songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

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I saw the Prodigy last night and was surprised to find out that the biggest reaction wasn't for "Breathe" or "Firestarter" or "Poison", but for "Smack My Bitch Up." I checked on iTunes and it's their biggest selling track! Sometime in the last 10 years it became their legacy track. How? Why? What other bands is this true?

so, yeah. Please cross-reference with iTunes for this.

1. Prodigy - "Smack My Bitch Up"

donky tonk women (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

great thread idea, i definitely have sat around and figured this out w/ a few bands, will have to look some up when i get home tonight

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

would be interesting to cross-reference this with licensing

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

like maybe in the long run that impacts sales more than radio/video play

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

my guess is that there are a large number of people out there who did not know the band Prodigy but knew there was a song called "Smack My Bitch Up"

fight the real NME (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

i always thought smack my bitch was the big prodigy song!!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

it wouldn't have sold as well as nearly half their other 90s songs esp. the two #1s

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

notoriety was helped by banned video, no?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

2. Elton John - "Tiny Dancer"
^^ someone can doublecheck this and refute it if necessary since i'm looking at a cached browser page of his top iTunes songs, but that's a very prominent example of a song that movie licensing turned into a much bigger part of the artist's legacy than it had been before

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

wouldn't be surprised if 'Wonderwall' was biggest-selling Oasis song online (was probably their biggest hit in the US if not in the UK tho)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Don't have iTunes right here, but just guessing on a few...

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Lou Reed - Perfect Day

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Bohemian Rhapsody" benefitted from the 90s re-release and Wayne's World, but it was always one of their biggest hits, I gotta veto that. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Perfect Day? It must still be "Walk on the Wild Side"

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Journey's only two top 5 songs in the US were "Open Arms" and "Who's Crying Now."

"Don't Stop Believing," meanwhile, is the biggest-selling catalogue track in iTunes history.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

no way was bohemian rhapsody a bigger hit than "another one bites the dust" or "crazy little thing called love"

What about "Son of a Preacher Man" by Dusty Springfield?

obv I don't know the UK chart stuff much, but was that actually her biggest hit?

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

ooh good call, put a 3 on that. xpost re journey

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Bohemian Rhapsody" held a sales record in the UK for almost a decade and was Queen's first US top 10. I would say songs that establish a band on that level count as one of their biggest hits whether there are higher charting songs or not.

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Not in the U.S., where No. 1 hits "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (!) and "Another One Bites The Dust" both charted higher. (So did "We Are The Champions," at first, but then "Rhapsody" came back in 1992 and hit No. 2 off of Wayne's World; it had only hit No. 9 on its original release.)

The Romantics' legacy song is almost certainly "What I Like About You" (big jock-rock hit, right?), though in their lifetime "Talking In Your Sleep" charted way higher (No. 3, compared to No. 49.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah that's really interesting, i don't think i've ever even heard "Talking In Your Sleep" but I've heard "Like" a million times. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

this icon should be next to all these songs in the iTunes store: http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think I've heard those 2 about an equal # of times--but I guess "Like" is more of a party song.

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

Yeah, I think "Sweet Caroline" and "Cherry Cherry" are both more famous today than "Song Sung Blue" or "Cracklin' Rosie" -- but they were all in the top 5.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Freebird? That's certainly Skynyrd's legacy song, but probably not their biggest iTunes seller (Sweet Home Alabama?).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

(Meant to add "Song Sung Blue" and "Cracklin' Rosie" were his only two solo #1s.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

usually a soundtrack or placement in a television show will raise a song out of the bands "hits" into a totally different demographic

cutty, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, March 27, 2009 1:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah but "Rebel Yell" and "White Wedding" are both bigger iTunes sellers

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

i mean this could very easily turn into "early hits that established a band's identity but didn't chart as high as later singles when they were more famous" list and get away from the original idea

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah that's true

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

i was more just shocked that that hadn't even charted at the time, being how catchy it was and all

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Should I Stay or Should I Go?"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

...

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

"In Your Eyes" was released as a US single, peaking at #26 Billboard Hot 100 and #1 Billboard Mainstream Rock in 1986.

Say Anything gave "In Your Eyes" a second chart run in 1989, but it peaked at #41. No Top 40 for you!

...and became PG's first certified Gold single in 2005 lol

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Only You" did marginally better than "Situation" on the US charts (67 vs. 73) and much better on the UK charts (2 vs. wasn't even released), but "Situation" seems much more like Yaz's legacy song.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Born to Run!" Peaked at #23.

(Well, technically it's outsold by "Radio Nowhere" on iTunes, but I think that was thanks to some "Magic" promotion)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah acts with recent singles kinda skew this, but i think it's safe to assume "Born To Run" ultimately sells more than "Radio Nowhere"

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh oh oh!

"American Girl" was the second single off Tom Petty's debut album, after "Breakdown," but did not even chart.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Radiohead. Creep is their biggest hit, but probably not their "signature" song. NOt sure what is, though.

Bruce's biggest chart hit is Dancing In The Dark

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Creep" is Radiohead's legacy song to millions of non-Radiohead fans

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what Bob Marley's legacy song is, but I have a feeling that "Roots, Rock, Reggae" (his only U.S. Hot 100 hit, peaking at # 51) isn't it. It might not even be in the Top 10.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

(Well, Marley has lots of Legacy songs, obviously. Or at least an album full of them.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Cheap Trick's only #1 is "The Flame." ("I Want You to Want Me" was #7, "Surrender" #62.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

What about remixes doing this with a song? Because Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side until it became like their biggest song (v. walk this way obv.)

Also presumably this must have happened by tunes that were sampled a bunch, although none come to mind immediately.

there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

'Hallelujah' wins this thread, surely?

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side

Not really. It was on side one of the 12-inch, and came before "Sucker MCs"; ditto with the instrumentals on side two:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=257372

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

How do I find out Itunes sales numbers? Is there some page for them?

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Talking Heads. Their biggest charting US single is Wild Wild Life. Biggest in UK is Road To Nowhere. Their signature/legacy song is clearly Once In A Lifetime, which never even charted.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

I tried to a search for a specific tune on the Itunes store, but when I click on the song name, I'm thrown back to the Apple store home page.

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Motley Crue's Kickstart My Heart has 100 million plays, which is nearly twice as any as Dr. Feelgood and Girls, Girls, Girls. Both charted in the top 10, while Kickstart peaked at #27.

we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:10 (three months ago) Permalink

That’s weird. I’m going to guess it’s video game related.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:18 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i haven't checked the numbers, this is purely anecdotal/my perception, but it feels like "naive melody (this must be the place)" has become a signature talking heads song over the past ... 10 years? overtaking stuff like "psycho killer" or "burning down the house" as one of the big talking heads songs. i heard it at a major league baseball game a couple of weeks ago.

na (NA), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"home is where i want to be but i guess i'm already there"--a literal description of hitting in baseball.

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It is their Number 2 song on Spotify, above Once in a Life and BDTH, but below Psycho Killer. wtf

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's a great song so maybe it's just been a slow burn

genuine lol at voodoo chili's comment

na (NA), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

voodoo chili, also consider that "It's like butter" is a really succinct description of margarine.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Earth, Wind & Fire's "September" seems the epitome of this.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

TMBTP is also a fairly popular wedding song.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xxp i can't believe it

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

of course it's a popular wedding song, who can be unmoved by the romantic memory of david byrne dancing with a floor lamp

na (NA), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

when i got into talking heads TMBTP was the one song, aside from once in a lifetime and road to nowhere, that i recognized from having heard it on the radio as a kid.

visiting, Friday, 26 April 2019 16:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is def one of the bigger shifts and weirder ones to someone like me who knew "burning down the house" from references in FoxTrot comics before i ever heard of the band. certainly knew that one and "take me to the river" and "and she was" and even "wild wild life" long before TMBTP or Psycho Killer.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 April 2019 17:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I posted this 6 years ago in a Talking Heads "Speaking in Tongues" Poll thread: In the continuing Great-American-Songbook-ization of "This Must Be the Place," husband-and-wife cabaret stars John Pizzarelli & Jessica Molaskey's recent show opens with a duet/medley of "TMBTP" and the Beatles' "Two of Us."

of course it's a popular wedding song, who can be unmoved by the romantic memory of david byrne dancing with a floor lamp

It was the first dance for me and my wife Olive Oyl.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 April 2019 04:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Well blow me down

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 April 2019 05:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

From a UK perspective the three most recognisable Talking Heads songs (as in, recognisable to people who haven't heard of I Zimbra or whatever) are Once In A Lifetime, Psycho Killer and Road To Nowhere. Probably because they were either hits (PS & RTN) or the early breakthrough song (PK). This Must Be The Place etc kind of deeper cuts, relatively speaking.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 27 April 2019 08:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It was on Shawn Colvin's covers album in 1994, and some versions out there resemble hers more than the Heads's.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Once In A Lifetime, Psycho Killer and Road To Nowhere

These + "Burning Down the House" were the ones I always thought of as their biggest songs.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 April 2019 12:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I've been amazed at how big a radio/Muzak staple "And She Was" has become.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 April 2019 12:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

“Nothing But Flowers” felt inescapable at the time but really hasn’t entered the radio canon

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Saturday, 27 April 2019 13:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the new yorker on this must be the place in 2012:

Thirty years old this year, the song has slowly but surely embedded itself in the American songbook. You can’t walk into a good bar between Williamsburg and Silver Lake without an even shot that it will come on the stereo in some iteration. Lately, it’s been covered by Arcade Fire, MGMT, and the jam band The String Cheese Incident, among others. There are books named for it. Hip brides march down the aisle to it. It’s quoted in mawkish editorials. And last year, “This Must Be the Place” was made into a movie.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"home is where i want to be but i guess i'm already there"--a literal description of hitting in baseball.

― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Friday, April 26, 2019 8:30 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

posts like this are why i love ilx

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I remember being a Talking Heads fan and not being really aware of TMBTL being "a great song" and having it slowly introduce itself to me. Wasn't there a second theatrical release of Stop Making Sense around 2003 or something?

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This thread is funny also, Trainspotting really was that soundtrack I guess!

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

My wife fell in love with TMBTP after hearing an Iron & Wine cover of it

jaymc, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Huh, the earliest cover of it, aside from Shawn Colvin in 1994, was Arcade Fire in 2005. I absolutely introduced that song to Win

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I played it at a wedding two weeks ago.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Sean Hayes: https://youtu.be/2xiHWKdNZto

This version is notable for how committed the guitar player is to replicating all the keyboard bits exactly. I just wanna tell him "dude, relax, it's not a sacred relic."

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"home is where i want to be but i guess i'm already there"--a literal description of hitting in baseball.

― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Friday, April 26, 2019 8:30 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

posts like this are why i love ilx

― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:19 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I didn’t know all this business about “This Must Be the Place”… interesting, it’s a pretty understated song to become a new “standard.”

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It's a nice love song if you cherry-pick the words that support your thesis and ignore the words that don't. The same can be said of the Mueller report tbf.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 April 2019 22:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Sing into my mouth" has always meant a lot to me

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 27 April 2019 22:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the song has like 7 hooks, I'm amazed it wasn't recognized as one of their greatest achievements until relatively recently

flappy bird, Saturday, 27 April 2019 23:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think the vocals don’t start until like a 1:00 in, which is another unusual feature for a popular song.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 27 April 2019 23:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

More songfacts: same three chords the whole way through, despite the varied vocal melody. There was some wacky instrument-switching (Tina on guitar and David on keys etc.)...

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

each instrument/voice is introduced incrementally, as in "Just Like Heaven," which occupies the same space in the culture as TMBTP

flappy bird, Sunday, 28 April 2019 01:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Wow... feel like fgti/Arcade Fire had a lot to do with the resurgence of that song... and making Talking Heads into an Important Band for the young '00s indie set as well

maffew12, Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

um

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I Know, Right?

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 05:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There was some wacky instrument-switching (Tina on guitar and David on keys etc.)...

I may be misremembering, but isn't the playing of unfamiliar instruments part of the reason for calling it "Naive Melody"?

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 28 April 2019 06:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ok, mid 00s. jeez.

maffew12, Sunday, 28 April 2019 06:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The SMS/live version of TMBTP with Jerry on minimoog key-bass & Alex Weir on guitar absolutely destroys the LP version.

/startrekman

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 28 April 2019 09:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Most-played Sonic Youth songs on Spotify, in order:
Teen Age Riot, Superstar, Kool Thing, Incinerate (!). Highest modern rock chart placements, in order: 100%, Kool Thing, Bull in the Heather, Teenage Riot, Superstar

Was "Incinerate" in a movie or something? I do really like it but I had no idea it was this popular. Is this "Superstar" thing about Juno? "Teen Age Riot" was in one of those Rock Band video games, right?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Don’t know about a game, but I do feel like “Teen Age Riot” has become their signature song over time.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:46 (one week ago) Permalink

(Or to put it another way — the first three hits you listed feel very “of their time,” but not timeless...)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Teen age Riot was the first of thir time and timless song i heard

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 May 2019 03:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Tbc, I wasn't extremely surprised about "Teen Age Riot"; I just thought it was a good example for the thread. I was surprised about "Incinerate" and to a slightly lesser extent about the Carpenters cover.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 May 2019 03:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I would have assume top three 100% Bull in the heather Superstar

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 May 2019 04:11 (one week ago) Permalink

The popularity of the Carpenters cover is definitely due to Juno

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Sunday, 12 May 2019 04:11 (one week ago) Permalink

I'll grant that reaching #26 on the alternative/modern rock chart in 1994 probably meant more in terms of popularity/exposure than reaching #20 in the same chart in 1989.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 May 2019 04:59 (one week ago) Permalink


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