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other hated charters yet to be represented:

flo rida
will.i.am or fergie (it's not like "my humps" was the worst thing either appeared on)
chris brown
creed
clay aiken (or any Idol vet)
katy perry

shady seems easily the most deserving, though

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney would never do his girl katy like that

what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

don't drown me like that, don't drown me like that, u know i love u baby, don't drown me like that

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: "Ass Like That" vs. "Just Lose It"

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

fergie

I think "Big Girls Don't Cry" would at least be in my top 5 worst singles of this decade.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

don't forget "labels or love."

but oh man, eminem. Mockingbird, When I'm Gone, 3am, Beautiful, Ass Like That...so many options. The only post "Lose Yourself" (which I don't even care for much) single I'll rep for is "Just Lose It" and I know I'm in the minority on that one.

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

was there one where a fart sound was part of the beat?

the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

what about his single that was designed to SHIFT THE COURSE OF THE ELECTION

deej, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i liked bully but it wasn't a single.

(or how to really contribute to a thread.)

SORRY ASS IMPRESSIONS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

what about his single that was designed to SHIFT THE COURSE OF THE ELECTION

"mosh" apparently did not even chart, shockingly

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

also love that the 'original' is labelled on youtube as 'Whats Going On (HIV/AIDS tribute)' like it is in honour of HIV/AIDS.

― SORRY ASS IMPRESSIONS (a hoy hoy), Monday, December 21, 2009 7:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

tiger's wood (latebloomer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

lol "mosh" is eminem's only song to make pazz'n'jop since "lose yourself," coming it at no. 12 in 2004, tied with Loretta Lynn's "Portland, Oregon" and just ahead of the killers and LCD Soundsystem.

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

how do you know that, half the pazz and jop results are lost in the sands of the internet

wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

lol "mosh" is eminem's only song to make pazz'n'jop since "lose yourself," coming it at no. 12 in 2004, tied with Loretta Lynn's "Portland, Oregon" and just ahead of the killers and LCD Soundsystem.

― da croupier, Monday, December 21, 2009 4:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

time it was what a time it was

the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

fu voice/new times for taking down the 04 p'n'j section so i can't find out who voted for "mosh" and ponder whether or not they'd prefer to listen to that or LCD's "yeah" if asked today

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

how do you know that, half the pazz and jop results are lost in the sands of the internet

all the top 40s are on xgau's website, it's only the ballots that are lost

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

this might help?

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://villagevoice.com

the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

easier:

http://robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pjres04.php

xhuxk, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

read more carefully, chuck

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, just noticed that, as soon as I posted; jumped ahead a few posts.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd be pretty surprised if any of those wayback machine searches (which seem to take forever to load) turn up lists of individual P&J voters' ballots, and associated lists of voters for each song/album. Those ballots never ran in an actual Voice "issue", on the net or in print (just a special link that was never conistently reliable even when live), but I guess that doesn't mean they might not still be out there, somewhere. (The New Times folks seem to have erased everything, but the links were always kinda shakey, even under the old regime.)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

it turned it up and poring through them now

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

put my findings on the Mosh thread so any tangential nostalgia lols can continue there.

da croupier, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope it's not a has-been like eminem

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

eminem has been doing some good stuff the last few months, i'm actually very interested in hearing his next album after the disappointment(? can't say i was expecting a lot) of relapse

kaygee, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link

maura and i just spent like four hours writing this thing

wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link

#1!

(fuck you, Ned!)

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

(just kidding, but I had to take the opportunity)

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

a little bummed that the top is an admittedly hellish cover rather while a true shitstorm Shady goes unacknowledged entirely. i'm not sold that hellish covers are a notable aspect of the 00s so much as pop in general (though youtube does make it easier to poop one out without really promoting it), and I'd hate for negligible artists to think they should focus on their originals (which I really think tend to be worse - sure adam duritz ripped us a big one of his own this decade) instead of inane takes on old chestnuts. I mean better they reiterate the canon instead of attempting to add new entries.

That said, this list was lolgastic, and I'm obviously grateful for something to blather about.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

don't ask me what "lolgastic" means because i don't know

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, the one gripe i keep making about this list is that there are too many sullied 20th century songs, not enough terrible songs actually written in the last 10 years represented

some dude, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

still, it's been a hell of a ride! especially this thread becoming ground zero to track the death of idolator.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I will say this: the Counting Crows cover is always playing in my doctor's waiting room, so there is a lot of fear and dread I associate w/this song.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

why did they let a hobo front their band? was it some sort of sponsership deal with shelter?

SORRY ASS IMPRESSIONS (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

while a true shitstorm Shady goes unacknowledged entirely

"Ass Like That" was on the first draft of the list.

Da doing doing doyyyyyng

wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

if, unlike Alien Ant Farm, Smashmouth and most of the acts in that last entry, I can't necessarily pull out a Counting Crows original that's worse, it's because "Big Yellow Taxi" was a humongous piece of shit before they even got their paws on it.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the first version I ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml6l1wCWXiE

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

great final entry

the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

lol wow i forgot the big skynyrd guitar solo in grant's version, wtf

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney and maura (if she reads ilm), you are gods for this list and luckily you have 10 yrs to recover before the sequel.

SORRY ASS IMPRESSIONS (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The amount of writing we did total for this is the size of a 33 1/3 book

wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno what the legals would be, but you guys should look to get it published! just tack on a new top 50-100 albums list or something.

some scary shit from the song's wikipedia page:

In 1996 a "Big Yellow Taxi (Traffic Jam Mix)" peaked on the U.S. dance charts at #39 and was part of the Friends: Music from the TV Series soundtrack album (see Joni Mitchell#Singles and External links).

The song was also performed as part of the finale during the 1997 Lilith Fair tour with the Indigo Girls, Jewel, Sarah McLachlan and Meredith Brooks.

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

or worst 50-100 albums list, i mean

da croupier, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

call it 33 and a turd

the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney, i literally clapped my hands while giggling to that entry. i think 'board-shorted' might be my new favorite term.

And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

call it 33 and a turd

― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:52 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^____________^

deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

A serious thank-you to Whiney and Maura for all the work they put into this. I loved reading/listening to it.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was a lot of fun to read. Thank you both.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Likewise!! It is great stuff.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean you knew that already. What I meant was that I loved it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link


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