (one year ago) link

that's pretty cool

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:20 (one year ago) link

Love that he kept “wild and woolly”

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 21 February 2019 06:04 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

2 lengthy interviews with/by Britt from a few months ago:

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:28 (two months ago) link

I listened to that in march… and… I was present for the birth of Slint, attending their second, third and fourth shows, and then one in lville a year before the release of Spiderland… I cannot properly express my pride that guys that were only a few years older than me could possibly create music that unique, and he in particular is unlike any drummer to have ever walked the earth… I was in lville for most of the past week, and the awe with which they are regarded there is palpable… and…

I gotta say that interview is exceptional for showing how unusually inarticulate he is about what he has done (and probably everything else, as each of the times I have interacted with him he has been like that) relative to the hundreds of musicians i have interviewed. He is all show, and can't figure out how to tell or is incapable of telling.

veronica moser, Saturday, 11 July 2020 21:18 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

I like Spiderland but have literally not listened to it in years. And then today in the car my 16-year-old son plugs in his phone and puts on "Good Morning, Captain." He likes to play me stuff he's found, and to see if I know it. He is now apparently a big Slint fan. I think he got into it via his Microphones-inspired excavation of '90s indie. Anyway, 16-year-olds still getting excited over it nearly 30 years on says something for it.

That is so cool!

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:16 (one week ago) link

tipsy: did you recommend the documentary "Breadcrumb Trail" for your son?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 14 September 2020 12:12 (one week ago) link

No, and I haven't seen it either. Maybe we can watch it together.

I feel like seeing how young they were (and already most members were in their 3rd(+?) band) might be very motivating to someone of a similar age.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:17 (one week ago) link

Or you could read the book :)

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:26 (one week ago) link

There is an IG story on the Slint account that shows a screenshot of David, Todd, Britt, Brian on a Zoom call with Corey Rusk.


Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:00 (yesterday) link

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