Worst Beach Boys Song on Holland - Part 5 in an Ongoing Series

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The end (unfortunately) of the Chapin/Fataar era. Shouldn't have let those guys go, imho (the Carl Wilson-produced Flame album from 1970 is great, good example of what these guys brought to the band). Pretty fantastic album from start to finish, featuring possibly Mike Love's finest moment with "Big Sur". Low points: Al Jardine's narration and Brian's unfortunate fairy tale (which sounds like it features a pre-South Park Mr. Hanky)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Mount Vernon and Fairway (A Fairy Tale) 6
California Saga: The Beaks of Eagles 2
California Saga: Big Sur 1
Leaving This Town 1
Funky Pretty 0
Only with You 0
The Trader 0
California Saga: California 0
Steamboat 0
Sail On, Sailor 0


High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

The Beaks of Eagles and the Fairy Tale are both pretty hopeless. Voting for the Fairy Tale.

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

The end (unfortunately) of the Chapin/Fataar era.

The live album's after this?

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Fairy Tale the obvious choice but can it be counted as part of the album proper?

fit and working again, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'll vouch for Beaks Of Eagles - think I've said it on ILM before, but it's all about the connotative backing harmonies that swoop and soar around the monologue.

Wish Mount Vernon wasn't on here, it's not part of the album and it's not even good in a funny way. I've listened to it a few times and it doesn't even make any sense.

Discounting Mount Vernon, I think I'm gonna vote for Funky Pretty as it's the only one I can't remember.

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

This is a really solid album through and through I reckon though.

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

"Funky Pretty" is awesome!

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Voting Leaving this Town which drags the album down with its length.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

You bastards have got me seeking out a copy of this now, crims!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_in_Paradise

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the live album after this is really good, features Fataar/Chapin's "We Got Love" (which was bumped from this album, perhaps unfairly, in favor of "Sail on Sailor"). These polls are about the studio album though.

I debated including the fairy tale - I mean it was included with the original LP so it does belong, in a way. I agree its pretty uniformly terrible - its actively annoying to listen to.

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

also Funky Pretty is great yeah wtf - no voting for that!

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Are we not going to do "Keepin the Summer Alive"? That, in my opinion is the last true Beach Boys album before they all died or splintered off and it is actually defensible in many ways.

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry about "Funky Pretty", I just don't remember it off the top of my head!

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

the instrumental version of "fairy tale" is the worst song in the good vibrations box set.

abanana, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Worst song, I'm not sure. But "Only With You" is def. the best.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Are we not going to do "Keepin the Summer Alive"? That, in my opinion is the last true Beach Boys album before they all died or splintered off and it is actually defensible in many ways.

I wasn't planning on it. Mostly because a) I've never heard it/don't own it, and b) (if we wanna get technical) Dennis isn't on it, so its disqualified on the grounds of not including a key member. But yeah I can see how it can be considered the last legitimate release - everyone was still alive and involved (to varying degrees)

Cover is so totally WTF:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/KTSACover.jpg/200px-KTSACover.jpg

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

anyway I'm downloading it now, will maybe poll it later

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

"Mount Vernon And Fairway". Good idea, horrible execution.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

huh you know I gotta say Keepin the Summer Alive is not as terrible as I was expecting - there's something kind of off about it, the production seems rather tin-eared, but there is tons of great singing on it, even if the songwriting is pretty boring/uninspired (none of the really ridiculous "high concept" stuff that showed up on their late 70s material is present). I'd definitely say its better than MIU

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

"Goin' On" is pretty great -- and the vocal riff is stolen from Smile...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

megalolz

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

LOOOOOL 80s! I want to go in a zorb ball in the sea!

the next grozart, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'm increasingly falling for this record. My copy is on vinyl, but I love the production on this — all the Moog basses and whirring synth sounds on tunes like "The Trader," "Funky Pretty" (which has a great tag, btw) and "Steamboat," IIRC.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 15 May 2009 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 17 May 2009 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 18 May 2009 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

ooh biggest vote-getter yet!

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 May 2009 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

who voted for big sur! gosh

iatee, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 04:16 (twelve years ago) link

the outtake version is like 100x better, but the holland version is still one of the best things on here

iatee, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Saturday, June 9, 2012
BRIAN WILSON COMES TO MY HOME
during the making of holland,i became friends with marilyn ,brians wife.one day they both came to my house,i then lent brian my trusty little Uher tapedeck, so he could record stuff at his (rented) house.

when they were finished and left holland, i got my tape deck back, and on the reel that was still on there, was a snippet of a song, that they never recorded.

here is that snippet...

https://rapidshare.com/files/4085215737/WALLOFTAPES.brian_in_holland.mp3

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:44 (nine years ago) link

yeahhh, saw that -- i think i'd heard it before, maybe from the same dude? he seems to be slightly crazy, but he's got some amazing tapes! the song is an old folk song, i think, i've heard a jazzy version of it i think?

tylerw, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:01 (nine years ago) link

I hadn't heard this particular outtake before - I've heard plenty of in-studio stuff but this seemed like a rare glimpse into Brian's actual songwriting process, you hear him fumbling around for phrases, trying different stuff out (always with those pounding triplets/8th notes lol)

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:03 (nine years ago) link

closest point of comparison I can think of is the Cocaine Sessions actually haha

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:04 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYBoYdc17Tw

just came across this version, never heard of it before. v weird explicit drug refs in the lyrics (which I think are different in the Boys' version...?)

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:59 (eight years ago) link

wiki sez :
... failed supergroup called KGB, from the initials of Ray Kennedy (co-writer of "Sail On, Sailor"), Barry Goldberg on keyboards and Bloomfield on guitar. The band had a rhythm section of Rick Grech on bass and Carmine Appice on drums. Grech and Bloomfield immediately quit after its release, stating they never had faith in the project. The album was not well received, but it did contain the standout track "Sail On, Sailor". Its authorship was credited only to "Wilson-Kennedy", and had a bluesy, darker feel, along with Ray Kennedy's original cocaine related lyrics.

this was in '74, so after Holland had already come out. I guess this song has been covered quite a bit, apparently.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:02 (eight years ago) link

You bastards have got me seeking out a copy of this now, crims!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_in_Paradise

also omg at this

The rest are original numbers, all containing both titular and lyrical references to summer and/or surfing, with the exception of the Transcendental Meditation-influenced "Strange Things Happen". The quasi-rap number "Summer of Love" was originally intended to be a duet with Bart Simpson for a planned Simpsons movie.The song was instead used in an episode of Baywatch.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:21 (eight years ago) link

fucking incredible Mike Love o-face at 0:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50U_07i5z0Y

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:25 (eight years ago) link

Is that even the same song? Other than the melody and chord changes, it's almost completely different.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:02 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

This album is so great and the California Saga is top tier BBs.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:52 (one week ago) link

very surprised and sad that Beaks of Eagles and Big Sur got voted here. I love them. I love this whole "let's grow beards and read Steinbeck, Jeffers and Thoreau and get into ecology and man's place in nature" phase of the Beach Boys. Anyone know what or who made this happen? I'm guessing Jardine

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:55 (one week ago) link

The Maharishi.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:46 (one week ago) link

Love The Trader

Yes, Jardine was and still is active for environmental causes.
It's bewildering that the original version of the record (before they had "Sail On Sailor") opened with "Steamboat"! A fine song, but very slow and murky for a first track.
I'd have voted for "Only With You" as the worst, and it's passable.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:17 (one week ago) link

Brian Wilson purportedly loves Steamboat

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:38 (one week ago) link

It's my favourite Dennis Wilson song (never having heard Pacific Ocean Blue), though he doesn't sing it.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:39 (one week ago) link

Not into "Only With You". Not really into any of those throaty Dennis Wilson cuddle blubbers

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:39 (one week ago) link

"Only With You" is awesome, a Mike+Dennis co-write! What are the chances?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:39 (one week ago) link

Sung by Carl not Dennis?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:40 (one week ago) link

but yeah, Steamboat would have been a weird opener. Could have worked, just drifting in like it does.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:40 (one week ago) link

huh, I could have sworn it was a Dennis song (Only With You), but you're right - he has a writers credit but it's Dennis.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:41 (one week ago) link

Carl. I meant Carl. Fuck.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:41 (one week ago) link

Yes, Carl sings both Dennis songs on this.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

Leaving This Town is so great but it's more of a Fataar/Chaplin joint. Always found it odd that they recruited these two musicians who don't really sound anything like the Beach Boys

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link

I'd love to have heard a Stevie Wonder cover of Leaving This Town.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:45 (one week ago) link

"Leaving This Town" is great, what really puts it over is the fade-out vocal tag in the last 30 seconds or so.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:46 (one week ago) link

(xxp) Their band were signed to Brother Records, so I suppose they were around. Notwithstanding the fact that Fataar was an excellent drummer and Chaplin had a good voice.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:49 (one week ago) link

oh sure, great musicians, but it was an interesting decision, if only commercially, to do this at that stage. i guess it was a choice between that and splitting up or just becoming the oldies act they'd turn into with 15 Big Ones

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:54 (one week ago) link

The Beach Boys have made a lot of off-the-wall decisions over the years. Like moving en masse to the Netherlands, I mean...

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:55 (one week ago) link

holy shit bad takes itt 12 years ago... the instrumental of mount vernon is incredible! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uio_cnWZMsM brian discovers the miniomoog! beaks of eagles is a friggan nightmare! leaving this town is ok but too much of an elton rip.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:58 (one week ago) link

haha, that music is pretty cool actually. never heard it on its own before

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:02 (one week ago) link

first part of 'The Trader' is kind of painful. Carl sounds like he's straining, the drums are lumpen and the piano/moog/guitar/harmonies/brass is overbearing. But once it goes into the "Making it softly / Like the evening sea" section it becomes one of my favourite songs of that era.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 10:19 (three days ago) link


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