Do goths ever get funky?

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What "goths" from the eighties have used funk beats? Surely goth music isn't all about shooting up and slashing your wrists. I am trying to make a new mix CD and your suggestions are appreciated.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, get thee to Bauhaus' art damaged glam disco circa Mask. Check out the basslines on Dancing and Kick In The Eye (especially the live versions thereof) and those disco hi-hats and tell me goth is depressing?

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

The Pop Group is sort of in this ballpark.

Bauhaus did cover Third Uncle, which has kickdrum syncopation not unlike that found in funk.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

get thee to the new 13th Chime reissue!!!!!!

rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41W-NIjMfs

bnw, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

xpost
(on sacred bones records): http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/releases/sbr3001/

rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah Siouxsie totally leapt to mind for me, even as far back as "Metal Postcard".

"So messy!" (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

peek a boo isn't funk it's a polka!

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

ooooh OH oooooooooh ooooooooh OH oooooohhh kick in the EYE! oh! oh! oh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oe1ljgJ2eA

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBm-m67d3Bg

"So messy!" (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRae2dRbc-0

^ The Cult - Resurrection Joe

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, that video is ridiculous. Song is almost as funky as Shriekback though.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Shriekback is actually a very good call for this thread! "Malaria", "Everything That Rises Must Converge", "Fish Below The Ice"...

"So messy!" (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

it's not a polka

xp

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol I was gonna suggest Shriekback but then thought nah not really goth enough...

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

"My Spine Is The Bassline"!

"So messy!" (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnpwuRlXbhk

^ Don't tell Alex I posted that here

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHnbYp-k2Y

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pLxOMgbO1w

^ Possibly only borderline funky. Proper goth though.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

xp Jordan - is there some syncopation I'm missing? It seems to be pretty straight.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK6drtuGric

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJ1vdn8n5U

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sivqcFIa_iA

^ actually this is a much better Danse Society song

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

there's syncopation in the reversed horns and hi-hat, and most of the other parts. seems like they're going for a version of that 80s funk thing. the kick & snare are holding it down on the beat, just like in 90% of prince and p-funk songs.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

okay, I hear it now ... you're right.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Philly band, early '80s; they have a lot of songs like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVxEIS1ze9U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaT47Hscdhg&feature=related

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0s1TPJ7l1E&feature=fvw

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-3U8ptemEk

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFeWSWiwJY

Also, if industrial (Wax Trax style) counts, there's lots of stuff, probably -- from KMFDM and that Minsistry album that Adrian Sherwood produced on down. But I don't know if it does.

And lots of disco and rap (and probably funk) groups have incorporated music that sounds like goth, too. But that's another thread.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3MbP1vQUR8

^ this doesn't really count as goth either, but might fit the vibe

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUmqfXN6gos

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUyc1wR-h0

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah Bauhaus def dabbled in this, especially on their B sides/ep tracks and things.

I'm thinking you could, in a pinch, put "Peppermint Pig" by the Cocteau Twins in here. It's at least dance-beaty, if not strictly funky.

There any Kate Bush that's got a funk thing going on?

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

a dece amount of early 4ad stuff has some hints of funkiness

surfin on my face (electricsound), Thursday, 10 September 2009 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Are Love & Rockets considered gothy, or did Peter Murphy take that with him? I've always considered "*** (Jungle Law)" to be kinda funky...

henry s, Thursday, 10 September 2009 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

we've been stretching the definition of goth pretty broadly already in this thread, so L&R are hardly out of place.

51 active users (sarahel), Thursday, 10 September 2009 01:10 (eleven years ago) link

I've always found 'Dig It' by Skinny Puppy extremely funky. See what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFgUV44TTpY

moley, Thursday, 10 September 2009 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

Hey yeah didn't think of them, good one.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 10 September 2009 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

What about Cypress Hill's 'Black Sunday'? That's pretty damn gothic.

moley, Thursday, 10 September 2009 02:33 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah no self respecting goth DJ would spin that at a club though.

Well, then again they play Europe sometimes, so what am I saying.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 10 September 2009 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe noone said this one yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXTZG3FeIhI&feature=channel

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 10 September 2009 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

this whole siouxsie album is pretty funky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeBMHnJqAvM

jaxon, Thursday, 10 September 2009 05:31 (eleven years ago) link

produced by jah wobble
http://www.discogs.com/Joolz-The-Kiss/release/603682

jaxon, Thursday, 10 September 2009 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

and tons of early killing joke is terribly funky

jaxon, Thursday, 10 September 2009 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

I listened to this today, some of it is abrasive but has dance beats.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-717131-1172296607.jpeg

I want more stuff that goes well with the hip-hop and funk on my computer.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Thursday, 10 September 2009 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

Virgin Prunes are a good example, I was listening to them too. I like reggae / dub with "goth" too.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Thursday, 10 September 2009 06:44 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah def go for Bauhaus then.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 10 September 2009 07:01 (eleven years ago) link

Despite all their Crowley/esoteric inclinations, dont know if 23 Skidoo can qualify as "goth": but they knew a thing or two about funk.

Also some Clock DVA.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 10 September 2009 07:11 (eleven years ago) link

Skidoo definitely new a thing or two about goth, even if they did precede it by a couple of years.

ch4rlie fr4m3, Thursday, 10 September 2009 07:59 (eleven years ago) link

The Wolfgang Press surely are worth a mention ?

mark e, Thursday, 10 September 2009 08:37 (eleven years ago) link

fig !?

dig of course

mark e, Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Einstürzende Neubauten - Yu Gung (A. Sherwood mix)
Tones On Tails - War
Anne Clark - Our Darkness
Medium Medium - hungry, so angry

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 10 September 2009 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

Gosh, Wolfgang Press of course.

Mind you, their gothier stuff's closer to Nick Cave.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 10 September 2009 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRDJOGA2zC8&feature=related

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 11 September 2009 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfzXq0tA3c

Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 11 September 2009 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn7P7G2_Nw4

Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 11 September 2009 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

Tones on Tail - "There's Only One"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1HINqDZ2NU

Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 11 September 2009 04:31 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9Z7BySFbY

^ one of the most hilariously bad Alien Sex Fiend songs ever, fast-forward to 3:53 for a funky treat

Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 11 September 2009 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

"Go!" by Tones on Tail would be a better funky example wouldnt it? Still, theres that Bauhaus connection again...

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:04 (eleven years ago) link

What about any Severed Heads? Seems like they could've come close to this.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 11 September 2009 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

not very gothy

surfin on my face (electricsound), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

Pah! They used to be played all the time at clubs I went to.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

The hey nonny no song was, anyway (lol I forget what its called)

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

halo

surfin on my face (electricsound), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:21 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovH46-o0rLw

Add the video and Shriekback become goth enough to count.

Squash weather (Eazy), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

Goth voice/face + High NRG =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCiVXigrjjQ

Squash weather (Eazy), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:26 (eleven years ago) link

Oh ok if we're getting into new wave/disco then that opens up the floor completely (and for creaky old ex-goths like me, that stuff totally does count).

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:50 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno if I'd call Dead or Alive/Visage/Bronski Beat funky though.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2009 05:51 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqhym59ypUI

Alex in NYC, Friday, 11 September 2009 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uB-0D-gV8mY/R9iZuL9z6sI/AAAAAAAAHZo/x_DCDV7f5EQ/s400/dead+or+alive+ep

Oh yes they (we)re

Alex in NYC, Friday, 11 September 2009 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Oh whoops -- I thought you meant not goth. Were Dead or Alive funky? I think so. I mean, Bootsy Collins didn't lose any sleep, but they certainly tried to be.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 11 September 2009 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

COLD... LIFE!

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Friday, 11 September 2009 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeBDntKaIxw

Alex in NYC, Friday, 11 September 2009 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

and tons of early killing joke is terribly funky

Very true, but NOT GOTHY

Alex in NYC, Friday, 11 September 2009 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

psychic tv "ov power"

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Friday, 11 September 2009 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah as already mentioned there's a legion of Wax Trax! stuff begging to be included here.

"So messy!" (HI DERE), Friday, 11 September 2009 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

yep but "everyday (is halloween)" strikes me as the ultimate funky goth track

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Friday, 11 September 2009 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

Oh Alex. I gave up defending bands like the Cocteaus as notgoth years ago, just relent on the KJ thing ;)

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Saturday, 12 September 2009 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

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Alex in NYC, Saturday, 12 September 2009 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

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Alex in NYC, Saturday, 12 September 2009 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

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Alex in NYC, Saturday, 12 September 2009 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

Killing Joke 'Change' = War 'Me And Baby Brother'
Sisters of Mercy 'Floorshow'
The Cure 'Close To Me'
Cabaret Voltaire 'Crackdown'
Killing Joke 'Follow The Leader'
The Cure 'The Walk'
Nitzer Ebb 'Lightning Man'
Nitzer Ebb 'Fun To Be Had'

Doran, Saturday, 12 September 2009 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

Listening to lots of the music Bimble liked on his respective threads, last.fm, and blog, I'm absolutely sure Bimble loved funky beats and we all know he was goth. Those DJ mixes are scheduled to come out before new year. (I even think Cloudbusting has a funky ring to it). Yeah he would have loved this thread

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 12 September 2009 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

What about Psyche "Unveiling The Secret'

Jacob Sanders, Saturday, 12 September 2009 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

re Bush not strictly funky but 'Running Up That Hill' drums do seem to owe a little to 'Trans Europe Express'

unban dictionary (blueski), Saturday, 12 September 2009 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGog1RY4HNU&feature=related

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

Do funk ecer get goth?
now thats difficult..

Zeno, Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Wicked Witch probably got quite gothic after a few rocks.

Doran, Sunday, 13 September 2009 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

what was that psychic tv track where they spliced up canaries singing and made it funky as hell? that one.

messiahwannabe, Saturday, 17 October 2009 10:11 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

pic.twitter.com/J3IFxT2HyP

— the dumpster (@thedumpster4) August 22, 2020

willem, Friday, 11 September 2020 07:25 (one week ago) link

Amazing.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 September 2020 07:30 (one week ago) link

that is cute. and the influence of funk on industrial music is v underappreciated IMO

davey, Friday, 11 September 2020 07:36 (one week ago) link

I've been waiting for someone to redo that video with "Release The Bats"

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 11 September 2020 07:45 (one week ago) link

Wow, I have been to this nightclub.

Specific and Limited Interests (Branwell with an N), Friday, 11 September 2020 07:56 (one week ago) link

love that video so much.
also, re the original question some new additions : Black Strobe.
their 'burn your own church' album : very goth, and very funky.
also, the brilliant, but short lived band, O Children, totally did the goth dance thing.

mark e, Saturday, 12 September 2020 18:20 (one week ago) link

Wow, I have been to this nightclub.

― Specific and Limited Interests (Branwell with an N), Friday, September 11, 2020 12:56 AM (two days ago)

hahahahahah me too!!!

sarahell, Sunday, 13 September 2020 18:56 (one week ago) link

Same. The Cat Club. Some weird memories

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 September 2020 22:19 (one week ago) link


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