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3 things: (i)Is there another album as totally fantastic as this one? (ii)Don't the audience like "The Musical Box"? (iii)Are there any other albums people can listen to 3 times in one day? As in, time to listen to 5 albums, and you pick the same one for the first three?

Anna Rose, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

that's what I do with most of the albums I like

some that I don't like too

Josh, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Diminishing returns theory - usually I play it once, then again with some of the tracks programmed out, then just maybe 4 or 5 tracks on continuous random play for a while

dave q, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

See, I luv prog but I Don't Know about Genesis. Firstly, Pink Floyd did a better job of camouflaging their less-than-amazing chops by working on the textures and FX etc. whereas Genesis just seemed like they wanted to be Yes but weren't as good. (Everyone knows Banks was no Emerson, but even Rick Wright was better.) Secondly, I usually have no time whatever for that 'middle-class public schoolboy' accusation that only Brits are confused enough to care about, but Genesis is the only band whose cosy brand of cluelessness actually irritates me. Thirdly, Peter Gabriel's voice is a prissy version of Perry (equally clueless but at least shameless about it) Farrell's

dave q, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I really, really tried to like Gabriel-era Genesis. I do like Peter Gabriel's solo stuff (not as much as I used to, but still). But, for the most part, I just can't stomach his Genesis stuff. Except for "I Know What I Like In Your Wardrobe" (which is really just a nice pop- song mildly seasoned with prog) and "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" (and that only for the opening piano solo). To my ears, Gabriel-era Genesis is only interesting because of their heretofore-impossible combination of tweeness and bombast and po' faced earnestness, and also sounds really really cheesy in a way no other prog band sounds (even by early-Seventies standards). Like trying to perform a piano sonata on a cheap Casio synth.

At least some of the Phil Collins-era stuff worked on an earcandy/stadium rock level.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My favourite thing about the album is that, for the most part, the songs are played so much better than on the original three albums. Phil Collins, say what you will about his solo career, was/is a fantastic drummer that elevates the material. Unfortunately, his work on Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot was restrained and poorly mixed. He didn't play on Trespass; after listening to "The Knife" from "Live", the original is practically unlistenable because the drumming is so poor.

Genesis in the early '70s may have seemed like the poor cousins of Yes and ELP to some degree, but I think that has more to do with being an indie band with no recording budget: their first three records suffer sonically. On the other hand, unlike Yes and ELP, Genesis didn't fall into the solo-wanking for wank's sake trap. Hackett, Banks and Rutherford were songwriters first, not virtuoso soloists to the same degree of Howe, Wakeman, Emerson et al. Taste over technique is not necessarily a bad thing.

Matt MacInnis, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'Taste over technique is not necessarily a bad thing'

Are you aware of why people listen to prog in the first place? Prog without self-indulgent soloing = Asia! In fact, I wish somebody would issue an ELP compilation with kybd and drum solos ONLY, no songs please!

dave q, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Not that I mind their songs, of course! (To illuminate my earlier coment re cosy cluelessness - PF wrote (bad) lyrics re war and insanity, ELP wrote (funny) lyrics about armadillos and blowjobs - and Genesis did stilted, trivial lyrics about weeds and snowmen! Enough said!)

dave q, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess you could say there are some prog bands I like a lot but I'm not necessarily a fan of prog-rock as a genre.

Who was it that said (paraphrasing) progressive rock was a rebellion against three-minute songs about love by writing twelve-minute songs about nothing?

Matt, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone knows Banks was no Emerson, but even Rick Wright was better.

Surely this is a joke?

Joe, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Genesis was the most purposefully restrained out of the three (Yes, ELP, Genesis). I think of it as a continuum: 'larger-than-life', virtuosic abandon (the most popular example being ELP) <----> emphasis on form downplaying virtuosity (the most popular example being Pink Floyd).

Or as Edward Macan put it, "If ELP were the Richard Wagner of progressive rock, Genesis were the movement's Mozarts".

Joe, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The only song by Genesis I rilly got into was "Carrot Rope".

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh come off it Dave q, my covers band plays "Breathe/time" & "Shine on you Crazy Diamond" by Pink Floyd, and "I know What I Like" and "The Lamia" by Genesis. Tony Banx skillz0rz are way higher that Rick "let's see just how long we can hold that Gmin chord for" Wright. I really like the first few Genesis albums, precicely because the shitty production & rough playing gives it a really edgy sound. Genesis were playing at the very edges of their abilities JUST LIKE THE STOOGES and (IMO) that's almost always a good sound. I really like "Genesis Live", for the reasons noted above (gnarly sound etc) but I haven't actually got a copy right now. I always wondered if that was a whole gig, or is there more of it unreleased somewhere?

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Genesis Live was recorded on February 24th (Free Trade Hall, Manchester) and 25th (De Montford Hall, Leicester), 1973. There's probably some additional material floating out there from those gigs. Disc 3 of their first boxset has additional material from later that same year (October) from the Rainbow Theatre...

Joe, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sterling that was brilliant.

John Darnielle, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I have loved Genesis Live for each and everyone of the 27 or so years I have owned it. To Answer 'Anna' s question in reverse order.

iii No You can listen to this one again and again. I don't actualy like England or Lamb Lies Down much. Tresspass is mainly poorly recorded and the songs week. The studio versions of Nursery and Foxtrot both have weak tracks where Genesis go all mideval and dull.

ii Are there other albums that bear sequential play? Well many prog albums,esp ones by Yes, ELP and Pink Floyd need to be listened to in context, with the listener willing to engage (and even welcome) the stereotypical Progisms and I dont always do this. Fragile and Relayer are fine albums, but I wouldn't think they can suit all moods. Topographic Oceans can't, maybe Close to the Edge can. The first three VDGG albums (pawn, least, h to he) are pretty close to Genesis anyway, the three mid 70s KC albums (larks, starless, red) can (obv). I can do this with Hawkwind's DoRemi FaSo LaTido - but that may be just me.

Outwith Progrock (but still in modern popular idiom) Only really Closer (but not Unknown Pleasures) can bear whatever the mood listening - its no comment on how good they are.

i I think there are lots of albums as fantastic as this, from all sorts of genres. Its the lack of some of Progs worst excesses that makes Live special. There is a widely available bootleg video of 74 era Genesis live (ie slightly but not much later) which really brings home how out of the loop they were (The albums were minor hits only). Somebody above says "DIY" and thats spot on.

Alexander Blair, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Got an advance of the forthcoming Live 1973-2007 Rhino box in today's mail. It includes the 1973 Live album, as well as Live at the Rainbow, also from 1973 and with two previously unreleased tracks ("Cinema Show" and "The Battle of Epping Forest"), five tracks from L.A. circa 1975, Seconds Out, Three Sides Live and The Way We Walk.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 29 August 2009 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

that set is a bewildering fuck off considering they didn't put on Suppers Ready that was cut from Live, and included crap from the archive box they already released.

akm, Saturday, 29 August 2009 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

If it is any consolation, "the crap from the archive box" has fewer Gabriel overdubs this time around.

Gabble Ratchet, Sunday, 30 August 2009 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

We need a v-chip on here that edits out every time I moan about "Epping Forest".

a blight on pop that ruined British indie for several decades (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 August 2009 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

those didn't bother me that much, it's just lame that they have better stuff, in great quality, that they didn't put on here. why?

akm, Sunday, 30 August 2009 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

for instance: what's known as "musica", a show from the Duke tour that they have in soundboard quality. sure you can get it in unofficial circles but if you're compliling your live stuff, just put it on there! They finally located the masters for Genesis Live and skipped Suppers Ready, a track whose intended inclusion on this album was all hushed up for a long time until test pressings with it on there appeared? It's not the best version ofthe song but they may as well put it out.

akm, Sunday, 30 August 2009 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Genesis were fantastic back then, but I don't care about live albums at all.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 30 August 2009 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

I don't care about live albums at all.

Not even Seconds Out? More than any other album, that represents to me the essence of Genesis. Exclude that from your take on Genesis and you've got a very incomplete picture indeed.

anagram, Sunday, 30 August 2009 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm a little thrown by that. Three Sides Live is pretty weak, and I loathe the studio albums post-Genesis (and all but two or three songs from that one), but I listen to Genesis Live more than any of the contemporaneous studio discs.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 30 August 2009 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

The drumming on the live "Musical Box." The cymbal shit is next level.

SongOfSam, Sunday, 8 April 2012 21:18 (nine years ago) link

unaccompanied bass pedal solo imo

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:30 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Musically it's great, but I wish I hadn't looked this up & seen Peter Gabriel in Genesis now :-/

StanM, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:34 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Some of you are going to die ;_;

StanM, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:08 (seven years ago) link

What IS it with this album? Tried to get into the studio albums but completely failed to - dated and pretentious, bah. But this, this mesmerising masterpiece, I can listen to this once or twice a day for weeks on end (even during new Burial EP or Arcade Fire times).

StanM, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:21 (seven years ago) link

listening to Seconds Out now - this is probably my favorite of their live records. perhaps heresy but I love Phil Collins taking on "Suppers Ready"!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 02:56 (seven years ago) link

So do I. That was the album and song that made me a Genesis freak.

jmm, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 03:01 (seven years ago) link

I still like that version more than the ones on Foxtrot and Genesis Archive. Phil's smoothness fits the song better than Gabriel's bark.

jmm, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 03:09 (seven years ago) link

yeah - I just wrote a bit on Wind & Wuthering here in which I kinda realize that Phil wasn't really a downgrade

the incredible second half of "Cinema Show" is also ace

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 05:29 (seven years ago) link

Great piece. It's impressive that in 1976, they could still make a record as totally confident and casual as Wind & Wuthering. There's not a trace of strain over the prog-rock crisis on that album.

jmm, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 15:55 (seven years ago) link

Phil I see as being a lateral move. Somehow I don't think that he could pull off "The Battle of Epping Forest" (not sure if he ever attempted it).

jmm, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:06 (seven years ago) link

during my brief all-prog phase in high school I ran with a crowd that considered no-Gabriel era The Beginning Of The End - really enjoyed reading a clear-eyed take on Wind and Wuthering even if every time I try to revisit Genesis I feel like my departure from them was permanent and I can't ever really get back inside

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:38 (seven years ago) link

That "Daddy, you promised!" bit sours me on the album every time.

They did "White Mountain" on the '76 tour. Phil's thin melodic voice made it sound especially silly — there was some combination of Gabriel's rasp and his aura of lunacy that made the words he sang seem almost meaningful.

SongOfSam, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Somehow I don't think that he could pull off "The Battle of Epping Forest" (not sure if he ever attempted it).

I don't think he did and you're probably right, but I would've said that about "Supper's Ready" too. Never heard the '76 band do "White Mountain", but that's kind of a ridiculous song anyway, isn't it?

Re-listening to some of this I'm astounded by how much of both W&W and Spot the Pigeon draw off the second disc of The Lamb, in particular the bits that I was always bored by. I wonder if they would've included any of that stuff had the storyline not been so long.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:14 (seven years ago) link

"All in a Mouse's Night" a bit of a let-down on W&W, "Epping Forest" no great loss in any situation. kinda feel like if they'd made a W&W a couple of years later it wd've been perfect

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:19 (seven years ago) link

the gloss and distance they're on the way to acquiring on W&W might as well be a different band to the sludgey doom of Genesis Live tho

the five people you meet in Hedon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2013 16:22 (seven years ago) link

"All in a Mouse's Night" was my favorite song on it the first time I listened to it. That's the one that everyone seems to say would work better with Peter but I love the way Phil sings the main melody line ("come on baby, let the poor thing go"). Also the story itself isn't very interesting. My main point through all that is that even if Peter does some pretty amazing things (especially on The Lamb) I feel like Phil serves the actual songs a bit better. W&W having three instrumental tracks really says a lot about the direction the band was going (and pulled back on)

frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2013 17:38 (seven years ago) link

W&W is mainly let down by cloudy mix and production (the only case where I think the remix/remasters bettered the original), always felt like there was a veil over the music or a blanket on the speakers. The second side of the album is tremendous.

akm, Monday, 23 December 2013 14:56 (seven years ago) link

That Ylvis song is basically just a Genesis rip-off.

jmm, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Could be bullshit but I heard a radio DJ last week say that Collins and Gabriel are in talks for a real Genesis reunion...

Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:48 (seven years ago) link

They're always in talks. Genesis may be the only huge act constantly breaking up and reuniting where every member old and new is still friends.

I thought Phil could not play drums?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:53 (seven years ago) link

I have heard Phil can't drum from a whole bunch of people. Didn't know Genesis were all still friends though, doesn't Gabriel routinely refuse to sign off on reissue extras & stuff?

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:55 (seven years ago) link

Money talks.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Gabriel recently acknowledged recently that them all being still alive might be good reason to consider playing together once more

PaulTMA, Friday, 27 December 2013 00:54 (seven years ago) link

collins recently returned to drumming.

akm, Friday, 27 December 2013 01:11 (seven years ago) link

i have a ticket for the SF show I need to unload (show is on Monday), I'm going to be out of town. mr schwitterz?

akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:53 (three years ago) link

The Musical Box are awesome! What set are they doing?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:03 (three years ago) link

i wish akm! ill be outta town too.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (three years ago) link

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (three years ago) link

The best one I saw them do was when they had a bald left-handed drummer who sang like Phil! Apparently they got him from (shock) a Phil tribute band.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:10 (three years ago) link

they're doing both the black and white sets of the selling england by the pound tour. which is great; but I've seen them do those three times already so I'm not broken up about it. I did see them do the Lamb a few years ago and it was pretty much everything I'd hoped for. I hope they do it again.

akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:56 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:57 (three months ago) link

Wow, that's incredible quality.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:42 (three months ago) link

Amazing. The description of the restoration is incredible too; I'd love to see some of the outtakes where the AI thinks the curtains are made of hair. I imagine in a decade there'll be a fully immersive VR version of clips like these.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:24 (three months ago) link

whoa, that's unbelievable. kinda want to see what the original footage looked like.

funny how the camera barely captures Steve. you almost forget he was in the band. you can hear him though

also: was Phil Collins the sexiest man in prog in the mid-70s? or does Peter Hammill take the crown?

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:33 (three months ago) link

that is some astounding clean up work. There are really very few film clips of this period (shepperton studios is the famous one) and the quality of them has been getting better and better every year as more people do restorations on them.

akm, Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:53 (three months ago) link

incredible... can't wait to see more old stuff being restored like this

StanM, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:43 (three months ago) link

Damn, that is incredible.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (three months ago) link

yeah that's the most exciting part of this to me. imagine a Magma or Can concert film like this

frogbs, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (three months ago) link

Original footage, FYI.

dinnerboat, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:19 (three months ago) link

Pity half of 'Supper's Ready' is edited out. Still, fantastic stuff.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:50 (three months ago) link

Saw this on the Hoffman board, can only hope it is true and photos may one day emerge:

Peter Gabriel's sister was a teacher at my primary school in the late 70s/early 80s. We had the Slipperman costume used in one of our school plays!

PaulTMA, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:14 (three months ago) link

Let's gooooooo

J. Sam, Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:45 (two months ago) link

why do I feel the tickets are gonna be like $300 apiece

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:07 (two months ago) link

lol because they will be? on the low end?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:19 (two months ago) link

also lol at the "?" in the tour name.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:20 (two months ago) link

Third, sad lol that the little Instagram announcement in that piece afaict uses the recorded versions of those songs instead of current live recordings/rehearsals. I did find these clips, though:

Which has the band rehearsing, Phil playing some drums and ... Chester also there? But I suspect this upcoming tour will probably be mostly Phil's son on drums.

And this, showing the realities of Phil trying to hit certain notes:

And a very Spinal Tap moment:

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:28 (two months ago) link

Actually, no idea when these rehearsals are from, maybe 2007?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:30 (two months ago) link

they're pros with infinite money so I'm sure they'll cobble together a decent show I just don't

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:56 (two months ago) link

phil's not playing drums, bummer, but obviously he just must not be able

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:12 (two months ago) link

XXP Josh that is taken from a long-form doc about the last reunion, which is pretty entertaining and has some very potent Spinal Tap moments.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:10 (two months ago) link

I signed up for the pre-sale this morning. It's been 35 years since the last time I saw genesis play (also in a hockey arena). then after watching some of the rehearsal clips, i realized that attending this show would probably depress me more than anything... make me wonder how many more years until I'm not able to stay on my feet for 90 minutes. So $600 saved there, I guess?

enochroot, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:59 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I thought they were great on the 2007 tour, but Phil did a very short solo tour a couple of years ago, and I thought clips from that were super sad.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:16 (two months ago) link

ive never managed to see genesis live which is kind of insane considering how important they have been to me, so I want to do this, but dunno if I'm going to make it out to the east coast in the middle of fucking winter.

akm, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:05 (two months ago) link

I saw them at Knebworth in 1992, a little while after my VERY INTENSE teenaged obsession with them had cooled into respectful nostalgia, and while the stuff off We Can't Dance was mostly a drag, the old epics medley at the end was great (cannot remember if Phil had outgrown all that Blues Brothers bullshit during Turn It On Again yet)

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:34 (two months ago) link

This fella does a ton of 4K restorations (Cure, Pets, Madge, Bowie, Kate Bush.. ) they’re all pretty amazing. Someone should should do Tom Waits’ Big Time as that never even saw a DVD release.

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 11:17 (two months ago) link

getting a 404 there, anyone else?

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:25 (two months ago) link

Same here but I'm guessing it's the Bataclan 4k restoration shared above?

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:58 (two months ago) link

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:04 (two months ago) link

InterlacedGeek is the username of the above YouTube account.

YouTube really is hopeless when it comes to linking people’s accounts. I bet their tech hasn’t changed in ten years

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:06 (two months ago) link

Does this work?

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:08 (two months ago) link

Nope no it doesn't

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:08 (two months ago) link

Here it is, 4K:

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:11 (two months ago) link

A friend texted me this morning (something like "Dude, Genesis! You in?") and I told him I just couldn't do it. There have been a few beloved acts I've seen too late in their career which I probably should have skipped, since they left such a bad taste in my mouth. This tour, with Phil in a chair, supposedly backing vocalists for the first time, tickets that start at something like $300 for the nosebleeds (pre fee?) and I just couldn't do it. It'll likely be the last chance to see the group, but the way I figure it, I *did* get to see the group a few times, and this is not it. This is just a group of people that used to be in Genesis.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 May 2021 00:43 (two months ago) link

Same story here. My high school friend, who took me to my first concert, which happened to the Invisible Touch tour, got a bunch of tickets and is trying to talk me into it. Front row seats were $1900, but he got 4 in the rafters for $750. If I was in the same city as him, I'd probably go just for nostalgia's sake (and would probably come away disappointed).

BTW, the week before Genesis plays, The Musical Box is coming to town (playing "A Genesis Extravaganza, Volume 2"), and those tickets start at $63.

enochroot, Friday, 7 May 2021 01:29 (two months ago) link

Please tell me that's $750 all in and not each ticket.

electrical wizard (Matt #2), Friday, 7 May 2021 01:56 (two months ago) link

$750 all in

enochroot, Friday, 7 May 2021 02:18 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Genesis live, Paris Bataclan 1973 long version, 16mm master in 4k

this high def youtube rip is incredible

flopson, Saturday, 17 July 2021 16:50 (one week ago) link

the unofficial visual remasters of this material keep getting better and better

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link

I've probably linked it before here but this guy is doing amazing restoration work on prog and art-rock films, things that are otherwise unavailable in this quality (he has an amazing restoration of Laurie Anderson's Home of the Brave, which still hasn't gotten an official HD release)

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:22 (one week ago) link

well that didn't work. But the account name is BillFilm; search for BillFilm Genesis and all of that will come up.

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:23 (one week ago) link

MaresN3st's link (3 Months ago, April 15, scroll up a bit) has some technical information

StanM, Saturday, 17 July 2021 18:22 (one week ago) link

BillFilm says he has overdone the noise reduction on the Shepperton '73 footage and I agree:

vs the original:

StanM, Saturday, 17 July 2021 18:28 (one week ago) link

Overdone the compression/multi-band limiting too by the sounds of it.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:05 (one week ago) link

The drums sound amazing and the picture is really crisp in that 1973 Paris clip. I kind of wonder if Steve Hackett slept with a cameraman's girlfriend or something, though.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 July 2021 14:27 (six days ago) link

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