if I like Diamanda Galas/Patty Waters/Fatima Miranda/Meredith Monk...

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...I would also like _________.

babyalive, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Carly Ptak: Both

http://www.heresee.com/bothhs047.htm

the table is the table, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Lisa Suckdog!

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Catherine Ribeiro

Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

so many points just for putting Fatima in a subject line

Les Voix Du Monde
Luciano Berio - Sequenza III & Thema (Omaggio a Joyce) (performed by Cathy Berberian)
Colette Magny - Feu et rythme
Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis
Catherine Riberio & Alpes - No. 2
Ghédalia Tazartès - Une Éclipse Totale De Soleil
Sonny & Linda Sharrock - Black Woman
Yoko Ono - Fly
Joan La Barbara - Voice is the Original Instrument
Richard Horowitz & Sussan Deyhim - Desert Equations: Azax Attra

for possible future investigation

Florence Foster Jenkins - The Glory (????) of the Human Voice
Anna Homler - Bread Woman
Ami Yoshida - Tiger Thrush
Maja Ratkje - Voice
Marissa Marchant - "Emu"

xpost!

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

x-post

Joan La Barbara.

Ah, if Mr. Parker has shown up, I haven't got much to add.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

that's the short list

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Johanna Went?

Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Sainkho Namtchylak - Lost Rivers

Sundar, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

If it doesn't necessarily need to be female vocalists, add:
Phil Minton
this disc

WmC, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

oh no, doesn't need to be female vocalists at all. we don't discriminate.

thanks so much, Milton! that list looks amazing.

babyalive, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Mary Margaret O'Hara - "Year In Song" & Miss America
Les Double Six w/ Catherine Legrand - "Boo's Blues"
Giacinto Scelsi - Canti del Capricorno 1-19 (performed by Michiko Hirayama) (I find this one rough going, but worth hearing)
Brenda Hutchinson - "Eeeyah!"
Julia Heyward - "MONGOLIAN FACE SLAP BIG COUP (part one) / NOSE FLUTE, BIG COUP (part two)" (long time favorite, ubuweb has a copy)
Sinead O'Connor & Karen Finley - Jump In The River 12"
Demetrio Stratos - Cantare la Voce (and Area - Crac!)
Southern Journey, Vol. 10: And Glory Shone Around (Singers of United Sacred Harp Musical Assoc led by A. L. Parker) - Tell me about shape-notes
Music of the Ba-Benzélé-Pygmies - An Anthology of African Music 3
Kurt Schwitters - Ursonate (ur-text!)

xpost, wow that Minton / Moss / Dutton / Blonk / Makigami disc! I guess we needed an art world answer record to the Three Tenors

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

& last two for now

Antonin Artaud - Pour En Finir Avec Le Jugement De Dieu
Nina Hagen - Nunsexmonkrock

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

You might want to read some Galas interviews and well and see what singers she names as partial models. (I'll leave it at that.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, Five Singers is great.

Cathy Berberian's performance of Luciano Berio's "Sequenza III"

Sundar, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost, wow that Minton / Moss / Dutton / Blonk / Makigami disc! I guess we needed an art world answer record to the Three Tenors

My favorite thing about that concert is that I was there! All five of those guys were absolutely drenched in sweat by the end of it. Zorn conducted a performance of Cobra at the same festival and Makigami vocalized on a couple of turns -- I wouldn't have been surprised to see him pop like the dude in Scanners.

WmC, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Sussan Deyhim, who mixes up Galas/Hirsh/Monk extended technique with some Persian elements from her own heritage. The overall effect is to my ears near the nexus of Meredith Monk and Lisa Gerrard.

In particular, you'll want these:

Sussan Deyhim & Richard Horowitz - Desert Equations: Azax Attra (1986)
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/a95abffc594128bc0b2e007c44f00bdd/890400.jpg
Sussan Deyhim & Richard Horowitz - Majoun (1996)
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/9b104010e2a5670936109d60d1b6001b/890405.jpg
Sussan Deyhim - Madman of God: Divine Love Songs of the Persian Sufi Masters (2000)
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/1ed388053d8310e35b71b80107a82bb3/17829.jpg

which trace a trajectory of sorts from more downtown NY to more Alammut. She has a more extensive discography, and is one of very very few for whom I am a completist. But those three are the pillars.

derelict, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

some laurie anderson would fit well here. "united states live" for example.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost is it strange that my first reaction is "I want to be her friend"?

babyalive, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

A recent important exponent of less song-oriented extended vocal technique:

The album:

Maja Ratkje - Voice (2003)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8484/r107060001fn4.jpg

Its hard for me to judge this material. I think our individual preferences here may come down to which performer brings you to the edge of your personal envelope of tolerability, but doesn't push you over.

derelict, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for Johanna Went tip John D. -- I remember her from ReSearch, a long, long, long time ago, but never followed up, now I want to see that recent archival DVD

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"Mary Margaret O'Hara - "Year In Song" & Miss America"

don't forget her "duet" with morrissey, "november spawned a monster", which is just as brilliant in its way as sinead with karen finley.

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

also like to give a shout-out to some of jarboe's solo work. anhedoniac and disburden disciple are pretty amazing vocal performances. and diamanda fans should appreciate them. (some of her stuff is uneven though. especially some of the earlier stuff. or dated. or something.)

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this thread so much.

Ivan, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish she'd picked almost any song to do that with other than that Morrissey song!

Hey Scott for some reason this thread sent me back to that mp3 you posted of Womb's 'The Happy Egotist', I wanted to add it to the list, but alas it doesn't precisely fit here. It's too amazing to fit anywhere!

The Church Universal and Triumphant Inc. feat. Elizabeth Clare Prophet - "Decree 12.10" from The Sounds Of American Doomsday Cults Vol. 14
Anthony Moore - JamJemJimJomJum (from Pieces From The Cloudland Ballroom)
Sally Smmit - Soundtrack to Hangahar (side A) (god knows how many times I've listened to this. a lot.)
Art Bears - "Freedom", "Rats & Monkeys" (& all of Winter Songs & World As It Is Today)
Kevin Coyne & Dagmar Krause - "Come Down Here"
Ligeti - Requiem
Inflatable Boy Clams - "Marin" (immortal!)
Magma - "The Last Seven Minutes"
John Cage - "Solos for Voice 2"
Louis Armstrong - "I Remember, Dear" (1930)
Luigi Nono - "Grosse Demonstration" from Intolleranza 1960
Runzelstirn & Gurgelstock - For 40 Fingernails and 4 Thumbscrews
Iva Bittová - Ne Nehledej (five star album)

Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Irene Papas with Aphrodite's Child: ∞

Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

"Hey Scott for some reason this thread sent me back to that mp3 you posted of Womb's 'The Happy Egotist'"

i thought of the same thing! weird. and i hadn't thought of it for a long time. and i also kinda figured it didn't belong here. where the hell does it belong?

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

it's funny, my friend lance is the hugest smiths/morrissey fan in the world and we BOTH loved miss america when it came out. so, when we heard november we were both blown away by the insane video and her contribution to the song. we were both big karen finley fans back then too and the sinead single was definitely on our hit parade.

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, milton, e-mail me, i need your help with something:

skotrok

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earthlink

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net

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Shelly Hirsch. She's an odd one.

derelict, Thursday, 30 April 2009 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread is great and I love it. I just wish I could contribute!

ian, Thursday, 30 April 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

White guy does overtone chant - this is all one guy, one take, in a resonant room:

derelict, Thursday, 30 April 2009 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Christina Carter crosses into this zone.

What's R&G's "For 40 Fingernails and 4 Thumbscrews", Milton? I'm not familiar with that particular one.

try to fix the puffiness with some nolva and then go juicin' (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

beme seed, kathleen lynch, removes paint from walls

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The Church Universal and Triumphant Inc. feat. Elizabeth Clare Prophet - "Decree 12.10" from The Sounds Of American Doomsday Cults Vol. 14

I have some odd things on cassette that I taped off the radio when one of her shows was broadcast (many years back).

Another performer to consider would be Ayelet Rose Gottlieb, especially Mayim Rabim (on Tzadik). More conventionally song-oriented than a lot of the artists mentioned so far, but she does go off into very interesting vocal territory.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

(Warning: there's long silence at the beginning of this video)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I love ILM so much sometimes. Thank you! Tracking all this down will keep me busy for a while.

xpost sort of: I DO love Dagmar Krause. Excellent deduction. I was listening to "Babble" (the song) just now in the Buenos Aires subway, actually. Some stranger decided to hit on me by asking what I was listening to. I replied. He then wanted to listen. I responded, basically, with "okay, but you're going to think I'm fucking crazy." I was surprised, but he seemed to genuinely dig it. He wanted me to write down the names for him, anyway.

So yes, that's today's tale of maybe turning on some complete stranger to Dagmar Krause (???).

babyalive, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

there was one time about five years ago, driving around in palo alto in july when this convertible drove up beside me with two traditionally-cute stanford students, and they both looked at me and smiled, and I smiled back, and at that exact moment my cassette stereo (which I'd forgotten I had turned up quite loud) auto-reversed into the opening scree of yoko ono's 'plastic ono band'. their smiles vanished and they both turned away, then the light turned and they floored it a few seconds after yoko had begun repeatedly screaming the word 'WHY'

Milton Parker, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the R&G track is from a compilation -- I found the mp3 online, it is worth hearing

that David Hykes 'Hearing Solar Winds' album is sort of at the top of the heap when it comes to overtone choir drone, but if you've gone there, then:

The Church Universal and Triumphant Inc. feat. Elizabeth Clare Prophet - "Decree 12.10" from The Sounds Of American Doomsday Cults Vol. 14
Stockhausen - Stimmung (Singcircle version)
Anthony Moore - JamJemJimJomJum (Moore's answer to Stockhausen's Stimmung & I'm pretty sure an uncredited Dagmar is in the chorus)
Michael Vetter & the Overtone Choir - Ancient Voices
Environments 7 - Intonation (http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/527)
Prima Materia - Tail of the Tiger (this one a little too much of a free-for-all for me, but worth hearing - http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/prima-materia-tail-of-tigerlp1977italy.html )
Cornelius Cardew - The Great Learning, Paragraph 7
Huun-Huur-Tu - Live 1 & Live 2
Voches De Sardinna - Tenore e Cuncordu de Orosei

Milton Parker, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha! That sounds perfectly like a scene from a movie.

Wanted to post to acknowledge that I'm silly and the Coyne/Krause album was downloaded and mislabeled. Song is "Sweetheart". Doubt that's particularly important to anyone, but wanted to correct the wrong. Anyhow.

babyalive, Saturday, 2 May 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Is there actually a further 13 volumes in the Doomsday Cult series, or is it just supposed to look like it? All else that I've seen is the Aum Shinri Kyo 7".

JUN TOGAWA / Phew / Guernica / Yapoos





matinee, Saturday, 2 May 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

oh god I love Jun Togawa. The Guernica record is my favorite but her first two solo albums are covered with weird pop. Downloaded Yapoos but haven't spent as much time with yet.

no Togawa thread, but of course she comes up a lot here, and anyone still on this thread should definitely know about this record: Kiyohiko Senba and his Haniwa All Stars

Milton Parker, Saturday, 2 May 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

can't remember if anyone mentioned it, but check out the track "Nearby Shiras" on Kalackra's Crawling To Lhasa album from 1972. so cool.

scott seward, Monday, 25 May 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Milton! or anybody else who has never seen/heard this. this is this group image in 1969. one of my fave extreme vocal performances of the 60's. by far my favorite song on their album. and this is lip-synced, but it's so cool to have such great visuals. anyway, i think her vocals are just so gonzo and punk rock i can hardly stand it. so wonderfully demented. it's the building dementia that i like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0lUkvtHUY

scott seward, Thursday, 11 June 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Baby in the library is doing totally extended vocal techniques, kind of closer to Joan La Barbara than anyone else mentioned here.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i wanna know what milton thought of the group image video. maybe he missed it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

hi skot. just got back from trip down the east coast (which was gangbusters)

group image video is pretty wonderful, I'd better track down that album. she does a good job lip-syncing to something that out.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

my new hero. she performed last night in my store. so cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt8BLlEm89w

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

yes wow

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

wow this is an amazing thread. how did i miss that big jun togawa post. may i add:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHN4EEcVGm4

you don't have to be fake and phony (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i forget, did anyone include urszula on this thread? love her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K-sNn0CWEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4VHW7SKirg

she's a genius, if you ask me.

scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

oh she sure is! didn't see you link those two years back. and had never heard her do looping / processing either. this has been a dj set staple though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AScD-ojOYo

she needs her own thread

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

catherine ringer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHEwFoo_KA0

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

and again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sn8QPEcPpk

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

Jocy de Oliveira

Zuleika, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Magdalith reminds me of Meredith Monk and Iva Bittova

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kG1x-YvOEw
s/t 1973

From the wiki page: Magdalith, real name Madeleine Lipszyc (August 4, 1932 - September 14, 2013), was a French painter, singer, composer, author and liturgist. Born in Toulouse to a Jewish family, she converted to Catholicism at the age of 19. Her Catholic faith did not stop her from identifying with her Jewish heritage. As a liturgist, she researched the relationship between synagogal chant and Gregorian chant. [...] Because of her poor health, she was never able to take the full vows of a nun. However, she lived in a Congregation of Our Lady of Sion convent in Draveil for the rest of her life. She died from cancer there in 2013.

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