Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

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it's using a solid-state drive now too, correct?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link

I think sic is just pointing out 'no click wheel/eyes free operation'

One plus I can think of for using a high capacity touch though is you could listen to your stuff with the can opener app which is really lovely.

Jon not Jon, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link

128 gigs is an improvement...two wrinkles... 1) the cost is too high. But I guess they can get away with it. 2) The apple OS and apps will take up a big chunk of those 128 gigs.

skip, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

128 GB micro SD cards only cost 70 bucks now, shove that in any old/cheap phone (and leave out the SIM card) and you've pretty much got an iPod Touch right there.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

Good... so I'm not just making it up that it's too expensive. It's $200 extra to move from the 16GB to 128GB.

skip, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

what is the battery life of an iPod touch like? how long can you run it for without charging?

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

i'm starting to suspect that the main behavior that gives me away as an old person is how i listen to podcasts (downloading them via iTunes and transferring them to my iPod classic, as i always have).

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

I don't like connected listening tbh. Listening to music files on a device which is itself not connected to anything creates greater listening focus for me. When I listen on spotify or whatever I'm too preoccupied with the infinity of other things I can jump to

Jon not Jon, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

ha my friend & downstairs neighbor is quoted at length in that (very good) piece

Jon not Jon, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

Music metadata *is* incredibly hard but it's ridiculous that iTunes is still so atrocious at it after 16 years of trying.

stet, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link

I think sic is just pointing out 'no click wheel/eyes free operation'

yep

2) The apple OS and apps will take up a big chunk of those 128 gigs.

yep

what is the battery life of an iPod touch like? how long can you run it for without charging?

assuming it's the same as a phone, since it's just a phone that doesn't make calls, about four hours these days

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 06:29 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I bought my 160 GB Classic for under $300. Nice to know there is that option now, but boy, what a ripoff.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

I think you can still get new 160GB Classics on Ebay for less than that 128GB iPod touch.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BkUG-vnUEA

Paul, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

I've had an iPod touch for a while now (5th gen, 32gb) and tbh I've been pretty satisfied with it. I don't use it as much now since I have an iPhone, but I did for a couple years. The battery life is pretty good imo especially if you only use it to play music, if you are browsing the web and shit and using the screen a lot it will obviously use up more battery. I need to charge my iPhone more because I am of course using it for all the non-music features too. since iPod doesn't have cellular data I didn't really use the web or apps that much, unless I was at home. It also charges super fast, like it gets to 100% in like less than a half hour ime

marcos, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link

I know it has its fans by th click wheel blows ime, I much prefer the touch screen. We have an iPod classic too and I hate it, so tedious to use

marcos, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

Why would people pay $399 for a 128GB Ipod when they can get a 128GB Fiio X1 for one third of the price?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link

Doesn't that thing have a 5000-song limit?

Siegbran, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 08:14 (eight years ago) link

They've fixed that problem about 6 months ago with new firmware. I've got an X1, I'd definitely recomend it.

DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link

No, the problem hasn't been yet fixed. You can have as many songs as you want on the memory card, and you can browse through them all via folder view, that's not a problem... But if you want to browse them by category (album/artist/genre/etc), at the moment the X1 can't index more than 5800 songs. For me, it's not a problem because I only have FLACs on the player, so I won't be going over 5800 limit, and I prefer the folder view anyway. (The latest firmware added a neat optional feature called "play through folders", where the player players jumps to the next folder after the previous one has been played through... So, for example, if I have 4 Bach albums in the "classical" folder, they'll play in a row without having to change.)

Fiio has promised that a new firmware that'll solve the 5800 limit problem will be released this month, though. They already solved it for the X3, so I'm hoping they'll keep their promise. In general they are pretty good at taking in customer feedback and tailoring their firmware updates based on what people want.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link

"without having to change albums"

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 12:14 (eight years ago) link

Aaaah, I only ever browse by folder so it's not a problem I've encountered! *hangs head in shame*

DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

I'll pay a premium to have a (presumably) seamless link between iTunes and my iPod. $400 for a device with less HD space and less direct functionality than an 8-year-old iPod Classic is crazy though.

skip, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

Everyone is caught in this weird gap because Toshiba stopped making those tiny hard drives, and flash memory prices haven't caught up yet. Give it a year or two though, and 256 GB players will be everywhere.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

But the Classic hardware isn't otherwise coming back, sadly.

We were trying to listen to a podcast in the car on my gf's iPhone this weekend, and trying to advance to a specific spot in the recording was an exercise in complete futility. Constantly reminded of reasons why I cling tenaciously to my slowly dying Classic.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

256 GB thumb drives can be found for $75 - I just bought a microscopic 64 GB one ($26) that practically disappears in the dashboard.

I doubt there's much interest from manufacturers in the larger sizes of portable music player, its a small market.

My dream audio player would be a small screen/ long battery life / good 'phone preamp player like the old Cowon iAudios, dispensing with onboard memory but instead supporting the high capacity microSD cards. They could sell it with a throwaway 1-2 GB microSD, and users could upgrade to 128 GB (or higher) as budget permits.

Planned adolescence (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

i <3 my Cowon

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow, that Fiio X1 mentioned above is almost perfect. Good sound chip, microSD support up to 128 GB. The only place it falls down is the battery life (12 h), but one could always bring a $10 "lipstick" battery around to triple the playtime.

Planned adolescence (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

I have a used X5, to my mind even better: dual micro sd slots for a max cap of 256gb. And you can stick an otg sd adapter into the micro usb slot if you feel you have to have a THIRD 128gb card in the mix.

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link

However, I just keep coming back to my rockboxed Sansa Clips (micro sd memory) which are so light they don't even unplug from the headphones if I drop them

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

trying to advance to a specific spot in the recording was an exercise in complete futility.
It's easy once you know how - while you're moving the position in the progress bar, move your finger *down* and you'll be able to finetune the exact position.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link

Not sure where to post this as it's only tangentially related to going digital, but I cannot believe the Columbia House Record Club just now filed for bankruptcy. I just assumed those clubs went out of business a decade ago...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/08/12/columbia_house_bankrupt_mail_order_cd_club_s_owner_finally_going_out_of.html

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 13 August 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Neil Young can finally live in a van and drive around solving mysteries without sacrificing even a bit of fidelity

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 August 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

how this didn't happen before is puzzling, but I have finally hit the point in my music collection where I have multiple instances of separate artists sharing the same name/band name. what do people generally do about this?

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 14 September 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

I either put their location or decade in the artist field for the one I listen to less often. e.g. The Charlatans UK I simply have as The Charlatans while the American psych band is labeled The Charlatans [60s].

skip, Monday, 14 September 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

Anyone know of a tool that will scan your mp3s for covers lower than a given res, I.e. all covers under 200x200?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link

a brute-force way would be to extract all cover art to a single directory (jriver can do this) then sort by size or res. unwieldy, but

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 01:18 (seven years ago) link

Anyone know of a tool that will scan your mp3s for covers lower than a given res, I.e. all covers under 200x200?

If you're on OS X, this script will do it: http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=sortbyartworksize

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 07:35 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

So I'm moving to Android but I'm pretty addicted to my iTunes star ratings and playlists / smart playlists.

You can't actually use Apple Music on Android to sync mp3s. I think I want to avoid depending on having my library in iCloud.

iSyncr looks plausible but Rocket Player is kinda ...

Help? I'm afraid.

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

I'm very happy using plex these days for my digital collection (most everything new these days is added in apple music though, but for my 'legacy' file collection, and for video files, plex works great; good interface, app that runs on appletv now, etc)

akm, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

iSyncr is great (one of the few that isn't painfully slow with large libraries), you don't specifically need Rocket Player, it also works with any other player.

Plex is cool but extremely slow with sync and you can't play synced songs with other players.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link

Plex looks nice, but for some reason it doesn't stream lossless files, only MP3s. FLACs and other lossless files are transcoded into MP3s. So I'm still using Subsonic, which doesn't transcode unless you want it to.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:12 (seven years ago) link

I didn't even realize that; hopefully they'll fix that at some point but it's no dealbreaker for me. but, I'll look into subsonic as well

akm, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

Plex does stream lossless audio it seems.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

That thread you posted only has people talking about Flex transcoding FLACs to MP3. I have Flex on the computer, and I've tried to stream FLACs to my receiver and Bluray player, but it always transcodes them. There simply isn't an option to have it stream them without trabscoding, like there is in Subsonic.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

If the payer (in this case, an Android phone) supports FLAC, it will stream FLAC lossless. If the player doesn't, then it will transcode.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

That doesn't seem to be the case... My receiver and bluray player support FLAC and I can stream FLAC lossless into them via Subsonic, but I can't do that with Flex. Like I said, there simply isn't an option in Flex settings where you can turn transcoding off, it always does that automatically.

Their own support page page says so:

Direct Play Music Support

The following audio formats are usually supported for music playback:

MP3
M4A

Tip!: Other audio formats such as FLAC or ALAC will be transcoded by your Plex Media Server to be compatible.

Tuomas, Thursday, 29 September 2016 07:42 (seven years ago) link

Hmm, looks like that page is only for the Smart TV app... So maybe you can stream lossless files into an Android device, but you can't do that with networked receivers or bluray players.

Tuomas, Thursday, 29 September 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link


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