I'm on a spree tonight - and I'm massively back into the Cocs. I think Treasure is one of my all time fave albums, but my knowledge of the rest of their stuff doesn't extend much past it, only to "Four Calendar Cafe" (which I realise is to Treasure as Sing when Your Winning is to Life thru a Lens).
So go on - lets speak of how awesomely great Lorelei is.
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 03:54 (twenty years ago) link
One of the great bands of the 80s.
― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 05:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― David Merryweather (DavidM), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link
some time last autumn i had a funny turn :
falling in love with the cocteaus again.
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Seb (Seb), Friday, 12 November 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 12 November 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 12 November 2004 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 12 November 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― iang, Monday, 31 January 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 31 January 2005 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 31 January 2005 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 31 January 2005 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.ambitious-outsiders.com/images/lineup05.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
my heart just broke
― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I have only heard Heaven Or Las Vegas. Wouldn't say classic, because I have to be in the right mood for her *glossolalia*. But it sure is pretty music.
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
There must be UK dates, surely.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
mdma
together
― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 January 2006 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link
As for possible artistic directions, I could imagine a piece driven by Fripp Soundscape and Frisell Loops with electro-acoustic drum work By Pat Mastelloto, some electronically treated harmonized trumept lines by Nils Petter Molvaer, some excentric fretless bass work by Mick Karn and, beautiful piano/synth treatments courtesy of Ryuichi Sakamoto. I could think of may other possible directions, but this is just off the top of my head. All in all I still think she has the potential to surpass even the greatest cocteau twins moments, given the right environment.
― Cliftonb, Friday, 6 January 2006 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 6 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I JUST RIPPED MILK & KISSES TO MY IPOD THEREFORE I RULE OKEETHNCXBYEEY
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link
underrated album, that
― stephen, Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
The last one I bought was Four Calendar Cafe, but I think I heard Milk & Kisses once. Perhaps I should seek it out again.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link
"Violaine" is one of my favorite late-period Cocteau songs -- it stands up to the best of Heaven or Las Vegas, easily
― stephen, Saturday, 31 May 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the one Cocteau Twins album I actually had sex to.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 31 May 2008 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link
intentionally?
― stephen, Saturday, 31 May 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh my god if Cocteaus could ever forgive you
Meanie!
Tell the X Mal Deutschland fans to go fuck it all.
Cocteaus happiness.Quisquose.
I'm gonna sic the vinyl on your ass. I'm trying to peaceful, but...sorry.
EAT THE VINYL
EAT IT
Oh shit
― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link
In a certain celebrity mailout this appeared...
'The reason the Cocteau Twins' comeback last year didn't happen is because even though Robin Guthrie and Liz Fraser had put their differences to the side (clue - £££££) Liz insisted that her partner be the drummer on the tour. Fine.
All was going well until Robin got pissed, looked through the tour expenses and saw that Liz's partner was getting paid a bit more than the other hired hands. He went batshit mental, rang up Liz and told her that this was outrageous and that he shouldn't even be getting paid AT ALL as Liz was making money and so her partner "didn't need to be paid".
Liz basically said (in indecipherable made-up language no doubt) she couldn't take this and if Robin was kicking off even before the tour started, it could only get worse. So she walked and that was it - reunion over. She apparently walked away from "millions".
― If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate (aldo), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Good for her.
― Masonic Boom, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I can understand being annoyed that he's making MORE than others but not getting paid AT ALL? Fuck that.
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Not getting paid at all, says an anonymous secondhand source.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah there's an obvious grain of salt there but still.
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Give 'em a couple more years when they need to pay their mortgages, they'll come around.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually Guthrie's reaction. He always came across as socially retarded.
― Turangalila, Friday, 24 July 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
A story on Ms. Fraser in the Guardian the other day:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/26/cocteau-twins-elizabeth-fraser-interview
And we do all grow older:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/11/26/1259231936986/Elizabeth-Fraser-Cocteau--001.jpg
Looks v. elegant!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
She's been offered sums "beyond your wildest dreams" to collaborate with other artists – "the weirdest one was Linkin Park"
The hell.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
The new song sadly sounds too much like Gotan Project but her voice is still awesome.
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
morrisp, you gotta check out the Love's Easy Tears EP. Their single best release for me, has kind of a 60s-pop-beamed-through-interstellar-space vibe
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link
Thanks – just listened, and liked it a lot (perfect description, too!)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link
I found this in a cutout bin of unsold Record Store Day stuff - Sun's Signature (Frasier and Damon Reece)
HOLY SHIT THIS IS GREAT why didn't anyone freak out about this
feels like a mix of Cocteau's and Portishead Third
https://sunssignature.bandcamp.com/album/suns-signature
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:21 (nine months ago) link
waht
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:40 (nine months ago) link
I thought this already made the rounds! Yeah it's fine stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:41 (nine months ago) link
I must have missed it, just saw the cover in the bins and googled it, was only $8 so I figured why not, super blown away by how great this is, beautiful tracks, feels a piece with CT but has its own identity
her voice has held up remarkably!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link
plus Steve Hackett!!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 17:00 (nine months ago) link
Woah. Thanks for info. Had no idea.
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 20:55 (nine months ago) link
Happy 60th to Liz!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:59 (seven months ago) link
Yesterday in the northern suburbs of Chicago there was a blue minivan with Louisiana plates and a bumper sticker that said "STOP HONKING I'm trying to figure out what Cocteau Twins are saying" over the Heaven or Las Vegas cover art.
It's sold out
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/pI7Yi4b.jpgJohn Bonham is all over this album huh
― calstars, Saturday, 27 January 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link
Yessir.
"1984’s Treasure was a landmark album for the Cocteaus that saw improvements in both their songwriting and Guthrie’s production—it also marked the debut of their multi-instrumentalist Simon Raymonde. They worked in some new gear, including an E-mu Emulator sampler and Yamaha DX-7 for bell sounds, but they stuck with their E-mu Drumulator with an important upgrade.
The change? Guthrie swapped out the original eproms for Digidrums’ Rock Drums chips, which featured samples of John Bonham from “When The Levee Breaks.” It gives the backing tracks a distinctive sampled edge but with a Drumulator feel.
In the magazine One-Two Testing, Guthrie explained how he used the Drumulator on the record. “We start with a very basic guide drum on the Drumulator. I’ve tried all the drum machines and that’s the most straightforward machine to work with. Examples? Well, supposing you wanted to erase a particular drum from a song. On some machines that would take you ages. With the Drumulator it’s straightforward. Tuning of the drums on it would be helpful, I suppose, but you could always varispeed them once they were on tape. I’ve got some of the new chips for our Drumulator—the Rock chips sound great. I’ll stick with that machine.”
― MaresNest, Saturday, 27 January 2024 22:56 (two months ago) link
Also Shout by Tears For Fears
twins becoming one of my fav bands
― Swen, Sunday, 28 January 2024 17:24 (two months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/QFFJGor.pngThe first 20 seconds of this sound like music for a secret super Mario brothers underworld level
― calstars, Sunday, 28 January 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
https://thequietus.com/articles/33528-cocteau-twins-head-over-heels-anniversary
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:29 (two months ago) link
never picked up on either of those drum samples, good excuse to play treasure at a very loud volume when I clock out.
― brimstead, Monday, 29 January 2024 21:07 (two months ago) link
That Record Got Me High - Cocteau Twins 'Treasure' with Miki Berenyi
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:37 (one month ago) link
Ugh, that Quietus review gets 721 words in before it mentions the band or the album
― enochroot, Thursday, 1 February 2024 17:20 (one month ago) link
Thanks, john
― irerisered, Thursday, 1 February 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link
rock out with your clock out
― blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 1 February 2024 20:58 (one month ago) link