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Im going with "Medicine Bottle".

Chris, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

24, because it is the only one i've heard

gareth, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Katy Song"

J, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Original: "Katy Song" - "Glass on the pavement under my shoe, without you, is all my life amounts to". I mean, Jesus, you want to buy Mark an ice cream cone or something, he's so sad.
Cover: this one is harder to pick, but "I Am a Rock". This song was made for RHP. That passage where he sings "I am an I...I...SLAND" does it for me every time. (close 2nd and 3rd, "All Mixed Up" and "Shock Me").

Ernest, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'll go with "Byrd Joel" from Old Ramon because it's upbeat and energetic unllike most of his songs. I'm not a huge fan, but Mark can pull off a few pretty songs here and there. Katy Song would be a close second.

John S., Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Katy Song. The advantage of listening to this song to killing yourself is that you can do it more than once. I could at least. ;-)

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I mean its really tough for me to pick just one, I'm a huge fan. His cover of REO Speedwagons "Keep on Loving You" is amazing. For covers I have to go with "Shock Me" as a first, although I really enjoy "I Am A Rock". I remember when I worked as a courier for a lab about 8 years ago and I would drive through the mountains of NH listening to RHP, it was such a serene drive. I would pull over and take in the view and just think. It was a great time...until I started having panic attacks.

Chris, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dragonflies is great too....i can't pick just one.

Chris, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Katy Song... again....

baxter wingnut, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Grace Cathedral Park.

Richard Jones, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What's theo ne where he's talking about her on a beach somwehere?

Queen I am neither Buffy nor the Messiah G, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Geoff, are you thinking of Japanese to English?

RickyT, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Either "Grace Cathedral Park" or "New Jersey."

nabisco%%, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

its totally simple, but "Have You Forgot."
Wrapped in white sheets, like an angel from a sad story.... That "Wop-A-Din-Din" off Old Ramon. His leading tracks are the best.

Brock K., Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Japanese to English" - the phrasing is bizarre when he gets to "Jap- an-eeee-ee-eese."

paul, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Only have one album (the longer self-titled one), but off that I'd choose "New Jersey". It's gorgeous.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I forgot to say that I love the line "You're not as good as your mom / but you're as good as dead." Self-obsessed wanker Mr.Kozolek (is my spelling correct?) may well be, but he has a way with phrasing, and a tune.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to go with "Lord Kill the Pain," but the Songs for a Blue Guitar version of "All Mixed Up" is six minutes of musical perfection.

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

D r a g o n f l i e s
this is the first you spoke of it
in your black magic house
in a cold damp attic
two windows stare at us like eyes
behind them
december's dark
early morning sky
and a couple of
dead trees
with their ornamental stars
i thought by now that i
figured your head out
until now i thought i
figured your body out
so please help me to understand
because i love you
more than anyone
i wonder in what fields today
you're chasing dragonflies at play
my little lost girl
so far away
this is the first you spoke of it

Chris, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Michael, or the piano version of Mistress, or Katy Song. I cannot choose between these three. Michael probably edges slightly ahead, for sharing opening lines with a Jandek song. Coincidence?

electric sound of jim, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

grace cahtedral park, it is elegant yet still very much a short pop number which were always in short supply in the rhp repertoire.

keith, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Summer Dress I think is the one I was thinking of, Michael is pretty darn fine as well

Queen I am neither Buffy nor the Messiah G, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
in the spirit of unoriginality

"katy song"

followed by

"grace cathedral park"

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 04:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

michael, followed by mistress (piano version)

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 05:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh shit i've already answered. at least i'm consistent

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 05:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

not 'silly love songs'.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 05:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His version of "All Mixed Up" is one of the best covers I've ever heard. He has an amazing talent to completely reconstruct songs into his own style.

"Medicine Bottle" is my personal favorite ... on his latest "Cruiser" is entrancing.

Is there any news on another release? Considering how long Old Ramon was in the can and all the covers he did while waiting for its release I was hoping for a backlog of RHP material.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Katy Song

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Since Katy Song seems to be the popular answer to this thread, I just wanted to tell a story related to the song (by the way, I mainly lurk, so you won't recognize me). Anyway, I interviewed Kozelek in 1996 and it was the day before he was leaving for a tour, so when I called, I was supposed to leave a message on his answering machine, and then he would pick up when he heard my voice. Turns out that a lot of his friends/enemies/whoever were calling him, and he was only interested in doing the interview, and nothing else. I didn't know that, so I called a couple of times and finally called the label to find out what was going on, since he didn't seem to be home. Finally I called back and left a message and we spoke.
Anyway, the point of the story is that in the message, it said "Katy and Mark aren't home right now . . ." When we finally spoke, he told me that he was living with the Katy from the song. Considering how sad that song is over the break up, I was so incredibly happy for the guy. I'm not sure if they are still together.

For me, I'd likely say Katy Song, Michael, Summer Dress, and Uncle Joe (sorry, can't pick just one). Oh, and I highly recommend you all try to track down the demo version of Smokey, which was on that Shanti Project CD. Far superior to the Old Ramon version, imho.

Jonathan, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 14:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
Every now and then, "Have You Forgotten" is my favorite song in the world. (Which is odd since it's so incongruous with the rest of my musical tastes.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I just realized that a song I did a while ago made a big unconscious steal from "Michael."

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Which, lyric-wise: "triple-ex-girlfriend!!!" That's like a Trash Can Sinatras level pun, and without the wink at all.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"DROP"

mat, Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Uncle Joe". Though it ties with "Katysong" - I am amazed how many people picked that one.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You know, this is actually easier than I thought it was going to be. I'll pick "Make Like Paper".

I think I'm gonna do a google search to see what I can find about Sun Kil Moon's current activities.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Strawberry Hill" is easily my favorite song of theirs (and they're my favorite band, so maybe it's just my favorite song period). "Summer Dress" comes close, so does the electric version of "Mistress."

SKM is up to nothing right now. Kozelek was playing solo in the States, but just cancelled his UK tour for "personal reasons."

michaeln (kid loki), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

sad reminders of
what seems years ago
warm southern sun shines through
station wagon windows
like solar energy
and when in the night
your brother turned to me and said,
"god, do you look evil in the dark"
that made me feel good
sad reminders of
midwest winter snow
cold catholic church
heaven in stained glass windows
like rock candy
and when on sunday
their daughter turned at me and said,
"mom and dad, is it a boy or a girl"
"mom and dad, is it a he or a she"
that made me feel good

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah, i have too many. but i do love "Evil". I have 2 favorite songs from every album. Or maybe 3 or 4! I wonder why i like them so much?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

definatly "have you forgotten" its addictive and makes me feel isolated and warm at the same time. just a great song.

j-dizzle, Friday, 11 March 2005 03:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm the same way, Scott -- they are extremely incongruous with other stuff I like, and I usually have very little time for earnest singer-songwriter types, but somehow that early RHP does it for me. I think Kozelek's sense of melody and knack for chord changes is subtly unorthodox and unique, and the songs work themselves into your head in a serious way.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'd also like to nominate "Sundays and Holidays" from the Shock Me EP. (But I could do a RHP: POXXX and still be saying, "But don't forget all these OTHER great songs....")

michaeln (kid loki), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah, they just hit me immediately.the voice. the guitars. it all works for me. i was honoured to write their rolling stone album guide entry. i really was. and i loved the sun kil moon album just as much as the rhp stuff.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one of the better reviews i have written in the last couple years was for that skm album. i posted a link to it on the skm thread and i'll post one here cuz i am shameless and i don't think many people read it cuz it's on a blog:

http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_thefreelancementalists_archive.html


oh, and cuz i like spreading the love.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Scott, I love those lyrics in "Evil" as well.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I went thru a breakup and then a breakdown with RHP on constant rotation, it was soul tearing and actually almost ruined them for me.. I can listen to them without sobbing nowdays though :)

Oh! An interesting bit of RHP trivia I noticed. The bridge verse of "Uncle Joe" always struck me as oddly-phrased. Til I worked out why:

And I am not very well read
And did you say that I will lose my house
And can you spare me of my pain?
And can you spare me of my tears
Oh Uncle Joe...

Re(a)d House Pain-tears. Har har! That card Kozolek.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

aren't they great, Trayce! funny and sad and full of eveything funny and sad about adolescence. "lord kill the pain" is like that too. holden caulfield would have loved that song.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wow, what a trickster!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The SKM album is as good as any of the RHP albums--and I like it better than a couple of them--but there's a definite transition (and, in my opinion, slight drop-off) between the Down Colorful Hill-Ocean Beach-era RHP and the post-Ocean Beach Kozelek stuff. (Original guitarist) Gordon Mack left the band after Ocean Beach, and Kozelek started working with a rotating cast of musicians; he loosened up the music a lot and seemed to spend less time on the lyrics. I mean, look at those two verses from "Evil": They're fucking poetry. There are no two verses (consecutive or otherwise) on the SKM record that even come close, and occasionally, they sound a little silly, as if he was just singing whatever popped into his head ("Come to me/my love/one more night/come on/'cause I don't want to be without/without you"). I'm not saying it's not beautiful and sincere, just that it sounds lazy by comparison.

michaeln (kid loki), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Trayce--I had never noticed that about those "Uncle Joe" lyrics, and I too always thought they sounded a little odd. Excellent observation. Thanks for pointing it out.

michaeln (kid loki), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I love Sundays and Holidays. Big fan of Japanese to English too. Actually a big fan of everything.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i think i like that too.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 4 August 2005 23:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

strawberry hill was always one of my favorites as well...always found it haunting and scary. i love RHP.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 5 August 2005 10:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm going to go out on a limb and make this a vote for Void. Of course Koz has written better lyrics and prettier tunes than this, but there's something about the slow, slow build and the FM-Rock guitar tone that just gets me every time. Love for Evil is well-documented above, and it would make a fine second place, if allowed (which it isn't in this thread, I know...)

Bill A (Bill A), Friday, 5 August 2005 11:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
i'm gonna have to pick only 2, because i really can't split 'katy song' and 'moments'

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 April 2007 15:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Incredible note gathered from Kozelek: "The chorus of Strawberry Hill ... was sung by a group of strangers we gathered from outside the Divisadero Street studio where we were recording."

-- nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:25 AM


SF folx, do you know which studio this was?

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Shit that song "Dragonflies" is amazing- I just listened to it for the first time while reading along to the lyrics that Chris V. posted up thread- fucking spine-chilling! And I've had the album for years!

ColinO, Friday, 27 February 2009 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Summer Dress

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Friday, 27 February 2009 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Anyone else gets a tiny bit annoyed when he rhymes "nice" with "nice" on Have You Forgotten?

Moka, Friday, 29 April 2011 11:29 (six years ago) Permalink

And my pick would be their cover of the Cars' "All Mixed Up", also one of the best musical recontextualizations I've heard.

Moka, Friday, 29 April 2011 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink

SF folx, do you know which studio this was?

― Steve Shasta, Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:10 AM (4 years ago)

I'm pretty sure there used to be a recording studio by where the Little Chihuahua is on by Page Street in one of the old Victorians. I used to get pizza at that Bus Stop pizza when I was a freshman in college and I remember one being around there. I used to live at Page @ Pierce at the time.

svend, Friday, 29 April 2011 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Sundays and holidays hits home hard when my wife got sick.

impeccable suit shit stained underwear (thebingo), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

And i started this thread long time ago

impeccable suit shit stained underwear (thebingo), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyone else gets a tiny bit annoyed when he rhymes "nice" with "nice" on Have You Forgotten?

no. find it more annoying that he is the thousandth person to lift that "fade into you" chord progression on the title track

such a weird, flawed record. i don't think i've ever even listened to it all the way through. in my estimation old ramon is a much better weird flawed record and yet with much more egregious lyrical moments

also why do rhp people fixate over katy song? overwrought pretentious lyrics...the only good part is towards the end where he runs that mantra into the ground,

dell (del), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

fade into you and blue guitar are both copped from a velvet underground song though

akm, Friday, 29 April 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

what song? i don't know velvet undergorned's music that well. i always think of it as knocking on heaven's door thing

dell (del), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Tonight: "Shadows". She didn't say anything I didn't already know, so I went home and put on Ocean Beach.

Mule, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

drop for me.

or katy

jed_, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:41 (five years ago) Permalink

grace cathedral park.

or katy.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:46 (five years ago) Permalink

strawberry hill is pretty amazing actually. not sure if i ever listened to it before. i don't understand why it is not on my ipod which has only the first ten songs from rollercoaster. have there been different cd editions? i can't check as i have the cd near frankfurt and i am in berlin now.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 26 February 2012 22:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't think there's been different editions, neither wiki or allmusic had anything about that. So no answer to your little mystery. Maybe your ipod was full?

Mule, Sunday, 26 February 2012 23:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Void, live @ Hultsfred 1997. I remember how disappointing the studio version seemed in comparison when Old Ramon finally dropped.

doug watson, Monday, 27 February 2012 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Discogs is a great place to find out about all of the versions of something.

I can never figure out if "Funhouse" is really great or really bad.

Evan, Monday, 27 February 2012 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Make Like Paper, yall. and like welcome to obvioustown but Have You Forgotten has to be one of the greatest singer-songwriter-y tracks released in my lifetime.

caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 27 February 2012 03:37 (five years ago) Permalink

most recent obsession is Between Days from Old Ramon tho

caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 27 February 2012 03:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Good stuff upthread about Strawberry Hill. Hadn't listened to it in gawd knows how long. That chorus is spectacular.

Still, though -- Wop-a-Din-Din.

john. a resident of chicago., Monday, 27 February 2012 04:39 (five years ago) Permalink

most recent obsession is Between Days from Old Ramon tho

aw man this song is super great

love the guitar tone throughout old ramon and then also on ghosts

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 27 February 2012 05:38 (five years ago) Permalink

"Take Me Out"

;_;

jed_, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

in response to a comment made a few posts upthread, i find Funhouse to be an astonishing commentary on nostalgia. soberingly despondent and engulfed in alien emotion, yet wholly atmospheric and grounded in memory -- a tribute to arbitrary snapshots of life and their meaning.

these days, i would put Dragonflies forward as the best representation of the impact this band has on me.

charlie h, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:00 (five years ago) Permalink

just listened to Funhouse and to add to the remarks i made just now, it's one of the shortest 9-minute journeys that i can think of. i mean it's slow, but not slow for slowness' sake, more as a means of zoning in for extended lengths on fragments of activity and emotion suspended in another time and place, like a slideshow set on crawl.

charlie h, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:14 (five years ago) Permalink

by "shortest", i mean it has me under its spell and i never pay attention to the playing time.

charlie h, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I meant musically, and was referring to many of the dissonant chord movements that appear during some bridges and elsewhere, like the heaviness of the song is making it hard for the notes to hit their marks. It would sound sloppy to someone without knowing Mark's ability as a guitar player. The love/hate comes from my enjoyment of it by myself but the awkwardness of making someone else sit through it with me, understanding how it sounds like it's trudging it's way through the nine minutes if you aren't paying close attention to it's intended mood. The point where the song begins to unravel is where the distortion comes in, or when the la's happen soon afterwards, and for a song with an already slow pace this part feels like walking through mud. Again, I love it normally but if you throw someone unfamiliar in the room with me, I am immediately sensitive to what makes it a chore to listen to.

Evan, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I also agree upthread about Have You Forgotten, this is the song that I discovered them with. It's one of those songs where I wish I knew how to arrange strings so I could transpose this for an orchestra to add heartbreaking swells behind him as he plays.

Evan, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Evan, to the uninitiated i'm sure Funhouse would be a very trying slog and a lot of hard work. it's kind of funny really -- i get a lot of emotional resonance from it, but never feel confronted or destabilised as i'm sure a lot of listeners do. i guess that that in itself is a testament to the impact of the song, that it turns people off or makes them feel uncomfortable to the extent that their mood or outlook is affected. i think it's interesting what you say about the end of the song and its means of rendering an already a-musical and unconventional soundscape even more jarring and bare. in many ways it's a retread of the structure of Katy Song, albeit with less humanity and warmth. i think Funhouse has some of the qualities that are representative of Rollercoaster as whole -- it's long, indulgent, sprawling and intermittently sloppy, but there's still the sense that every last inch of it needs to be there, laid bare just as it is. i can't imagine any of it missing.

charlie h, Thursday, 1 March 2012 07:45 (five years ago) Permalink

More great originals from me

Katy Song
New Jersey (either version depending on mood)
Have you forgotten
Grace Cathedra Park

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Ok sorry - pressed too early- big zzzs

Katy Song

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Okay, nabisco's post led me to listen to Strawberry Hill ~20 times in the past few days. Favorite part: the fuzzed out guitar that shows up on the "now for dinner" line. Could listen to that chorus for days and days. Actually wish the song were longer...

john. a resident of chicago., Friday, 2 March 2012 04:45 (five years ago) Permalink

the demo of "funhouse" does something a little more lively with the ending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xNJmtIx1k

you really wonder how it got the way it did on record. but i love the song; i think justin broadrick (from godflesh and jesu) has talked about how much he loves red house painters, and the last few minutes of "funhouse" are pure godflesh.

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:06 (five years ago) Permalink

wow, the demo is pretty cool and probably more of a palatable length for most people to accommodate.

what's everyone's opinion of Mother? for me, that was the most challenging song for me to approach on Rollercoaster. RHP never got more mopey than that.

i'm currently obsessing over River from Old Ramon. i think there might be an element of tribute to Neil Young at play. it's a deeply complex song, gentle and free-flowing as a whole, but somehow really dark with sporadic forays into unsettling and obscure territories. strikes me as a bit of a precursor to Duk Koo Kim.

charlie h, Saturday, 3 March 2012 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

holy shit, "Helicopter", what a sleeper of a song. it has actually been caving into my everyday thoughts quite a bit. i really enjoy the RHP songs that probe the symptoms of a problem in intense detail to the point that Koz riles himself up and emerges as a bit mentally imbalanced. "Uncle Joe" is a similar kind of song in that respect. the Bridge album is a bit undervalued, i think. it's basically one harrowing slow-burner after another.

charlie h, Friday, 16 November 2012 03:27 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I had never picked up that Bridge record until a few months ago and became obsessed immediately with it. "I Am A Rock" was in my head for days. The original version of that does not have the same effect on me.

Evan, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:50 (four years ago) Permalink

bridge is so great. was listening to it a few days ago, always forget how great "helicopter" is, and the full band version of "new jersey" >>>>>>>>> everything

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:10 (four years ago) Permalink

any band i have a long obsession with i eventually focus on their playing but man anthony koutsos is a great drummer.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:14 (four years ago) Permalink

don't really know how i want to express this but i love that this music, which is so slow and flooding, so often has a really intricate beat married to it that's also locking it into a specific direction

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:19 (four years ago) Permalink

He is really a great drummer though some of his parts are a bit too similar on a few tracks, but I do like that he consciously shaped a RHP drum sound in the same way that exists for the bass and guitar parts, too.

Evan, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 03:27 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Down Through, lovely chords in that song. I forget how much RHP sound like Rain Parade.

MaresNest, Friday, 15 March 2013 17:39 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

used to have a problem with Down Through because of the lyrics. but then i realised how effectively they offset the beauty of the music to create a sense of ambivalence and conflict of idealised and painful memories.

charlie h, Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:17 (four years ago) Permalink

anyway. this fucking band.

charlie h, Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:19 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

I think it's "Bubble" for me now

crüt, Friday, 8 September 2017 03:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was staying in a caravan on a headland in Cornwall in 2001. One night, after walking miles along the coast into Padstow (it was right in the middle of it being taken over by Rick Stein and attendant halfwits), I ended up in a boozer drinking with a couple of blokes who were stunned I'd not heard of Kozelek and who invited me back to their house to listen to RHP. The track I remember getting sunk in (through the haze - of drink and memory) was Smokey - the guitar tone, the languor, the edge-of-meaning of Kozelek's reluctant delivery, the oddly flat depths of it - and despite going backwards and forwards with Kozelek since, it's still the track that has the most impact on me. It's one of those tracks that's like dropping a time capsule pill: when I put it on, I can still access the onset of a hangover, see the cheap fake mahogany sideboard and hear the traffic outside.

So yeah, Smokey. I'd not heard that acoustic version before. Lovely.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i feel like the songs on old ramon tend to attach themselves to really specific times and places. whenever i hear "smokey" i'm always driving back to my apartment in reno from class, the highway covered in snow

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 8 September 2017 19:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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