songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

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I saw the Prodigy last night and was surprised to find out that the biggest reaction wasn't for "Breathe" or "Firestarter" or "Poison", but for "Smack My Bitch Up." I checked on iTunes and it's their biggest selling track! Sometime in the last 10 years it became their legacy track. How? Why? What other bands is this true?

so, yeah. Please cross-reference with iTunes for this.

1. Prodigy - "Smack My Bitch Up"

donky tonk women (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

great thread idea, i definitely have sat around and figured this out w/ a few bands, will have to look some up when i get home tonight

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

would be interesting to cross-reference this with licensing

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

like maybe in the long run that impacts sales more than radio/video play

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

my guess is that there are a large number of people out there who did not know the band Prodigy but knew there was a song called "Smack My Bitch Up"

fight the real NME (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

i always thought smack my bitch was the big prodigy song!!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

it wouldn't have sold as well as nearly half their other 90s songs esp. the two #1s

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

notoriety was helped by banned video, no?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

2. Elton John - "Tiny Dancer"
^^ someone can doublecheck this and refute it if necessary since i'm looking at a cached browser page of his top iTunes songs, but that's a very prominent example of a song that movie licensing turned into a much bigger part of the artist's legacy than it had been before

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

wouldn't be surprised if 'Wonderwall' was biggest-selling Oasis song online (was probably their biggest hit in the US if not in the UK tho)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't have iTunes right here, but just guessing on a few...

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Lou Reed - Perfect Day

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Bohemian Rhapsody" benefitted from the 90s re-release and Wayne's World, but it was always one of their biggest hits, I gotta veto that. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Perfect Day? It must still be "Walk on the Wild Side"

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Journey's only two top 5 songs in the US were "Open Arms" and "Who's Crying Now."

"Don't Stop Believing," meanwhile, is the biggest-selling catalogue track in iTunes history.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

no way was bohemian rhapsody a bigger hit than "another one bites the dust" or "crazy little thing called love"

What about "Son of a Preacher Man" by Dusty Springfield?

obv I don't know the UK chart stuff much, but was that actually her biggest hit?

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooh good call, put a 3 on that. xpost re journey

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Bohemian Rhapsody" held a sales record in the UK for almost a decade and was Queen's first US top 10. I would say songs that establish a band on that level count as one of their biggest hits whether there are higher charting songs or not.

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Not in the U.S., where No. 1 hits "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (!) and "Another One Bites The Dust" both charted higher. (So did "We Are The Champions," at first, but then "Rhapsody" came back in 1992 and hit No. 2 off of Wayne's World; it had only hit No. 9 on its original release.)

The Romantics' legacy song is almost certainly "What I Like About You" (big jock-rock hit, right?), though in their lifetime "Talking In Your Sleep" charted way higher (No. 3, compared to No. 49.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that's really interesting, i don't think i've ever even heard "Talking In Your Sleep" but I've heard "Like" a million times. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

this icon should be next to all these songs in the iTunes store: http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think I've heard those 2 about an equal # of times--but I guess "Like" is more of a party song.

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

Yeah, I think "Sweet Caroline" and "Cherry Cherry" are both more famous today than "Song Sung Blue" or "Cracklin' Rosie" -- but they were all in the top 5.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Freebird? That's certainly Skynyrd's legacy song, but probably not their biggest iTunes seller (Sweet Home Alabama?).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Meant to add "Song Sung Blue" and "Cracklin' Rosie" were his only two solo #1s.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

usually a soundtrack or placement in a television show will raise a song out of the bands "hits" into a totally different demographic

cutty, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

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yeah but "Rebel Yell" and "White Wedding" are both bigger iTunes sellers

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean this could very easily turn into "early hits that established a band's identity but didn't chart as high as later singles when they were more famous" list and get away from the original idea

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that's true

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was more just shocked that that hadn't even charted at the time, being how catchy it was and all

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Should I Stay or Should I Go?"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

...

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

"In Your Eyes" was released as a US single, peaking at #26 Billboard Hot 100 and #1 Billboard Mainstream Rock in 1986.

Say Anything gave "In Your Eyes" a second chart run in 1989, but it peaked at #41. No Top 40 for you!

...and became PG's first certified Gold single in 2005 lol

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Only You" did marginally better than "Situation" on the US charts (67 vs. 73) and much better on the UK charts (2 vs. wasn't even released), but "Situation" seems much more like Yaz's legacy song.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Born to Run!" Peaked at #23.

(Well, technically it's outsold by "Radio Nowhere" on iTunes, but I think that was thanks to some "Magic" promotion)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah acts with recent singles kinda skew this, but i think it's safe to assume "Born To Run" ultimately sells more than "Radio Nowhere"

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh oh oh!

"American Girl" was the second single off Tom Petty's debut album, after "Breakdown," but did not even chart.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Radiohead. Creep is their biggest hit, but probably not their "signature" song. NOt sure what is, though.

Bruce's biggest chart hit is Dancing In The Dark

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Creep" is Radiohead's legacy song to millions of non-Radiohead fans

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what Bob Marley's legacy song is, but I have a feeling that "Roots, Rock, Reggae" (his only U.S. Hot 100 hit, peaking at # 51) isn't it. It might not even be in the Top 10.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Well, Marley has lots of Legacy songs, obviously. Or at least an album full of them.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cheap Trick's only #1 is "The Flame." ("I Want You to Want Me" was #7, "Surrender" #62.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

What about remixes doing this with a song? Because Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side until it became like their biggest song (v. walk this way obv.)

Also presumably this must have happened by tunes that were sampled a bunch, although none come to mind immediately.

there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

'Hallelujah' wins this thread, surely?

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side

Not really. It was on side one of the 12-inch, and came before "Sucker MCs"; ditto with the instrumentals on side two:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=257372

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

How do I find out Itunes sales numbers? Is there some page for them?

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Talking Heads. Their biggest charting US single is Wild Wild Life. Biggest in UK is Road To Nowhere. Their signature/legacy song is clearly Once In A Lifetime, which never even charted.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I tried to a search for a specific tune on the Itunes store, but when I click on the song name, I'm thrown back to the Apple store home page.

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Came across a potential candidate for this thread today: Weezer's most popular song on Spotify by a wide margin is "Island in the Sun," the 9th highest charting single of their career.

It's almost twice as popular as "Say It Ain't So," their second most popular track ("Buddy Holly," which I would have pegged for #1, is third). It's their #1 iTunes song as well.

Not sure if it's their "legacy" song, but I was legitimately surprised that a song I pegged as "moderately well-liked" evidently towers over the rest of their catalogue in popularity.

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Tuomas, Friday, 28 October 2016 06:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Ctrl+f is your friend.

Tuomas, Friday, 28 October 2016 06:31 (one year ago) Permalink

not sure if there's a separate thread for most played on Spotify, but a song I don't even remember from Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill has 1.4 million plays compared to just over 1 million for "Heavy Water/I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (expected pick).

flappy bird, Monday, 7 November 2016 21:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Despite not being as commercially successful as its predecessor singles, "The Kids Aren't Alright" remains the most-listened to Offspring song amongst Last.FM[5] and Spotify (where it also is the most popular song of the 90s)[citation needed] users, and still receives some radio play.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 November 2016 05:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I've never heard of this song... Are they really claiming that it's the most popular song of the 90s in Spotify? Not just the most popular among the songs Offpsring released in the 90s?

Tuomas, Thursday, 17 November 2016 08:18 (one year ago) Permalink

In 2014 at least, their most popular 90s song was "Pretty Fly", as you'd expect.

Tuomas, Thursday, 17 November 2016 08:21 (one year ago) Permalink

I remember that song, it's a lot better than "Pretty Fly" but I'm still surprised it has 105,138,511 views on Youtube

niels, Thursday, 17 November 2016 09:56 (one year ago) Permalink

never heard of it either

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 November 2016 13:55 (one year ago) Permalink

it's a bit the opposite to this thread, sorry, but I just noticed that "crazy in love" is far from being Beyonce's song with the most plays on spotify (far behind "7/11", "Drunk in Love", "Halo", all above 220M while "Crazy in Love" is only at 144M).
surprising.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 17 November 2016 13:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Songs that were released and become hits in the Spotify era probably have a leg up on catalog songs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 November 2016 14:25 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, that's what I thought too but still surprised it's so far behind since it's (arguably) her legacy song.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 17 November 2016 14:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd put her a lot closer to the Madonna category where one single legacy song just doesn't apply. So Crazy In Love would be her Material Girl or Like a Virgin - early-to-mid-career, huge hit, strongly associated with her, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Like A Prayer or Papa Don't Preach or Vogue or even Ray of Light were more popular on Spotify.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 November 2016 15:11 (one year ago) Permalink

"like a prayer" far ahead (36M) with "material girl" 2nd (21M) ("like a virgin" very far behind with 16M).
Nah, like President Keyes said, it's clearly the difference between hits since spotify started/earlier hits.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 17 November 2016 15:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Still D.R.E. has 300 million views on youtube

it is a perfect song, but surely G Thang was the bigger hit?

niels, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

it came out at the exact time the first millennials were finishing high school and entering college

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh, I don't know if it's been said already but the Smiths have a good one : "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out"
by far their most popular on Spotify (60 millions with "This Charming Man" second with 47 millions)... and it was not their biggest hit since it wasn't even a single (while the band was in activity) !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

wtf when and how did this happen

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 1 December 2016 18:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It always seemed like There is a Light was THE the Smiths song, even if How Soon is Now got played on 120 Minutes a lot.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 December 2016 18:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

For me it's "Ask," it always was "Ask," it always will be "Ask"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 December 2016 18:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Honestly, of the ones in the top 5 on Spotify, "Bigmouth" at #5 is the only one I truly think of as in the conversation for legacy song

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 December 2016 18:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Ooh La La

http://i.imgur.com/UjC1ssa.png

niels, Friday, 5 May 2017 09:56 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"The Weight"? Peaked at 63 vs. 25 for "Up on Cripple Creek," but five times the Spotify plays.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 01:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Aretha Franklin's 1969 soul music arrangement peaked in the U.S. at #19

new noise, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:03 (four months ago) Permalink

but yeah that's a good example

new noise, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:04 (four months ago) Permalink

oh and

Jackie DeShannon's 1968 pop music arrangement, debuting on the Hot 100 one week before The Band's, peaked at #55 in the U.S

new noise, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:06 (four months ago) Permalink

"The Weight" is one of those songs that was an instant standard. Practically every interpretive singer who wasn't in the Sinatra school took a crack at it between '68 & '73-ish.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Seeing that Faces 'Ooh La La' up above - surely there must be many Faces 'Stay With Me's attributed to Rod splitting the vote?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 12:25 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Seems preposterous to suggest Big Yellow Taxi is Joni Mitchell's legacy song, nonetheless it's her top streamer

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 10:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Why preposterous? That song is much more likely to be known by the average person than any of her others.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

"Help Me" was a bigger hit at the time, but agreed that at the least the "choooo bop bop" was probably what the average radio listener would conjure up if asked to do a Joni Mitchell impression.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah help me has the chart placing but I'm guessing taxi has had more sales (it was rereleased) and certainly had far more radio play.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:34 (one week ago) Permalink

"Big Yellow Taxi" was in my Grade 7 English textbook!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:35 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd have guessed Both Sides Now would be her legacy song.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Big Yellow Taxi was the first song of hers i remember from my youth, so dang catchy. there have been a number of crappy modern covers so makes sense that would be her big song rn.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:20 (one week ago) Permalink

"Help Me" was a bigger hit at the time, but agreed that at the least the "choooo bop bop" was probably what the average radio listener would conjure up if asked to do a Joni Mitchell impression.

I've never heard of "Help Me" tbh.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2017 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

I would say "Both Sides Now".

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2017 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

! "Help Me" is wonderful. Essential LA-sound early 70s pop imo.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 12 November 2017 19:03 (one week ago) Permalink

totally, it's a perfect song

Why preposterous?

well, maybe not preposterous then but BYT is kinda one of her children's song songs imo, it's a decent song but not very representative

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:37 (one week ago) Permalink

'Big Yellow Taxi' is the first song that I think of whenever someone brings up Joni Mitchell, so I'm not surprised to hear that it's her most streamed song. I hate it, though.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I wouldn't say I hate it but the songs on fx Hejira and Hissing are on an entirely different plane

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:51 (one week ago) Permalink

It put me off checking out her other material for the longest time.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:59 (one week ago) Permalink

have to say though, first 100 times I heard the refrain was on the Janet Jackson song where it works perfectly imo, Q-Tip on point

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:26 (one week ago) Permalink

damn I would've thought "A Case of You" or "Woodstock"

flappy bird, Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Judy Collins' version of "Both Sides Now" is the one that reached the Top Ten in the US

Brad C., Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:08 (one week ago) Permalink

...and "Woodstock" has two competing hit covers w/CSNY and Matthews Southern Comfort.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Everyone's covered "Both Sides Now".

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Letters To Cleo: "I Want You To Want Me" (a Cheap Trick cover from 10 Things I Hate About You) way outpaces "Here And Now" on Spotify (5 mil spins vs. 1 mil)

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 November 2017 03:01 (three days ago) Permalink

...and their other 10 Things cover (Nick Lowe's "Cruel To Be Kind") is almost at 2 million.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 November 2017 03:03 (three days ago) Permalink

such a good movie

niels, Thursday, 16 November 2017 07:09 (three days ago) Permalink


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