Taking Sides: Genesis 1970-1977 Vs. Genesis 1978-91

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Keeping their 1969 and 1997 incarnations out because both were in a lot of ways something else than what is usually known as Genesis, this poll separates the options by Steve Hackett's departure, which musically represented more of a change than Peter Gabriel's. This is basically symphonic Genesis Vs. AOR Genesis.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Genesis 1970-1977 21
Genesis 1978-1991 12


Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 February 2009 13:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

And you know what I pick :)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 February 2009 13:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Where's the "don't care" option?

Mark G, Friday, 13 February 2009 13:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

What's the word for a tiny version of a landslide?

Otto von Biz Markie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 February 2009 14:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

might give it a fighting chance if you lopped the second option off at '86. or even '83.

because... ugh.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 13 February 2009 15:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

1978-1983 would have gotten my vote. 1978-1986 I would have thought about.

All sensible humans willl agree that 1987-1991 is indefensible.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 13 February 2009 15:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does this 1983 cut-off include or exclude the dreaded Illegal Alien???

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 13 February 2009 16:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

suspect that "lol @ geir" votes will figure heavily in this poll, but would be interested in hearing people who actually want to argue in favor of latter Genesis & aren't just c/p'ing from American Psycho

me, I mean, I left prog the way some people leave the Church of Rome - sold all my Genesis and Yes and Gabriel records back the store and spent the money on Lou Reed & David Bowie instead - but still, pretentious Gabriel Genesis beats almost all of the Collins era except maybe the title track of Abacab, which is ace.

J0hn D., Friday, 13 February 2009 16:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was brought up hearing 'Three Sides Live' in the back of the family car, so I know that whole era heaps better than the Gabriel stuff. That whole build up at the start of 'Turn It On Again' is great, really! Well as good as Journey or Asia or whatever anyhow.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 13 February 2009 16:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Which version has less Tony Banks noodling?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 February 2009 16:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's a completely one-sided split and I don't really agree with Geir about Hackett leaving being the watershed. With the catalogue divvied up like this, it boils down to ...Then There Were Three, Duke and Abacab plus a few good bits off the next 2 versus nearly all of their best material. Now Duke is maybe a Top 3er for me, but beyond that...it's not even that post-Hackett is bad, and it's not particularly about Gabriel, but they were just a lot better and more interesting band for most of the 70s. (See Collins trying to play the old stuff with that tribute act and struggling to keep up with his old self.)

Otto von Biz Markie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 February 2009 16:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lots of people do prefer Hackett-less Collins-era Genesis obv and their reasons aren't that interesting (or v different from Patrick Bateman's for that matter). That incarnation had several decent well-crafted stadium pop hits. "Turn It On Again", "Invisible Touch", "Misunderstanding" -- these are all good pop songs. The Gabriel-led band's aesthetic is just far more interesting to me.

Sundar, Friday, 13 February 2009 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

John D. dude no love for Mike Rutherford eating his bass alive on "No Reply At All?"

Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 13 February 2009 17:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Paperlate is a good song too - I guess the dicking about brass on that prefigures a lot of Collins' solo stuff, but it's somehow way more palatable than Sussudio or whatever.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 13 February 2009 17:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

but would be interested in hearing people who actually want to argue in favor of latter Genesis & aren't just c/p'ing from American Psycho

i'll freely admit that my affinity for this era is grounded in nostalgia, but yeah, some awesome singles here: turn it on again, misunderstanding, abacab, no reply at all, that's all, follow you follow me, taking it all too hard, etc... hell, a couple off Invisible Touch

but i haven't committed to either option as of yet.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

You can't really fuck with the Turn It On Again comp released a few years ago. "Turn It On Again" in particular has a nice punk, forcebeat aggression, and I love lots of those post-1983 goopy marvels.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 February 2009 18:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

As noted I do honestly prefer the Duke/Abacab-era material to the earlier material. Paperlate, Turn it on Again, Misunderstanding, Abacab, No Reply at All, That's All, Home by the Sea are non-bad. I haven't listened to Invisible Touch since gah, since high school; MAYBE there's something salvageable on it. Parts of Domino and the instrumental had some rawk in them, as I recall.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

I unreservedly and unabashedly love Invisible Touch.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

john d i hope that as a prog protestant you didn't miss out on the man who sold the world, a great prog rock album and one of bowie's best

kamerad, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's a completely one-sided split and I don't really agree with Geir about Hackett leaving being the watershed.

Not neccessarily that much quality wise (I agree that "And Then There Were Three" and "Duke" are great pop albums, while I am not so keen on "Abacab"), but more in terms of changing their style considerably. When Hackett was still in the band, Genesis were still a band that liked to do musically complex 8-10 minute suites with lots of chord changes and key changes, although maybe not so many metric changes as in the Gabriel era. However, from "And Then There Were Three", they were more of a three minute pop singles band who liked to throw in the occasionaly 7-8 minute number as album tracks because they thought they would please old fans that way. I kind of like their 80s output too - even "Invisible Touch". Even "We Can't Dance" has a couple good pop songs on it in the case of "No Son Of Mine" and "Jesus He Knows Me", which may almost make me forgive them for recording the title track and "Hold On My Heart" - both of which were horrible.

But still, the prog era had so much more sophistication, so much more complex stuff, so much more interesting to investigate and hear again and agan, so there is no competition, really.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Definitely the latter for me. I like about eight of those hit singles. They lasted too long but don't we all.

Mark, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

john d i hope that as a prog protestant you didn't miss out on the man who sold the world, a great prog rock album and one of bowie's best

Bowie did not count as prog at all to me & my goodbye-to-prog buddies, when I stopped listening to genesis and yes and gabriel and all that stuff I went over to Lou Reed, David Bowie & Iggy Pop all day

then Iron Maiden came along and fucked my shit up proper, the end

J0hn D., Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"The Man Who Sold The World" was about as prog as just about any pop album was in 1970-71, I guess. I mean, even stuff like Paul McCartney's "Uncle Albert" and "Back Seat Of My Car" was kinda proggy too.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can listen to "Keep It Dark" over and over and over again.

Dennis Croissanwich (Mexican Sleeping Pill), Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

We are ignoring 'Calling All Stations', right?

Bored of Canada (S-), Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Um, of course. I should read gooder.

Bored of Canada (S-), Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 20 February 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I love the *Three Sides Live* version of "Abacab" to an almost embarrassing degree. I wish the solos went on for twice as long.

Mark, Saturday, 6 June 2009 03:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

I guess I never noticed this poll before, so I didn't vote, but I'm so damn happy with the results. ILM *high five*

Crispy Ambulance Douchebag (Bimble), Saturday, 6 June 2009 07:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also agree with J0hn D. that the title track of Abacab was pretty cool. Don't remember it all that well, now, though. I certainly can't claim to have heard their whole career, and I believe Phil Collins can only be hated by about 90% but I do know for certain that there is a year somewhere in the 80's that if I have to hear them, I'm going to drive a nail into my finger to turn that shit off.

Crispy Ambulance Douchebag (Bimble), Saturday, 6 June 2009 07:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also I recently heard Nursery Cryme for the first time thanks to Noodle Vague, thanking U. I thought it was fantastic and I couldn't believe there were synthesizers on it. I try not to worship Peter Gabriel the way I worship Kate Bush - it's only an illusion.

Crispy Ambulance Douchebag (Bimble), Saturday, 6 June 2009 07:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

There were no synthesizers on "Nursery Cryme", but maybe that is what you were trying to write?

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 7 June 2009 12:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but there's some kind of electronic piano, isn't there? What is that noise on the first track? Surely that's not a guitar, but I could be naive.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 16:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

organ, mellotron, piano, electric piano

Westwood Ho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 June 2009 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Right! that's what I meant to say was electric piano, not "electronic". Thanks.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

's cool. The mellotron is a kind of proto-synth anyway.

Westwood Ho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 June 2009 16:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did anyone here see them live when Gabriel was singer? Tell about it.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looking at some of the song titles mentioned on this thread, though, has convinced me I need to dig up some early 80's Genesis pronto. Might even be post-punk enough for me to really enjoy.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 17:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Turn It On Again" actually reminds me of the Who (with Daltrey singing of course). This is a nice trip down memory lane. Thanking ILXors. "Abacab" is making me hella happy right now too.

God, where would I be without ILM? Where?

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Misunderstanding"! Wow! I forgot all about these songs. Jesus christ.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

misunderstanding is terrible. about half of duke is pretty good. abacab is a great album, s/t is a really watered down verson of same, invisible touch an even more watered down version of s/t. but I think abacab was really pretty progressive of them, more so than duke and certainly more interesting than the awful 'and then there were three'.

akm, Sunday, 7 June 2009 17:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've heard about half of the Abacab album now and I must say I'm mighty impressed. Not just with the songs, but the production absolutely knocks me out. I would like there to be more records in the world that SOUND like that, please. I'm becoming a lot more intrigued with this part of their history. Haven't really started digging in to Duke or And Then There Were Three, yet, but I will. Also gonna give the self-titled one a try. I can't really deal with "That's All" anymore, but I'd like to hear the rest of it, especially "Taking It All Too Hard" which I think I bought the single of but can't remember much about.

Imagine being an elevator (Bimble), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 20:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

pretentious Gabriel Genesis beats almost all of the Collins era except maybe the title track of Abacab, which is ace.

<3 u for this J0hn

freeway onramps for arms, and a heart as black as coal (Trayce), Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Never see how that track is so particularly great either. The fact that the same beat goes on all the time kind of damanges what might otherwise have been some nice mood changes.

Plus the bass theme is ripping off Sparks' "Beat The Clock" - the intros are almost identical!

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

you don't do drugs ever, do you

kamerad, Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

80s Genesis is the bomb, it hasn't aged!

like, COMPUTERS (u s steel), Friday, 12 June 2009 14:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

some awesome singles here: turn it on again, misunderstanding, abacab, no reply at all, that's all, follow you follow me, taking it all too hard, etc... hell, a couple off Invisible Touch

^^i was otm up in here

^defense is impregnable (will), Friday, 12 June 2009 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Just the fact that there were singles means it is obviously inferior to the 70s stuff.
Prog bands, shouldn't make singles, they should make complex 20 minute suites!

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 June 2009 22:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

"the fact that they were singles"

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2009 22:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't mind Duke but it very much pointed the way towards the later stuff in a way that ATTWT didn't. The split-up epic is great (although it would have been even better as a single piece), but Turn It On Again and Misunderstanding are just dross. On ATTWT (Follow You Follow Me excepted) they still sound like prime-era Genesis only with shorter songs.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Friday, 30 January 2015 14:45 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I wish they hadn't copped out and stuck to the original idea of keeping the long epic on Duke. I like 'Turn It On Again', fwiw.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 30 January 2015 14:50 (two years ago) Permalink

I like Turn It On, also. One of the weirdest pop songs they've done. In 13/8, iirc! Phil is right that it's his drums that make it sound simpler than it is.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2015 14:53 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a great song - "Misunderstanding" I'm not so keen on but "Turn it on Again" was, IMO, everything a radio hit from a prog band should be

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 30 January 2015 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I wish there was a better recording of the 1982 reunion concert. They sound good. Peter straight-up tells the audience that the purpose of the show is to get cash to cover the losses from WOMAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPdEPC2AsB8

jmm, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 22:54 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Man, self-titled. It's like their "Out of Time" - some of their best stuff ("Mama," "Home by the Sea," "Taking It All Too Hard"*), some of their absolute worst ("Illegal Alien," "That's All"), and some nice deep cuts ("Just a Job to Do," "Silver Rainbow").

*I can see how Genesis/Phil ballads might be controversial, but this is a lovely song, imo, that bridges '70s Genesis and '80s Genesis really well.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 February 2017 15:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

I love That's All. in fact the only song on that album that I don't like is Illegal Alien, and it's the worst song Genesis ever did in any formation (even worse than stuff on Calling All Stations). Remove it and that is a superb proggy pop album. I don't like it more than Abacab but I like it more than anything they did after.

akm, Sunday, 19 February 2017 16:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'm with akm. I'd argue that the s/t is their best album of the '80s. Abacab and Duke have a couple of great songs and a bunch I can't make it to the end of, but the s/t strikes a perfect balance of prog/AOR/pop. Except for "Illegal Alien," which is a musical war crime.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 19 February 2017 17:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

ABACAB is my favorite of their pop albums. But I think self-titled to me feels like a stab at what they did much better with invisible touch.

I think That's All is dumb, but anything is good compared to illegal alien.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 February 2017 17:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol I like "Illegal Alien"

the lyrics are dumb but it's a fun tune

frogbs, Sunday, 19 February 2017 19:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

It's no Buy Me a Condo.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 February 2017 21:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

*I can see how Genesis/Phil ballads might be controversial, but this is a lovely song, imo, that bridges '70s Genesis and '80s Genesis really well.

Invisible Touch played a strong ballads game too imo

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Monday, 20 February 2017 10:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

Funny that even at their prog height, Phil's singing about some bird that broke his heart ("More Fool Me").

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

Abacab is my favorite genesis but i definitely have a lot of time for the s/t. I thought everyone loved "That's All"??? A superb beatles homunculus with a nifty guitar solo I can sing from memory. I'm gonna play this album next!

In general, first wave prog bands going noo wave was a great thing IMO.

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

I never thought of it as Beatles-y, I always heard That's All as corny faux honky tonk. I like Phil's drumming on it a lot, though, and I like the ... bridge?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

IDK it has always had a weird kind of abbey road vibe for me?

Another nice tidbit on that track -- the sort of attackless liquid guitar arpeggios that fade in and out under some iterations of the chorus

Fucking garbage piano sound though, I feel like prince had an unsupportable fondness for this same sound

also something has happened and i seem to be able to tolerate illegal alien now? WTF. It has such a good leslie lead hook!

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

re my second sentence, it sounds like he is fingerpicking on an actually pretty dissonant chord but it's just so compressed and liquified it doesn't call any attn to itself

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 18:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Heathaze" from Duke gives me some feels.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

I love "Afterglow" from "Wind & Wuthering," where it just keeps washing into new waves of lovely. Superb use of a fade-out, too. That album has "Your Own Special Way" on it, too. "Trick of the Tail" has "Ripples." Ballads might just be this band's forte. Of course they rocked, too, but in a really particular way.

Speaking of Mike Rutherford, he not only stuck out in Genesis as the only non-virtuoso member, but in the world of prog at large it's pretty unusual to have such a relatively modest lead guitarist. He's a neat bassist, though. His playing on "No Reply at All" is cool.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

A Trick of the Tail may be my favorite Genesis record of all.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 04:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

Squonk!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 04:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah ToTT and W&W are the two best Genesis albums for me. Banks was in his prime as a songwriter and Collins' vocals are just perfect.

heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 09:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Heathaze" from Duke gives me some feels.

Yes! Duke might be my favourite Phil-era studio album.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 10:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

+1 for Squonk!

The Invisible Touch tour was actually my first concert, and digging backwards through the Genesis catalog was my first music-geek moment (they lost me when I got to about Nursery Cryme).

So with that disclosure in mind, I think the pre-1978 stuff was objectively better, but it was also pretty much for dudes only. I once read an interview with some musician (can't remember who) who said something along the lines of "all music has some sex in it. if you don't, you just end up like Genesis". And I think this quote was referencing the side-long prog suites, not the AOR pop moments. I still have a soft spot for a lot of the later era stuff (Behind the Lines, Follow You Follow Me, Misunderstanding), but the stuff I'm more likely to revisit now is the older stuff.

enochroot, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 13:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

"they lost me when I got to about Nursery Cryme"

you only have to go back one album after that! two I guess if you really want to

akm, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 13:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

Re: Mike Rutherford basslines, I've learned to love his mod noodling on the Fountain of Salmacis.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 16:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

FWIW, as far as prog goes Genesis I think is among the most ... sensitive? That is, as dude-y as prog is, imo it's a far cry from more macho stuff like King Crimson or Van Der Graaf Generator or even fussy stuff like Yes, let alone the cock-prog of ELP. Genesis has all that folk/pastoral stuff, and of course, again, actual ballads. At least pre-1980 Genesis. After that, yeah, even the ballads are sort of neutered AOR generic, as much as I love them.

"Paperlate" is such an overlooked/forgotten gem. Until last week I thought that "Inside Out" was another forgotten Genesis-with-horns gem, but then I remembered it was on "No Jacket Required."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 16:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

Sure you're not thinking of "Inside and Out"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyeUizLp1rk

doug watson, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah ToTT and W&W are the two best Genesis albums for me. Banks was in his prime as a songwriter and Collins' vocals are just perfect.

yes these two are fantastic. a recent relisten through the whole Genesis catalogue really boosted those two in my mind while revealing some of the early stuff I had previously liked as being a bit spottier than I remembered. the supposed double that W&W could've been which included some of Hackett's material and the tracks from Spot the Pigeon (how did those get cut??) would've been incredible.

IMO the later stuff goes Abacab > Genesis > Invisible Touch, even though Abacab really does go to shit on the last couple tracks. "Dodo/Lurker" is exactly what New Wave prog was meant to sound like.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:30 (eight months ago) Permalink

otm

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

i find w& w so dreary, though i love the instrumentals. but blood on the rooftops is too too bleak - maybe being english i'm too close to it - and all in a mouse's night is just twee rubbish.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

selling england by the £ still their most solid one for me.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

xpost No, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-IpCQp5Wdw

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

This is the only Hackett (Rutherford co-write) solo track that came really close to getting on a Genesis album, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SEgJtq2JjU

Though obviously Phil and Mike are on the album.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

yeah, as far as I know that was written for foxtrot or something and didn't make it.

akm, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's interesting how closely PC/PG/Genesis careers evolved in tandem, as though they were permanently yoked to each other. PC/PG's 1980-81 gated-drum breakthroughs (with matching stark album covers), their 1986 commercial peak, the early '90s New Jerseys (Can't Dance/Us) that were moderate hits but signalled career declines.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

Not to mention that their voices could sound a lot more dissimilar.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

Collins on the Melt album definitely helped that along

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

Though Gabriel had a decent simulacrum in Jerry Marotta.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm as guilty of missing this as anyone, but Collins only plays drums on 2 tracks on Peter Gabriel III.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh really - I actually thought it was all drum machines, under Phil's direction

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

Huh? Nope. Mostly Marotta. I think only Games Without Frontiers has drum machine? The crazy end of that, supposedly, is the sound of Marotta throwing his drums around the studio, which Lillywhite then sped up.

BTW, that's Jerry Marotta, second from left!
http://expose.org/assets/img/features/783/orleans-waking-and-dreaming-1976.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

Foxtrot and A Trick of the Tail are the only LP's I can really listen to in full these days. I like at least one track from each of their LP's, though.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

right on. been a long time since I pulled out PG3 - will have to rectify

frogbs, Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Dance on a Volcano" is the shit

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 February 2017 02:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Get this stat: every Genesis album through We Can’t Dance outsold its predecessor in England, an unsurpassed record.

whoa, I didn't know that. that's what, 14 straight albums?

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

I thought I was getting bored of this band earlier this year, but Duke and particularly Invisible Touch sounded phenomenal last time I heard 'em.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Even parts of And Then There Were Three. "Many Too Many" has the misty fall atmosphere of Wind & Wuthering.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:46 (one week ago) Permalink

still my fave genesis song. from my fave genesis album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJkOMYzVFE&list=RDTzL-up4ZKgI&index=2

scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:29 (one week ago) Permalink


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