La Roux - In For The Kill (Skream's Let's Get Ravey Mix)

why is she STILL running her pig-ignorant mouth?

A certain amount of controversy is good for sales. Plus, I'd think her opinions go down well with some teenagers, both male and female.

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^basically this - I mean I think there is such a thing as bad publicity but in a broad sense I'm not sure the shit she comes out with is capital-C Controversial

A million women or something read the Daily Mail every day and seem to get on OK with the undercurrent of self-loathing <amirite/>

haha based off the one song I heard, I feel like she says this shit because she knows her music sucks and is desperate not to lose media focus

haha lex the more you post of hers the more forgiveable i find her: i am developing a sense of why she says the things she says, and perhaps the ire has been blunted by repetition.

"Men write about women in a far more interesting way, and I try and take things from that. Women always cuss men in song; men write in a way that's more fragile, urgent and desperate."

this makes total sense in light of the canonical fact that she doesn't listen to r'n'b and thinks it's all "baby ooh i love you". She has noticed a lack of nuanced female perspective in the music she listens to: what she hasn't noticed is that, most likely, 80+% of the music she listens to has lyrics written by men reflective of the male heterosexual experience.

That is a pretty obvious fact to miss, is the thing.

i mean, it's not just that rnb has a lot more of a nuanced female perspective than indie does; it's also that her way of not-listening to rnb involves making a completely false assumption about the lyrical content.

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yeah but she's kind of, you know, not super bright about gender - kate is super super otm above with "the teenage tomboy who is suddenly burdened with a woman's body and the expectations that that body brings."

Even if she doesn't listen to R&B and she just listens to whiteboy indie all the time - it's still inexcusable to posit that females don't write interestingly about love in a world that contains, oh, PJ Harvey, Kristen Hersch, Marnie Stern, Tori Amos, Courtney Love, Joni Mitchell AND ON AND ON AND FUCKING ON.

My problem, like the Lex's, with her discussion of music is how utterly pig ignorant she comes across.

i hate when girls say they are "not a man-hating feminist or anything lol"

well, I hate it when anyone says that actually

i mean, it's not just that rnb has a lot more of a nuanced female perspective than indie does; it's also that her way of not-listening to rnb involves making a completely false assumption about the lyrical content.

ha so what you're saying is, it's ignorance on top of ignorance!

i also hate the defence which runs: oh, but we WANT our pop stars to say mad things and be mouthy in interviews! uh, no. la roux is as much of a crazy provocateur as lady gaga is an avant-garde artiste, ie not much. she's coming out with offensively ignorant and pretty conservative bullshit, and it's pissing people off, not entertaining them.

i only really care what pop stars say in interviews when it's me interviewing them. otherwise i'll be more than fine with great music thx.

ILX so much more evolved and enlightened than the rest of humanity, as usual

I'd say it was entertaining considerably more than it's pissing off. I'm sure plenty of her target (teenage) audience find it all very thought-provoking and exciting.

I think you're vastly underestimating the intelligence of teenage music fans there. (Or at least, based on experience of the ones that I know.)

Eh I've seen quite a lot of people clowning her about this but no-one holding it up as some sort of piercing insight... I might be looking in the wrong places I dunno

Well, I'm old enough to remember finding the things David Bowie spouted about this and that (incl. 'exploring' androgyny and gender) vaguely exciting. That's what it reminds me of.

I don't agree with what she says, by the way. I'm just reminded of certain things and I can imagine some 13 and 14 year olds going for it.

Oh come ON.

I mean, at least it was still actually trailblazing and shocking when Bowie did it, at a point in time where it was still fresh in most people's minds for homo/bisexuality to be a criminal offense?

Even 10, 15 however many years ago, I can remember thinking that Brett Anderson's comments about being "a bisexual who has never had a homosexual experience" pretty cringe-worthy.

At this point, La Roux isn't even transgressive or trail blazing or even interesting. It's just conservative, retrogressive crap.

I wasn't suggesting it was as innovative or ground-breaking as how Bowie was, but that it was similar in its effect on the target audience, albeit LaRoux is insignificant as a pop star even in today's terms, compared to how Bowie was in the '70s. I maintain that there are people out there of a certain age who will think it's exciting and thought-provoking.

loooool, from the moment I saw this thread was updated I just knew it was going to be Lex ranting about something she'd just said.

La Roux singer Elly Jackson has blasted Taylor Swift's music as "manufactured princess pop".
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Jackson added: "I do think people should stand up more against rubbish music and people should say, 'No, sorry this isn't that good'. It's not. Taylor Swift's music isn't good, it's manufactured princess pop, we've got enough of it, let's have something else."

shut the FUCK up, for real, elly jackson. you're a fucking pygmy next to someone of taylor's talent.

was in the pub with a friend of a friend who works as a celebrity hunter for the N0TW. He declared to me that he wants to become a serious music journalist and in the same breath spoke of how sorry of his disappointed that La Roux failed to win the Mercury. He then read aloud a supportive text he had sent her on the day. And her reply. :-|

so what was it then? if you don't say i'm just going to assume the worst. email if u want!

She has a better voice than Taylor but I don't really want to listen to either of them.

okay maybe not "better", but more open, less pressed

okay never mind, forget I said anything

I don't think I'd grasped exactly how irritating La Roux is musically before now.

I can't really imagine a worse voice.

Basically I was reacting to a massive amount of echo put on her voice in a remix; remove that and it's pretty obvious she has no idea what she's doing when she's trying to sing. Taylor, OTOH, has tinges of the Britney quack in her voice but by and large seems to be producing the sound she's going for.

Whatsit from La Roux sings like a Dalek.

I can't help but really love her songs. There's something "off" about each song - be it the pronounciation or the beats - but at the same time I quite like it. It's never instant love, I can't get it, nor do I really listen. All the song have something in common, I instantly recognize it. And in a funny way it's the fact that I just like it that is the common element. Whatever.

(I feel a bit silly posting here bcz I don't really care that much abt music but I enjoy La Roux; Lex I am happy to try and answer any "how could anyone like this" qtns you may have.)

As daughter of a famous celeb, how the fuck does 'er from La Roux NOT count as "manufactured princess pop"? With her levels of self awareness, I'm just surprised it wasn't a "Lily Allen only got to where she was because of a famous parent" exact quote.

I don't really care that much abt music but I enjoy La Roux

these two things may be connected!

seriously yeah, if anyone wants to tell me how they're ok with her horrible voice, her horrible tinny music, her horrible trite lyrics and her horrible ignorant opinions, feel free.

Elly's horrible, shrill Kelly Marie-esque voice was the first thing I objected to with La Roux but I realise now that the lazily-written hook-deprived songs are just as much of a problem.

la roux is a they? huh.

hahah Lex, for a moment I thought you were on about Neil Young when you said bad voice.

And not care about music and liking La Roux could be related, but I do care about music AND I like La Roux, so how does that work out? I find your whole hatred somewhat cute.

I do have to admit that I have a very fucked up attitude when it comes to pop cult: I actually follow up on famous people I actually abhore. I know more about Katie Price than, say, my next door neighbour. So I guess I have a high tolerance for *crap* or mediocre music (or any other pop cult product). La Roux hasn't really inspired me to analyze her music or be swayed by it, I just find it enjoyable.

my knowing more about katie price - who i NEVER actively try to follow - than my next door neighbour says more about neighbourly relations ~these days~ really. i know she's japanese (have taken post for her), works from home (always bump into each other at like 2pm), lives with her bf, that's it.

seriously yeah, if anyone wants to tell me how they're ok with her horrible voice, her horrible tinny music, her horrible trite lyrics and her horrible ignorant opinions, feel free.

The synthy bit and the chorus of bulletproof are great pop rushes! They are like Negotiate With Love only slightly less good. Also the video is great, with The Future, and primary colours. Also her hair is memorable which is good in a popstar - as someone not paying much attention I cannot remember what Lady Gaga or whoever look like, but La Roux is instantly recognisable.

Her voice is just kinda neutral? It is an autotuned whatever voice, like Kimberley GA or whoever. Are the lyrics really that trite? Again they just seem pleasantly okay!

The lyrics are like something Vince Clarke scribbled on the back of an envelope and then threw away in disgust back in 1982.

it's weird that you cite lady effing gaga and her innumerable attention-seeking outfits as something less visually memorable than la roux - not into gaga at all either (though christ, am nearing crumbling point on this one) but next to her, elly jackson is an indie boy in t-shirt and jeans.

"the future" = the 80s?

idk how to respond to an argument that her piercing, nails-on-blackboard shrill is "neutral" :/

i mean gaga wore a massive bow in her hair which was MADE OUT OF HER HAIR - one stupid quiff has nothing on that

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/08/05/previews/Lady%20GaGa-ADB-013713.jpg

this is one of the more conservative Lady Gaga pics on the internet

She has brown hair in that pic and looks like Chan Marshall! That is nothing like how she looks at other times! My most reliable visual signifier for Lady Gaga is "no trousers" but she does wear them sometimes; I'd be much less confident picking her out of an identity parade than La Roux who just always looks exactly the comforting same.

Is it just me or is La Roux the most boring music ever?

The shit voice doesn't help but by golly, is it fucking boring.

I apologise if this is too obvious and/or behind the curve, btw.

kbp have u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWmE6LwowsQ&feature=player_embedded