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i'm in the market for new headphones, preferably ones that are:

- between $50-$80
- over the ear
- in a store like best buy or something (not a true necessity i guess but i dont love buying things online)

i've bought like 5 pairs of headphones in the past 3 years so i want a pair that are durable. also i don't have an ipod so i don't care if they make me look like a bug since they're just for in-home use.


triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

post in here

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

koss portapro

elan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh shit, those aren't expensive enough for you.

elan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

well if they're good but less than $50 i dont really care

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

i just figured good headphones were around that price range - i've always bought shitty in ear ones

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

best resource for these decisions:


matinee, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

JVC HANC80 Folding Noise Cancelling Headphones

^^on my second pair of these. pretty cheap, too.

Mr. Que, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Grado SR-60 are pretty nice for the money.

svend, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Everything I've read and heard about the Grado SR-60's has been A+ super positive. They'd be the ones I'd buy in that price range.

Love is a Battletoad (circa1916), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

(probably won't be able to find them easily in stores though)

Love is a Battletoad (circa1916), Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Grado's are nice sounding, but the fit is notoriously uncomfortable and they make your ears sore very quickly. Perhaps they've fixed them in recent years, though? The pics on the HeadRoom site look a little different (more padding).

matinee, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have a pair of the Beyerdynamic DT 235s. If you're just looking for home-use, I'd recommend them highly because they're super comfortable and sound great. They'd look a little funny for walking down the street though.

matinee, Sunday, 10 May 2009 23:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like Sony MDR-EX81 earbuds. They used to go for $70 years ago but I'm on my second pair from Amazon for about $35. Good sound, definitely heavier on bass though so it depends on your tastes. 2/3s of what I listen to now is rap or techno, so I love these, but if you're going for jazz, classical, misc, or everything you might not like these if you're ok with giving up bass for other traits.

The EX-71s are a step below. I haven't heard them but they also supposedly emphasize bass a bit. They're traditionally-designed earbuds of the over-the-ear aspect of the 81s doesn't interest you.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Confirmed the EX-71s are the same thing, only without ear hooks. But Sony's made some newer models since these came out (EX75, EX85, and EX90 are comparable)

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sarge I have a pair of Grado SR-60s to hook up to my stereo for *serious listening time* when I wanna hear all the details on some vinyl-ass record. They're amazing but as is suggested upthread they make the ears kinda sore after like 20 minutes. I'm not sure if it's a fitting issue or if its the frequencies you're hearing or what, but it's definitely a factor.

For most other headphone listening I have a pair of these lil shits I got at Radio Shack for like http://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K/ref=pd_cp_e_2?pf_rd_p=413863501&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00001P505&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1V06P2C5BC80SASAWF2X5 based on a recommendation at Head-Fi. By several orders of magnitude they're the best portable headphones I've ever used.

I'm not some HOOS for someone's lust to snack on! (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:11 (eight years ago) Permalink


Bose on-ear. Paid like $189--link is cheaper--at Best Buy 2 1/2 years ago. Best I've ever had.

Matos W.K., Monday, 11 May 2009 00:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

lower-end sennheisers (280, 555) are decent and worlds more comfortable than grados

booth, Monday, 11 May 2009 00:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

thanks guys

comfort is a high priority here

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Reccommend a pair of headphones for me

Moka, Monday, 11 May 2009 00:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

i want my own thread

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

don't take any flack jordan

Surmounter, Monday, 11 May 2009 00:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've had Grado SR-80s for several years and think they're plenty comfortable. The Sennheisers were less comfy by far; I think it depends a lot on head & ear shape.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 May 2009 00:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

im leaning towards the sr60s right now i think

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

altho i am tempted to buy the sr80s and then make the "s" a "g"

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 00:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

thanks guys

comfort is a high priority here

― triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, May 11, 2009 1:34 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

im leaning towards the sr60s right now i think

― triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, May 11, 2009 1:50 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

Thinking your setting yourself up for some hurt here. The main reason the Grados are uncomfortable is that the pads rest flush against the ears, pressing down the whole time, not over the ears like some of the larger Senn's or Denon or Beyerdynamics.

matinee, Monday, 11 May 2009 01:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

makes sense

update: no longer leaning towards sr60s right now

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

My Grado SR-80s have been wonderful for years now. They can be a little uncomfortable but usually only when I'm listening to really compressed music too loud.

dulce est desipere in loco (Euler), Monday, 11 May 2009 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

SR60s give a bright, in your face presentation which is good for rock. I've never found them uncomfortable physically, but the presentation can be a little tiring. Take a look at the Sennheiser PX100, which is more of an all-rounder. Also I've heard good things about the iGrado, but then you'd be wearing something on your head called an iGrado.

Can't stop the dancing chickens (dyao), Monday, 11 May 2009 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

I wear SR60s pretty much all day, every day at work and haven't found them to be uncomfortable at all. They're flimsy as hell though, at least mine are - the pads seem to be deteriorating and wearing through, and the bit of plastic that anchors the metal strap into each headphone broke so I have to carefully assemble them to put them on.

joygoat, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

They will mail you plastic caps for free, they did for my sr80's last week. Just mail the support email on their webpage. I have had mine for over 5 years, wear them all the time, and the pads are still pretty great.

svend, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

even tho they're pads they block noise pretty well?

cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

keep us updated good luck jordan s

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

well they bleed sound like crazy but i don't hear much over them

I'm not some HOOS for someone's lust to snack on! (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:34 (eight years ago) Permalink


cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

The pads don't block noise at all - they're not subway headphones. Also keep in mind the SR-60 cord is long and thick and not too bendable.

Can't stop the dancing chickens (dyao), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

"cumlord, i'm discouraged" xp

I'm not some HOOS for someone's lust to snack on! (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:39 (eight years ago) Permalink


some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

i sent my portapros back to koss to be mended in february and never received anything back (shoulda sent recorded), so am thinking of upgrading to something kinda bulkier. this all makes me think sr60s are a good idea; portapros are like a training course in accepting headphone discomfort in the name of higher fidelity.

corps of discovery (schlump), Monday, 11 May 2009 03:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have ear cartilage that points out some in the middle, The SR60s were very comfortable for my ears because I could angle them against the ear. My newer SR125s are less comfortable because the ear part sticking out goes right into the hard center of the speakers.

james k polk, Monday, 11 May 2009 03:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

try monster beats, if
- your head isnt too big
- you dont mind paying the extra marketing toll for dr.dre

has useful features, like active ambient noise killer, single fold-away earpads
sound is 'ok' too.

meisenfek, Monday, 11 May 2009 09:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

lower-end sennheisers (280, 555) are decent and worlds more comfortable than grados

― booth, Monday, 11 May 2009 01:29 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've had a pair of Sennheiser HD570's for nearly ten years. They're really comfortable as long as the weather isn't hot, although that's true of all headphones. They've been discontinued. but whatever the currect equivelent is should be around $50-$80.

snoball, Monday, 11 May 2009 09:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

check out the Audio Technica range

baaderonixx, Monday, 11 May 2009 09:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have panasonic rp-htx7s, which are big old-fashioned over the ear phones (not pads that sit on the ear). They are closed-back, which was essential for me, as I do most of my listening either on public transport or at home with someone else in the room, so I didn't want sound leaking in or out.

However, closed back phones are usually much poorer sound quality at the same price as open ones. I'm not too sure of the overall quality, but because the speaker is actually away from your ear, you don't get the claustrophobic quality that you get with, say PX200s. I like the way they sound anyway - lively.

Plus they look really cool.


Jamie T Smith, Monday, 11 May 2009 10:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you're seriously tempted by the Grado SR60s, I'd strongly recommend considering getting Alessandro MS1s for $20 more - you have to buy them online, sadly, and they're $100 (including P&P to anywhere in the world), but they're made by Grado, are roughly equivalent to the SR125, and tuned with less brightness than any Grado. I find them much more agreeable than the SR60s, which I found quite fatiguing.

Failing that, get a dedicated headphone amp and a pair of AKG K601s; I ADORE these (big buggers top-right).


Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 May 2009 13:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Top-LEFT, duh me.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 May 2009 13:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

can anyone briefly explain the difference between the Grado SR60s and SR80s to me?

baaderonixx, Monday, 11 May 2009 13:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

About $25.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 May 2009 13:44 (eight years ago) Permalink


Um, apparently slightly more bass extension, you get different earpads (the donuts rather than the sponges), a little more detail and soundstage, and allegedly a little brighter-sounding, even. If you get chance, listen to both and see which you prefer, I'd suggest.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 May 2009 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks. I'm going to the US next week and I was thinking I'd buy some Grados over there. I'm a bit worried by frequent mentions of lack of bass on the Grados and constant reference to them being 'rock' HPs.

baaderonixx, Monday, 11 May 2009 14:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

AKG 240s have been on sale for $70, I just got some and like them quite a bit

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 06:08 (two years ago) Permalink

I recall that 240s are very comfy

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 06:19 (two years ago) Permalink

I had the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for a few years. They sounded good, and are extremely well built, but their vice-like grip was too uncomfortable for me, and I ended up selling them. Sennheiser and AKG all make great stuff, it's all a matter of what king of tuning you prefer. So far the Fostex designed D1001/Aurvana Live beat out any other headphone I've heard for under $200.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

I got a pair of Sennheiser HD-598s recently too (mine were about $150, I must have missed the sale) and they're awesome. A little more bass than my Sennheiser HD-439s, and surprisingly not as hot on the ears after extended use-- surprising because the ear cups are friggin' velour.

I also have some Polk Ultrafit 1000s for running, which sound good enough that I switch to them if I'm listening on my phone and my ears get too hot from the 439s. I had Polk Ultrafit 500s before that, but I had trouble with one channel cutting out on them. I had the first (defective) pair replaced for free, no questions asked, so +1 for their customer service. I lost the replacement pair, and for the price difference the 1000s seemed like the better deal, they were only $10 more than the 500s and they're on-ear-- I've never been a huge fan of earbuds.

Tom Violence, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 20:45 (two years ago) Permalink

In the US, amazon seems to mark them down by ~$50 for one day of the Thanksgiving weekend every year (I say 'seems to' because I only have 2 data points). I think it was the Friday after Thanksgiving this year. I've had the HD-280 Pros for around 10 years, so I hope these are as sturdy. The detachable cable is nice, but then again the HD-280s have the only headphone cable I own that didn't fail after ~2 years.

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:10 (two years ago) Permalink

I recall that 240s are very comfy
They are indeed, and self-adjusting to boot.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:24 (two years ago) Permalink

Wow, and the 240s are currently selling for $56 on Amazon.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:25 (two years ago) Permalink

I never tried Porta Pro until the middle of this year and I'm totally stuck on them, just fantastic for everything and not painful to wear several hours in a row (Grado is my favorite sound signature but yeah they hurt)

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:45 (two years ago) Permalink

I had porta pros for all of undergrad and my only complaint is the band pulls your hair out

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:47 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

fyi for anyone who wants some cheap earphones https://www.wired.com/2017/01/review-kz-ate-hi-fi-earphones/?mbid=synd_digg

just sayin, Saturday, 28 January 2017 09:36 (ten months ago) Permalink

^ sounds impressive.

I've been using Soundmagic ES18s as low cost semi-decent in ear phones. Not amazing but better than anything else I'd come across for around £10. When I'm walking around I'm usually not that focussed on sound quality as long as it's not totally awful.

Superlux HD668Bs still sound great for the price (£24 from Thomann.de). Up there with ~£100 models like DT770s IMO. They just look very daft.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 28 January 2017 12:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

got the Kz ATE headphones and can confirm they are a steal, great great value

niels, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:27 (six months ago) Permalink

there's like 20 versions on amazon, which ones did you get?

Spottie, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:47 (six months ago) Permalink

I actually got them 2nd hand but this model https://www.amazon.com/Earphone-Headphones-Running-Eartips-Microphone/dp/B00Y0F6IBG

niels, Friday, 2 June 2017 06:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Grados are the best by far but you kind of look like a dork using them.

Beyerdynamic and AudioTechnica are the best I've used the range of $100/$200.

I'm too cheap to buy headphones over $200.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 2 June 2017 06:59 (six months ago) Permalink

PS: unless you have superhuman ear or are extremely picky about certain qualities and specification in sound, mostly every headphones in the range of $150 are awesome and more than what you need.

It's the emperor's new clothes. Think of them as bottles of whiskey. Any blend or single malt of 12 years will be good, almost noone tells the difference after that. I've fooled snobbish friends into drinking Chivas 12 and even red label and told them it's Chivas 18 or 21 by flling old bottles of 18/21 (I don't usually do this, it was a social experiment) They start saying "now this is a fine whiskey" and I'm silently laughing about it.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 2 June 2017 07:08 (six months ago) Permalink

well I don't think many ilxors need convincing of that

this is however the first time I've come across a pair of in-ear headphones of such a quality for less than 100$

niels, Friday, 2 June 2017 08:36 (six months ago) Permalink

I love my Beyerdyamic DT 770s...however, I just had to send them back because the left driver went out....previously I'd sent a pair back to Amazon (in the first month) because the headband became detatched from an ear cup (this was in the Amazon return window)

to their credit they are repairing it for free (though I had to drop $20 on shipping)...but a little concerned their QC is slipping

that said, for office use, they are tremendous at blocking out noise (frankly work as good as any noise canceling ones i've heard), sound great and are extremely comfortable

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:32 (six months ago) Permalink

That's really strange, DT 770 Pro? Those are built like a tank, I felt like I could run mine over with the car and they'd be fine. Now that there are many newer models out, like the DT 1770 Pro and 1990 Pro (open, which is what I have now), you can get such great deals on those, around $115 to 135. Definitely a great deal, and all parts are replaceable in the pro versions. The 250 ohm version is ideal with an amp, but can be used without one.

You definitely can get better headphones than ever for right at $200, especially when Massdrop offered the Sennheiser HD 6XX at that price. And currently Massdrop has the AKG K7XX also for $200. Both of those open headphones were flagships that sold for much more about a decade ago. I still use my K701 for movies in the living room when my S.O. goes to bed early. People are really into the Meze 99 Classic, and the 99 Neo, basically same headphone without the wood cups for $60 cheaper at $249 is shipping soon. I heard it at Axpona and it does compare really well against headphones twice it's price. It's closed and has iPhone controls/mic on cord like many portable-friendly headphones do.

So one can argue $200 as the diminishing returns drop-off. There's varying opinions in the hobby, but I would move that point to more like $700. Which is exactly what the MrSpeakers Aeon cost. I heard it at Axpona too, and was very impressed. It outperforms anything I'd heard in that range. My pre-order arrives soon.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 3 June 2017 12:54 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm on board the KZ hype train. ATE, ATR and ZS3 are all really good. ATR is more mid focused and has a spherical soundstage, ZS3 has clean and massive bass along with crisp mids and highs. I use those the most. Detachable cable is also nice.

octobeard, Sunday, 4 June 2017 09:10 (six months ago) Permalink

I've really loved my Sennheiser Momentum 2.0s (now called "HD1" apparently) for the last year. Closed, over-ear, really great balanced sound when wired and frankly about indistinguishable over a solid Bluetooth 4.0 AptX (non-iPhone) connection, very durable, light but solid, and to my taste a very attractive refinement of classic 60s aesthetics while being all-day comfortable.



I paid more like $350 than the $500 list, but given they'l last me at least a decade (based on previous Sennheisers I've had), that seems reasonable. I used Etymotic ER4P in-ears for years, but started having issues with ear infections and have switched back to over-ears.

Soundslike, Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:50 (six months ago) Permalink

I've got a pair of on-ear wireless Senn's (450-x) and love them. Looking forward to their next gen BT5 models.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 4 June 2017 20:03 (six months ago) Permalink

for on-ear I've got the Bose QuietComfort and while the sound is not remarkable (it's just fine) the noise cancelling is fantastic, esp since I mostly use them on the road

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:01 (six months ago) Permalink

thx for the kz recommendation, niels - got a pair over the weekend to replace a pair of rha's which fell apart, and the kz's are fantastic value for money

the memory foam tips ended up nearly lodging in my ear canal when i first put them in, though, which was a bit alarming - replaced them with the rubber ones from my old rha's though and they work great

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 14:28 (six months ago) Permalink

GRADOs >>>>>>>>> everything. Also, per the dork comment back there, if you get the RS1s or any of them that incorporate wood into the mix, your dorkiness becomes very artisanal with a side of avocado toast.

yesca, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:08 (six months ago) Permalink

GRADOs >>>>>>>>> everything

otm i just wish there was one that I could wear for more than a couple hours comfortably

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 5 June 2017 16:52 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's weird after all these years Grado's still look and feel like they were made in a garage, with the possible exception of their $2,695 PS2000e.

There's 5 days left on the AKG K553 Pro drop, for $110. A great deal for those wanting a closed headphone. 11 days left on the Massdrop x Fostex T-X0 Planar for $150.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 18 June 2017 15:27 (five months ago) Permalink

KZ ZS3 are so uncomfortable : /

||||||||, Sunday, 18 June 2017 17:39 (five months ago) Permalink

i'm looking for a good pair of over-ear phones. i've been using the same pair of sennheiser hd280s for years but i'm not that crazy about em. they're sturdy as hell but not super comfortable, kind of heavy. i'm not nuts about how they sound, the mids and highs seem harsh to me.

brimstead, Sunday, 18 June 2017 18:55 (five months ago) Permalink

I bought my Grado SR60 headphones back in 2007 and they're still going strong. They're dorky as hell but the sound is awesome. And "only" $79.00.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 18 June 2017 20:44 (five months ago) Permalink

HiFiMAN marked down their HE400i Planar from $449 to $249. I'm guessing they're clearing stock to get ready for a new model.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Also the Sennheiser HD 6XX drop starts Monday. Last time it sold out in a few minutes, so they figured they might as well up the price to $249 (it's around $315 in general market).

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:57 (five months ago) Permalink

Last 8 hrs of drop, priced dropped to $199.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 22:51 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I've been enjoying the used HifiMAN HE-6 I got a couple weeks ago, the best magnetic planar headphone I've had so far, including the Audeze LCD-2.2. Today a new collaboration with Massdrop was released, the HE4XX. At $170, a no-brainer, as nothing else in that price range comes close. Closest might be the Monoprice Monolith M1060 for $300, that's not as good.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:06 (four months ago) Permalink

The drop ends in a few hours for the AKG K7XX. At slightly more at $200, these very comfortable, one of the lightest former flagship open headphones at 235g (compare to HE-4XX's 370g, Focal Utopia's 490g, Abyss AB-1266's 620g), it's great for classical, jazz, acoustic and movies with a wide soundstage. I still use my white K701 that I got in 2006 in the living room for movies/TV.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:27 (four months ago) Permalink

*kicks rock* I fell for the Sennheiser HD 6XX drop

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Buyers remorse? Is it because they don't ship 'til December? They're great headphones too -- I was tempted to do it, but don't really need 'em.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:39 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah I should probably plan for a good headphone amp before I get sad about not having planar magentic phones

er, any chance I could get away with using the headphone jack on this DAC I have sitting around?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:51 (four months ago) Permalink

oh yeah those Focusrites have nice DACs in them

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:59 (four months ago) Permalink

I've been reading up on iems/earbuds lately because fucking apple earpods should not be a longterm device. The first thing I started googling is "iem soundstage". If I'm willing to drop $150 - $350 on dangles, they ought to at least simulate the headphone experience. Audeze iSine 10 came up in my searches but they are ugly for one thing.

From my searches: "IEMs are like closed headphones while earbuds are more like open headphones. If you want a big soundstage earbuds is the way to go (if it is okay for you to sacrifice sub bass, compared to IEMs)."

Currently I'm looking at the LZ-A4 hybrid.

the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 11 August 2017 03:33 (four months ago) Permalink

I really don't like earbuds. I need my bass

Spottie, Friday, 11 August 2017 03:52 (four months ago) Permalink

Exactly. But from what I've read, earbuds have come a long way in the last few years. The hybrid I mentioned gets stellar reviews.

the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 11 August 2017 03:58 (four months ago) Permalink

I still think the beyerdynamic dt770 and audiotechnica Ad700 are the best headphones you can get below $200.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2017 07:12 (four months ago) Permalink

And I still think people that buy headphones above $500 cant tell the difference.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2017 07:13 (four months ago) Permalink

if only I had their golden ears

mh, Friday, 11 August 2017 14:24 (four months ago) Permalink

ive never tried headphones above 500 so i cant say one way or another. would like to

Spottie, Friday, 11 August 2017 16:25 (four months ago) Permalink

As someone who has spent >$500 on a headphone and listened to headphones >$2k, it's a combination of sound quality, comfort and sound signature. >$1000 you're looking at extremely diminishing returns if not lateral changes in style and tone and there's a ton of products with very poor price performance ratios (MDR-Z1R, HD800S, LCD4, LCDX, Ether C Flow, etc). Clarity and detail is quite variable in headphones above $1k in my trials, and it's more about sound signature preferences, comfort, etc. An HD600 is like 90-95% of what you need for clarity, an HD800 will give you all of it for less than a grand. An LCD2 (which can be found new for $700) is to many a comparable if not better performer than the LCD3 (which is twice the price). Craziness. That said, there's some remarkable sounding gear out there above $500 and if you can't afford a good speaker setup or play music in your house loud, it's a worthy investment if music is more important to you than say television or movies.

The best way to find out is to actually trial some really nice cans. Bring your own and compare. For years I just used a DT-770 until I tried a bunch out in Japan while I was traveling and had a holy shit moment.

octobeard, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:52 (four months ago) Permalink

If you have a set budget it's perfectly acceptable to believe what you've got is as good as it gets!

For years I used the DT770 Pro and Denon AH-D2000 (which I still use at work) and they are great. It's not like there are crucial bits of range missing. Getting more into the hobby is definitely about gear geekery and appreciating the subtle differences in sound signatures, just like some get into wines or scotches, or musicians who collect different guitars. Not everyone is going to be able to tell the differences or care.

Super budget deal of the moment, the AKG K220 which lists for $160 will be as low as $50 on this Massdrop - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-m220-semi-open-studio-headphones.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 12 August 2017 17:05 (four months ago) Permalink

Any way to drive the HFM HE400 straight from an iPhone? Or is that missing the point?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 12 August 2017 20:07 (four months ago) Permalink

The Massdrop HE-4XX is efficient and can be used on an iPhone. You can compare the sensitivity stats of the other versions.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 12 August 2017 21:55 (four months ago) Permalink

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