Worst Beatles song on Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

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Geir is inoffensive

you need to check the "Ringo Starr: Luckiest Man Alive?" thread

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 September 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is... why bother w/ him? You're just perpetuating it.

Turangalila, Friday, 25 September 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude has annoyed me enough times that I felt like Sb'ing. A lot of people, myself most probably included, have got sb'ed for less. I guess mentioning it was the mistake.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Friday, 25 September 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I unashamedly love this album. As has been said upthread, this is probably the most 'Paul' album, but I don't think that's a bad thing. He's responsible for some awful twee crap at times, but not here. I really like 'When I'm 64' and 'She's Leaving Home'. As for the weakest track, well... I don't think there's anything *really* bad on this album, but 'Within You, Without You' is a bit meandering, and 'Good Morning, Good Morning' is a bit jarring, but the worst one (and I can't believe no one else has gone for this) is 'With A Little Help From My Friends'. Ringo should never sing. I might be haunted/influenced by the Wet Wet Wet version, though.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 25 September 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and I'd never noticed that weird rolling 'r' thing in "Grandchildren on your knee" until I read this thread.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 25 September 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

X-post First off, I happen to rate Roy Wood very highly for both his rocking psych-pop (Fire Brigade, Night of Fear) and his trippy whimsical tunes (Flowers in the Rain, The Girl Outside). Obviously in hindsight the Move pale enormously in terms of influence, importance, and admittedly even innovation to the Beatles but I don't know, I guess I just consider them one of the sharpest British bands making records in the late 1960s. An awe-inspiring run of singles really.

And of course I love those tunes mentioned by the Kinks and the Who and the Byrds but none sound so singular and massive as Day in the Life to me. I was more or less trying to imagine if those bands were all like, "HOLY SHIT" or rather, "Whatever, artsy bullshit, etc." I guess maybe I just need to get some sleep...

Also, I realize Wilson was the Beatles main competition, I guess I'm just not as interested in his reaction to it for whatever reason. My timeline may be wrong but I thought Smile had been scrapped and Wilson had really lost touch by the time Pepper came out. (But maybe it was WHEN Pepper came out...)

ColinO, Saturday, 26 September 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely not With a Little Help from My Friends

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 26 September 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

'with a little help from my friends' is one of my favorite songs on here, definitely my favorite ringo-sung tune

mark cl, Saturday, 26 September 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, I realize Wilson was the Beatles main competition, I guess I'm just not as interested in his reaction to it for whatever reason. My timeline may be wrong but I thought Smile had been scrapped and Wilson had really lost touch by the time Pepper came out. (But maybe it was WHEN Pepper came out...)

There a notorious moment when Wilson was riding in the car with (damn, I forget who now), and they hear Strawberry Fields for the first time. Brian pulled over and wept, just saying "they beat me to it".

Dude, do brown. (PappaWheelie V), Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

^Does anybody really do that? You'd think hearing a great new song on the radio would make you want to drive faster & rock the neighborhood.

Josefa, Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Depends on the music I guess.

I can only remember doing that once, when in a thick fog, early morning, not another car in sight. Laura Veirs' 'Through December' came on and I was just baffled and speechless from the very first notes on. It hit home hard and I had to park the car right there and then.

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

also, need it be mentioned that Brian Wilson is a weird dude?

tylerw, Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Depends on the music I guess.

I can only remember doing that once, when in a thick fog, early morning, not another car in sight. Laura Veirs' 'Through December' came on and I was just baffled and speechless from the very first notes on. It hit home hard and I had to park the car right there and then.

― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:15 PM (23 minutes ago)

you guys most likely aren't one of the handful of genius pop-rock composers vying for immortality when that song comes on the radio, just guessin'

iago g., Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

What gave it away?

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 26 September 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I meant to reference Josefa's comment about who would pull over when they first heard SFF...Brian Wilson would!

iago g., Saturday, 26 September 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I was so awed that I pulled over once too - not to weep, I just needed not to be doing anything else for those few minutes. I wish I could remember what song it was.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 26 September 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I've heard that said of "When A Man Loves A Woman" (Percy Sledge), probably mentioned in Guralnick's Sweet Soul Music, but not sure who was the driver moved/gobsmacked enough to pull over.

Paul, Saturday, 26 September 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe the tears welling in Brian Wilson's eyes made it difficult to drive.

Josefa, Saturday, 26 September 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 26 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Compared w/ "Tomorrow Never Knows" esp., "Lucy in the Sky w/ Diamonds" is a fairly rote paean to LSD imo. Still pretty awesome, mind, but I think it is the weakest spot. It took me about five days to make this decision.

Andrew "Nice" Clay (Pillbox), Saturday, 26 September 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds because it's fucking shit.

― Alba, Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:34 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ this

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 27 September 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Lucy In The Sky has an awesome bassline throughout, and Lennon's vocals come close to defining classic .. also the three drum hits before the chorus are ass kicking every time. So yeah, sure, fucking shit.. You got it.

billstevejim, Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"lucy in the sky" is not actually a "paean to LSD," as lennon said about a million times.

i always thought the rather thumping, obvious chorus of that song was a real letdown after the dreamy, evocative verses.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

me too. sounds like they had an stray annoying mccartney chorus lying about and decided to plaster it on.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, cos Lennon would never write an annoying lyric.

I saw your posse, but now it's me who's bossy (DavidM), Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah George Martin always said the chorus was a letdown after hearing the verses too.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 27 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

wau, title track hate! I don't ever listen to it independently of the rest of the album, but it + the reprise are what I look forward to when I do.

"apostrophe" is not Latin for "watch out for the S" (reddening), Sunday, 27 September 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

confused as to how getting better managed pretty much the same number as day in the life o_O

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Sunday, 27 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

disgusted by how many people voted for She's Leaving Home which is the best song on the record.

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 27 September 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, something smells fishy...is it me or are the results not seeming to reflect the comments that precede them? hmmm......

iago g., Sunday, 27 September 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Moodles post upthread about "64" deserves an OTM.

dog latin, Monday, 28 September 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

disgusted by how many people voted for She's Leaving Home which is the best song on the record.

^^^^^^^

iatee, Monday, 28 September 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

confused as to how getting better managed pretty much the same number as day in the life o_O

listening tip: listen to "Getting Better" on headphones

Paul, Monday, 28 September 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

disgusted by how many people voted for She's Leaving Home which is the best song on the record.

^^^^^^^

― iatee, Monday, September 28, 2009 3:21 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 28 September 2009 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Happy that "Within You Without You" didn't come first/last. (And happy about the several folks upthread who like that song now but didn't before.) Nick's right, that instrumental middle section is awes.

I Love Beatles Polls New Answers (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 28 September 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Still, 20 votes is too high!

Mark G, Monday, 28 September 2009 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand people voting for "When I'm 64", which is really nothing special. But those voting for "She's Leaving Home" haven't really understood anything at all.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 28 September 2009 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't understood anything at all of what? You're perpetually insane melody-fascism?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 September 2009 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

in other pepper news, lucy in the sky, r.i.p.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel bad now.

Alba, Monday, 28 September 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

and in further news, i possibly should have listened to 'getting better' again before voting

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll say!

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

well tbh thinking about it, it's between 'getting better', 'fixing a hole', 'she's leaving home', and 'when i'm 64' sheerly by dint of being *slightly* less brilliant than the other tracks...fucked if i know which one i'd choose out of those 4

lucy in the sky with diamonds is a fucking superb piece of music, and the chorus is GREAT, especially in the OH MY GOD AMAZING FADEOUT which is one of the best things the beatles ever did, the way those sitar chimes ring out over the infinitely repeated refrain is just godlike

it chills my marrow to see 9 individual music-loving people vote for 'lovely rita'

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Today I've been loving 'Good Morning Good Morning' and the reprise. It's odd that such a record should have a forgotten corner, but that's what they feel like.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

au contraire, the record's post-64 speed to the finish is and always has been joyous

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

t chills my marrow to see 9 individual music-loving people vote for 'lovely rita'

― should probably be practising shorthand (country matters)

But tell us, how do you really feel?

iago g., Monday, 28 September 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

well there's not SUCH a big difference between any of the songs on this record (except LSD, WYWY, GMGM and Day In The Life being maybe a bit better than the others) so a bit of subjectivity is allowed for i guess

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

'lovely rita' really wants to please you tho, it's not the best thing here but it really wants you to like it, more than any other song here, it just wants to be your friend, how can you vote for it :(

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

She's Leaving Home is boring

Poliopolice, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link


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