Pulp: C.L.A.S.S.I.C.O.R.D.U.D?

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Sheffield:Sex City

FUCK YOU ENGLAND

rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Friday, 2 September 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

Somewhere in Toronto, a too-tall redhead is crying.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 2 September 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

Loads more post-Senior stuff coming into the sets.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

AMERICA

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

noted a difference between primavera and now was that Russell didn't leave the set during Sunrise...can't remember if he did during Hardcore.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Hey it would be really cool if Pulp curated an ATP in the states...right, right? That would be pretty cool...

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

yep that would be a dream come true for me personally.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Senior came back on for outro of Sunrise both at Primavera and at Reading the other day.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently he played violin on 'Wickerman' at Brixton too. OOOOh.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL. April 11. Tempted.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 January 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Just listened to We Love Life for the first time in absolutely ages... that outro to 'Sunrise' gets me every fucking time.

zip-a-dee-doo-dah, motherfucker! (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

And from me today in the Quietus...

http://thequietus.com/articles/14998-pulp-his-n-hers-review-anniversary

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

thanks for that Ned. 20 years hard to believe but will admit that i didn't get it until after their next album.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:25 (ten years ago) link

NB: Please do not read the ilx whilst listening to the recordings.

Kilgore Haggard Replica (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw the (world premiere of, apparently) the new doco at the Sydney Film Festival on Saturday night. Hadn't known until the opening titles that Russell properly left during the reunion, not just skipping the long-flight legs. It's a good movie, but isn't really about the band, at all; more about what it's like for the city of Sheffield to have the homecoming/farewell show of one of their best known bands taking place.

rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 12 June 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

holy shit. looks amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5lZHF01A_o

piscesx, Saturday, 28 June 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

what do we think about this

a total laugh package (s.clover), Monday, 17 November 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

This needs more Pulp and less kids reactions/random English fans/dance teams rehearsing/etc.

Also the opening mix of the live "Common People" sounds like it was performed on a Casio in a drain pipe.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link

Is there an actual Pulp documentary out there? Like w footage of music videos and performances?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link

it's brilliant this, way better than the recent hyped up pop/rock docs (Made Of Stone, Shut Up And Play The Hits etc)

there's a ton of other Pulp stuff; mini-docs etc. check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4fIxPQBvc

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

this new doc was utterly routine save for the kid in the DUDE shirt

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 05:49 (nine years ago) link

Classic, for 'Babies' and 'Common People'.

That's all I need by them

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

pulp have a lot going on and this docu reduces it all down to some v. obv elements of 'different class' -- like it would go well with some town full of laid off miner strippers and a boy who wants to dance and idk something about football?

a total laugh package (s.clover), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...
two years pass...

Christ, Freaks is such a strange record... on one hand, you can hear a very rough version of the band that they would eventually become but on the other, there's these bizarre tracks that are reminiscent of early Gorky's Zygotic Mynci(!) ... Jarvis' fake Morrissey vibrato on this record is hilarious, too.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Listening to Different Class right now for the first time in a long time, and while the likes of 'Common People' and 'Disco 2000' are starting to feel relatively fresh to my ears these days (they were both inescapable in the mid '90s), the tracks that are grabbing me this time around are the lesser cited deep cuts like 'Live Bed Show' and 'Underwear' ... I remember thinking at the time that 'Something Changed' was my least favourite of the singles released from this album, but now it's one of my absolute favourites, and 'F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E' sounds as great as ever.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Underwear is quite possibly their best song. Live 105 in the Bay Area gave it steady rotation in the fall of ‘95. First song that turned me onto Pulp.

LimbsKing, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

That's incredible! It wasn't released as a single here or anything, and I think half the album (or something like that) had been released as a single by the time it had run its course.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

It was a b-side of Common People fwiw

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

Different Class is perfect, just a towering achievement in songwriting. My only complaint is that "I Spy" might be a little too long? I don't know, that's really nitpicking.

On a theory note, these guys really love the IV-iv turnaround.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

Something I wrote about Underwear a couple of years back, with links to various live versions, etc. - https://pulpsongs.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/underwear/

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

aaah I haven't listened to this album in years. It reminds me so much of trips to London, hanging around in bars and clubs circa 96...
I think I remember passing in front of Bar Italia !
Anyway, I would have to listen to it again but iirc it was such a great album.
I remember particularly liking "E's & Wizz" and the over the top disco moment in "I Spy" !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

When I heard 'Disco 2000' last night, I was amazed at just how well it slotted in with all the new wave/synthpop I've been listening to a lot over the last few years. If I'd never heard the song before and you told me it had been released anywhere between 1977 and 1983 instead of 1995, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

If it weren't for the lyrics, you could convince me that Disco 2000 came out last week

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

disco 2000 doesn't sound like it was recorded in the early 80s wtf are you talking about turrican

the drum sound, the guitar tone, the clarity...

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

voodoo chilli otm, tho

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

i mean, i guess its not that far off from a de-funkified "my own way", but it sounds totally un-80s imo

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

defunkified "my own way" in terms of the beat or whatever

nevermind me, no reponse necc, i don't care anymore

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

It's okay, I didn't in the first place. You're wrong, anyway.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

In fact, generally speaking that particular era of UK guitar music were more influenced by the late '70s and early '80s than the '60s, which is what everyone seems to think. Aside from Oasis, whose influences are more early-mid '70s. There's more "'80s" in Pulp and Blur than folks realise or want to admit.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

Those cowards who don't dare to point out that britpop had influences that they freely admit in interviews

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

*britpop bands

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

Pulp formed in the 70s and active for the whole of the 80s so what are you on about?

everything, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

^ is implying that It sounds like Different Class or His 'n' Hers, when it doesn't.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link

Oh, and Britpop didn't exist.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 06:55 (six years ago) link

Also, Wings are influenced by the 60s

everything, Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:01 (six years ago) link

But yeah, 'Disco 2000' with its "disco" beat that a lot of British bands were utilising in the late '70s/early '80s, with its guitar riff that seems like it's been beamed directly from the late '70s Blondie song, vintage keyboards and a chorus that wouldn't have sounded out of place on a Dexys Midnight Runners track circa Too-Rye-Ay ... yeah, I'd say it fits in snugly.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:03 (six years ago) link

Yes, Wings are influenced by the '60s - thanks for that, Captain Obvious.

Pulp's early '80s work, although Cocker's voice is in place from the off, has a very different set of influences. It comes from a different place than the work which actually defines them.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:08 (six years ago) link

Disco 2000 seems like it was heavily influenced by Denim's 1st album especially "I'm Against the 80s" & "Here is my Song for Europe".

everything, Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:24 (six years ago) link


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