Offa that recent poll about 5-stars in Rolling Stone, I got to wondering—what are the most famous bits of music crit revisionism? E.g. Appetite For Destruction not reviewed, then made 5-star; Pixies' Doolittle getting 3.5, then 5 in hindsight.
Any other mags famous for this?
― THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Monday, 23 February 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
what the fuck is an Offa
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Monday, 23 February 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
off-a
― suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Monday, 23 February 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― gtfoer spurlock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 23 February 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
jimmy offa
― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 February 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah we buried im over ere
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Monday, 23 February 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Q, as opposed to their readers, have never been particularly fond of Travis. Most Travis albums have gotten rather mediocre grades there. However, in retrospect, "The Man Who" has been given a QQQQQ, as opposed to the QQ it was originally given back in early 1999.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
OH THE HUMANITY
― vaginary & western (jjjusten), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
OH THE Q-MANITY
― max, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
If you have been on any gamer forums, Geir's post is massively funny.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
rolling stone revisionism thread 2009
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i remember the source did a big ol' 'these albums deserves 5 mics but we were like, fuck tupac at the time' issue.
― bay bay (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
"These albums we now realise are actually as good as Lil Kim's 'The Naked Truth'"
― Britpoppage (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
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To prove the point, the Rolling Stone staff assembled a rundown of the 40 top reasons to be excited about music right now, starting with our cover stars, the Black Eyed Peas, a group that has perfected the art of global domination thanks to the brilliant maneuvering of philosophical leader Will.i.am. The producer/rapper/friend-of-Bono tells Chris Norris about his theory that music works in circles, not squares (the proof: the success of the 45; the failure of the 8-track), the moment he realized an electro album would be a blockbuster (see: The E.N.D.), and how it’s possible to make a whole song a chorus
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 April 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
The producer/rapper/friend-of-Bono tells Chris Norris about his theory that music works in circles,
He also stated that Bobby Brown was just amping like Michael.
― President Keyes, Friday, 23 April 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
XD
― hopster bunoff (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 April 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
the way that Fonzworth Bentley's just amping like Urkel
― hopster bunoff (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 April 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.startribune.com/blogs/91576834.html
Oy veh...U2 stadium tours
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 April 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
33. Because Sting’s Daughter Is About To Enter the Family Business.
...apparently not a joke.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
40 reasons to lose faith in new music... this list is fucking pathetic
― billstevejim, Friday, 23 April 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
It reads almost like a parody.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Russell Brand's Guide to Threesomes, Pissing Off Christians and Breaking Up Oasis
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 23 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
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can someone explain to me what joke i am making here
― yo gotti or notti (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Almost none of this list has anything to do with music itself, as opposed to "the music business" and advertising for shit they think people should be spending money on.. its not even like they're trying to hide it.
― billstevejim, Friday, 23 April 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I just read that in 1975 they voted "Hissing of Summer Lawns" as Worst Album of the Year. Amazing...
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 16 June 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
Didn't they also vote Pinkerton worst of the year for '96?
― Austin, Sunday, 16 June 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
Does this ever work in reverse? Like, will they ever renounce their five star review of that new John Fogerty circus of the stars record?
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, it was worst album title. They voted Metal Machine Music "worst album by a human being" that year.
They gave Hissing a mediocre review. Stephen Holden called it "a great collection of pop poems with a distracting soundtrack. Read it first. Then play it." He wrote that "The Jungle Line" was "gimmicky and enervated," so fuck him.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 16 June 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
Whoa, thanks Tarfumes--big oops there! Guess I shouldn't trust everything I read in Amazon customer reviews! In truth I can't imagine RS being able to wrap their minds around the "soundtrack"
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
I imagine they've rescinded the 1970 "Album of The Year": Parachute by The Pretty Things.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
I would hope so, considering it never happened:
In 1975, Rolling Stone critic Steve Turner even wrote that it had been "a Rolling Stone 'album of the year',"[3] though in fact Parachute did not place among the magazine's Albums of the Year for 1970[4] or 1971,[5] and indeed was not mentioned in Rolling Stone until Stephen Holden called it an "obscure underground classic" in his review of Freeway Madness.[6]
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
in some other thread we recently talked about how Parachute was actually Stereo Review's number one album of 1970, but Stephen Holden misremembered it as RS's.
― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
fact checkin escape goat
― mookieproof, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
in some other thread we recently talked about how Parachute was actually Stereo Review's number one album of 1970, but Stephen Holden misremembered it as RS's.― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:38 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:38 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Okay, and that mis-remembering has carried on into the AMG and the band's chapter in Urban Spacemen....
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 16 June 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
no one had the internet back then
― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
and also the band (or whoever did re-issues for them) seized upon that Holden quote and had it printed on a sticker on the album.
― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Rolling Stone's 500 Worst Reviews of All Time
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/schmidtt/rolling-stones-500-worst-reviews-of-all-time-work-in-progress/1/
This is in incredible work by the author, who quotes a (clearly wrongheaded) contemporary RS review and then proceeds to show how their critical thought evolved over time in the magazine and their guides. Highly entertaining and enlightening.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 14 September 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
Cheers, Gerald. Can't believe I'm actually engrossed in an RYM link.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 14 September 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
Lol:
Hack reviews: Chuck Eddy possibly belongs here as well, but some of his reviews are so bizarre and off-base that I'm tempted to put him in a fifth category all his own.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link
Burn this rymer down
― President Keyes, Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link
The link's been posted here before.
(3) Hack Reviews: Terrible albums, generally by established artists (and/or personal friends of Jann Wenner), that were reviewed favorably by RS. In many cases I honestly doubt that the critic genuinely holds the opinions articulated in these reviews. Anthony DeCurtis, David Fricke and Rob Sheffield are clearly the biggest and worst hacks. J.D. Considine really straddles both #2 and #3. Chuck Eddy possibly belongs here as well, but some of his reviews are so bizarre and off-base that I'm tempted to put him in a fifth category all his own.
I'm glad we have entrails and a Delphic oracle
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link
this whole thing is not good, and such big portions
― every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 September 2018 08:55 (five years ago) link