Screamadelica: the poll

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Alternate poll title: Rolling Stones vs Weatherall

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Come Together 13
Slip Inside This House 8
Higher Than the Sun 8
Don't Fight It, Feel It 7
Higher Than the Sun [A Dub Symphony In Two Parts] 7
Movin' on Up 6
Loaded 5
Damaged 2
Inner Flight 2
Shine Like Stars 1
I'm Comin' Down 0


ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

As much as I love the title track, I think it's all about Don't Fight It, Feel it.

The ILX Double Standard (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, no, it's the title track. Parts of this album have aged really, really badly - but the good bits are still SOOOO good that they seem to transcend all that. But then again, maybe it was a time and place.

When the drums kick in about 2:48 on Higher Than The Sun, it's still absolutely magical.

ARGH. DECISIONS. stop polling my misspent youth.

The ILX Double Standard (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

The title track is a b-side on the Dixie Narco EP, Kate; wotchoo talkin' abaht?

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

the title track isn't on the album tho

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

xpost

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

What am i thinking? this should be titled screaPOLLdelica

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

DFIFI was better as a single.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

ARGH. I meant Higher Than The Sun. Sorry, acid flashback, I'm losing my mind.

The ILX Double Standard (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

Voted for Slip Inside This House, although I love most of the things already mentioned pretty much as much.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

DFIFI was better as a single.

Isn't this true of all the tracks that were released as singles? Never really got into this album because of that.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

not true.

I liked the remix 12" of Don't fight it, it's not here.

Went for the dub symphony.

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't this true of all the tracks that were released as singles? Never really got into this album because of that.

― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:56 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i never really liked the farley/heller version of 'come together' but w. DFIFI basically the 7" mix is pure gold, whereas on the LP it's a bit unfocussed -- even less so than the 12" mix iirc. whereas they just put on the 12" mixes of 'come together' and 'loaded' which are both great. and they put on the 7" of 'higher than the sun' i think.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

This should be deluxified.

(You seen those latest Radiohead 3 disc versions of their first three albums?)

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

OH GOD I WOULD SO BUY A DELUXE OF THIS ALBUM.

Still can't make up my mind. Loaded is never as good as I remember it being.

The ILX Double Standard (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 10:05 (eleven years ago) link

"Higher Than The Sun". Combines melodic songsmith qualities with an interesting use of electronics to the best effect.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

I was thinking specifically of Come Together - I much preferred the single version of that to the album version - I ended up buying some US import of the Come Together EP to get it.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

time and overexposure has largely spoiled this record for me. loaded would be my first choice to listen to.. it was also the first primals i ever owned (though i heard ivy ivy ivy first)

Bad, Bad Memories of a Good Time (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

xpost yeah, and I think the elongated version of the single version was on one of the 12" singles (and nowhere else)

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite track from this always alternates. These days it's Slip Inside This House.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

Higher Than The Sun is their best song ever.

Even last month live when they turned the last third into a blues jam.

IRL Consequences by Godley & Creme (sic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

Come Together 4EVA!!!

Although this record is very dated

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

More love from me for the title track. I had it tightly wound in its entirety round one side of the Dixie Narco 7" - I'm amazed the needle didn't carve through the disc every time I played it

In its absence, 'Don't Fight It, Feel It' is the only one I ever listen to, so that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

Apart from Movin' on Up, Come Together & Loaded, I don't think this record is dated at all. Still sounds amazing at 3 in the morning. Voted for Shine Like Stars.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

htts (dub symphony)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

I could never get into this record- I don't know maybe you had to be there or something. Perhaps Kate's right that a lot of it has aged badly and by the time I heard it in the early 00's it just didn't sound so great- I actually like Vanishing Point better. Also, the original "Slip Inside This House" is far superior. I don't know, maybe I should give it a another listen one of these days.

ColinO, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Damaged ftw

Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

guess which one i'm gonna vote for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

it would be easier if you just told us.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

"I Belong to Glesga (Dear Auld Glesga Toon)"

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

but it's obvious which one i'm gonna vote for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Why would it be obvious to anyone but you?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

SOOO OBVIOUS, GOD

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

"A Plague of Shitehouse Keechers"?

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, until CM deigns to reveal all, I have a soft spot for "Slip Inside This House", but, I think it has to be "Higher Than The Sun [dub symphony]"

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

DFIFI because no Bobby lol

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

^^ same reason im probabyl going come together

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

here's what you've all been waiting for

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

come together, duh

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

you being a huge balearic guy, how could we not have guessed.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

it is also the best song called "come together" (non-controversial opinion imo)

(dude did you not see me repping for Studio lolz)

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes think this is the best British indie canon album of the 90s because it's got just enough sense of fun on board not just 'miserable splendour' like Loveless, Dummy, Maxinquaye etc.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

2nd-best song called "come together" = blur's come together

never did like spz one much and beatles is str8 overrated

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Annie's is better than all dat (not PS)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

jesus fkn christ there are 872 recorded "come together"s on allmusic

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

"Come Together" is the song that made me start hating Primal Scream.

the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

"Come Together" is a good Beatles song!

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

noooo

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

abbey road is an album that totally only becomes any good at "she's so heavy" and then remains very good for the remainder

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

I think we would all agree that.

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus, I didn't even mean Evil Heat; I meant Beautiful Future. That's how shitty Primal Scream are outside of Screamadelica, XTRMNTR, Vanishing Point, and a handful of other singles.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:25 (ten years ago) link

rubbish lyrics and everything, but im surprised 'im coming down' got naaathing. prefer it to damaged any day.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:45 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark

well at least im consistent

sharter the unstoppable ilx machine (history mayne), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:26 (ten years ago) link

beautiful future was hilariously reviewed by petridis*

*yeah i actually typed that

sharter the unstoppable ilx machine (history mayne), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:26 (ten years ago) link

there is a special reason why it was funny to me neway

sharter the unstoppable ilx machine (history mayne), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:26 (ten years ago) link

Evil Heat got 8/10 from NME.

(just googled to check the tracklisting: Autobahn 66 was alright in it's neuness...)

Mark G, Monday, 22 February 2010 11:28 (ten years ago) link

Someone in or around that band was incredibly good at Zeitgeist chasing and getting on the bandwagon at just the right time. Signs would point to Andrew Innes or someone at Creation as the obvious culprit.

It's quite curious how you can have a band who seem so easily led and give the impression of being too drugged up to care what is done to their music - and it ends up being exactly the *right* thing to get them credit for being on top of the wave rather than drowned behind it. But it all gives the impression of being astute business direction or luck rather than any calculated effort.

It's probably just nostalgia that makes me retain any element of affection for them. But the last time I saw them, last year, it was such a trip down memory lane of mine own musical experience that it was hard to hate them.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:29 (ten years ago) link

How to do a frankly BRILLIANT remix of PRML SCRM every time:

-Grab the bass riff. That will always be brilliant. Loop it and boost the sub-bass.
-Grab the guitar riff. Run it through a huge amount of delay and reverb so it's really psychedelic
-Add some wibble and sparkly psychedelic noises
-Erase as MUCH of Bobby Gillespie's voice as you can possibly get away with. The occasional "woo!" or "alright!" is OK but you do not want to allow him anything even approximating a tune
-Add some melodica to remind everyone how much they'd love to be New Order, if they were really from Manchester, maaaaaan
-Add some samples that scream "LSD!" - biker flicks or Indian strings or free jazz noise and sprinkle them in liberally

Now you're done. Stand back and watch the indie disco floor fill up.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:36 (ten years ago) link

Evil Heat's not a BAD record per se, just lacklustre after XTRMNTR.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:56 (ten years ago) link

Evil Heat is OK

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:59 (ten years ago) link

It's utterly brilliant compared to Riot City Blues ha ha.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:04 (ten years ago) link

Actually just put on Evil Heat and I had forgotten Deep Hit Of The Morning Sun was on this and not XTRMNTR. Oops.

The more I listen, the more I'm convinced that if this album were released a no vocals dub version I'd love it. But we're still on singles and haven't got to the album tracks yet.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:16 (ten years ago) link

DHOMS is pretty excellent, aye. The lead single was alright, too.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:30 (ten years ago) link

At MBVATP I left the actually-a-bit-boring Yo La Tengo to watch PS and they played XTRMNTR which was great but then they played something off one of the last two albums and it was awful, and then followed it with something else post-Evil Heat so I left.

They were awesome live when Kevin Shields was playing with them though.

useless chamber, Monday, 22 February 2010 12:48 (ten years ago) link

I actually just had to check that the last song was Bobby G whinging semi-soulfully and not Jason Pierce. That isn't a good sign.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 13:13 (ten years ago) link

The more I listen, the more I'm convinced that if this album were released a no vocals dub version I'd love it.

suspect i am the only person who listens to echodek more than any primal scream proper album ?

mark e, Monday, 22 February 2010 13:16 (ten years ago) link

I really really like Echo Dek, great little underappreciated semi-album!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 February 2010 14:23 (ten years ago) link

absolutely not, Echo Dek is by far my favorite Primal Scream disc. Head and shoulders above the other PS albums and one of the best 'dubs' of any album i've ever heard.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 22 February 2010 14:36 (ten years ago) link

'Vanishing Point' is the one for me. Some of the best and most inventive stereo panning I've heard, which is good because some of the songs are quite weak.

Seen the Scream plenty of times throughout the years. The best was probably on the 'Evil Heat' tour, despite the fact I'm not a huge fan of the album, it was great to see Kevin Shields. Thought it would've been the only chance to see him back then.

AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 22 February 2010 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Too bad we can't count on stereo panning to save more bad albums...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 February 2010 16:49 (ten years ago) link

Kate's remix summary* pretty nicely describes the recent Weatherall Uptown version

*bar the bemusing melodica line. Pablo was on the OG Star, and how much did New Order use melodica?

Saw them a year ago last weekend and they were good except a) everything off the last two and b) EVERY SONG had to turn into a blues jam at the end, even Higher Than The Sun

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Monday, 22 February 2010 16:54 (ten years ago) link

from twitter :

jagzkooner Oh and just to reiterate, the primal scream "screamadelica live" gig at earls court is a 1 off only, and WONT be repeated ever again.

mark e, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 00:28 (ten years ago) link

(those five Suede gigs I mentioned were in 2003, I just found out to my horror when I read the flier for their upcoming reunion)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:01 (ten years ago) link

whoever picked that photo wants shooting.

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:00 (ten years ago) link

And those are their first gigs for 10 years?

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:49 (ten years ago) link

that exact line up +1 other random played Glastonbury 2003. it was godawful aswell.

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:08 (ten years ago) link

'as well'? Bit harsh on the gigs that haven't taken place yet

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:12 (ten years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBWhYFS1Ao

Cunga, Thursday, 14 October 2010 16:59 (nine years ago) link

blocked

i was like a person at a table at a place (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:02 (nine years ago) link

Wow. This poll is totally backwards. Come Together is the worst song on here (along with Movin' on Up), and Coming Down is among the best.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:34 (nine years ago) link

BOOOOM

Ain't Too Proud to Neg (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/31/primal-scream-screamadelica-live

Brilliant stuff in here from this morning's Observer. 'Anyone seen Smiler?' The whole house stood up."

piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 05:23 (nine years ago) link

The article author seems to be really impressed and excited at any mention of drugs.

Just to take a couple of instances out of many mentions which don't add anything much to the article:

The gentler charms of "Damaged", "Shine Like Stars" and "Inner Flight" completed proceedings. Duffy was tripping on acid for the latter recording.

...Screamadelica was released on 23 September 1991, the cover a trippy image of the Sun created by Paul Cannell, another of the band's associates who was allegedly inspired by a damp patch he'd seen on the Creation offices ceiling after taking acid

and a whole quote from Q magazine:

In December, Miranda Sawyer reported for Q magazine on the band's rider at Barrowland in Glasgow: "Tonight's menu includes: 'glug' (methadone, a soporific heroin substitute); ecstasy (inhibition-dismissing, dancefloor friendly 'love' drug); amphetamine sulphate; magic mushrooms; cocaine and – backstage staple – hash. The varied and various mood alterants are liberally distributed among the tour regulars. 'You know,' muses Bobby, 'it was a love of music that brought us all together and that's what we really get excited about. But we also get excited when the drugs turn up... really excited.'"

Bob Six, Sunday, 31 October 2010 10:41 (nine years ago) link

Bobby Gillespie, waifish ringmaster of Primal Scream, who is dressed, none the less, all in black: black skinny jeans, black T-shirt, long black hair, only streaks of grey making him look any older than he did 20 years ago.

Um, no.

As someone who is rather an expert in what Bobby G looked like 20 year ago, um, really.... no.

Wheal Dream, Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:11 (nine years ago) link

Problem is, any time that I start to read any words that come out of Bobby Gillespie's mouth, I start to love that album a little less. Which is a real shame, so I try to avoid the interviews.

Wheal Dream, Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:20 (nine years ago) link

"Problem is, any time that I start to read any words that come out of Bobby Gillespie's mouth, I start to love that album a little less. Which is a real shame, so I try to avoid the interviews."

Typically a good idea for any musician one likes...

skip, Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:57 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/screamadelica452.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 27 November 2010 05:27 (nine years ago) link

i like primary colours

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Saturday, 27 November 2010 06:22 (nine years ago) link

Round Boxes, whoo!

Mark G, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:58 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

From the DVD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_XAFqvkpw

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 4 June 2011 04:00 (nine years ago) link

I've fallen in love with 'higher than the sun' since the reissue. Bobby's such a weak singer but somehow transcends this on many points throughout screamadelica. Love the melismatic delivery of the line 'what I've got in my head you can't buy'. Also love the 7" version of come together for similar reasons.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:36 (nine years ago) link

Funny how people upthread are saying this sounds dated - they're not wrong, but this is the first sign of a full scale stylistic revival

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:37 (nine years ago) link

The Screamadelica EP (with the eponymous track) is as good as anything they ever did, and still sounds great.

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:40 (nine years ago) link

Whoops, Dixie Narco EP I mean. Track is called "Screamadelica"

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:47 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Classic Albums - Screamadelica

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:00 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

perfect timing Scik as i'm about to see them in a few days here in Los Angeles.

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 September 2013 03:30 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

RIP Denise. This is great.

visiting, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:32 (one week ago) link

Really cool interview, thanks Visiting

Sad about this, she was so great with Primal Scream back in the day

Was just thinking about her solo single the other day. I bought it as a cassingle!

umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:47 (one week ago) link


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