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Since there's no longer (and hardly ever was) an I Love Writing board, and since there are a quite a few pro and amateur hacks here, I thought it might be worth starting a general purpose thread for the dark art.

I don't really consider myself a journo, having only had a couple of things published here and there (mostly for free might I add), but it would be good to get more stuff in print I admit. It would be interesting to hear more from people who've been doing it for longer than I have.

To get things rolling, I thought I'd ask a staple question that I think may have been toiled over before on ILX, regarding use of the first person in gig and LP reviews. Is this generally considered unacceptable in anything less than the most stylistic circumstances? Or does it really not matter too much? What about the use of "this writer" (don't really like this myself, I'd rather use "I/me" than "this writer", but that's just a personal thing).

Anyway, feel free to discuss whatever you like about music writing and journalism here.

dog latin, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:04 (ten years ago) link

I've said before about how I always hated that "The NME was told by Morrissey'" which is fine on the news page, but when it's "Morrissey bought the NME a drink and began .." on an interview, it's dumb.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:08 (ten years ago) link

Wrt first person: depends on who you're writing for and what kind of piece it is. Personally speaking, I've often had issues with the idea of "objective" criticism, so pretty much everything I've written, music-wise, has used the "I." But I've also avoided writing album reviews for publication, preferring to keep to autobiographical essays, short takes on singles, and blog posts, and in those contexts, no one's had an issue with it.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:14 (ten years ago) link

I often use first person, though rarely in a particularly deliberate way. It doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Something I've noticed that crops up in features like that, something that isn't necessarily wrong per se, but I feel is one helluva boring way to start one of these goes along the lines of: "It is 3:17pm on a rainy Monday afternoon. The NME sits in a Harringey spit'n'sawdust boozer sipping a pint of Timothy Landlord..." etc. What I mean here is that the intro seems to tell you more about the time and weather and location of the actual interview than about who is being interviewed. Whenever I read features like this I tend to stop reading much past the first paragraph.

dog latin, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:19 (ten years ago) link

3:17pm on a rainy Monday afternoon. The NME sits in a Harringey spit'n'sawdust boozer sipping a pint of Timothy Landlord

^ very accurate summary of state of british indie rock in the 09, though

thomp, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:22 (ten years ago) link

"It is 3:17pm on a rainy Monday afternoon. The NME sits in a Harringey spit'n'sawdust boozer sipping a pint of Timothy Landlord..."

if you're gonna "set the scene" like this the best way to do it is to say "[the artist] sits by the swimming pool sipping a mojito" - the i/v is about them after all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:26 (ten years ago) link

i mean all obv dependent on what kind of feature, which publication &c &c &c

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:27 (ten years ago) link

"[the artist] sits by the swimming pool sipping a mojito"

The Lex interviews Raygun.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:45 (ten years ago) link

I tend to use first person if my experience is an important part of the total picture. If I'm writing a piece that's based on a phone interview and three listens to the album, I don't do it; but if the publicist has flown me to Ireland to spend three or four days with the band, fuck yes I'm gonna inject myself into the story because I am then part of the story. I never use first person in CD reviews.

unperson, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:52 (ten years ago) link

there's no i love writing board per se but consider this thread. a not-just-music writers' discussion might be fun.

New: "I Love Writing"

the first person thing is tricky. back when I wrote for the village voice many many years ago it was practically required in music reviews. as time went on many publications took the opposite tack, pretty much banning the "I" these days in the NY Times reporters are required to don this pseudo anonymity which I think reads terribly. instead of "so and so told me that..." it's "so and so told a reporter" waht? was it YOU or just some other random journalist who happened to be in the room?

m coleman, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:03 (ten years ago) link

ha, you *are* the room!

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:06 (ten years ago) link

Maybe 5% of music writing in the first person isn't hacky. I see it as a huge red flag. Unless it's absolutely necessary to the story, don't do it, imo.

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:08 (ten years ago) link

How is it "hacky"?

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:12 (ten years ago) link

Maybe 5% of music writing in the first person isn't hacky.

Hoot Smalley, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:13 (ten years ago) link

On second thought:

Maybe 5% of music writing in the first person isn't hacky.

Hoot Smalley, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:14 (ten years ago) link

o here we are slagging off writers again, that didn't take long at all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:17 (ten years ago) link

there are different kinds of first-person usage. the kind i can't stand is the showy first-person narrative, where the writer becomes some kind of presence. but there's also just the casual "i" where it can be sensible and unobstrusive. "i love the first two tracks" doesn't seem more objectionable to me than "the first two tracks are great" -- they're both obviously subjective statements of personal preference. but i know some editors who will reflexively remove every "I" from copy, so it's good to know the standards you're writing to.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:18 (ten years ago) link

Just slagging off the hacks. If you'd like to defend bad writing, have at it.

Hoot Smalley, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:18 (ten years ago) link

My favourite one, (iirc)

"Kirk Brandon formed Theatre of Hate around the same time as I joined the NME. At the time, we were both unknown..."

(Can't remember the writer)

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:20 (ten years ago) link

(many xposts)

I mean, I get into this argument all the time. Generally, I don't CARE about the writer. If the writer was an interesting person, I'd be reading an article on THEM, not the artist I care about. Like wow, the Jesus And Mary Chain helped you get through high school. You and America, buddy.

Generally if a piece of music writing has the word "I" in the first sentence, I usually stop reading, real talk. Save it for your dream journal.

The sad shit is now most mag writing is indistinguishable from internet writing because rates are so low.

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:21 (ten years ago) link

Not that there isn't exceptions blah blah blah strawman lol flame etc

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:22 (ten years ago) link

What about "I don't know about you but I'm fucking sick of this indie-lite electrodribble that permeates every airwave within earshot"?

dog latin, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:38 (ten years ago) link

Whiney, you do realize you just used the first person yourself five times in two sentences yourself, right?

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:41 (ten years ago) link

I'm posting on a message board, not writing for a paycheck!

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:42 (ten years ago) link

the mark richardson thing about lovely music in stylus is pretty much verbatim all the first person objections ur spoutin btw but imo its top5 great but I suppose its kinda like how it used to be pretty awesome when Buffy had to make some inspirational speech but in the last series she did it every episode and it was really tiresome?

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:44 (ten years ago) link

xp (And I just used "yourself" twice in one sentence, duh.)

Anyway, first person is a tool, like any other tool. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. (As an editor at the Voice, I was frequently known to edit sentences from pitch emails back into submitted reviews in part because the emails did use the first person, and sounded less stiff and stilted and more conversational in the process. I.e., sometimes it helps make for better writing just because that's how people talk. So I've never bought the idea that "writing for a paycheck" required "detaching yourself from the subject.")

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:47 (ten years ago) link

Again, i'm not saying that it's always bad, but there's not a lot of writers who can pull it off without sounding like My First Fanzine

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:49 (ten years ago) link

"The first time I saw Spoon..."

wooden shjipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:49 (ten years ago) link

So why would print them (unless it was a really good fanzine?)

Still, especially when space on the page is at a premium -- which it was even when wordcounts could get away with being ten times higher than they are now -- wasted words are wasted words, "I" included. (Though at least "I" is a fairly short word.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:50 (ten years ago) link

the mark richardson thing about lovely music in stylus

Think you mean Mike Powell, but Mark Richardson is a good example of someone who uses the first person to excellent effect in his Resonant Frequency column.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:52 (ten years ago) link

oops yeah

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:53 (ten years ago) link

If you can write entertainingly, I forgive your first person narrative.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:54 (ten years ago) link

xhuxk on point

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:59 (ten years ago) link

xp "So why would print them?", I meant.

Anyway, bottom line is, no fucking way does the the detached pseudo-objective tone used in most glossies and daily newspapers make for better music writing than what I was printing week in and week out in the Voice for ten years (though sure, a few pieces I published may have sounded "Internetty" or whatever. Point was to have lots of different voices, so it'd be a miracle if anybody approved of all of them. I didn't want to ban Internetty writing -- which can be good too, sometimes -- either.)

On the other hand, I like the creativity with which guys like Sanneh at the Times have managed to get around the limitations against first person and swear words. A smart writer can work within those perimeters, too, and make it entertaining anyway.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:02 (ten years ago) link

its funny you mention sanneh--his profile of michael savage in the nyer from a couple weeks ago was very careful about not using "i" (which i think is generally a no-go in the nyer, except in the personal essays they publish every once in a while) but still managed to tell a set of interesting stories about sanneh's own encounters w/ savage that sort of hinged on sannehs own specific experiences trying to set up an interview... in the end, though, i thought it would have been a better piece if they had let him use an authorial I

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:06 (ten years ago) link

wow that got convoluted

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:06 (ten years ago) link

I thought about that, too.

Over the years, Savage has noticed that his disdain for the mainstream media is widely reciprocated ... So when he received an e-mail from a journalist asking for an interview, he was deeply suspicious. He read the e-mail on the air — he kept the writer anonymous, and didn’t mention that the request came from The New Yorker — and then asked his listeners, “Should I do the interview or not?”…

About a week later, Savage revisited the topic — “my continuing correspondence with a big-shot magazine writer.” He quoted the latest exchanges, along with his tart response, in which he asked, “Why must all of you in the extreme media paint everyone you disagree with as demonic? Why is the homosexual agenda so important to the midstream media?”

...

When he invited the journalist into one of his undisclosed locations, he proved to be a first-rate host, chatty and solicitous. A steady supply of beer refills lubricated the conversation (one of his earliest books was “The Taster’s Guide to Beer,” which was published in 1977), and as the temperature dropped and the sky above Berkeley started to turn orange, he seemed to be working hard to stay suspicious, despite himself. On his next show the next day, a caller asked how the interview had gone, and Savage described his interlocutor: "If I told you he looked like Obama, I wouldn't be far from the truth." Coming from him, this sounded like a deeply twisted compliment.

Sanneh has to resort to speaking of himself in the third person ("the journalist," "his interlocutor") but otherwise does a decent job with passive-ish phrases like "a steady supply of beer refills lubricated the conversation."

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:22 (ten years ago) link

no i think you're OTM, that NYer piece was convoluted. it read to me like sanneh had a personal 1 on 1 reaction to savage that was quite different than what he expected and the resulting article would have been more effective and immediate using the "I" but the NYer has always employed a certain lofty distance from its subjects, even in the 70s it wasn't really into the personal/new journalism thing. well apart from pauline kael I guess.

but journalists do have to meet readers half-way. my problem with a lot of the vintage village voice stuff is that it's so personal to the point of being impenetrable or off-putting.

m coleman, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:24 (ten years ago) link

the best first person stuff illustrates how the subject of an interview interacts with other people, rather than "setting the scene"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:25 (ten years ago) link

i'm guessing whiney's not big on fiction as a rule.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:26 (ten years ago) link

I'm not big on fiction as a rule either, and one of the principles that was drilled into me when I started writing was that first-person is something you have to earn--expecting the reader who's never heard of you before to go along with I-I-I-me-me-me instead of saying "So what?" and moving to the next item is not generally a good idea--but I love first person writing even if (despite whatever reputation I may have for it due to the 33 1/3 book) I don't use it all that often professionally.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:30 (ten years ago) link

matos if you don't mind me asking: you're not big on fiction as a journalistic device or (gasp) you don't like reading novels?

m coleman, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I don't write fiction or about music, but first-person is the default in my area of writing (analytic philosophy). Sometimes we resort to the royal "we" if we're feeling nervous about first-person. But it was made clear to me that third-person is to be avoided, as is passive voice.

deep olives (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:37 (ten years ago) link

hang on, you're not big on reading fiction...at all?!

xp!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:37 (ten years ago) link

xp I don't buy the "have to earn" thing. I'm not even sure what it means. If I listen to a song sung in the first person, I might be able to relate to, and be moved by, the song even if I'm unaware of the singer's specific biography. Not sure why reviews are necessarily different. You don't have to be a famous writer to have a life that creates a context.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:37 (ten years ago) link

i thought he meant less that you have to earn it in the sense of being already famous or noteworthy, but in the sense that you have to earn it through your writing--i.e. you have to justify use of the first person in the piece itself, not necc explicitly, but at least in making your "I" of interest to the reader

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:39 (ten years ago) link

When it's well done - and it does have to be superbly well done, and yes, generally (but not always) "earnt" - first-person music writing is my favourite of all music writing. (And when it's pointlessly done, the reverse holds true.)

For my own part, I avoid it at least 95% of the time - but then I come from a personal-blogging background, and taking "myself" out of the equation was a deliberate, sought objective.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:40 (ten years ago) link

My first piece at the Voice (when no reader could've had any idea who I was) and a couple soon after were in the first person, fwiw. I seriously doubt they would have improved if the "I"'s had been edited out. (Whether they stunk regardless is another question, but they wouldn't have stunk less.)

Editorial "we" -- first person plural -- bugs the hell out of me no matter what, though. I never buy it, and I've fought editors to keep it out of my own writing (which usually they've been open to).

And btw, I've also edited at Billboard, where first person is almost never allowed. So it's not like I don't know that drill. I just don't like it much.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:45 (ten years ago) link

Of course, at Billboard, the writing tended to be more news and less review-oriented. (So first person would have probably have made no sense anyway.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 16:47 (ten years ago) link

i like ron livingston a lot. he was really good in SEARCH PARTY.

also this was created by a farrelly brother...

maura, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 07:36 (one year ago) link

to be fair I don't know how old he's supposed to be in the series, guy doesn't look 50 though

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:01 (one year ago) link

he turned 50 in june

maura, Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:58 (one year ago) link

Southcomm sold its Kansas City paper too

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2017/12/26/the-pitch-new-ownership-editor-david-hudnall.html

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 December 2017 01:40 (one year ago) link

wow voice media group sold them right before i started working there

maura, Friday, 29 December 2017 11:53 (one year ago) link

It seems Southcomm bought up a bunch of alt-weeklies from the Voice media Group, then determined years later that they weren't going to become richer the way they were running them, and so they are now selling them off slowly (they still have Nashville Scene but let go of the editor and others; they sold Washington City Paper and Kansas City Pitch)

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:42 (one year ago) link

voice media group never owned washington city paper. it was started by the people who launched the baltimore cp.

this is depressing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SouthComm_Communications

maura, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:16 (one year ago) link

True. That's right Washington City Paper got sold long ago to Chicago Reader, and later to Creative Loafing and then to Southcomm. Tronc.inc (that bought and later shut down Baltimore City Paper; along with what it did elsewhere) and Southcomm have not been helpful to the alt-weeklies

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:30 (one year ago) link

nope! neither has wrapports (owners of the reader). media executives are the worst.

maura, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:49 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

i’m giving up

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

WHAT

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

at every turn this year i felt either implicitly disrespected by the publications i wrote for and/or the writing and editing process itself was so horrible and full of second-guessing that i could never enjoy the work that came out of it. i couldn’t even get a band i like into a year-end list which is just the latest way in which i feel my taste and my approach as a critic and my work aren’t “correct”

just gotta figure out something else to do

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:36 (one year ago) link

More to say after lunch but short answer: hell no

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

i don’t feel valued as a freelancer and has been proven countless times over the past four years, no one would ever hire me. so why put myself through it xp

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

which band? :(

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

i'd rather not say

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:40 (one year ago) link

i know it's extremely dramatic to announce this in a thread on ilx but writing it to myself wasn't enough

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

we need good people fighting critical orthodoxy from within so this is a shame

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

also a shame for you obviously

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

this is extremely sad, but I understand it so badly.
it's a completely different reality, but I did the same in Portugal.
it's not much, but you have all my support.

Nourry, Monday, 12 November 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

I'm also sad about this, but tbh quitting pursuits that are decreasing in personal enjoyment levels and/or compensation/sustainability is a super underrated move even if it feels shitty at the time so I can't help but support this decision

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:31 (one year ago) link

thanks y'all <3

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

THAT SAID if you were to start some kind of monthly emo newsletter or something just to have a project, I'd throw a couple $$ at that

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:41 (one year ago) link

Brad, I won't ask for details here, but I and quite a few of us would miss your precision, grace, and humor should you renounce criticism. Even pre-internet criticism was never a numbers game. Whether it's about Van Morrison or sundry remarks here, your POV means a great deal.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

thanks alfred <3

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

my taste and my approach as a critic and my work aren’t “correct”

ironically, about this, you are

rong

j., Monday, 12 November 2018 18:53 (one year ago) link

writer as worst interpreter of his own work shockah

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:54 (one year ago) link

that's not how i feel about my own work but it is how music media makes me think i should feel about my own work, if that helps

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:58 (one year ago) link

Brad's taste and approach aren't the most appealing to editors, which doesn't make them wrong, just out of sync with the lame state of music writing rn

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 November 2018 18:58 (one year ago) link

THAT SAID if you were to start some kind of monthly emo newsletter or something just to have a project, I'd throw a couple $$ at that

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.)

same.

Nourry, Monday, 12 November 2018 19:29 (one year ago) link

it’s a terrible time and brad deserves better. and so do brad’s potential readers

maura, Monday, 12 November 2018 19:51 (one year ago) link

but there are horrible young men getting covered by tmz who happen to release music in between photo ops and court dates, and they appeal to “millennial males” so...

maura, Monday, 12 November 2018 19:52 (one year ago) link

Brad if you hide your light under a bushel I will drive to where you are and shake you so hard

Your writing brings me great joy & your interests & passions & life experience make yours a unique voice. I hate that the industry is bringing you low <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 November 2018 05:51 (one year ago) link

Brad, I get where you are coming from. You do indeed have idiosyncratic tastes, which I sometimes don't relate to, and I can imagine how that plays out at a professional level, where it's always about hyping the next big thing, or jumping on one bandwagon or another. But even when I don't get a particular band that you are championing, I always admire your passion and eloquence, and I believe the world needs more space for talented writers with unique perspectives.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:31 (one year ago) link

that's a real shame to hear, I've always enjoyed your writing and taste Brad, so best of luck with whatever you do next

ufo, Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:39 (one year ago) link

Brad i literally did a dramatic reading of some parts of your Love Deluxe review to my friend and they were like "holy shit"

but yeah, i totally get it if the way things are in the industry have beaten you down, and i hope you find a bit more peace in what you end up deciding to do. i just wanted to chime in and say your writing voice (and your taste profile) is probably one of the biggest inspirations for me both as a listener and a writer, and i know a few other young writers who'd say the same. thanks for being a great critic.

austinb, Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:51 (one year ago) link

I can’t say I don’t completely relate. Idiosyncratic taste is the only thing worth anything, taste forward writing is the only honest kind

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 17 November 2018 08:32 (one year ago) link

Brad, let's start an email newsletter or something about awesome rock bands. fill an unfilled niche, enjoy writing again. maybe someone who has had some success with the newsletter format (which seems to be a thing?) can provide some guidance?

alpine static, Saturday, 17 November 2018 11:06 (one year ago) link

Bandcamp is looking for a writer/editor to take the spot of Marcus Moore who is leaving to finish a book on Kendrick Lamar. Bandcamp wants someone who knows hiphop and jazz and more.

LA Times is hiring a music editor

https://www.journalismjobs.com/1649049-music-editor-los-angeles-times

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 November 2018 13:55 (one year ago) link

thanks y'all, it is especially heartening to read these things from some of my favorite posters here <3

i tried doing a newsletter a few years ago but couldn't really keep up with it, but that was more a vehicle for mixes and maybe if i took that side work out of the equation i could just focus on the writing. it def wouldn't be about new emo or rock music bc... idk, it gets harder and harder for me to write anything substantial about music i haven't lived with for a while. thinking about it still

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 November 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

very sad to hear this brad :( :(

mark s, Saturday, 17 November 2018 14:19 (one year ago) link

"Quitting pursuits that are decreasing in personal enjoyment levels and/or compensation/sustainability is a super underrated move even if it feels shitty at the time so I can't help but support this decision."

Having sacked music journalism for similar reasons, I'd say this is wise. Good luck with whatever you do next.

djh, Monday, 19 November 2018 18:14 (one year ago) link

Only just saw this, sorry for that (full week last week). Wish I had more concrete advice to offer but ultimately I'd say you'd want to find your best balance in what is ever more increasingly a shifting-sands landscape. And I've long since concluded that there is absolutely no one sure way to do that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 November 2018 18:56 (one year ago) link

Brad, nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I know, man. I KNOW. I have had very real frustrations in the last 2-3 years and felt myself close to walking away, too. But you're too smart and knowledgeable and insightful to leave this profession. So stay.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

(Your review of the last Green Day album was deeply on point. Did I mention that?)

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:02 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8530075/spin-stereogum-vibe-layoffs

Lay-offs at Spin, Stereogum, and Vibe. Includes an ilxor or maybe several.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:05 (two months ago) link

Several friends posted updates on social media yesterday. Ugh.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:01 (two months ago) link

Bezos shut down on 1 day notice the Express, a free Washington Post published paper that employed some arts writers

https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/09/13/the-washington-post-killed-express-in-such-a-shabby-way/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:38 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Owner of the OC Weekly suddenly shut down that Orange County , California publication

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:00 (one week ago) link

Jeff Weiss tweet excerpt: LA Weekly, OC Weekly, East Bay Express, and San Diego City Beat destroyed by greedy mayonnaise brained ghouls in the last 2 years alone. That’s basically four of the five biggest markets in California. Can’t stress how deep the impact is.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:04 (one week ago) link


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