The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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9. "Just Like Heaven" – 3:30 16
1. "The Kiss" – 6:17 12
13. "Like Cockatoos" – 3:38 9
5. "Why Can't I Be You?" – 3:11 8
2. "Catch" – 2:42 5
6. "How Beautiful You Are" – 5:10 5
15. "The Perfect Girl" – 2:34 4
11. "Hot Hot Hot!!!" – 3:32 3
4. "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep" – 4:50 3
17. "Shiver and Shake" – 3:26 1
12. "One More Time" – 4:29 1
7. "The Snakepit" – 6:56 1
16. "A Thousand Hours" – 3:21 0
14. "Icing Sugar" – 3:48 0
10. "All I Want" – 5:18 0
8. "Hey You!" – 2:22 0
3. "Torture" – 4:13 0
18. "Fight" – 4:27 0


Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't think we have done this before, as i couldn't find it in search. since this double album has 18 songs on it, the results should be interesting.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

The 13 year-old me wants to vote Just Like Heaven of course, but there are so many choices!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Like Cockatoos, no hesitation

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

i got my grandmother to buy this record for me for christmas the year it came out

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Either "Walking On Sunshine" -- er, "Why Can't I Be You?" or "How Beautiful You Are."

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Like Cocatoos" is the most brroooodtacular and also the best.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

you are a smart smart lady

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

I got my parents to let me buy this album by telling them I heard a song from it at a church dance (which was true).

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the short story that "How Beautiful You Are" is based on (according to the liner notes)? I hope it is better than that song, which isn't a bad song, but I don't know that I'd want to read a story of it.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought it was a Baudelaire prose poem.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

The bass line is a corker, at any rate.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

even though it felt soft at the time
i always used to wake up sore

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

The only songs on here that aren't perfect are "Icing Sugar" and "A Thousand Hours".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am tempted to register many sockpuppets so I can vote for everything

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

probably 'just like heaven', though i also really like 'if only tonight we could sleep'

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

even so, the rest of the band was now laying down tracks at such a prolific rate that it quickly became obvious there was much more material than a single vinyl album could contain. "we never imagined we'd do a double album until we were about two thirds of the way through our time at Miraval," remembers Smith. "we had completed so many tracks, and were starting to have very animated discussions about which ones should be on the album. trying to squeeze stuff onto a single 45 minute record would have resulted in a release4e that was either too 'poppy or too 'atmospheric' - neither of which would have been quite right."

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

man i haven't listened to this in a long time, but it sure is good. "how beautiful you are" is the only song i ever cited in a philosophy exam essay, so i'm voting that.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 06:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"The Kiss" is their best opening track in a catalog full of killer opening tracks. Voting for it without hesitation.

ilxor, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 06:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Just Like Heaven; it's pop Cure at its absolute best. From the opening bassline I'm sold.

Josh L, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is maybe the only double album I own where I never skip a single song. One of my top 5 albums of all time, without a doubt. Voted for Like Cockatoos, but, really could vote for any of them.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

great poll and so far impossible to decide. Dan is crazy wrt "1000 Hours" and especially the fantastic "Icing Sugar"

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

The only one I skip is "Fight"

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

A Thousand Hours would've been my second choice

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm tempted to go with "The Kiss" or "Shiver and Shake", but the 16-year old in me won't allow me to vote for anything other than "Just Like Heaven".

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

"The Kiss" is their best opening track in a catalog full of killer opening tracks. Voting for it without hesitation.

This is almost exactly what I was thinking when I clicked open the thread.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

We should do a side 1/2/3/4 poll instead (even though it would be just as impossible)

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember when John bought this album and played it for me; the last time I had as strong an avaricious reaction to music was when my brother first played his Controversy album for me in 1981.

I don't know what my mom thought about my obsession with this album; I used to play "The Kiss" over and over and over, then I started playing side 3 over and over and over, then I started playing side 2 over and over and over, then finally I taped it and gave the original back to John so he wouldn't pummel it and just listened to it over and over and over and over again.

I have to vote "Like Cockatoos" on this, except for that my real vote is going to "The Snakepit", by which I mean I'm voting "Hot Hot Hot!!!" which of course is a smokescreen for my vote for "The Kiss" the translates to "How Beautiful You Are..." because how could I possibly not vote for "Just Like Heaven" and "Catch" is a must-have but "Torture" is so alluring and grimy and nothing is as visceral as "All I Want" and I can't live without "One More Time" and FOR FUCK'S SAKE THIS WHOLE ALBUM IS FANTASTIC, EVEN THE TWO SONGS I DON'T LIKE ALL THAT MUCH ARE INDISPENSIBLE

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

My first Cure album and the soundtrack of that summer. This record changed my life.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

I saw them on this tour, and the show we went to was broadcast on Radio 1. You could clearly hear my sister screaming "Robert!" between songs.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am tempted to register many sockpuppets so I can vote for everything

― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:09

haha ^^^ this

voted for 'like cockatoos' though.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have this album, need to give it a thorough audition. Now seems as good a time as any.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Voted for Hot Hot Hot (but it really *is* Just Like Heaven)

Joe, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

We should do a side 1/2/3/4 poll instead (even though it would be just as impossible)

OK, we can do a mock poll on this thread. Not sure if this will format properly:

A1 The Kiss 6:14
A2 Catch 2:44
A3 Torture 4:18
A4 If Only Tonight We Could Sleep 4:53

B1 Why Can't I Be You? 3:14
B2 How Beautiful You Are 5:14
B3 The Snakepit 6:59
B4 Hey You !!! 2:22

C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30
C2 All I Want 5:19
C3 Hot Hot Hot !!! 3:33
C4 One More Time 4:30
C5 Like Cockatoos 3:39

D1 Icing Sugar 3:49
D2 The Perfect Girl 2:34
D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23
D4 Shiver and Shake 3:28
D5 Fight 4:27

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

A The Kiss
B The Snakepit
C Just Like Heaven
D Shiver and Shake

Side B is the weakest, and the choice there was easy, but otherwise this is really tough!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

A If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
B How Beautiful You Are
C Like Cockatoos
D A Thousand Hours

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

:D @ this album so far, especially Torture into If Only Tonight, awesome stuff

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

The drumming on this album is brilliant. They never really recovered after Boris left.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, my copy doesn't have "Hey You!" on it :(

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

"You're just three sick holes that run like sores" is a lyric calculated to make one recoil. It stings.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

A If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
B The Snakepit
C Like Cockatoos
D Shiver and Shake

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

A If only tonight we could Sleep
B How Beautiful are you
C Just Like Heaven
D Shiver and Shake

Josh L, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

not ranking, but icing sugar is grebt.

remy bean, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

A The Kiss
B The Snakepit
C what the hell this is impossible
D Fight

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha, so you're a fan of the boiling, building agony-mounters! :D

(The Snakepit is awesome, but I'm not yet sure it's awesomer than, say, The Wailing Wall)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've reached The Perfect Girl and this is a super album.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

A1 The Kiss 6:14
B3 The Snakepit 6:59
C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30
D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

On side A, I vacillate between "The Kiss" and "Catch".
On side B, it's "How Beautiful You Are..." and "The Snakepit".
On side C, it is literally all of them. fucking hell
On side D, it's "The Perfect Girl", "Shiver and Shake" and "Fight".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Like Dan this was my Cure gateway, but I gotta admit that the protracted introductions bore me now (Christgau: "Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars"). I suppose I can defend them as proto-trance or something, but I won't bother, with the exception of "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep," whose Around the World in a Day version of Far Eastern music depends on samey samey samey.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought that orange extra lp was mostly live -- no?

bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:17 (two years ago) Permalink

Nope.

http://www.discogs.com/Cure-Kiss-Me-Kiss-Me-Kiss-Me/release/1738471

But all of that material was made available on the box set.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:54 (two years ago) Permalink

You're thinking of a VHS, not an LP.

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:54 (two years ago) Permalink

The Top has its critics, but this to me is The Cure's first ropey album - and even then it's only ropey because the nature of the double album has allowed the inclusion of a handful of less than great tracks. I'd put this down as my least favourite album of theirs that they put out in the '80s, actually, while still being above pretty much everything from Wild Mood Swings onwards.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 6 June 2015 13:04 (two years ago) Permalink

Maybe one of the tracks from the Orange LP is strong enough to make the cut, but these orphans are mostly half-baked or remixes that bring nothing new to the original tracks. So, i still contend that they did indeed empty the hamper.

I remember when this record came out that i was so poor that i had to choose between the double LP + Orange or the cassette -- i chose the cassette because i didn't have easy access to a turntable and just couldn't tolerate any delay in listening to it. The summer of '87 had this one on heavy rotation.

bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 7 June 2015 16:56 (two years ago) Permalink

does anyone else find this album uncharacteristically lazy on a lyrical level?

charlie h, Monday, 8 June 2015 03:32 (two years ago) Permalink

Compared to Wild Mood Swings or (as much as I enjoy it) Bloodflowers? No.

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 12:50 (two years ago) Permalink

he walked out of her house
And looked around
At all the gardens that looked
Back at her house
(Like all the faces
That quiz when you smile... )

And he was standing
At the corner
Where the road turned dark
A part of shiny wet
Like blood the rain fell
Black down on the street

And kissed his feet she fell
Her head an inch away from heaven
And her face pressed tight
And all around the night sang out
Like cockatoos

"There are a thousand things" he said
"I'll never say those things to you again"
And turning on his heel
He left a trace of bubbles
Bleeding in his stead

And in her head
A picture of a boy who left her
Lonely in the rain
(And all around the night sang out
Like cockatoos)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 June 2015 12:58 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

favorite section of this record rn is "like cockatoos" -> "icing sugar"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 7 August 2017 01:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

otm

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2017 01:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This is easily my least favourite album of theirs from their golden 1979-1992 period. There's highlights galore as is typically the case with prime-era Cure, but also a fair bit of filler - particularly on the back half of the album. This really didn't need to be a double album, tbh.

Would have voted for 'Just Like Heaven' as its one of their all-time best and the best song on the LP.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 7 August 2017 06:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There's no filler on this album imo - the only thing that comes close is Hey You, and that's still pretty wonderful.

nate woolls, Monday, 7 August 2017 07:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

half of side 4 is filler IMO ("Icing Sugar", "A Thousand Hours") but I think the rest of the album is essential (and I like "Icing Sugar" even though I think it's a wholly unnecessary song)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 15:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Speaking of Hey You, KM3 one of the rare albums featuring both real brass and conspicuously fake brass.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2017 15:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

...a hot August night provides the perfect opportunity to spin this masterpiece of potpourriness once again.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 7 August 2017 23:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I like the back half of this album a hell of a lot more than when I first heard it (which was about ?seventeen? years ago). 'Like Cockatoos' is obviously the winner on record two of the album, but I've always had a soft spot for 'One More Time' and 'A Thousand Hours.' Just really dreamy songs.

'Catch' has one of my all time favorite RS lyrics: "Sometimes we would spend the night, just rolling about on the floor. I remember, even though it felt soft at the time, I always used to wake up sore."

Also, two of their best b-sides ever came out of the sessions for this album, in 'To the Sky' and the godlike 'A Chain of Flowers.'

Good stuff.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Although, 'To the Sky' was not really a proper b-side, per se.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Turd; argue Kiss Me -vs- Invisible Touch. Be old; go ahead.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 09:10 (one week ago) Permalink

'Like Cockatoos', 'Shiver and Shake', 'One More Time', 'The Snakepit', 'A Thousand Hours', 'Icing Sugar', 'Hey You!' and 'Fight' are the tracks that I would willingly cut if I was trying to trim this down to a single LP.

It's most bizarre that Invisible Touch has been brought up here, though - the two albums have very little in common bar being released in the same decade.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 11:42 (one week ago) Permalink

"like cockatoos" is one of the best cure songs ever

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 11:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Totally. Otherwise I agree with Turrican's cuts.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Also keep "The Snakepit", "One More Time", and "Fight". I love "Shiver and Shake" but it's not essential.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:37 (one week ago) Permalink

you both are tripping re: "one more time" and "fight" but ok

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:44 (one week ago) Permalink

xp

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I kind of feel the same way about the end (4th side?) of Kiss Me as Xgau felt about Sandinista!. There's been so much range and so much awesome stuff, consider it a bunch of bonus tracks and b-sides to enjoy if you're inclined.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Hm, I guess I linked my Quietus piece from this year on another thread? Well, here it is for this one.

http://thequietus.com/articles/22262-the-cure-kiss-me-kiss-me-kiss-me-review-anniversary

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:52 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm less fond of sprawling Cure (I don't like Disintegration much either), so y'all are warned.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha, speaking of XGau, I always loved this review:

"Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me [Elektra, 1987]
Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars before Robert Smith starts to whine, wail, warble, work. Because Smith hasn't veered this far pop since he was a boy, most of the themes stick with you, and in a few cases--my pick is "Just Like Heaven," which gets off to a relatively quick start--his romantic vagaries have universal potential. But especially over a double album, the strategy gets pretty tedious unless Smith happens to be whining, wailing, warbling, or working to you. B"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:56 (one week ago) Permalink

I find this record way more interesting than Disintegration. It may be their last truly groundbreaking work.

yesca, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:20 (one week ago) Permalink

I view the record as being an inflated version of The Head on the Door, in the same way as I view Disintegration as being an inflated version of Faith.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:11 (one week ago) Permalink

If it's an inflated version of anything, I'd link it to The Top. The Head on the Door is, overall, a far poppier album.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:14 (one week ago) Permalink

yep

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:15 (one week ago) Permalink

The Head on the Door is definitely a poppier record overall, although many tracks from Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me could have fit snugly on it and vice versa.

I can see a link between the messy sprawl of Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me and The Top, but The Top has a distinct, slightly foggy feel to it that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me doesn't.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Eh, I don't know about that: The Kiss, Torture, If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, How Beautiful You Are..., The Snakepit, All I Want, Like Cockatoos, Icing Sugar, Shiver and Shake... all of them seem to fit pretty well into the vibe I get from The Top, and that's half the album.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Invisible Touch was brought up to once again showcase your ineptitude; well done.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Invisible Touch could have been a good name for a Cure song or album.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

The Top is murkier and in places more intense - it's easy to picture 'The Caterpillar' on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me but there's nothing as all-out as 'Give Me It' on there - 'Shiver and Shake' doesn't really come close for me. There's nothing as murky as 'Shake Dog Shake' or anything as despairing as 'The Top' ... the "downer" tracks on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me feel curiously false at times.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

bodacious ignoramus is 49 years old. Yeah... I know, right!?

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:48 (one week ago) Permalink

There isn't really anything as all out as "Give Me It" on any of The Cure's other albums so I don't really get that criticism. All of songs I listed have a similar disorienting murkiness to them that you can find in "Shake Dog Shake" and "Wailing Wall", with the most obvious ones being "The Kiss", "Like Cockatoos", and "The Snakepit".

It's not like the albums are exactly the same but you can't say that KMKMKM and THOTD are exactly the same, either; I think the similarities to The Top are stronger.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

"all i want" is such a good song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:53 (one week ago) Permalink

quite certain you have have accumulated earwax of the same vintage

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:56 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess another way of looking at it could be that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is the logical endpoint of the Cure sound that began on Japanese Whispers, like Pornography was the logical endpoint for the first era of The Cure.

Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Disintegration and Wish were all stadium size versions of stuff they'd done before.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:59 (one week ago) Permalink

the top def feels different bcuz rs made it on mushrooms and the other albums he did not make while on mushrooms

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:59 (one week ago) Permalink

There isn't really anything as all out as "Give Me It" on any of The Cure's other albums so I don't really get that criticism.

It's not a criticism of Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me at all, just part of an observation of the differences between the two records.

All of songs I listed have a similar disorienting murkiness to them that you can find in "Shake Dog Shake" and "Wailing Wall", with the most obvious ones being "The Kiss", "Like Cockatoos", and "The Snakepit".

Hmm, I disagree - quite a lot of the murky quality of The Top comes from how frazzled Robert Smith himself seems to be, the way the record was made and the relative lack of clarity in the overall production/mix... Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me feels more focused, more "together" and has more clarity in the production and Smith sounds like he's in a more healthier headspace, even on the downbeat tracks - the end result consequently feels a lot lighter to me.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:08 (one week ago) Permalink

"all i want" is such a good song

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, August 8, 2017 5:53 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I love that one - such a biting guitar sound.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Funnily enough, I once knew someone who actually said to me "all of The Cure's albums sound the same" ... had to laugh at that one.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:12 (one week ago) Permalink

The Top and Kiss Me have next to no sameness between them. I can't imagine anything from the Top being handled by Bob Clearmountain.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Bob Clearmountain wouldn't have touched later Cure material either

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:58 (one week ago) Permalink

He did a mix of 'How Beautiful You Are', which I'm not really keen on... and I respect Clearmountain's mixing skills and obvious talent a great deal.

The Top mixed by Bob Clearmountain would be interesting - it'd probably end up quite a different record, even with the same source material.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 19:22 (one week ago) Permalink

BC also did the mixdowns for all of the single edits from Kiss Me.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink


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