Luke Haines: 21st Century Man/Achtung Mutha

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Celebrated Britpop pioneer Luke Haines is due to release his latest solo album '21st Century Man' later this year.

As lead singer with The Auteurs, Luke Haines helped craft the template for Britpop. Emerging from a formative London music scene Haines led the way with his blend of 60s pop, glam and more with a uniquely British outlook.

Nominated for the Mercury Music Prize, The Auteurs seemed destined for chart success - yet cruelly, this never came. After the band split Luke Haines went on to form Black Box Recorder, who main claim to fame is acting as the launching pad for Sophie Ellis-Bextor.

Since then, Haines has lain low. Though lost to British music he announced his return earlier this year with the publication of his memoirs. A scabrous assault on British music in the mid 90s, the book sparked much media debate.

With his profile now higher than it has been for almost a decade, Luke Haines has decided to put his music where his mouth is. After slating Pulp, Blur, Oasis and more in his book the songwriter has a lot to live up too...

Not much has been heard of Luke Haines new album '21st Century Man' which is due to be released on November 2nd. Track titles mooted for the record include 'Peter Hammill', 'Klaus Kinski', 'Our Man in Buenos Aires' and 'Suburban Mourning'.

The album is due to be released on CD and download, as well as a limited edition digi-pack complete with a nine-track bonus album, 'Achtung Mutha'.

Luke Haines is set to release his new album '21st Century Man' on November 2nd. The singer has confirmed the following tour dates"

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Listening to Now I'm a Cowboy. As good as ever. "The Upper Classes" foreva.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

2009 and with the release of 21st Century Man, Luke Haines has finally cemented his place as one of the greatest English contemporary songwriters. He may be equally at home writing about teenage sex, terrorism, pop/film stars, child murder or broken love affairs but he’s excelled himself on this, his fifteenth album as a principal songwriter. Essentially an album about “wilful exiles” (of which, Haines is surely one, tracks like Peter Hammill (“Gotta get myself together/Just like Peter Hammill”) and Klaus Kinski (“went back to Germany after the war”) indicate a rare warmth for their subject matter whereas Suburban Mourning is surely the best song Black Box Recorder never recorded. How can you not love an artist who one minute sounds like John Lydon on Wot A Rotter and the next has you thinking you’ve turned up in an episode of The Sweeney on Our Man In Buenos Aires, a song, no doubt, about Nazis on the run? (Incidentally, Haines recently told a journalist he had moved to Buenos Aires only for one paper to immediately report his emigration as fact.) And how can you not love an artist that comes up with a title like Russian Futurists Black Out The Sun as if it is the most normal thing in the world? The album’s title track - clever, poignant, funny and sad – is set to go down as Haines’ swansong as well as one of the finest songs of this or any other year. “Suzy Lamplugh disappeared/David Bowie lost if for years/Died a death in the slap-bass phase/Everybody else died of Aids” intones Haines in apocalyptic mantra, before concluding that “I was all over the ‘90s/I was all over in the ‘90s” and “I’m gonna die in the 21st Century ‘cos I’m a 21st Century Man.”

Luke Haines releases 21st Century Man as a limited edition digi-

Sorry for the spread of posts. I never know where this info is going to pop up.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

Since then, Haines has lain low. Though lost to British music he announced his return earlier this year

Isn't this his 5th solo album this decade? lol press releases

After the band split Luke Haines went on to form Black Box Recorder, who main claim to fame is acting as the launching pad for Sophie Ellis-Bextor.

Really?

someone who is ranked fairly highly in an army of poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think that's true. I have no recollection of her involvement.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

They just misspelled theaudience.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I liked "Off My Rocker At The Art School Bop" from a few years ago, was meaning to check this guy out

depressed is a hugoholic (sciolism), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Must be confusing Sophie EB with Sarah Nixey

Duke, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

A Luke Haines song about Peter Hammill? The word "parasite" comes to mind. I cannot stand Haines or his music, he is far too sneering, pompous and pleased with himself for my liking, plus his music has an emotional distance and coldness to it that I find very unpleasant indeed.

anagram, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

They just misspelled theaudience.

So did theaudience...

the visible spectrum is rainbows (snoball), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's leeching off the talents of Klaus Kinski and men in Buenos Aires too - ban this emotionally distant coldness imo

Women Respond To Bassong (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

HI DERE HUGO

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zappi, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

His Auteurs albums are full of great tunes, and his solo stuff has been pretty dependable up to this point. I wish he'd lay off the heavily referential stuff and start writing stuff like "New French Girlfriend" again, but I guess your mind wanders in your 40s.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

despite being produced by richard x i didnt like off the rocker much, esp not compared to as his 2001 (?) stk and solo albums - those two albums pretty much predicted the whole xenomania thing. looking forward to hearing this and seeing him live, though part of me would rather he focus on the 2nd part of his memoirs

he needs to sack whoever writes his pr. horrible combination of typical over-excited bullshitting and solemn 'this man is a serious genius' rot

NI, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 19:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

How IS his memoir? Also, someone wrote a fictional novel about him this year. I think I'll pass, but it's strange to me he's been a source of inspiration for others.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 20:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's leeching off the talents of Klaus Kinski and men in Buenos Aires too - ban this emotionally distant coldness imo

Is that a response to my post? If so, sorry but I have no idea what you are getting at or what your problem was with it.

anagram, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 20:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

"parasite" just seems like a really weird choice of word considering we're talking about a song named after someone who probably couldn't care less, appearing on an album which will probably sell about 15 copies

my curvy girlfriend, who is Columbian, turned to me and said: (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

It was a deliberately chosen word. Haines isn't fit to carry Hammill's guitars and has no business writing about him.

anagram, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

You ever hear his Auteurs stuff, anagram? I really think the first two LPs are undeniable, even if you have no affection for his solo LPs.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

his music has an emotional distance and coldness to it that I find very unpleasant indeed.

I find that the phrase "very unpleasant indeed" has an emotional distance and coldness to it (esp. the "indeed"). Just sayin.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

xxp maybe if you write to him outlining your concerns there'll still be time to have the song removed from the album

my curvy girlfriend, who is Columbian, turned to me and said: (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Richard X only produced the single version of Off My Rocker, I think.

Agree about some of the PR stuff (I'm assuming that first chunk of text is some clueless website), the Haines website seems to be run by some slavish cultist who shut down the forum because some people politely pointed out his last album had some shit on it, which might explain it.

anagram is right though, Haines should stick to writing songs about the non-Glitter members of the Glitter Band, it's more his level

Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also don't appreciate Mencap's username leeching off my Colombian wife; he is not fit to carry her poncho

Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

I love this guy, but he is beyond obscure in America. Nothing even approaching a hit. Too bad because he has a gift for catchy melodies. Fighting In The City from the last one was stuck in my head for about a month.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

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Mark G, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aha! found the culprit

idk whether or not we need Luke Haines to make a comeback being as we now have the Bob Mills-lookin’ boy from The Indelicates instead, but whatever, he releases his new album, “21st Century Man”, at the arse-end of 2009. Now let’s see what Clash’s Robin Murray has to say about the man’s career:

Nominated for the Mercury Music Prize, The Auteurs seemed destined for chart success – yet cruelly, this never came. After the band split Luke Haines went on to form Black Box Recorder, who main claim to fame is acting as the launching pad for Sophie Ellis-Bextor.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

DP's insistence that the Indelicates are good continues to baffle me.

Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

But even in death, he clowns below-average music writers on Ilx, sniff

Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

How IS his memoir?

good fun. Obviously somewhat self-serving and self-mythologising, but he is not afraid to paint himself in an unsavoury light.

Also, someone wrote a fictional novel about him this year.

and what is this?

He also appears as a kind of Virgil to the main character's Dante in Phonogram

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 15:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's so sad that he always has to saddle himself to his supposed nemesis - the britpop brand - in order to get some press. Stuf like "After slating Pulp, Blur, Oasis and more in his book the songwriter has a lot to live up too..." is just pathetic. As others have pointed out this guy used to be a great songwriter. Maybe that didn't last forever, but did his fade-out have to be so totally pathetic?

everything, Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

RE: the fictional book (a review I ripped from Amazon UK)

Louise Wener recently wrote when reviewing the Haines book "Bad Vibes" that Haines songs were not about anything and that she would rather listen to Wonderwall because at least that had a good tune. Nonsense. Wener sang in the band Sleeper with songs marketed at spotty adolescents and concerned herself with the sexual fumblings of 15 year olds. Long after her own cherry was obliterated of course. Her subject matter was not however a crime, but stating that Haines songs are meaningless certainly is. Haines has written autobiographically, historically, hostalgically and he has also over the years built up an array of character vignettes. He is probably the best English singer / songwriter that has ever lived and I am sure he will agree with that.

This is a sentiment that the author of "Truth And Lies In Murder Park" certainly shares. I am not familiar with Tim Mitchell's other work but he has written about Tom Verlaine and John Cale so Luke Haines is certainly in good company. The blurb on this book describes it as genre breaking and it just that, it is also incredibly odd, darkly amusing and entertaining. It is for want of a better description a biographical novel.

The novel concerns a character referred to as the "writer" who is invited to Mr. Haines country estate to write about him and his new found fortune. Haines is like Lord Summerisle from the Wicker Man and it soon becomes apparent that "the writer" is a bit like Sergant Howie from the same film, carefully selected and lured into a scenario of which he will be the main player.

At the Haines mansion, behind the trees, an array of his classic songs are played out by the actors for the benefit of the writer, possibly a riposte to the journalists who have never really understood Mr. Haines work. We are taken on a journey through all of Haines's albums. When "the writer" has finished his scribblings at the end of each day of his stay at Haines's estate we are introduced to the thoughts of "the editor", who has a deeper interest in the world of Luke Haines, and "the editors" role in the scheme of things soon falls into place.

What takes place is that Haines is actually making a film and "the writer" is his subject and possibly also his victim, the film is in the style of "Seance On A Wet Afternoon" by Bryan Forbes, of which a lot of information is shared. Other mentions to "10 Rillington Place" and "A Matter Of Life And Death".

At times the scenarios can be a little repetitive but overall the book is very entertaining and original. The style is similar to that of cult writer B.S. Johnson, author of "Christie Malry's Own Double Entry".

If you are expecting to read another "Bad Vibes" forget it, but if you want to be surprised at how the dull and played out Biography can be turned into a a dark comedy, buy this book now. Or if you're like Louise Wener just go back to listening to "Wonderwall".

I don't feel well, so I don't feel like looking further.

re: the Britpop stuff. His music really doesn't reflect it. It's all got to do with the book he wrote, which I admittedly didn't read. It's kind of strange he's stuck in the past, but his music has never reflected otherwise. I enjoy him having fun with the Glitter Band and other glam types. I think it's funny when it works. The music, IMO, has been pretty good up to this point. I definitely think he hasn't hit the highs of his Auteurs stuff, though.

teflon monkey, Thursday, 27 August 2009 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

He is probably the best English singer / songwriter that has ever lived and I am sure he will agree with that.

Stopped reading after that.

Mark G, Thursday, 27 August 2009 16:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Impressed that you ploughed on through the reviewer's brave and relevant handling of the subject of Louise Wener's virginity to make it that far

my curvy girlfriend, who is Columbian, turned to me and said: (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

(book kind of sounds like a rejected 33 1/3 pitch going on that description but I might be biased due to how douchey the writer sounds)

my curvy girlfriend, who is Columbian, turned to me and said: (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Maybe that didn't last forever, but did his fade-out have to be so totally pathetic?

what are you talking about? Off My Rocker At The Art School Bop, Leeds United, Bad Education = great songs.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 28 August 2009 11:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Impressed that you ploughed on through the reviewer's brave and relevant handling of the subject of Louise Wener's virginity to make it that far

― my curvy girlfriend, who is Columbian, turned to me and said: (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:18 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've seen enough crap written about L.Wener to filter it out, but the way OTTpraise for L.Haines (although to be fair, I know about 2 tracks of his) suggests we have a condescending fanboy of a different hue.

(With supporters like that, who needs crits?)

Mark G, Friday, 28 August 2009 12:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Off My Rocker At The Art School Bop, Leeds United, Bad Education = great songs.

I don't agree. The music is okay if you like Britpop, but his voice is weak as piss and the lyrics are very poor Denim rip-offs.

everything, Friday, 28 August 2009 20:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.myspace.com/lukehaines

Two new songs streaming.

teflon monkey, Saturday, 3 October 2009 16:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

20th century man would be good if it were about half the length it is...

like Peter Hammil but it might just be because of the title

sexiled on main street (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 3 October 2009 17:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like em. All the same, the constant pop culture reference thing is getting a bit tired. He knew how to write a compelling narrative on his first few Auteurs albums, so I wonder why he's stuck in this postmodern art critic phase.

teflon monkey, Saturday, 3 October 2009 19:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Anyone hear this yet? I sure haven't. Apparently it came out nearly a month ago. Poor Luke.

teflon monkey, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's much better than the last one. "Klaus Kinski" and "Love Letter To London" are really lovely songs. The title track is a little off-putting though. Lyrically, it's a combination of a kind of a "We Didn't Start The Fire" list of events with a lot of Haines' self-pity about not making it (which I guess is just part of his persona now). Overall, though, I like this one a lot. Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only living American that owns nearly everything Mr. Haines has ever done.

purrington, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 20:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

How about the Achtung Mutha disc? I haven't read anything about it outside of it being "experimental."

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 21:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

I saw him in Bristol the weekend before last in front of a less than impressively sized audience - was fun tho, he did fanboy-pleasing stuff like 'Showgirl' and 'Baader Meinhof' (the song)

19349 things paedophiles like to complain about (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 23:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've only heard the 21th Century Man disc, and it's more than great. There are no "Off My Rocker..." and "Leeds United" calibre hits here, but the album is more consistent than the last one. "English Southern Man" is a particularly great song.

zeus, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 10:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I love this!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 24 December 2009 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/12458-luke-haines-rock-and-roll-animals-new-album-borderline

Fresh from uncovering the British Isles' alternative history with The North Sea Scrolls last year, former Auteurs and Black Box Recorder man and all-round polymath Luke Haines has announced that he'll be releasing a new album, Rock And Roll Animals on July 29 via Cherry Red.

Rather than trying to explain the album, which contains, among other things, the Angel Of The North and narration from Julia Davis by way of Sham 69 and rockabilly, ourselves, we'll leave it to Haines, who says of the album: "Rock N Roll Animals is a psychedelic story for grown ups (and children). Jimmy Pursey – is a frisky fox; Nick Lowe – a solid badger and Gene Vincent – a cat who's seen a bit more of life than most of us. Three furry freaks. Three Rock n Roll animals. The fable of our four-pawed shamen is narrated by the good folk of Magic Town. This is a story of righteous rock n roll and how our three rock n roll animal friends, when not frolicking in the undergrowth, do battle with their most unrighteous nemesis – a fuck ugly bird (from Tyneside) made of steel and wire called The Angel Of The North.

"So friends, free your minds, turn off your modern scrying screens and turn on your 21st century imaginations. Let us follow the townsfolk into the woods where the rock n roll animals are freaking out and running wild. But remember one thing: Nature is an evil mother."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FL8pztCWAPA

http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/12458/Luke_Haines_-_Rock_N_Roll_Animals_1370427343_crop_550x550.jpg

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:06 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UmoImrp2Hg

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 15:22 (five years ago) Permalink

^The new single.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 15:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I think this top comment might've ruined him for me:

Stewie Griffin, go home, you're drunk

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 14:00 (five years ago) Permalink

British Nuclear Bunkers is a waste of time. It's Luke noodling on some synths. It seems like music critics have tried to catch up to his self-appointed legacy and started giving his albums stellar reviews. His latest got a 9/10 in Uncut.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 24 September 2016 14:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Luke's solo stuff didn't start out strong

I disagree here - I think 'The Oliver Twist Manifesto' is fantastic, and, out of his solo work, is only bettered by 'Nine and a Half Psychedelic Meditations'. I realise I may be in a small group on this one though ...

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:50 (two years ago) Permalink

He's got some great solo songs. Fighting In The City Tonight is as catchy as anything he's ever written.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:16 (two years ago) Permalink

Baader Meinhof is his best solo album. In fact, it might be the best thing he's ever done.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:26 (two years ago) Permalink

Just realize I contradicted myself, but I was considering "The Oliver Twist Manifesto" his first official solo album. I think it's a bit cheesy, honestly, perhaps intentionally (?); the album art always shocked me...

Baader Meinhof is unofficially a solo record. Of course, if you believe him, The Auteurs were a solo project as well. I'm not apt to believe that considering he's never written anything that really sounds like an Auteurs song since striking out on his own.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 September 2016 15:08 (two years ago) Permalink

One listen through and I'm about as underwhelmed as I expected given the single. The now-standard mix of half-baked pastiches, 'mystical' lyrics and 70s childhood references, with a few silly voices thrown in.

He's been churning the albums out recently (and I can't begrudge the man for making a living), but it does seem like the quality control has slipped.

On the plus side, this thread title inspired me to listen to 21st Century Man for the first time in ages, and it's way better than I remembered!

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 7 October 2016 12:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Not heard the new album yet, but the fear is that his output will be churned out like Julian Cope's these days, recorded entirely solo at home on the cheap with no real drums or engineering skills. Works fine for a known home recording wiz like Martin Newell, but not sure about Haines.

PaulTMA, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:36 (two years ago) Permalink

He doesn't really write songs anymore. It also feels like some of these songs come dangerously close to other Haines solo songs, though they're not coming to me on my first listen. It's all a bit of a blur. I miss the Luke that wrote New Wave and Now I'm a Cowboy. :(

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:42 (two years ago) Permalink

Also, there's this pretty annoying synth thing going on in every song. Like, it sounds the same on every song. Not sure what synth he's using, but you'll know it when you hear it.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:52 (two years ago) Permalink

On the plus side, this thread title inspired me to listen to 21st Century Man for the first time in ages, and it's way better than I remembered!

Doing the same thing.

You're right.

"Petter Hammil" rocks.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:37 (two years ago) Permalink

The preset programmed drums on the new album are just lazy and terrible sounding. Anyone could have have done a better job making all of them sound better in an hour or so

PaulTMA, Sunday, 9 October 2016 12:51 (two years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/lukehaines_news/status/785563009888518145

Maybe I should Tweet him about his shitty preset programmed drums. Setting him off looks fun.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm torn because I do believe the above but found that exchange hilarious and Drowned In Sound is just a bunch of ex-ITV Teletext spazmos who love Comfort In Sound by Feeder

The album could do with some better drum programming though

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:27 (two years ago) Permalink

great Haines bootleg from the 21 C Man tour http://www.mediafire.com/file/x3bq2d0x9waxbm0/Luke_Haines_-_2009-10-05_-_The_Captain%27s_Rest%2C_Glasgow.zip

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:36 (two years ago) Permalink

I still have a lot of time for The Oliver Twist Manifesto: add some of the best bits from the contemporaneous Christi Malry soundtrack and it would be a killer.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 00:33 (two years ago) Permalink

I have to admit the line "They're having sex to the 'Kids in America" is a classic.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 13:54 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Baader Meinhof really is an incredible album, isn't it? Think its his crowning achievement, personally, more so than the Auteurs album. Experimental, yet extremely accessible; killer riffs, interesting percussion and string arrangements, and a unifying theme that doesn't over-extend itself. I love it every time I listen to it, and it sounds as fresh today as it did when it came out.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:53 (one year ago) Permalink

yes. yes yes yes.

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:16 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 23:14 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes so good.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:11 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Has anyone heard this one yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usxwY6jfi9Y

Can't seem to find it anywhere.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Wasn't that a freebie on the cover of 'Electronic Sound' magazine? Don't think it's getting a proper release.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes. Haven't managed to find the freebie available for purchase *used* or download anywhere. I mean based on that song I probably don't need to hear it, but I'm always curious.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:55 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New album is a 'concept album' about horny miniatures that sniff glue or something.

It kind of sounds like the animals album.

Not a patch on an Auteurs, BBR or the Baader Meinhof album, unfortunately.

I'm afraid the man's lost it.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:15 (five months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqRi5AFimI

I have this sense of him just laying down his famous whisper vocals for 12 or 13 tracks without any backing and then just writing a bunch of generic music when he wants to throw out a new album. The new songs never have any personality.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:16 (five months ago) Permalink

This is probably the worst album he’s put his name to. Listening to it is an excruciating experience for me. Seems most music journalists still seem to give him the benefit of the doubt and rate his new ones well, but I promise you this is one truly hideous album.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Gave it a quick listen. Same old really. Doesn't strike me as any worse than the usual fare. I definitely preferred it when he was less prolific but there were albums of the standard of Off My Rocker and 21st Century Man to look forward to.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:49 (five months ago) Permalink

It sounds like a watered down version of Rock and Roll animals, but sickeningly cynical and vulgar, with little thought for actual songwriting. I miss the Luke that wrote an album of songs rather than a single concept buoyed by featureless music.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:54 (five months ago) Permalink

He said in an interview when Smash The System came out something about his approach to songwriting these days where he said he kind of dials it in, with it being his job. Tried to find it there for the exact words, but couldn't get it on google.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 12 May 2018 21:03 (five months ago) Permalink

This is probably the worst album he’s put his name to.

Hoped this was hyperbole ... sadly not :(

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:49 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I tend to blow with the wind with musicians I like, which isn't to my credit, but I really couldn't force myself to care enough to finish this album after two tries. It's only 29 minutes long, too! I think it's the most tedious thing he's done if you don't count British Nuclear Bunkers, which isn't really comparable.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 14:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the electronic album he did that was given away with that magazine? Worth hearing at all?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 14:11 (five months ago) Permalink

I still stand by my opinion Baader Meinhof is one of the greatest albums of the '90s (as are the first two Auteurs LPs).

This is the only track from 'Freqs' I've heard/found anywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usxwY6jfi9Y

An album of that would not be my cup of tea.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 14:12 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Did anyone see what led Luke to delete his twitter? Apparently he got into a flame war with some writer named Mark Beaumont. Everything Luke said is deleted and I’m trying to piece it together.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 02:59 (four months ago) Permalink

Seems Beaumont had a major axe to grind and wrote a terrible review of a BBR box set that was just an attack on Luke. Haines tries to one-up him and posts even nastier shit.

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=67140.0

It’s all here.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 03:04 (four months ago) Permalink

That review isn't really a personal attack on Haines though, it mostly criticizes the music.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 4 June 2018 07:34 (four months ago) Permalink

“Being Luke Haines sucks” is quite an opener.

I don’t feel any sympathy for Luke, mind you. His Twitter feed is one of the saddest around these days.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 11:46 (four months ago) Permalink

It’s a poor review and a lot of it is spent attacking Luke’s success. If you want to give a fair three star review, start with Luke’s latest solo dud. BBR didn’t deserve a hatchet job.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 11:47 (four months ago) Permalink

Beaumont wouldn’t have written such a vitriolic review if he wasn’t so moneumentally butthurt over Haines’ anti-NME remarks in the pub wake of its closure

PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:25 (four months ago) Permalink

He's a pretty easy target, though. Dude has reacted similarly to other negative reviews. I don't think he should be as opinionated as he is if he can't handle a little heat in his direction. That Beaumont review is complete shit (BBR were a great act, and the review is full of ad hominem bs including remarks about album sales), but I could Luke writing something equally as petty and vindictive. His Twitter had also devolved into a suffocatingly negative and sad little outpost on the internet. If something's acclaimed or popular, Luke hates it and he's here to tell you why!

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:33 (four months ago) Permalink

I agree with every single word of that Mark Beaumont review.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:45 (four months ago) Permalink

excuse me, i’m just savouring the idea of ‘attacking luke’s success’

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:51 (four months ago) Permalink

Would 'limited success' have sufficed?

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:51 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah, what success? As far as I'm concerned, he was more famous for going ballistic at artists that had (and deserved) more success than him, music journalists and sometimes members of his own band. It certainly had dick-all to do with his music, which sold to next to nobody even when his career was at its peak. Beaumont is right - those that have enabled Haines to have a career in music have given him far more time and opportunities that deserves, the guy is known for having a bit of an attitude problem, and it's 2018 and no fucker is going to buy this box set.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:55 (four months ago) Permalink

*that=than he.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:56 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't see what any of that has to do with the music Black Box Recorder made.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:37 (four months ago) Permalink

I was responding to your idea that the review was an "attack" on "Luke's success" - of course Beaumont also wrote about the music, and he was also OTM about that - in fact "bloodless Bontempi Tindersticks" couldn't be more accurate.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Haines was about the only thing I like about Twitter. I always felt there was something a bit pantomime about his ultra-elitist schtick, and yet it gets taken ultra-seriously.

PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:14 (four months ago) Permalink

I take it at face value, as someone Luke blocked for making a rather innocuous comment. He seems terribly thin skinned.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:41 (four months ago) Permalink


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