Search and Destroy: Queensryche

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I find, sadly, that they've dried up for me (a long time ago, really). Their early stuff is idiotic, their later stuff is pandering. I'm keeping only Operation: Mindcrime (bludgeoning, over-extended and incomprehensible, great!) and EMPIRE (sonically so cool I can't say no). Got me a pretty penny for the old stuff, too!

Matt Riedl (veal), Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

where is the warning and rage for order idiotic? rage for order, especially, is much better than operation mindcrime all shadows and stalkers and neurosis. but mindcrime was still amazing if a bit overdone, or at least it once was, now they don't seem as smart as they once did back when i was 13 and delivering the detroit news on a freezing sunday morning some january while on my honda spree listening to them. queen of the reich was also a great song.

keith, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

operation: mindcrime is excellent overall. the lyrics happen to be great. if they were bad, i'd probably have a lot of trouble stomaching the whole project

search that album.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

this band is underrated by ilm

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:00 (eight years ago) link

But not by me.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:01 (eight years ago) link

OK, I only really know Operation: Mindcrime and Empire but I like them fine. Just put on Mindcrime.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:07 (eight years ago) link

saw recent footage of them on...one of these cable stations that shows a fair amount of live music, I forget its name. They were doing "I Don't Believe In Love" on a big outdoor stage, and they were killing it - dude is still in great voice, and the overall presentation of the song was so smart - really musical, subtly dynamic, just so grand. First time since childhood that I've seen live footage of a band and thought "I'd really like to hear a live album by these guys."

xpost we are listening to the same album right now!!

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:08 (eight years ago) link

the spoken/rapped? interlude in "spreading the disease" is so over the top & great

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:35 (eight years ago) link

The first three albums and the s/t EP are all pretty much perfect in my opinion. And the social commentary on Mindcrime ("Spreading the Disease" a prime example) was leagues sharper than any metal band at the time.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 06:41 (eight years ago) link

i loved operation mindcrime when i was in maybe 5th or 6th grade? it seemed like a cool sci-fi comic book or something. i dont remember much about it. i just remember doing what they told me...told me... told me...told me...

how's life, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:41 (eight years ago) link

Another rave for O:M here. Would recommend Mindcrime II to anyone who hasn't heard it. Much better than skeptical preconceptions would have suggested.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Dr. Davis, telephone please. Dr. Davis, telephone please.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:15 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

that's an awful lot of talking for a guy who just filed a lawsuit!

the dave cool channel you are supposed to watch (how's life), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:24 (seven years ago) link

Goin' full Sandusky!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:28 (seven years ago) link

I had forgotten how awful the album cover for Empire was. W/r/t the break-up...seems oddly late in the game for dudes to hand-wringing about "musical direction". Like, yr already in Queensryche, dude that ship has sailed.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:58 (seven years ago) link

"I write 81% of the music and the lyrics. Of the 144 songs that Queensryche has released, I've written 116 of those."

He only comes across as 81% douche, too. Who has those stats at the front of their mind, even if you did probably put them in the lawsuit?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:08 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

They do not believe in love, it seems.

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/headbang-blogpost.aspx?post=9394a27e-a1bd-4b83-9961-56973f85c561

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:04 (seven years ago) link

The punch also hit my right eye which had a contact lens in it. My contact jostled and I was trying to get it back in place so I could see. I told him to get away from me, but he kept pushing his chest into me calling me 'Pussy, f**king pussy! What, are you going to cry?' My eye was watering from my contact, I couldn't see clearly, and I pushed him away. Then Scott Rockenfield (our drummer) came down and told him to get away from me. Geoff Tate then threw another punch at me, but I ducked and it hit Scott Rockenfield right in the face (his mouth area). Scott Rockenfield told him to back off and then Geoff Tate punched Scott Rockenfield again in the face. At this point our tour manager, Fozzy O'Hare, pulled Geoff Tate away and one of our guitar technicians, Kenny Bender, helped me by getting a cold water bottle on my face to stop any swelling or redness. Geoff Tate came back over and called me a 'pussy' and a 'crybaby' again. I told everyone I needed a minute until I was able to get my vision back and I was moved to the other side of the stage until the crew felt they could get the situation under control. I then told my guitar technician, Gino Bishop, to get a towel to wipe off all the spit on my guitar that kept coming from Geoff Tate.

every single name in this passage is made up, right?

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (seven years ago) link

How dare you doubt Fozzy's existence.

https://www.facebook.com/orlando.s.ohare

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (seven years ago) link

http://scottrockenfield.com/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (seven years ago) link

https://www.facebook.com/kenny.bender.7

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

*Nelson laugh*

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579876_484411814905374_1760679355_n.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 22:50 (seven years ago) link

ned for real i think you should try to sell some publication on letting you do a long-form piece on this breakup, getting interviews with everyone etc

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 23:09 (seven years ago) link

I thank you for the compliment! But surely there are better writers for the job.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 00:01 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

"Insania"

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:13 (seven years ago) link

!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:23 (seven years ago) link

”wait watch this...”

*clip of Geoff Tate jumping onstage*

”love that”

U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) link

that was the exact point where I had to tap out

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) link

Is this an EPK for an album or just Geoff Tate the person?

U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:28 (seven years ago) link

Geoff Tate...the LEGEND.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:29 (seven years ago) link

And if you really want it:

http://www.threeriverswinery.com/GeoffTate?orderby=PXPC.DisplayOrder%20Asc,%20P.ProductName%20ASC&startrow=1

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Damn $35 a bottle is steep

U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:25 (seven years ago) link

Btw...that was a lot to process so I just now realized....he plays saxophone?

U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:35 (seven years ago) link

With his butt, probably.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:36 (seven years ago) link

Hey, it's made number two:

http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:00 (seven years ago) link

Oh man, poor bastard:

King-Diamond 4 points 1 hour ago

Never thought I would see this here. Queensryche has been a bit of a household legend in my immediate family. In fact, I'm actually named after Geoff Tate.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:22 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...
one month passes...

I haven't listened to Operation Mindcrime since I had it on cassette, and I dumped off nearly all of my cassettes pre-2000. Listening to it now, expecting the worst, it's actually not as awful as I'd thought it might be. I feel less like as goofball listening to this right now than I would any Rush concept album.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:10 (six years ago) link

these guys have released 14 studio albums now

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:31 (six years ago) link

http://media.mtvne.com/manual/intl/warner/2009/USRH10901776_640x480_01.jpg

tate really used to have a tommy wiseau thing going.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:35 (six years ago) link

he was a big fan of the t-shirt/sportcoat look

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:47 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

I am fortunate enough to have the "Revolution Calling" boxset which has the debut EP and first six albums with a ton of bonus stuff (and a CD-ROM game I never played). I am unfortunate enough to have a commute that is usually more than an hour long each way to my job. So I broke out the box for my commute and I came to two conclusions:

1) The debut EP might be the best metal Extended Play ever released. All four songs are amazing. And they would never sound like that again.

2) Don't sleep on "Rage For Order." The heshers love the earlier stuff and "Mindcrime" was of course a game-changer but "Rage" was the transitional album between the two ideas that has some of the brawn of the earlier stuff but also saw them taping into more heady ideas (including "Gonna Get Close To You," a cover from Candaian diva Dalbello, the original of which I never heard until very recently thanks to YouTube).

Everything after "Mindcrime" is at best spotty, but through and including that, this band was a force.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 18 October 2014 06:01 (five years ago) link

Mindcrime RULES.

When I lived in Seattle, I did a lot of volunteer work for both JAMPAC (Krist Novoselic's music political action committee) and No Vote Left Behind (a Vote for John Kerry organization run by Steve Mack from That Petrol Emotion). Queensryche helped us out with a lot of fundraising stuff. Geoff Tate is an enormous asshole, the rest of the guys are very cool.

They lost the plot when Chris De Garmo quit.

The Velvet Fog called me a motherfucker (Sandy), Saturday, 18 October 2014 06:56 (five years ago) link

Geoff is an enormous asshole? You don't say...

http://www.youtube.com/v/ChZ-QSinSF8&fs=1&hl=en

― it's all fuck what sit says, we'll do our own thing (Matt #2), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:03 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how's life, Saturday, 18 October 2014 12:34 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

i totally forgot how awesome Operation: Buttcream is.

those triumphant harmonized leads in "Revolution Calling" plus Geoff ratcheting in intensity in the pre-chorus.

even the rap bit in Spreading the Disease is dope.

but lately for me it's all about the EP. Queen of the REiiiiiccccchhhh

Neanderthal, Friday, 15 July 2016 12:21 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

God it's a shame that Tate sounds like a vivisected muppet now.

Actually it's more funny than sad

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:40 (one year ago) link

Really? That's a shame. I had a good karaoke experience with "Silent Lucidity" last time.

oh, shut up and listen, will you? (Sund4r), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:52 (one year ago) link

Lol i sing that one often

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:59 (one year ago) link

I really like Condition Human. it's a pretty inspired return to Queensryche form and new vocalist La Torre is a much better singer than Tate at this point.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:42 (one year ago) link

I should listen. I was sceptical regarding Tate-less Queensryche.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 19:45 (one year ago) link

Did someone say he sounded like a Muppet?

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/tate_bert.jpg

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 20:24 (one year ago) link

the new one is...also pretty good? and also metal like the last one?

they should never ever reconsider a Tate reunion if it is offered even if they mend fences.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:48 (one year ago) link

I’ll rep for “speak” with its awesome riffs

calstars, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

Also the OM cover is great

calstars, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Now who will come to wash away my sins, clean my room, fix my meals, wipe my ass, walk my dogs, clean my shoes, wash my car, clean my other rooms, BE MY FRIEND?!!!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:55 (one week ago) link

Had a Bert for a hair-do, yeah you looked pretty cool

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:25 (one week ago) link


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