Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

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There's been some talk about digital music collections in the past on threads like The Data Migration Thread , but I wanted to start a new thread! dedicated solely to those of us who are actively building up (legally acquired) digital music collections. I'm not talking about buying a CD or LP and then digitizing it, but buying music natively in mp3, FLAC, or some other format. The majority of posters on ILM seem to prefer their music on LPs and CDs, and I definitely see the appeal in doing that--up until very recently, I had to have everything in CD-- but I think there might be a few others who, like me, are starting to purchase most of their music digitally.

Recently, I've decided to go (mostly) digital. The first step in this process has been culling my CD collection. I sold off a chunk of the collection in two batches, and I'm getting ready to sell off a third. My goal is to eventually have as few physical CDs as possible, and I want all of my digital music to sit on two hard drives. Most of the new music I buy is from Amazon mp3, although I'm currently searching for some good online stores that sell everything in FLAC.

I'm doing this for several reasons:

(1) I'm 22, so I'm of the generation that sees CDs as nothing more than a storage medium. I buy a CD, rip it into iTunes, and place it on my CD shelves, where it sits forever.
(2) I have a lot of books, and I'm not a fan of eBook readers, so I plan on acquiring many more books than I already own, and I don't want to maintain two physical media collections.
(3) I need less shit in my life in general.
(4) There's a lot of stuff that's difficult for me to easily acquire where I live, and I've been able to find some stuff that I've had a lot of difficulty tracking down in brick-and-mortar stores on Amazon mp3 and iTunes.
(5) A lot of artists are starting to do the whole LP + mp3/FLAC thing, and I have no desire to start collecting LPs. I think that soon enough more and more artists will start going this route as CDs sales continue to tank.

Is anyone else actively maintaining a digital record collection or planning on doing so? Where are you buying from? How are you storing and organizing everything?

As I said, I'm sure that the audience for this thread on this board is relatively small, but I'm hoping there might be at least a few others out there who are going this route, and perhaps we can get a discussion going.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Saturday, 22 August 2009 23:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can't even fathom doing what you're doing. seems no stretch of my imagination no matter how great will alow me to even consider the possibility paying for an mp3. sorry!

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 22 August 2009 23:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Keep all your favorite/best CDs, or yer gonna feel like a chump when that hard drive explodes

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 22 August 2009 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Much more convenient for housebreakers too, like being able to carry away a whole collection in a binder.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 22 August 2009 23:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm more interested in how people are organizing large digital collections. Do you just chuck it all in one folder or do you take the time to set things up in an artist/album way? Do you keep multiple CDs as multiple folders or just combine it all? Do you get rid of duplicates or is that too much work? Etc.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 23 August 2009 00:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I trust that when you say "two hard drives" you mean one to back up the other. Wouldn't be the dumbest thing to, from time to time, dump everything to a third that you send offsite--back to your parents' house, for example. I'd also make sure you were getting everything at the highest quality possible. What seems good now, won't. And storage will someday be irrelevant.

I just use iTunes, so that takes care of the folders and files. Two external drives (one good quality for constant use, the other, cheaper, to backup the first once a week). I do try to eliminate duplicates, but that can be a lot of work. And also to maintain consistency of names and genres. There are certainly times I feel more like a database manager than a music listener.

But I still can't see getting rid of the originals. Risky. Maybe putting them in deeper storage?

Michael Train, Sunday, 23 August 2009 00:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm more interested in how people are organizing large digital collections.

I don't have an enormous digital collection, only about 4000 songs. I organize it in a pretty standard way, I think. A folder for each artist, and then within that, folders for each album, using the format of:

year - album name

Adding the year onto the front can be a hassle if you didn't do it from the start, but once everything uses that format it's convenient because it arranges everything chronologically under each artist.

I also make sure that I have album art for each album, which has come in handy recently with my new iPhone acquisition, since you can flip through your collection by scrolling through album covers.

ZS69 (Z S), Sunday, 23 August 2009 00:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

My concern with acquiring material digitally is bad rips - I'm paranoid about downloading something from Amazon and hearing digital noise. I've heard reports of this a number of times; I'd rather make my own rips and have the quality under my own control.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 23 August 2009 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Z S, do you still buy many physical releases?

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Sunday, 23 August 2009 01:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm more interested in how people are organizing large digital collections. Do you just chuck it all in one folder or do you take the time to set things up in an artist/album way? Do you keep multiple CDs as multiple folders or just combine it all? Do you get rid of duplicates or is that too much work? Etc.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

For right now my shit's all over the place, but I'm starting to work out in my head how I'm going to manage this . . .

I'm considering starting off by organizing by the SOURCE of the mp3. So, if I download something from Amazon, it will go into an Amazon/[artist name] folder. Then I'll copy everything into iTunes and have it copy everything into its own directory structure and sort everything for me.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Sunday, 23 August 2009 01:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Keep all your favorite/best CDs, or yer gonna feel like a chump when that hard drive explodes

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

^ This is the plan, Whiney.

Honestly, though, I usually listen to records I love 30-40 times and then I can barely, if ever, listen to them again. Wilco's a ghost is born is my favorite record of the decade, and I've barely listened to it since 2005. By then, my brain's had enough of the record for a lifetime.

Reading his posts is like watching The Ring (kshighway), Sunday, 23 August 2009 01:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I buy records with pretty much all of my spare money, which isn't much, admittedly. I download everything else.

ZS69 (Z S), Sunday, 23 August 2009 01:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I have about 45 DVDs on a spindle, each of which holds about 4.5 GB of MP3s (AACs, actually). I have a desktop iMac with a 250GB hard drive which has about 50GB or so of music on it, and I'm planning to burn all that to DVD pretty soon. I've also got a laptop (on which I'm typing this post) with a similar-sized hard drive, and that one's got about 25GB of music on it at present (because that's the one I import all my promo CDs to, and download digital promos to). I'm gonna burn that stuff to DVD soon as well. How many individual albums does all this add up to? Several thousand, easy.

unperson, Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

my brain's had enough of the record for a lifetime.

Yeah, I feel the same about that Wilco album. Mind you, I've never heard it.

Dom J. Palladino (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

stop ripping. bind your cds its totally hot

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

unperson: Do you still buy/collect any physical albums or are you mostly digital?

kshighway, Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Album art is always nice to have, in any form. To me, just collecting mp3s seems really sterile and doesn't have any connection to the process of collecting music. A lot of my best memories of music are of buying it at my favorite local store, or studying the lyrics. My thought process when I think about an album immediately begins with the album cover.

I guess there's nothing wrong with collecting music the way you are, and god knows, just about everyone your age was raised under the same circumstances. I personally never want to stop "collecting" music outside of the mp3 format, although I do realize there will come a day (in the not too distant future) that cars won't even come with CD players.

slagterm, Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

and all your meals will come in tablet form.

Someone left the cape out in the rain (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Do you still buy/collect any physical albums or are you mostly digital?

I don't keep many individual album CDs around anymore - one tower's worth, which is about 400 or so, plus another couple of hundred slimcase promos and things in weirdly shaped digipaks which I keep in a cabinet. Mostly what I keep is boxed sets, especially archival ones like the Anthony Braxton Mosaic box from last year, or the Miles Davis Complete Plugged Nickel Sessions set.

unperson, Sunday, 23 August 2009 02:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

stop ripping. bind your cds its totally hot

Yes, great idea. This works best if you put similar genres adjacent to each other (e.g., all your M0unt41n G04ts CDs next to your Bright Eyes, Dashboard Confessional and Taking Back Sunday). That way once J0hn D. gets you feeling all emo and sad, it's only a single binder page-flip to your Chris Carrabba stuff! Woo!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

god the saddoes eager to show they've heard of me are out in force tonite eh

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

lool

you! me! posting! (electricsound), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

:'(

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

eager to show they've heard of me

Seriously though -- considering I've been on ILM three years, that was hardly the point.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude it's all love I was just rezingin please unsad that face

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 August 2009 03:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

How good a sound quality/how great a breadth would an on-demand music service have to be in order to consider doing away with having a digital collection at all?

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 23 August 2009 04:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

I can't really hear the difference between a well encoded mp3 and a FLAC, even though I've had the opportunity to use some pretty heavy audiophile equipment in the past...tin ears, I guess. so as long as it's 200+ kbps I'm fine, which both Amazon and iTunes do now.

what are you gonna do when iTunes moves to this rumored 'Cocktail' format?

my biggest problem with a digital collection is all the metadata. do you add the lyrics? when do you feel the need to add a composer? what if you can't find a decent scan of the album art bigger than 150x150 pixels? etc.

tony dayo (dyao), Sunday, 23 August 2009 06:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

We've got about 80gb of music on this iMac, which runs three iPods - an 80gb classic that sits on the Zeppelin, my 1gb shuffle, and Em's iPhone. It's not backed up anywhere at the moment, because we've only just migrated to this machine in the last week. We've got an external HD that'll take it all. The vast majority of it is backed up next door on a couple of thousand CDs though, and most of our listening is probably still off CDs. I've bought a few dozen songs from iTunes, mainly b-sides, odd old singles, and things that I'd not want a whole album or compilation of. I guess those are the only ones that really NEED backing up. Everything's just organised via iTunes; I'm pretty anal about covers & tags & things. I don't think we'd ever go totally digital; just yesterday I bought The XX album on CD. I love CDs too much. But then I'm 30.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 23 August 2009 07:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

for all you guys backing up to CD/DVD, be careful: Up To 10% of CD-Rs Fail Within a Few Years

tony dayo (dyao), Sunday, 23 August 2009 07:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've got pretty much my entire music collection in digital form on a 500gb hard drive (with another one as backup) for iPod purposes - however I only really buy singles digitally rather than whole albums. This is partly because I like the physical object and partly 'cos the CDs I do still buy are mostly very cheap secondhand/bargain bin ones so it's cheaper just to rip from the disc. That said, I've got rid of/have boxed up to get rid of 350+ CDs this year, basically things I've gone off. I moved earlier this year and I've got slightly less room in the new house which certainly spurred me on and I'll be honest, it feels really good paring things down (I still have loads left though!).
The main reason for me buying CDs over vinyl was portability - I've always done a large portion of my listening on the move and I had a CD walkman up until a few years back. However I've started replacing some CDs with vinyl for home listening and I intend to buy more nof my new music in vinyl form (really grateful to those labels who include a download coupon with the record). I could never see myself only having a digital collection and nothing else - I'm sure I'll hang on to lots of my remaining CDs for as long as they can be played.

Gavin in Leeds, Sunday, 23 August 2009 09:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

(really grateful to those labels who include a download coupon with the record)

Seconding this.

I think I'm at 8 or 9TB of digital files now split evenly between audio and video and I'm probably going to go to some sort of desktop RAID 5 set up once the next generation of 2+TB drives become common. I'm more concerned with having a decent file system that can handle all that and a metafile indexer/cataloger that won't collapse when I hit it with that size of data.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 23 August 2009 22:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Even if i was goin digital, I think I would throw all my CDs in storage or somethin

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 23 August 2009 22:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean, amassing a bunch of files isn't really "collecting" anything anymore is it? It;s like saying you collect pokemon

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

For those who are on PC, Mediamonkey is the only place to go.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

"I mean, amassing a bunch of files isn't really "collecting" anything anymore is it? It;s like saying you collect pokemon"

If you have a file that isn't readily replaceable/accessible (like say something dubbed off a rare public access TV performance that only you have a VHS copy of), then it takes on more of the properties of something tangible/loseable like pokemon cards, but my thinking is that music services will increasingly make obsolete any need to keep a file or file backup at all.

For example, netflix users wouldn't bother to "collect" movies they've seen on netflix, at least not with any great frequency. (though there's supposedly some pirate group that prides itself on having backed up the entire netflix catalog)

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't really consider my digital music a "collection" per se, it's just me tunes

i could (and will) quite happily be all-digital in the future. i'll probably hang on to most of my cds, boxed up and stored away, more than anything else because it's not worth the time or effort trying to sell them.

you! me! posting! (electricsound), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

my digital vs hard copy purchase ratio is about 9 to 1 at the moment. i think i've bought less than 50 cds this year.

you! me! posting! (electricsound), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

well but this is what begs the really interesting generational divide question. what is your collection? a series of hard-evidence signifiers about experiences you've had & can have again at will, tangible evidence of those experiences - or is your real collection the experiences themselves, and the physical collection something of an old-fashioned proof that will no longer be necessary in the future/present? nb I am from the previous gen so for me I gotta have some physical token to feel like I "own" something. but I don't think that's the only way to conceive of "ownership," and I suspect that different conceptions - no less valid - will replace/have replaced "our" conception. it's like: I don't save ticket stubs or collect/trade shows, but I do have a collection of live music experiences - that collection is the experiences themselves. digital collections are considerably more tangible than those, right?

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost w/philip btw

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Honestly, though, I usually listen to records I love 30-40 times and then I can barely, if ever, listen to them again."

I cannot for the life of me fathom feeling this way about "records I love".

Alex in SF, Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

At age 45, my big paradigm shift was when the artwork and liner notes shrank from 12" to 5", so I find myself strangely blasé (perfectly happy, actually) about the shift from 5" disc to digital file.

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pardon my grammar. I'm 45, not my paradigm shift.

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

w/r/t generational divide, I don't believe the next generation will be so alien as to maintain a digital collection against an endless buffet that makes that collection obsolete when making personal top-ten lists does all the signifying one needs (and is an activity well-enjoyed cross-generationally)

so maybe this kind of digital album collecting as if they were physical albums will be a weird hiccup peculiar to just this moment in time.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can appreciate good artwork as much as the next dude but i've pretty much always listened to music the same way - compiled the best songs into whatever format i was working with at the time (tape, cdr, playlist) and listen to that, completely separate from the original artifacts. so artwork is really something i only ever looked at if i wanted to know who the producer was or something. frankly some records i appreciate more for not having the shitty artwork.

internetkonnektivität (electricsound), Sunday, 23 August 2009 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have a car and that is mostly why i buy cds

winston, Monday, 24 August 2009 04:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Honestly, though, I usually listen to records I love 30-40 times and then I can barely, if ever, listen to them again. Wilco's a ghost is born is my favorite record of the decade, and I've barely listened to it since 2005. By then, my brain's had enough of the record for a lifetime.

How old are you? I found that after about 10 years, I bought a lot of albums I previously weeded out by favorite groups. Now that I'm digitizing my collection, it's not as big a deal. I'm still keeping 60% of my CDs. I'm ripping in FLAC with dbpoweramp, correct some tagging and make playlists with Mediamonkey, and listen in three rooms with Squeezebox. I will be able to fit everything on my 6TB NAS server with room to spare, and have everything backed up twice, one on extra drives at home, another at work. It's nice to be able to have access to everything at work.

I think it's crucial to use lossless files. You can easily convert them to another format with a batch converter without losing anything. Buying CDs is still the cheapest option, because you can get deals on them new and used for under $10 each. $1 to $2 a song for FLAC is just not an option. The CDs you don't want to keep, you can sell, and end up spending only $2 to $5 on the music.

I'm listening to more of my music more often now that I can play it simultaneously in multiple rooms. Living with someone else the past couple years, I had stopped listening later at night because she goes to sleep earlier. Now I can put on some closed headphones and have access to the whole collection from bed on the Duet remote.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 24 August 2009 13:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean, one of the biggest obstacles for me re: digital is that iTunes keeps changing how it organizes things.

Like for a while it was just artist/song/album and then with a recent update you can put files in one pile while labeling it another with "sort by." Also my iphone used to recognize "sort by" so I'd sort all my compilations by "#" so the errant comp tracks just show up at the end. The new iPhone update no longer recognizes "sort by" and my iphone tracks are now a shitty jumble again.

Who knows what iTunes will change to? Or even if we'll be using itunes in 10 years?

patti lmaonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 August 2009 13:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

where we're going, we don't need iTunes

tony dayo (dyao), Monday, 24 August 2009 13:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

iTunes is just a ID3 tag editor isn't it (at least for mp3 files) and it's such an 800 pound gorilla that I'm sure whatever player we'll be using in the future, Mp3-O-Matic 5000 or whatever, will definitely be "iTunes compatible"

the Album Artist field is such a life saver w/r/t rap albums...and Sort By is great for those who catalog by last name, among others

tony dayo (dyao), Monday, 24 August 2009 13:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

but completely useless for people that use iphones

patti lmaonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 August 2009 13:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

sent out my ipod classic to be refurbed with a 512 gb ssd. hopefully i get it back!

Totally report back how this goes. I think about doing it constantly

(I want the 1TB option though lol)

― or at night (Jon not Jon), Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:17 PM (four hours ago)

I wasn't aware that this was even possible! How exciting! I feel like the iPod might have been the last useful product Apple made

sarahell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 06:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

AAC is better only at low bitrates so eh

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Sunday, 11 June 2017 07:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

here is where i point out once again that apple views music downloads as "legacy"

there is probably, though i don't know this, a set of benchmarks beyond which they will shutter the itunes store, and cannot wait to do it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 07:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

koogs otm

"mp3 is dead" = patents expired this year so we can't force anyone to pay us for it any longer, try this other encumbered format instead, it's so much better, honest!

Vorbis and musepack have been around for over a decade and are also "better" than mp3 yet no one was in a rush to dump the latter for those.

at high bitrates all good lossy codecs are transparent, under 128kbps mp3 is still good but beaten by opus and aac.

chihuahuau, Sunday, 11 June 2017 11:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

what codec does spotify use?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://support.spotify.com/uk/using_spotify/search_play/what-bitrate-does-spotify-use-for-streaming/

This (pleasantly) surprises me (ogg!)

koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(web player may be different, in 2013 anyway)

koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(BBC uses aac for radio. Sometimes flac for radio 3)

koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This thread convinces me to stick to CDs when they're available. All this shit sounds way too complicated.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It really isn't an either/or. I buy CDs when available and easily maintain a large digital library. I enjoy the curation aspect and putting something new into the library is a snap at this point. I'm prepared for the streaming apocalypse though there's too much money for it to really happen.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

easily maintain a large digital library.

O RLY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I do buy mp3 albums but very rarely

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This thread convinces me to stick to CDs when they're available. All this shit sounds way too complicated.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:46 AM (six hours ago)

For years I agreed with you. Now I'm looking at how much physical space they take up (and the records ... *sigh*) and digital is way more appealing.

sarahell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don't buy vinyl but I am considering those space saving sleeves someone highlighted on this or some other thread

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I thought I was a hoarder but getting uneasy about approaching 60GB means I probably don't qualify

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

to be fair, 60 gb is by any reasonable standard is a lot for mp3s. it's just that some of us are just completely insane hoarders and it's only moore's law that lets us get away with it. (wait, do i really have 700 gb of videos i downloaded from youtube since last October to back up? including 7 gigs of nothing but tv station logos? i am insane.)

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's only moore's law that lets us get away with it.

And I am content.

I do buy mp3 albums but very rarely

I buy them all the time, but strictly speaking I am buying from Bandcamp, where I can get them in any digital format I choose. So I go for 320 kbps and forget about it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2017 00:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I thought I was a hoarder but getting uneasy about approaching 60GB means I probably don't qualify

― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:48 PM (five hours ago)

I think an acquisition rate is also something important to consider as whether one "qualifies" -- I mean, is that 60GB over a 10 year period? Including ripped CDs acquired over a 20 year period? Including ripped CDs and digitized records acquired over a 30 year period?

sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 01:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My lifetime collection ripped to lossless is about 730GB for 35k tracks. Mind you I had about 3000 CDs before I started ripping. I'd estimate I have bought ... 30 albums? in digital form and about 20% of the collection is MP3 (live recordings etc).

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 June 2017 03:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I started this thread.

As of right now, I own one record -- the new Paramore one. On CD.

I am now on Apple Music. I own some stuff I’ve purchased via iTunes too.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Might be buying The Wilco Book sometime, which comes with a CD.

I anticipate the Paramore CD will not be the last CD I buy in any case, but I have no plans to return to buying a lot of physical music.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Also no plans to start up a big digital music collection. lol. Apple Music, baby.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

All that being said, I understand that people have different desires for their music, and that’s fine. Luckily, we have options.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

options are great. Love me some options.

sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

$59 for a 1TB external drive that can hold all the music I've ever owned - can't see the need for cloud streaming. But for some, buy once own everywhere makes perfect sense.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 June 2017 04:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Stuff on my wishlist that is only available or affordable on digital: some Art Zoyd/Zaboitzeff, some Foetus albums, some Jarboe albums, some Trance To The Sun albums, a Fauns album, most Silvania albums, most Jute Gyte and a bunch of dungeon synth (which is mostly on cassette as their only physical media).
There's probably going to be a lot more.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

at least 10 years at this point, yeah

although the speed of growth is limited, in practice, by how many CDs I can afford to buy, and since I made the brilliant decision to be broke constantly, that speed is necessarily slow (I don't really like downloading something where I don't own a physical copy, unless it's the only option)

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 12 June 2017 13:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've only got about 1,000 cds - not trivial, but certainly not ridiculous - and I'm looking at moving them across country in a couple of weeks and it really bums me out. It's been at least five or six years since I've actually listened to any of them, they're all digitized and backed up, but I can't really bring myself to throw them away and selling them seems daunting and not worth the effort.

I did finally get around to buying plastic sleeves to replace all the jewel cases; for a while this looked like it would run $500 to buy jewel sleeves, but I found a pack of 1,000 cheaper ones for $130. Now I just need to spend a couple of hours repackaging all of them. And I'll probably never unpack the boxes at the other end of the move.

joygoat, Monday, 12 June 2017 15:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

feel kinda sad for those cds

niels, Monday, 12 June 2017 15:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Now I just need to spend a couple of hours repackaging all of them. And I'll probably never unpack the boxes

oh man, I'm doing this now too -- not moving, just "decluttering" -- but I never digitized most of them, so, I am doing that at the same time. I'm doing binders for the ones in jewel cases, and putting the ones with alternative packaging in storage boxes.

sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 17:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i long sinced binderized everything of mine except my operas (because of their libretto booklets) and film scores (because they're the only CDs I own with any resale value)

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 June 2017 17:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I had to put a couple hundred in the basement, still sticking with jewel cases for now. It's nice having a large house in a cheap market.

I should probably go through them in a cull, and try to get whatever meager store credit still applies, but I have the room so maybe I'll just wait for the mythical CD value/nostalgia spike that's sure to happen any decade now

sleeve, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

maybe I'll just wait for the mythical CD value/nostalgia spike that's sure to happen any decade now

hahahah - i think the same thing!

sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Death of the CD Binder

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I would not store my CDs in binders if I had enough CDs to store in a binder.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

agreed

sleeve, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/05/ode-to-a-fallen-bro-of-a-product-the-cd-binder.html

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sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I moved overseas three years ago and we sold everything we'd had stateside, including all 3000 cds or so. We just went with an auction house and I have no idea how much we got and I never want to know. I'd ripped them all so the music never stops but it was a stark moment.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

nothing more 2002 than a CD binder full of CD-Rs

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 12 June 2017 20:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Still got several of those. Backed up a lot of early mp3s I got that way and when I finally imported them into my HD, they all held up.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

mp3 CD-Rs have had long lives for me, but mp3 DVD-Rs have definitely not. A lot of those became unreadable within 5-6 years.

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 June 2017 20:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don't have any binders, but I do have several spindles of CD-Rs and DVD-Rs full of music. Long since imported to the external hard drive, so I should probably just get rid of them.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Still have my 2 giant CD binders with my old collection (need to rerip, last time I ripped them I went straight to 320kbps and I need lossless to truly make them obsolete)

BTW my burned CDs are now to a point where they're beyond their life cycle and degraded to the point where the first couple tracks are all glitched. Like all of them.

octobeard, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Still got several of those. Backed up a lot of early mp3s I got that way and when I finally imported them into my HD, they all held up.

That's how I stored my why ess I treasures from back in the day.

wtev, Monday, 12 June 2017 23:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm at... four binders, five, something like that? the real answer is I'm at something like four binders and then a giant-ass box that never seems to get emptier no matter how much I rip

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 01:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Stuff on my wishlist that is only available or affordable on digital: some Art Zoyd/Zaboitzeff, some Foetus albums, some Jarboe albums, some Trance To The Sun albums, a Fauns album, most Silvania albums, most Jute Gyte and a bunch of dungeon synth (which is mostly on cassette as their only physical media).
There's probably going to be a lot more.

― Robert Adam Gilmour

what art zoyd are you looking for

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 02:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Phase/Inquiets disc and maybe a few others.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 02:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ok, yeah, the only one i have is the 2cd of the first three.

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 02:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nativ Vita

This is a tablet designed specifically for audio library management/playback. Up to 4TB of storage, mutli-format (inc. 24-bit) playback and output, multi-room management, etc.

$1,600 and no on-board DAC ???

A swing and a miss, unless you're a rich bitch.

bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 15 June 2017 01:10 (one week ago) Permalink

tablet/brick, rather

bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 15 June 2017 02:16 (one week ago) Permalink


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