songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

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I saw the Prodigy last night and was surprised to find out that the biggest reaction wasn't for "Breathe" or "Firestarter" or "Poison", but for "Smack My Bitch Up." I checked on iTunes and it's their biggest selling track! Sometime in the last 10 years it became their legacy track. How? Why? What other bands is this true?

so, yeah. Please cross-reference with iTunes for this.

1. Prodigy - "Smack My Bitch Up"

donky tonk women (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

great thread idea, i definitely have sat around and figured this out w/ a few bands, will have to look some up when i get home tonight

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

would be interesting to cross-reference this with licensing

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

like maybe in the long run that impacts sales more than radio/video play

s1ocki, Friday, 27 March 2009 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

my guess is that there are a large number of people out there who did not know the band Prodigy but knew there was a song called "Smack My Bitch Up"

fight the real NME (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

i always thought smack my bitch was the big prodigy song!!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 27 March 2009 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

it wouldn't have sold as well as nearly half their other 90s songs esp. the two #1s

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

notoriety was helped by banned video, no?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

2. Elton John - "Tiny Dancer"
^^ someone can doublecheck this and refute it if necessary since i'm looking at a cached browser page of his top iTunes songs, but that's a very prominent example of a song that movie licensing turned into a much bigger part of the artist's legacy than it had been before

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

wouldn't be surprised if 'Wonderwall' was biggest-selling Oasis song online (was probably their biggest hit in the US if not in the UK tho)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Don't have iTunes right here, but just guessing on a few...

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Lou Reed - Perfect Day

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

"Bohemian Rhapsody" benefitted from the 90s re-release and Wayne's World, but it was always one of their biggest hits, I gotta veto that. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Perfect Day? It must still be "Walk on the Wild Side"

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Journey's only two top 5 songs in the US were "Open Arms" and "Who's Crying Now."

"Don't Stop Believing," meanwhile, is the biggest-selling catalogue track in iTunes history.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

no way was bohemian rhapsody a bigger hit than "another one bites the dust" or "crazy little thing called love"

What about "Son of a Preacher Man" by Dusty Springfield?

obv I don't know the UK chart stuff much, but was that actually her biggest hit?

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

ooh good call, put a 3 on that. xpost re journey

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

"Bohemian Rhapsody" held a sales record in the UK for almost a decade and was Queen's first US top 10. I would say songs that establish a band on that level count as one of their biggest hits whether there are higher charting songs or not.

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Not in the U.S., where No. 1 hits "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (!) and "Another One Bites The Dust" both charted higher. (So did "We Are The Champions," at first, but then "Rhapsody" came back in 1992 and hit No. 2 off of Wayne's World; it had only hit No. 9 on its original release.)

The Romantics' legacy song is almost certainly "What I Like About You" (big jock-rock hit, right?), though in their lifetime "Talking In Your Sleep" charted way higher (No. 3, compared to No. 49.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's really interesting, i don't think i've ever even heard "Talking In Your Sleep" but I've heard "Like" a million times. xpost

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

this icon should be next to all these songs in the iTunes store: http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I think I've heard those 2 about an equal # of times--but I guess "Like" is more of a party song.

President Keyes, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

Yeah, I think "Sweet Caroline" and "Cherry Cherry" are both more famous today than "Song Sung Blue" or "Cracklin' Rosie" -- but they were all in the top 5.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

Freebird? That's certainly Skynyrd's legacy song, but probably not their biggest iTunes seller (Sweet Home Alabama?).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

(Meant to add "Song Sung Blue" and "Cracklin' Rosie" were his only two solo #1s.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

usually a soundtrack or placement in a television show will raise a song out of the bands "hits" into a totally different demographic

cutty, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

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yeah but "Rebel Yell" and "White Wedding" are both bigger iTunes sellers

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

i mean this could very easily turn into "early hits that established a band's identity but didn't chart as high as later singles when they were more famous" list and get away from the original idea

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's true

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

i was more just shocked that that hadn't even charted at the time, being how catchy it was and all

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

"Should I Stay or Should I Go?"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

...

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

"In Your Eyes" was released as a US single, peaking at #26 Billboard Hot 100 and #1 Billboard Mainstream Rock in 1986.

Say Anything gave "In Your Eyes" a second chart run in 1989, but it peaked at #41. No Top 40 for you!

...and became PG's first certified Gold single in 2005 lol

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

"Only You" did marginally better than "Situation" on the US charts (67 vs. 73) and much better on the UK charts (2 vs. wasn't even released), but "Situation" seems much more like Yaz's legacy song.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

"Born to Run!" Peaked at #23.

(Well, technically it's outsold by "Radio Nowhere" on iTunes, but I think that was thanks to some "Magic" promotion)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah acts with recent singles kinda skew this, but i think it's safe to assume "Born To Run" ultimately sells more than "Radio Nowhere"

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oh oh oh!

"American Girl" was the second single off Tom Petty's debut album, after "Breakdown," but did not even chart.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

Radiohead. Creep is their biggest hit, but probably not their "signature" song. NOt sure what is, though.

Bruce's biggest chart hit is Dancing In The Dark

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

"Creep" is Radiohead's legacy song to millions of non-Radiohead fans

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure what Bob Marley's legacy song is, but I have a feeling that "Roots, Rock, Reggae" (his only U.S. Hot 100 hit, peaking at # 51) isn't it. It might not even be in the Top 10.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

(Well, Marley has lots of Legacy songs, obviously. Or at least an album full of them.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Cheap Trick's only #1 is "The Flame." ("I Want You to Want Me" was #7, "Surrender" #62.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

What about remixes doing this with a song? Because Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side until it became like their biggest song (v. walk this way obv.)

Also presumably this must have happened by tunes that were sampled a bunch, although none come to mind immediately.

there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

'Hallelujah' wins this thread, surely?

James Mitchell, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side

Not really. It was on side one of the 12-inch, and came before "Sucker MCs"; ditto with the instrumentals on side two:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=257372

xhuxk, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

How do I find out Itunes sales numbers? Is there some page for them?

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Talking Heads. Their biggest charting US single is Wild Wild Life. Biggest in UK is Road To Nowhere. Their signature/legacy song is clearly Once In A Lifetime, which never even charted.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

I tried to a search for a specific tune on the Itunes store, but when I click on the song name, I'm thrown back to the Apple store home page.

Tuomas, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't see the movie, but that makes sense. But what about "Be Thankful..."?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 August 2020 13:56 (two months ago) link

the original, non-remixed william devaughn version of the song isn’t on spotify and the love version is a fairly faithful cover

3:10 to yur mom (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 August 2020 14:17 (two months ago) link

John Coltrane's top Spotify track by far is "In a Sentimental Mood" off the Coltrane and Ellington album.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 14:02 (two months ago) link

It's the top Ellington track too, natch. It must kick off some big playlist. Songbook Chill.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 17:34 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

"Ecstasy of Gold" by Morricone has double the plays of Good-bad-ugly title theme, an excellent result. Had no idea about the Metallica cover, that's pretty funny.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:48 (one month ago) link

was pretty surprised to find that the most popular john martyn song on spotify was his cover of portishead's 'glory box'

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:52 (one month ago) link

Strangely the top track for the Jeff Healey Band is not their huge hit “Angel Eyes” but a cover of My Guitar Gently Weeps

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:51 (one month ago) link

Surely it has been said already but I was surpised to find out "Halo" is Beyonce's most popular song on Spotify.
"Crazy in Love" , "Irreplaceable" or "Single Ladies" must have been bigger hits.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 September 2020 11:52 (one month ago) link

i think we have discussed Beyonce, and mostly explained this in terms of the earlier hits predating streaming. "Halo" also gets very regular airplay to this day ime.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 September 2020 11:56 (one month ago) link

("single ladies" of course is from the same album, that's a little more surprising to me.)

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 September 2020 11:57 (one month ago) link

Both of those were hits for Healy in Canada, along with several others, but I think "Angel Eyes" was the only one that made the general Billboard chart in the US?

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:27 (one month ago) link

"Angel Eyes" did peak higher than the cover but I think the latter lasted longer on radio?

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:29 (one month ago) link

My Guitar: Healey's version peaked at number 27 in Canada, number 85 in the UK and number 25 in New Zealand.

Angel Eyes made it to #5 on the Hot 100, #16 in Canada

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:37 (one month ago) link

Jeff Healey Band reached the Top 10 in Canada with the songs "I Think I Love You Too Much" and "How Long Can a Man Be Strong".

So even those two songs I've never heard were bigger than Gently Weeps in Canada

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:39 (one month ago) link

also, ahem:

it's a bit the opposite to this thread, sorry, but I just noticed that "crazy in love" is far from being Beyonce's song with the most plays on spotify (far behind "7/11", "Drunk in Love", "Halo", all above 220M while "Crazy in Love" is only at 144M).
surprising.

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Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:42 (one month ago) link

Crazy in Love is at 509M now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:45 (one month ago) link

In the UK Somebody Told Me and When You Were Young peaked higher than Mr. Brightside, which seems to basically be a national anthem at this point. Obviously, Mr. Brightside has that wild record of being in the Top 100 for 200 weeks or whatever, but I was surprised to see it wasn't their highest charting tune there.

triggercut, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:46 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah, tbc, I wasn't saying the "While My Guitar" cover was Healey's highest-charting hit anywhere - he's a good example for the thread. Tbh, I think the deal is probably just that his playing has held up better than his songwriting for people?

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:55 (one month ago) link

eheh, I'm getting old !
Funny, prior to posting that today I was wondering if it was possible to search for a word WITHIN a thread... but I didn't think about searching my own posts !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:56 (one month ago) link

i just load the whole thread and use Control-F, myself.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 September 2020 14:26 (one month ago) link

Good idea !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 September 2020 14:31 (one month ago) link

Let us not forget Jeff Healey's cameo in Road House.

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:50 (one month ago) link

I'm fascinated that the stray Metalica cover and new age chillout of The Mission soundtrack so drown out The Good, The Bad theme in Morricone's legacy. Hipster standards serve such a small audience in the grand scheme of things.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 24 September 2020 18:19 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm no Replacements expert but I really thought "I'll Be You" was far and away their biggest song. Only video of theirs I've seen on TV, only Billboard Hot 100 appearance. It is their NINTH-most streamed song on Spotify. "Swingin' Party", a song I'd never heard of, is #1. Apparently, Lorde covered it?

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:02 (two weeks ago) link

The Lorde cover goosed that one, yes. FWIW, despite being 'the hit', "I'll Be You" kind of faded away over time. I've rarely heard it as an 'oldie/flashback' track on Alternative Radio, and seems like when you do hear Replacements out in the wild (satellite radio, muzak etc), more often than not it's something from one of the three prior albums.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:17 (two weeks ago) link

i think it's even weirder that the second-most played song is "androgynous."

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:22 (two weeks ago) link

i love the song, but it's so atypical and not exactly a song that i think of when im thinking "i wanna listen to the replacements"

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:23 (two weeks ago) link

I feel like the subject matter and delivery of "Androgynous" might mean it's gotten a lot of listens from people who do not know or listen to the Replacements. I've never really delved into that band at all, but I know that song from a guy who sang it on an acoustic guitar as part of a school talent show.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:34 (two weeks ago) link

Based on Youtube comments, it seems to have been adopted as a trans anthem by a number of people.xp

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:35 (two weeks ago) link

that makes sense. it's just strange that the top two songs from one of the most famously shambolic rock bands of all time are two of their least rockin'

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:44 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, their #s 3-5 (Alex Chilton, Can't Hardly Wait & Bastards of Young) are the ones I'd assume to be their "legacy" songs

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

wd guess "Androgynous" being performed/championed by Joan Jett and Miley Cyrus helped it

Josefa, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:58 (two weeks ago) link

Towards the end of the song, you can hear Paul Westerberg sing the words "Jefferson's Cock". Occasionally, The Replacements would play gigs in Minneapolis under this name, with the band members wearing dresses.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:00 (two weeks ago) link

Ezra Furman also covered it

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

Where are "Men Without Ties" and "Waitress in the Sky"?

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:37 (two weeks ago) link

Kiss: "I Was Made For Lovin' You" has over 100 million more spins on Spotify than "Rock'n'Roll All Night"

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

It deserves them.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:32 (two weeks ago) link

their biggest hits--"Beth" (#7) and "Forever" (#8) not even in the top five on Spotify. What is that second one?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:41 (two weeks ago) link

maybe IWMFLY ends up in Spotify disco playlists, while IWRNRAL doesn't make it on classic rock playlists? just spitballing though.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:24 (two weeks ago) link

hello, hello, the world doesn’t begin and and with/in the US of A!

Chartwise, Kiss meant very little in most of the rest of the world before “I Was Made For Lovin’ You”. But that song was HUUUGE - because: disco. Number one here in the Netherlands (and possibly the biggest song of the year). So HUUUGE in fact that their only other top 10 hit here was follow-up single “Sure Know Something” (which didn’t even crack the top 40 in the US). The Dynasty album, their first album to chart here, went no 1 as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Made_for_Lovin%27_You#Weekly_singles_charts

And then there’s “Crazy Crazy Nights”, another US non-hit, which in ‘87 became their only major hit in the UK. It’s now their #5 song when it comes to Spotify streams.

So yeah, gentle reminder: the world is so much bigger than the US.

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:28 (two weeks ago) link

"Forever" is a Power Ballad from around 1990 or so.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

“I Was Made For Lovin’ You” was in Moulin Rouge

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:30 (two weeks ago) link

its cos the kids know Beth suuuuucks and Disco RUUUUULEZ

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:30 (two weeks ago) link

what can you do?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:36 (two weeks ago) link

"God Gave Rock n' Roll To You" was a UK hit too, tied in with the 2nd Bill & Ted movie. So both of their big UK hits were written or co-written with outside writers, which might be telling us something (as was I Was Made For Lovin' You too, thinking about it).

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

some early Kiss songs may suffer from stream splitting between the studio versions and the Alive versions

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:38 (two weeks ago) link

i have to say after growing up as a big Bill & Ted fan and only ever knowing it as a Kiss song, to have The Zombies suddenly start playing God Gave Rock N Roll To You at All Tomorrow's Parties was one of the weirdest things i've experienced live. major tonal whiplash in my brain.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:56 (two weeks ago) link

"Rock and Roll All Nite" is the only song of theirs I hear regularly on classic rock radio but yeah, seems like it wasn't their biggest hit anywhere. Going by Wikipedia, "Shout It Loud", a song I've never heard, went to #1 in Canada, apparently. "I Was Made for Loving You" = lol, though.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

Breastcrawl OTM, "I Was Made for Loving You" is by far the best-known Kiss song in Finland too.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:08 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, if you asked people in the UK to name a Kiss song imagine most would plump for Crazy Crazy Nights xps

groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 09:58 (two weeks ago) link


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