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I am trying to improve my Turkish pronunciation so that the dudes at the MFC don't laugh at me so much when I go to buy my pide and my ajvar and my Anatolian Breakfast.
― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Lots of Ege love here, but I'm a Monster Movie guy. Galactus 4 ever!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Soon Over, still. Ege next, then tago mago. But not only is Soon Over the most underrated Can album, it really doesn't even sound like any of the others, *and* it contains my favorite Can tracks "Chain Reaction"/"Quantum Physics". Also, now that I'm thinking of it, imo this is the record that "Future Days" hinted at, rather than the rest of the Future Days LP.
― Dominique, Thursday, 9 July 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Monster Movie more and more as time goes by.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 July 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I did right and voted for MM.
― nickn, Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
^ listen to what the man said
― Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2009 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link
delay 1968, and no foolin'.
― m the g, Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i voted for future days but it's really close with soon over babaluma to me, I could have easily picked that. in fact, I never even listen to the other Can albums
― akm, Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I've still never heard Delay 1968. I guess I should.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 July 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I have it but have only played it once. Not really that impressed but maybe I should try again.
― nickn, Friday, 10 July 2009 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link
It's definitely a partner to "Monster Movie"
― Mark G, Friday, 10 July 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Monster Movie is great though
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ "can fat people rock"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCrQ3ixSTNc
― gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Monday, 13 July 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Might be of interest to those reading/voting in this thread--I made a mix of extra- and post-Can stuff (1977-1984) with tracks from 17 different side projects, guest appearances, collaborations, etc. A lot of really great stuff, often (in my opinion) stronger than later Can stuff (which is often underrated itself):
Can – ‘The Church of Latter-Day Can, Book Two’ (Beyond Can, 1977-1984) 01 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Karussell” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:22) 02 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Zeni” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:38) 03 Czukay (with Liebezeit & Rebop Baah) – Cool in the Pool” – ['Movies,' 1979] (5:03) 04 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Without Desire” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (2:38) 05 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit & Rosko Gee) – “You Inspired Me” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (4:00) 06 Eurythmics (with Liebezeit) – “Take Me To Your Heart” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:35) 07 Eurythmics (with Czukay & Liebezeit) – “Never Gonna Cry Again” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:05) 08 Les Vampyrettes (Czukay & Plank) – “Biomutanten” (Edit) – ['Biomutanten' EP, 1981] (3:32) 09 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Experiments” – ['Freedom of Speech,' 1981] (3:34) 10 Liebezeit, Czukay & Jah Wobble – Trench Warfare” – ['How Much Are They?' EP, 1981] (4:50) 11 Czukay (with Liebezeit) – “Fragrance” – ['On the Way to the Peak of Normal,' 1981] (4:13) 12 Phew (with Liebezeit & Czukay) – “Fragment” – ['Phew,' 1981] (3:59) 13 Schmidt (with Bruno Spoerri) – “Toy Planet” – ['Toy Planet,' 1981] (3:04) 14 Schmidt (with Liebezeit, Karoli & Gee) – “Endstation Freiheit” – ['Filmmuzik Vol. 2,' 1981] (3:37) 15 Dunkelziffer (with Liebezeit) – “Strom” (Edit) – ['Stil Der Neuen Zeit' EP, 1982] (3:03) 16 Czukay, Jah Wobble, The Edge & Francois Kevorkian – “Snake Charmer” – ['Snake Charmer' EP, 1983] (4:07) 17 Gabi Delgado (with Liebezeit) – “Victim” – ['Mistress,' 1983] (3:30) 18 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “The Party” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (1:31) 19 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Loading Zone” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (3:50) 20 Dunkelziffer (with Suzuki) – “Watch On My Head” – ['In The Night,' 1984] (2:52) 21 Karoli & Polly Eltes (with Liebezeit) – “Yours & Mine” – ['Deluge,' 1984] (4:28) 22 Karoli & Polly Eltes – “Watch On My Head” (Edit) – ['Deluge,' 1984] (3:47) [Total Time: 78:37]
01 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Karussell” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:22) 02 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Zeni” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:38) 03 Czukay (with Liebezeit & Rebop Baah) – Cool in the Pool” – ['Movies,' 1979] (5:03) 04 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Without Desire” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (2:38) 05 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit & Rosko Gee) – “You Inspired Me” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (4:00) 06 Eurythmics (with Liebezeit) – “Take Me To Your Heart” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:35) 07 Eurythmics (with Czukay & Liebezeit) – “Never Gonna Cry Again” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:05) 08 Les Vampyrettes (Czukay & Plank) – “Biomutanten” (Edit) – ['Biomutanten' EP, 1981] (3:32) 09 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Experiments” – ['Freedom of Speech,' 1981] (3:34) 10 Liebezeit, Czukay & Jah Wobble – Trench Warfare” – ['How Much Are They?' EP, 1981] (4:50) 11 Czukay (with Liebezeit) – “Fragrance” – ['On the Way to the Peak of Normal,' 1981] (4:13) 12 Phew (with Liebezeit & Czukay) – “Fragment” – ['Phew,' 1981] (3:59) 13 Schmidt (with Bruno Spoerri) – “Toy Planet” – ['Toy Planet,' 1981] (3:04) 14 Schmidt (with Liebezeit, Karoli & Gee) – “Endstation Freiheit” – ['Filmmuzik Vol. 2,' 1981] (3:37) 15 Dunkelziffer (with Liebezeit) – “Strom” (Edit) – ['Stil Der Neuen Zeit' EP, 1982] (3:03) 16 Czukay, Jah Wobble, The Edge & Francois Kevorkian – “Snake Charmer” – ['Snake Charmer' EP, 1983] (4:07) 17 Gabi Delgado (with Liebezeit) – “Victim” – ['Mistress,' 1983] (3:30) 18 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “The Party” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (1:31) 19 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Loading Zone” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (3:50) 20 Dunkelziffer (with Suzuki) – “Watch On My Head” – ['In The Night,' 1984] (2:52) 21 Karoli & Polly Eltes (with Liebezeit) – “Yours & Mine” – ['Deluge,' 1984] (4:28) 22 Karoli & Polly Eltes – “Watch On My Head” (Edit) – ['Deluge,' 1984] (3:47)
[Total Time: 78:37]
If you don't know Liebezeit's Phantom Band, it's worth grabbing this just for an introduction to them (their first album is also up in full at my blog). Get the mix at Musicophilia and the Phantom Band's 1980 s/t LP here.
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link
if you don't want this. you have no business being on ILM.
― Hamildan, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link
it also means I don't have to buy that Eurythmics reissue to satisfy my curiosity. thanks.
― Hamildan, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link
That mix looks like a lot of fun. Roughly know the first half but hardly anything from the second half. God I love Flammende Herzen.
― willem, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome, thanks.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Echoing thanks.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Still Monster Movie for me.
― D. Vance Wimpole (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
that post can mix looks awes. i've heard (and love) 80% of that stuff, but will grab to hear the rest. here are a few things u should also track down. stuff w/Reebop Kwaku Baah and/or Rosco Gee (does that make me blasphemous?)
http://www.discogs.com/Unknown-Cases-Masimba-Bele/release/28572(afro cosmic)
http://www.discogs.com/Zahara-Flight-Of-The-Spirit/release/1358534(sorta jammy jazzy with fretless bass)
― A. Roddick City (jaxon), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Jaxon--
Thanks for the recommended LPs--far from blasphemous as far as I'm concerned, I love the contributions of Baah and Gee (though especially on that first Phantom Band record). That Unknown Cases album looks exciting!
Hamildan--
I'd like to think you're right--but given that even later Can stuff is generally trashed even by respectable geeks, I have to operate from the assumption that I'm slightly crazy to think everyone who sleeps on this stuff is slightly crazy ; ) But! Please don't let a mix of mine prevent you from making a purchase to support an artist! I'll admit I favor the Liebezeit-centric tracks on that Eurythmics album, but it's definitely an album worth hearing if you like that era generally. I didn't know there was a reissue, wonder if it's got any outtakes or b-sides or whatever. . .
Willem, Pfunkboy, Trip Maker--
I hope you dig it--no guarantees!
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
here's the unknown cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V7XaCpi05k
and here's a track from the zahara album. http://www.robotsinheat.com/temp/TotalDune.mp3
i've been meaning to start a rosko/reebop s/d thread forever. maybe tomorrow.
― A. Roddick City (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
o, apparently Unknown Cases is ex members of Dunkelziffer
― A. Roddick City (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Soundslike - Dont worry. I dig on the Can so much, I'll eventually buy the solo CDs. just working thought getting all the SACDs right now.
The best thing about late era Can is that you are always presently surprised, rather than disappointed. All gates are open has a classic Can groove.
also Holgers' gig at the roundhouse has made me venture further into solo can than just movies & Cannaxis.
― Hamildan, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link
The best thing about late era Can is that you are always presently surprised, rather than disappointed. All gates are open has a classic Can groove
On the money. I voted for 'Can' (1979) as I'm enjoying it so much at the moment. I can't understand the bad rep this recd has - surely anyone who really rates, say, Future Days, would love this album?
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 09:00 (fourteen years ago) link
kneejerk prog disdain in julian cope's krautrocksampler has cast a long shadow over the later stuff
― kamerad, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
"Can" doesn't have a bad reputation, "Out of Reach" does. Most people agree "Can" was a return to some sort of form.
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think any of their albums are particularly hated, apart from "Out of the Reach"... and, even then, hated by the band themselves mostly
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh Ok, maybe I'm mistaken. But the sleevenotes for the SACD version refer to it not being liked much by Canfans - haven't got it to hand, but I'll check later. I'm gonna have to go up to Fopp later and get Rite Time, I think!
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Who wrote the sleevenotes? I suppose, in 1979, no-one was very interested in a new Can album.
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I like "Can" better than Out Of Reach, Saw Delight or Flow Motion FWIW
― someone who is ranked fairly highly in an army of poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
It's good, but then it's got that "Can Can" crap at the end, that ruins it a bit
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I love Can Can. I'd rate Can and Saw Delight as the best 'late period' albums and Flow Motion probably the worst (although obv 'I Want More' is great). I haven't heard Out of Reach though - did that make it to SACD? I've never seen it.
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
No, the band don't want it re-released. It's not too good, but it's not terrible either.
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
'Can' would be top four Can albums for me, as long as you lop off the closing--I have to agree, "Can Can" is a pretty sad way to go out. But "Safe," that track is fantastic--especially the ominous swarm-of-locusts sound that slowly sneaks up through the track.
Speaking of late-Can, for any who're curious but haven't looked past 'Babaluma' (because of Julian Cope or whatever reason)--I also did a late-Can comp a while back, from the last 5 albums including 'Out of Reach' (which is almost as odd in its being-maligned-by-the-band as Kraftwerk re: their first several albums--just silly to be kept out of print, and definitely on par with at least 'Saw Delight' and 'Flow Motion'.)
Can – The Church of Latter-Day Can, Book One (1975-1979) 01. Can – Red Hot Indians [Landed, 1975] (5:38) 02. Can – Half Past One [Landed, 1975] (4:39) 03. Can – Smoke [Flow Motion, 1976] (5:20) 04. Can – I Want More [Flow Motion, 1976] (3:34) 05. Can – Animal Waves [Saw Delight, 1977] (15:30) 06. Can – Sunshine Day And Night [Saw Delight, 1977] (5:51) 07. Can – Give Me No Roses [Out of Reach, 1978] (5:21) 08. Can – One More Day [Out of Reach, 1978] (1:37) 09. Can – Serpentine [Out of Reach, 1978] (4:03) 10. Can – All Gates Open [Can, 1979] (8:19) 11. Can – Aspectacle [Can, 1979] (5:52) 12. Can – Safe [Can, 1979] (8:36) [Total Time: 74:20]
01. Can – Red Hot Indians [Landed, 1975] (5:38) 02. Can – Half Past One [Landed, 1975] (4:39) 03. Can – Smoke [Flow Motion, 1976] (5:20) 04. Can – I Want More [Flow Motion, 1976] (3:34) 05. Can – Animal Waves [Saw Delight, 1977] (15:30) 06. Can – Sunshine Day And Night [Saw Delight, 1977] (5:51) 07. Can – Give Me No Roses [Out of Reach, 1978] (5:21) 08. Can – One More Day [Out of Reach, 1978] (1:37) 09. Can – Serpentine [Out of Reach, 1978] (4:03) 10. Can – All Gates Open [Can, 1979] (8:19) 11. Can – Aspectacle [Can, 1979] (5:52) 12. Can – Safe [Can, 1979] (8:36)
[Total Time: 74:20]
I think on the whole I prefer the post-Can compilation, but there's a lot of great stuff on this one. [b]Get it here at Musicophilia[b]. (Both have streamable samples if you are too skittish to even download ; )
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Love "Give Me No Roses"!
― Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ACR totally ripped off that bassline from Aspectacle for one of their early-ish tracks. Can't bloody remember exactly which one though - Waterline possibly, or something off Sextet?
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey Soundslike, thx for those Church of Latter-Day Can mixes, had missed those the first time around. I'm definitely in the "don't know much beyond Babaluma" camp, so I'm looking forward to checking them out.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I gave another listen to Rite Time last night. It's not bad--Mooney makes the album, everybody else is pretty restrained.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't actually heard Out Of Reach in full or 'Can'. Must rectify that.is it ok to post links to Can bootlegs i found on a blog?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree, I prefer Can to Saw Delight and Flow Motion.
Have yet to track down the Rite Time remaster, though.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I quite like Saw Delight,Animal Waves is a track ive always liked.Im playing Out Of Reach now and quite enjoying it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Another vote for Delay 1968 here! Gonna spin it now!
Mooney >>>>>>>>> Suzuki!
I AM MALCOLM MOONEY!
― The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
there hasnt been a malcolm vs damo poll has there?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
There's no need for one. It's obvious, ain't it?
― The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
its obvious who would win
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i vote damo
― bong hitzvah (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The Can Live 71-77 set is pretty excellent-- I haven't heard it discussed too much for whatever reason.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't believe Landed only got a vote.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
Must say I don't often get the urge to listen to Landed. Saw Delight is much better IMO, although Animal Waves is let down by a rather dull bassline that doesn't really gel with the rest of the track. That said I got to dig Landed out soon. The later ones definitely do sound great remastered.
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
"Landed" is great.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
First side is awesome.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
also had original future days/tago mago pressings. polls results otm. my housemate is playing drums with damo in a fortnight. i ought to go...
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
all the annoying handwringing upthread about "bamyasi"'s meaning crucially misses that it is not an "i" but a dotless "i" in Turkish: bamyası
...but can't fault the anglophones for not picking up on that subtle nuance though.
Top 3 vote-getters are in my contention for desert island discs with order fluctuating between Ege/Tago at the top, Future Days is a step lower but still god-tier.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
Life just got more complicated: Can’s Live Shows Will Be Heard at Last, Thanks to a Bootlegger in Big Pantshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/arts/music/can-live-albums.html?campaign_id=53&emc=edit_ms_20210514&instance_id=30896&nl=louder®i_id=81891736&segment_id=58137&te=1&user_id=f8fdcfc45acdadaba09de99d8bc20460
― dow, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
POLLS just got more complicated
Pants just got bigger
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Absolutely love that they're on Bandcamp now because I never did get around to getting the remastered CDs from a decade back -- so I bought them through the site and now I have them both that way and properly streaming. (And per their Bandcamp page a few of those CDs were down to the last copies of whatever Mute US had around so hey.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
hopefully the quality is alright. I have the Live Box and it kicks ass but the recording is so grainy that I barely listen to it. hearing that the guy was walking around in some sort of Nathan Fielder-esque bootleg suit doesn't inspire confidence but they work a lotta magic with mastering these days...should be better than any of the boots out there I hope
― frogbs, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
it sounds great — genuinely surprised it's an amateur recording. maybe not exactly high definition, but it really puts you in the hall. Liebezeit is amazing on this, no surprise. unstoppable.
― tylerw, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
there's a clip, it sounds good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6bXpkbwzs
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
And speaking of their Bandcamp: the remaining albums are now all up as of today, including Unlimited Edition and the 40th anniversary Tago Mago:
https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/music
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link