Astor Piazolla: S/D

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I bought la camorra last sunday. Very good! Got tango: zero hour as well. Are there any toher alb. Live and studio that you can recommend?

(Also look in this thread ''Taking Sides: Buena Vista Social Club vs. O Brother Where Art Thou? (Mark)''). There was a bit of talking abt him there. Didn't know he was huge but then again nevah paid much attention to world music. I got to him when i heard some of the stuff John Adams did with his string arrangements. And then I searched on a bit of info.

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

As I said, totally classic. But in danger of becoming *the* yuppie signifier of sophisticated musical taste.

Avoid for 5 years. Then search "Libertango". "Vuelvo al sur" is an amazing, beautiful song. Gotan do a version of this too, which is nice in a downtempo context, but not as beautiful as the original.

phil, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Tango: Zero Hour is one of my Top-10 favorite albums, period. Pretty much all the stuff on American Clave/Nonesuch is essential, although the collaboration with the Kronos Qt. is sort of a dud.

And it's "Piazzolla," with two "z"s.

Lee G, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and and anyway, how can you play such music as a soundtrack to a fucking party!

Well, civilized parties :-) The sort of parties I've started attending no I'm in my 30s, and almost married, and are attended by university lecturers and people with grown up kids. I don't mean drunken orgies!

The sort of parties where people also play Buena Vista or cool jazz.

phil, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to gross anyone out, but Zero Hour makes an excellent soundtrack for a two-person horizontal party, ifyouknowwha'msayin'?

Lee G, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

''I don't mean drunken orgies!''

Nor did I? I'll rephrase what i said : to a 'bloody' party. How abt that!

I mean how can you hear it above ppl's chatter.

It's no use avoiding it for five years. I mean, there could a really popular romantic comedy (starring tom hanks and meg ryan of course!) with Piazzola (two z's are you happy now Lee) in that time and then it might get really huge like Buena Vista so I'll keep going now, thanks.

Anyway, who cares if the yuppies are buying it, you know?

Tango: zero hour is really good but what abt live stuff. Actual titles (though tahnks, you've been helpful).

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant piazzola in the soundtrack of course!

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, Wong Kar-Wai's amazing film Happy Together (which was largely shot in Buenos Aires) uses tons of Piazzolla on the soundtrack. I don't think it did much for his sales, though.

Lee G, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Lee- I saw that movie but it was a foreign movie. I thought it was really good movie and the soundtrack added to it. Has a CD ever been released (I doubt i could find it even if ti did).

Julio Desouza, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Julio - There probably was a Happy Together soundtrack, but I don't think it would have been issued in North America. I've never seen it, but then again I've hardly ever looked. Still it would be pretty interesting to have around, as the score is pretty much half Piazzolla and half Zappa, plus Caetano Veloso's ravishing version of "Cucurrucucu Paloma." But, if I recall, most if not all of the Piazzolla stuff from the movie is from Zero Hour anyway.

Lee G, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What abt tango the genre. Any other artists that any of you would like to recommend?

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...
Such an early death for a thread...
I can't think of anything more beautiful than Libertango right now.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 October 2005 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I can overdose on him a bit easily, but when I'm in the mood, he is just impossibly good.

my favorite is Rough Dancer and the Cyclical Night though all three of those American Clav├ęs are great. The mid to late 70's stretch are all key: Libertango, Lumiere, Persecuta & Biyuya. (1st and 3rd probably my preferentials but I should check the other two because I am years older now since the last listens)

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 3 October 2005 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

yep, the first track on La Camorra, inevitable

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 3 October 2005 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link

the Rough Guide to him is great great great

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that a real one or an ILM one?

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I am years older since my last listens to 'la camorra', too.

The only bit of piazolla action that I've gotten since those classic nu- ilx days has been a documentary on BBC four about his life w/ full interviews with sidemen, family and a ton of footage (gotta have that!) and another viewing of "happy together". Listening to the music on that is as good a reason as any to catch that film again.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

fifteen years pass...

saw Happy Together again the other night (devastating!) so Tango Apasionado has now been running through my head for two days. so beautiful.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 30 April 2021 00:14 (one week ago) link


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