― toby, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Recently I picked up a copy of Argon and yeah, its heavy stuff. If
you can sit through the four tracks in 78 minutes then, yes, you're
made of stronger stuff than I am and these ppl were paying attention
to side 2 of Funhouse but of course it is way way better than
anything iggy & co. could make. Just rock drones with
saxophone/chinese horns and all instrumental. I can only take so much
There's a very good skullflower page. Just google it. All alb info
and interviews w/various members. You'll find info on
Ascension/Descension if you want some more improv-based stuff that
was made by S.Jaworzyn (a former skullflower member).
If anyone has copies of any skullflower alb other than these two then
I'm up for some tape trading (of course not for a while as I am away
from home but once I get back...).
― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― dan, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― your null fame, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Second that in ramleh's case but Ascension I do. Last time I checked
AMG the retard who 'reviewed' ascension had only got hold of three
titles LP. This has a record of their first gig and, on the other
side, a studio track. While I'm not too hot on their first gig, lets
remember it is their first gig and its not a disaster and actually it
is well worth having for the wonderful riffage on the second side 18-
minute track (though Tony Irving's drumming isn't well recorded).
Overall its like saying the first few beatles records suck because
they weren't experimenting and just doing boy band type stuff
(actually, all beatles records suck even though i've only heard one).
I say this because 'Five titles' and 'broadcast' (the latter a live
broadcast for a radio station in san francisco (double CD), the
former a collection of studio and live tracks) are both ABSOLUTELY
FUCKING MIND BLOWING AND GO FUCK YOURSELVES IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.
Put quite simply these improvisations rock, and Irving 'skull
smashing' type drumming makes him one my fave drmmers evah. he
perfectly complements Jaworzyn death metal meets derek bailey/sonny
sharrock type guitar work.
Descension is Jaworzyn/irving plus simon fell on bass and charles
warf on drums. The 1st part is OK recorded (48 mins improvisation).
The last two parts are pretty bad (you can hardly hear simon fell)
but its well worth having because it sounds like good speaker damage
But yeah hopefully someone will reissue skullflower's 'Xaman' and
some of the other stuff (though if you have anything we can always
talk as I've said earlier).
Bower teaching ppl how to play, huh? Skullflower's name has been
cited as an influence in some of these 'death'/'sludgy-er' metal type
band. Old man Gloom got mentioned in terrorizer i seem to remember as
being influenced by skullflower. I completely forgot to check their
last alb out.
Its gonna be tough to recreate some of their former glories (or even
to carve a new direction on their own).
''tumult is going to be doing the ep ("super limited", great, just
great) and a singles/rarity comp.''
I'll have to hunt this down. Thanks!
― Alex in SF, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
So am I! You guys have all the luck.
― Julio Desouza, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Clarke B., Friday, 3 January 2003 02:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
i have "ruins" on cd and it is indeed bronzing at the edges but it doesn't seem to affect the sound at the moment; first thing i did when i got the CD is make a CDR backup and rip a copy to my harddrive just to be on the safe side. as for "xaman" being rare, it's probably no more rare on CD than any of the other shock/freek releases, but there's obviously going to be some attrition over the years... i have "xaman" on vinyl, which lacks the bonus tracks, but at least it - hopefully - won't rot.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 3 January 2003 04:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 3 January 2003 07:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Also my copy of the Blue Orchids 'View From the City' cd comp has had a similar effect (release date unknown ? - but definitely early 90's), and others with the cd have said the same. But thankfully it still plays well.
Also, this cracked me up:
(actually, all beatles records suck even though i've only heard one).
Terrific critical acumen there.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 3 January 2003 09:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
I tracked down the ramleh singles comp and I had a merry Xmas with it. quite nice but not as good as skullflower at their best.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 3 January 2003 13:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Switch back and forth on: CARVED INTO ROSES
― doug (doug), Friday, 3 January 2003 20:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
After one adventurous day I found myself with a post-it note from myself that read "dear nick, welcome to your spine." That sums up skullflower well for me.
― nick ring (nick ring), Saturday, 4 January 2003 06:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 4 January 2003 15:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Sunday, 18 September 2005 23:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink
(and plenty of non-skullflower)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 03:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 June 2006 03:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 04:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Someday I'll get around to writing that Skullflower discog overview...
― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink
what did ppl think of 'Orange Canyon Mind' - to my ears not that diff from recentish Sunroof stuff, and not as tasty as the hototogisu stuff w/ marcia b (i know el sabor will prob disagree!)
i wish Stefan was a prolific as Bower
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Matt Bower and Robert Creeley, separated at birth?
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink
So anyway, Crucial Blast reissued IIIrd Gatekeeper, and while I already had it, it's nice to hear/have rip open my head again. (Also the liner notes are invaluable for providing a detailed early history of the band, and imply that more reissues are due.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 November 2007 02:44 (nine years ago) Permalink
― W4LTER, Thursday, 22 November 2007 10:08 (nine years ago) Permalink
I'm rather fond of Obsidian Shaking Codex, myself. It hardly ever seems to get any mention, for some reason.
― Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Thursday, 22 November 2007 15:15 (nine years ago) Permalink
it's XAMAN for me, total mind destruction. i hope they can rescue somebody's CD for reissuing purposes at some point.
i thought i commented earlier ITT about IIIrd gatekeeper being kind of an odd choice as a reissue as it's already relatively easy to find. and i also thought i expressed some vague hope stefan jaworzyn would stop being a cock and let them reissue the early stuff.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:06 (nine years ago) Permalink
Well, it's a good gateway drug of an album, I'd say. More focused, more conventionally RAWK, and given Crucial Blast's general approach, it suits them. So why not?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:20 (nine years ago) Permalink
hey, more skullflower is always better than less. i just hope it sells and they're able to do more. go, crucial blast, go.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:25 (nine years ago) Permalink
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Edward III for that Skullflower singles comp he posted a while back. Thanks!!!
― sleeve, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:27 (nine years ago) Permalink
Did I miss that? Is it still around?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:29 (nine years ago) Permalink
yeah was that on leonardo or something?
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:31 (nine years ago) Permalink
this blurb appears on the amazon listings, shock is jaworzyn's label so it sounded like some kind of collaboration
Finally available, after almost two years of driving Dirter & Shock to the brink of insanity...
― this gtr climbed mt. washington (Edward III), Thursday, 1 August 2013 18:32 (four years ago) Permalink
EIII employing crafty psy-op arbitrage strategy itt.
I hope an aquatic horrorshape consumes you in yr bathtub
I take it you'll be buying only three copies?
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 1 August 2013 18:41 (four years ago) Permalink
"Almost every sales site/label/distro seems to be concentrating on vinyl. I don't get it. It's stupidly expensive to produce (and buy - especially considering international postage costs); there doesn't seem to be any way to break even on runs of 300 or less unless you sell most of 'em full price yourself; pressings are regularly horrible (coloured/gimmick vinyl etc is an abomination, 'super-heavy' vinyl a joke); 99% of vinyl is mastered from digital sources anyway so don’t give me that drivel about ‘analogue sound’...Oh, I could go on and on...
So the 12" series is going to lose me quite a lot. But if I sell a relatively small number of CDs I'll break even much faster, can put out another release sooner and I don't feel like a spaz having spunked over a grand on a record no one wants...AND CDs SOUND BETTER. Yes, I said it. CDs sound better. Oh, so you've got a mono UK original Piper at the Gates of Dawn, have you? Sold your kids to Estonian sex-traffickers for it, eh? How droll. Well I have it on CD and IT SOUNDS BETTER THAN THE VINYL. I mean it, man.
OK, here's another. Form Destroyer. The LP version is horrible. The cut was rubbish, the pressing was rubbish (the master tapes were fine). The new CD sounds better than any other version. No, your vinyl version is not much cooler, it’s simply unlistenable. (Xaman sounds fine on vinyl as it was mastered from the – wait, what, no – DIGITAL MASTER!)
What is this crap always polluting discogs: 'when's the vinyl coming out?' I’ll tell you when the vinyl’s coming out: 'Fuck right off time' is when the vinyl's coming out.
But no, let’s pay £20.00 for an LP, which probably doesn’t include a download (mp3s are digital smegma), so where do you get your ‘listening copy’? You pay ALMOST THE SAME PRICE AS A CD for some shitty flacs, or a quid less for the mpfucking3s. What, are we slobbering slack-jawed mongoloids? Why on bog’s green earth would anyone pay around a tenner for flacs? So they can make their own CD? Duh. Oh, flacs are just dandy if you’ve got a 250GB shitpad that plays them. And they’re so convenient to load onto your portable device, eh? Right, just kill me now."
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 September 2013 07:01 (three years ago) Permalink
I was going to post that here. Always an entertaining read.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:38 (three years ago) Permalink
lol what is that from. Very funny.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:46 (three years ago) Permalink
appreciate a good rant but i did wince a bit at the spaz/mongoloid language
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:07 (three years ago) Permalink
It was a mailout from Stefan for people on his usual mailorder list or who bought the reissues from him.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 6 September 2013 13:22 (three years ago) Permalink
Had a good chuckle at that - hope he re-starts the scum list again.
I suppose this is more releant to the thread:
(Oh yeah, speaking of Skullflower, I'm also sick of seeing people repeat the incorrect information about Skullflower being formed in 1987. It wasn't. It was formed in 1986 by Matthew, Stuart and me. Then Alex Binnie joined on bass, then Gary. In that order. You'd think the inclusion of tracks from '86 on the Birthdeath CD might make people 'think', but obviously not...So many errors, so few collective brain cells...)
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 September 2013 19:56 (three years ago) Permalink
OK, here's another. Form Destroyer. The LP version is horrible. The cut was rubbish, the pressing was rubbish (the master tapes were fine). The new CD sounds better than any other version. No, your vinyl version is not much cooler, it’s simply unlistenable.
this man is insane
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:23 (three years ago) Permalink
granted I haven't heard the new remasters yet, but calling the form destroyer LP horrible is demented
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:25 (three years ago) Permalink
I was quite lose to pointing Stefan at this demented thread:
Music Into Noise: The Destructive Use Of Dynamic Range Compression
But you know, it all sounds good to me. CDs/LPs/mp3s. Maybe its all the years listening to 'noise'.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:41 (three years ago) Permalink
― am0n, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:40 (three years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 October 2013 18:25 (three years ago) Permalink
wow that photo
― ṿῗᾄǤℝᾄ (am0n), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:14 (three years ago) Permalink
I CANNOT get over that photo, it's like a photo of the band one garage over from Husker Du and Soul Asylum circa 1981.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 October 2013 19:16 (three years ago) Permalink
haha pretty accurate
― ṿῗᾄǤℝᾄ (am0n), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:22 (three years ago) Permalink
Thanks for pulling that out Ned - enjoyed that, apart from a few errors that should be edited out from the text.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 October 2013 19:33 (three years ago) Permalink
sure, the lack of photographic evidence of this lot spurs images of black-draped easter island goliaths, but seeing them as average late 80s stoner college students makes perfect sense, the guys in that picture were hanging out in every college radio breakroom in 1988
I'll have to post the skullflower interview I did w/ jaworzyn back in '90, it's been interesting to compare and contrast against the quietus piece
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:45 (three years ago) Permalink
haha yeah i wouldn't guess that was a band from England
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:23 (three years ago) Permalink
― What, me infallible? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 03:24 (three years ago) Permalink
skullflower interview from ugly american #6, 1990, sorry for all this long
Ugly American: Ed or GregStefan Jaworzyn: last of the rare breed
UA: When and under what circumstances did the band first form?
SJ: Can't recall exact details -- it was either late '85 or early'86. At first we were called Total (after a non-group ofmyself and a photographer named Hugh; the two of us tooksmack and groveled around on the floor making droning noiseswith various electronic bits... I suspect this did not soundvery dramatic). We sort of appropriated the name. The firstrehearsal was Matthew, Stuart, and myself. Strangely enough,this is also the current line-up.
UA: Was the absence of any info about the band on the recordcovers a deliberate attempt to shroud Skullflower in mystery?Or was it just cheaper to leave the names off?
SJ: The former, totally and utterly against any perspective Iwould consider sensible. Let's not dwell on that...
UA: What's up with your fluctuating line-up? Does it causedifficulties?
SJ: With the first line-up Matthew was too inept to play guitaror bass properly and sing at the same time, so in came aperson named Binnie (now a tattooist and also on the new LP),long-time associate of Matthew and who'd been in a bandcalled Pure (Matthew and Binnie, no music, lots of screamingand background noise). Binnie played one-note bass for quitea while. Gary Mundy from Ramleh (weedy contemporaries ofWhitehouse) somehow entered on guitar, so for some time itwas thus: Matthew, vocals and occasional bass or guitar bits;Binnie, bass; Gary, guitar: Stuart, drums; me, guitar. Thiswas the line-up for a 12" we recorded but never released. Oneof the tracks on the unreleased session has mutated into"Wave", the 27-minute number on the new LP.
The fluctuating line-up has only caused difficulties if it'sbeen Stuart the drummer who failed to materialize - Matthewhas had to fill in on drums a couple of times (which actuallyended up pretty good -- results are on the CD, "Black AssBone" and "Elephant's Graveyard"). We've had Steve Throwerfrom Coil in on drums a couple of times. We've also had amutant called JFK on bass on the two above tracks. The stuffhe played was real good but he's not the kind of person youreally want to have to look at or converse with, so what thefuh... I don't think there was ever any idea of a concreteline-up as such and most of the time things have worked outmore than satisfactorily.
UA: Where, how, and on what do you record?
SJ: We record whenever, at a small studio in south London on8-track. It was once a month for a while, but things as theyare it isn't anymore.
UA: Do you have a legion of fans?
SJ: Don't know about fans. If there are any they're thankfullyreasonably silent. There are a couple of worthless losers whomouthed off that they were "friends" -- one of 'em is the UKequivalent of McGonigal (actually even worse if truth betold) and ought to be shot on sight. But fate always dealsthese dickweeds a losing hand and will strike 'em down withcancer pronto.
UA: Is appearing on the cover the New Music Express one of yourgoals in life? Have you been ignored by the English press?
SJ: Don't be silly. What exactly constitutes the English musicpress? If you mean the weeklies, then what difference does itmake if they ignore you anyway? We're not in this to hypeourselves up so we can sign to a major label and consequentlyspend all the time complaining about how shitty they are...
UA: Are you, Stefan, the main curley-q about which theSkullflower members nebulate? Are you the main man? TheSvengali? Or is this a troop effort?
SJ: No. No. No. Sort of.
UA: What equipment is used during the average Skullflowersession?
SJ: Various shitty guitars and decaying amps. Borrowed drum kit.Effects: Electro-Harmonix Big Muff, Memory Man, Graphic Fuzz,and a creation called the Frequency Analyzer, which has beendistorted beyond belief by some freak who wired it up formain supply and overloaded it so much it sounds like purehell. The guitar on "Slaves" on the new LP is going throughit. Other shit: Yamaha digital echo and sampler (v. cheap)and Super Tone-Bender by (I think) Colour sound or something.Gary uses the Ibanez distortion, one of the best. C/R whatelse.
UA: Do you play live often? What are your shows like? Hypnotic orcheesy?
SJ: Have only played live 2 1/2 times. Once with Gary, Matthew,Stuart, and myself. We were called Total then still. Verynoisy. Once with only me and Matthew (the 1/2 time) and oncesupporting losers AC Temple, with Matthew, Stuart, and myselfon "Slaves", then joined by Binnie for "Wave". Both werelong. The tape didn't come out. Typical.
UA: Do you suck blood? Are you in fact a vampire?
SJ: Haven't sucked on anything for simply ages, sweety pie.
UA: From what influences and chemicals does Skullflower deriveits go-power?
SJ: Musical influences are whatever you want them to be. Surelyyou don't want me to drone on about what I/we listen to? Weall have totally different musical tastes anyway.
Used to take plenty of L at recording sessions. Much of thefirst 12" and Form Destroyer was produced at all-nightersunder the influence of extremely bad acid we named WhiteLightning. Much teeth-grinding and unhappiness generated byit. Steve Thrower once freaked out completely on it whilelistening to us produce a 10 minute noise track (as yetunreleased). Recent sessions have been (for me at least)drugless to a large extent and have taken place in daytime.
The acid is okay for recording but it fucks you up for mixingproperly. Haven't been able to take speed for fuckin' yearsnow and getting hold of smack A) involves dealing with theworld's worst subhumans and B) turns you into one when youtake it, which don't leave a lot of options.
UA: What are the band member's histories?
SJ: Matthew: Sulphur of Lions (supported the Biting Tongues acouple of times, I believe), Pure. Former included Stuart,latter included Binnie. Maybe something else but you don'tcare. Me: couple of live gigs in Whitehouse and alsocurrently involved in the regenerated Whitehouse, probable UStour in September. Gary: Ramleh, as I mentioned before. Alsoin Breathless, who you might have heard of. Very big inItaly. Oh. Binnie played on a Zos-kia single. Both Binnie andmyself played a live gig in Zos-kia (something I'm sure manypeople would rather forget). We've all played in varioushorrible groups that sort of formed our approaches. Generallyquite fun but nothing of "significance".
UA: Is Skullflower the next evolutionary step in music?
SJ: Yes. No.
UA: Are you a member of the Temple of Psychick Youth?
SJ: Are you serious? I wouldn't let my dork anywhere near thatlot.
UA: How much control do you have over what you are doing? Couldthe band reproduce "Elephant's Graveyard" note-for-note? Ordo you concentrate more on tone and mood?
SJ: There's only a couple of numbers we've tried to reproduce.Obviously it wouldn't be possible to reproduce anythingnote-for-note. Everything we do is improvised to variousdegrees. Usually a quick one-time run-through, then recordit. Only "Slaves" and "Wave" have been with us for a longtime. "Slaves" was actually performed by Pure many times. I'dsay it's almost entirely concentrating on mood and tone. Itis, however, an approach I find increasingly dissatisfying.
There comes a certain point when "notes" are called for andif that's the case I want them in tune with the bass. Thewall of sound still works (you'll hear evidence of both thesepaths on the new LP), but I think there's a danger of gettingstuck in a rut with recording that way all the time.
UA: Ever shot heroin with Sonic Boom?
SJ: Ever shot my wad in Sonic's bum? Pardon? What kind of asleazeball do you think I am?
UA: Do you people have jobs? Or do you live in the woods and eatJabberwockys?
SJ: Some do. I don't. Matthew now lives in the Lake District andis having to do shit work to survive. Stuart works at ascreen printers. Can't remember exactly what Gary does,civil service or the post office or something... I run afucking film festival and Shock Records, also edit ShockXpress mag, do some odd bits of writing, fuck knows whatelse. Ain't had a proper job for some time, to be honest.
UA: Ever been to Stonehenge?
SJ: Once. It was horrible. I ate loads of hash and wanderedaround amongst nude hippies until I freaked out and returnedto the truck we'd gone in. Hitched home the next daycompletely stoned and got off on the wrong bit of motorway.Never again (this was about '79).
UA: Do you see Skullflower making a trip to America?
SJ: Highly unlikely. Where's the fuckin' filthy clams?
UA: Will your records be released in the U.S.?
SJ: Released by whom? Some clown whose name I won't mention(actually Ernie at Circuit) tried to get me to license the7", the new LP, and CD to him for a price I wouldn't offer toa wino in the street. I think stuff's getting over thereslowly on import. Xaman will be out sometime in September.There's also a 7" out from Majora, who put out the Sun CityGirls' (one of my absolute favorite groups) last couple ofreleases. Also looks fairly certain to be a Forced Exposuresingle before too long. Both will obviously be reasonablyeasily available in the U.S. There'll hopefully be a CD ofXaman, too, with a couple of extra things. The LP has threetracks on side one, one on side two. There's some stuff wecouldn't fit onto the album -- Majora have got one of thosetracks for their 7" -- and an old number we did at the veryfirst recording session which I got back from RRRecords whodidn't use it. It's one of our faves, so that'll be on theCD.
UA: How many copies of the first EP, Form Destroyer, the 7", andthe CD were printed up? Will there be more printed for thosehopping on the bandwagon too late?
SJ: First EP: 500. Form Destroyer: approx. 600. "Bottomless Pit"7": 500 plus a not-for-sale edition of 75. CD: 1,000, thoughhopefully it will stay in print. I consider that to be thedefinitive edition of Form Destroyer, which I hated the mixof on vinyl. Likewise the last EP. The 7" will be availableon a CD compilation of the first five Shock singles, which'llalso have an extra track by each group. The new LP I guesswill be 1,000. The EP will hopefully remain out of print.Fuck the Form Destroyer LP anyway. Matthew repressed 300 orso of that, I think, so it's probably still available. Therewas supposed to be an info sheet I prepared for that. Neverwent in. Idiots requiring copies will only get them for twoIRCs.
UA: What are your plans for Shock?
SJ: Plenty. Maybe a new Strangulated Beatoffs 7". There's noshortage of material. I'm going to do some recording withTony Wakeford of Sol Invictus for a 7". A 7" from a new bandcalled Spasm, sort of a h/ c Hawkwind meets the Buttholes,which'll be produced by Steve Stapleton (Nurse With Wound).Possibly a new Current 93 7". I'd like to look further afieldto more avant-garde territory -- the Lol Coxhill LP is a stepin the direction I'd like to take, both for the label and theshit I do myself. I'm supposed to do some gtr on the nextNurse With Wound recording -- a 30 minute track of some sort.Main problem is that producing avant-fuck noise means slowsales means less records coming out. It's sort of frustratingto be sitting on stuff you want to put out but haven't gotthe money.
Shit I'd like to do (may, if all works out) is someBorbetomagus junk on CD and a compilation of material by theincredible Null/A.N.P. axis (monstrous Jap noise of thehighest calibre).
Anyway, what the fuck. Shock Xpress mag should mutate intobook form early next year. Every year I say I'll stop doingthe film festival but continue on... Things get out of handwith what you want to do, what you should do, and what youhave to do... But fuck, everything essentially sucks anyway,the world's a pit full of rancid horse piss and most people'slives need to be terminated real soon... End oftransmission...
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:54 (three years ago) Permalink
thanks for that!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:42 (three years ago) Permalink
tl;dr fun fact: matt bower played drums on "elephant's graveyard"
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:45 (three years ago) Permalink
I noticed that!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink
We've also had a mutant called JFK on bass on the two above tracks. The stuff he played was real good but he's not the kind of person you really want to have to look at or converse with
― ṿῗᾄǤℝᾄ (am0n), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:18 (three years ago) Permalink
JFK was an alias of anthony difranco, he was the bassist on IIIrd gatekeeper
lot of shots fired in that interview lol
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:11 (three years ago) Permalink
Thanks for pulling out the other interview.
He has a mixed relationship w/publicity. Wantng Skullflower as a group to be known a bit more, gain a visibility - at fanzine level, rather than getting to the mainstream music press - but then after splitting away not ever having a web presence at all, and he is fairly hostile to anything web (eBay etc.)
For a group that sounded quite improvised its surprising how far between their live appearances were. And its a bit of an untold tale how he got to acquire 'notes'. His work with Ascension etc isn't texturey at all. Look at Jason Pierce's attempts at imrpov by comparison. SJ really absorbed the free stuff he was listening to.
Shame that Borbetomagus comp never came to be. The Dead C comp issued on Shock is one of my favourites in a very underrated calatogue.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:30 (three years ago) Permalink
Yeah, kinda fashionable at the time to take pops at Mike McG iirc, which always seemed like some bullshit to me.
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:35 (three years ago) Permalink
I never dug the Ascension stuff as much as Skullflower, but SJ did an awesome interview in Marc Master's Crank Automotive zine that was big reading for me in college. Same issue had an equally epic Richard Youngs interview.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 04:17 (three years ago) Permalink
Stefan used to be a regular punter at the bookshop where I worked, and was always a really sociable dude (I'm not sure the humour behind a lot of his opinions comes across that well in these interviews.) One day he came in while I was playing 'Copy Shoot Cop' by Spiritualised. Stefan asked me what it was, and when I told him it was Spiritualised, he was REALLY disgusted (w/ me, w/ himself, w/humanity)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 08:45 (three years ago) Permalink
Copy Shop Cop
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 08:47 (three years ago) Permalink
― ṿῗᾄǤℝᾄ (am0n), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:07 (three years ago) Permalink
V good interview w/this guy in the wire. Repeats his hostility to vinyl.
Also pleased he had a not so favourable reaction to Funhouse.
Also lol @plans for a Derek Bailey solo alb to called One More Solo Album
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 February 2014 10:56 (three years ago) Permalink
Sad sad that never came out.
Playing tonight: http://www.cafeoto.co.uk/voice-and-guitar-beyond-tradition.shtm
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 March 2014 12:31 (three years ago) Permalink
kvetch #1: o great reissuers of skullflower, you serve a worthy and honored purpose, but why o why do you place bonus tracks at the beginning? that must be some pretty righteous shit if you think I need to hear any of it before "elephant's graveyard".
― j., Tuesday, 22 July 2014 20:45 (three years ago) Permalink
Last Shot At Heaven! up at Bandcamp with bonus trackhttps://skullflower.bandcamp.com/album/last-shot-at-heaven
― ringworm, Monday, 25 May 2015 10:16 (two years ago) Permalink
I don't think I've heard any Skullflower since 2008. Am I missing anything?
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 11 August 2017 11:56 (one week ago) Permalink
The KIno series of remasters?I think I gave up on them after that . I think I have Argon somewhere and could never get into it.Had the IIIrd Gatekeeper in its original cd form which I got in Dublin in the mid 90s and like muchly. Also really like Ramlegh's Homeless for some of the same reasons.mauy prefer Loop for better groove.BUt have got into the KIno volumes I bought recently. Mainly IV though.
― Stevolende, Friday, 11 August 2017 18:40 (one week ago) Permalink
despite it's questionable title, Homeless features one of my favorite songs from either group...Fagenders.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 August 2017 20:21 (one week ago) Permalink
fwiw a fag end is a cigarette butt in the UK
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:24 (one week ago) Permalink
hah. I feel better about it now.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 August 2017 23:33 (one week ago) Permalink
not like Ramleh never toyed around with some questionable stuff of course.
Ramleh's Circular Time 2cd from a few years back is well worth checking out... massive grooves, kinda noisy but earth-moving.
I actually just got all of the Kino CDs (I had Form Destroyer and Xaman on vinyl already but bonus traxx)! Was kind of wondering if he had gotten out of his uninteresting, headache-inducing black metal inspired phase 'cause I liked og Skullflower. I liked the weird, Krauty stuff he did in the later Sunroof! era and the first revival of Skullflower. I loved the weird, acoustic drone stuff he did for a while. But that shrieky shit makes me check out fast.
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:32 (one week ago) Permalink
― 👁 (am0n), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:02 (six days ago) Permalink
I was hoping someone else had already spent weeks trawling through the Bandcamp but anyway
Pretty listenable excepting some moments of high pitched feedback, but the last song is really cool... twisty organ loop into some epic guitar fuzz arching into the blastosphere. Kinda Sunroof! or Total vibes.
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 20 August 2017 08:46 (yesterday) Permalink
oh cool, sunroof! still one of my all time favorites even though i haven't kept up
― the late great, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:28 (yesterday) Permalink
though imo his peak is youngsbower
― the late great, Sunday, 20 August 2017 17:29 (yesterday) Permalink
Yeah Youngsbower was amazing. Sigh. Why no Youngsbower 2?
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 20 August 2017 23:52 (yesterday) Permalink
That period where like Boredoms VCN and Super AE vibes and also Krautronic burbling melodies were influencing Bower was primo