[P4K Reviews] The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

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I was interested to see this one, as sort of a barometer of the site's boundaries these days. The closing sentiment is unbelievable:

"The Pains of Being Pure at Heart simply made a slyly confident debut that mixes sparkling melodies with an undercurrent of sad bastard mopery, and you're just being a dick if you think the past has some kind of patent on that."

Scott, so, Pitchfork is in the business of bullying people into liking bands? "You're a dick if you discount this"? Fierce theory.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

name sounds like they're a regular emo band. but a friend told me they're sort of shoegaze.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 6 February 2009 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Quite literally unbelievable! Holy fuck! Certainly worth a thread of it's own and an official statement from some guy from Pitchfork.

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe you think this is a matter for sarcasm, but my livelihood somehow revolves around the idea of the past having some kind of patent on slyly confident debuts that mix sparkling melodies with an undercurrent of sad bastard mopery so maybe, 'Ozman', you should try looking further than your own front door

Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

I like this record, especially "This Love is Fucking Right" – reminds me of Ride.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

i dont understand this thread

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

can someone explain it to me?

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

this bands soudns like endless bands before (and probably after) it.
gimmme something new for a change!

Zeno, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

xpost But then we'd have to kill you with our big fat dick

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

I don't get the thread either, but anyone who writes in a review 'you're just being a dick' should be banned from ever publishing anything anywhere ever.

The band is OK, easily one of the catchier current indiepop acts (bizarrely I have seen them live twice), though they're thus somewhat overrated on the scene, and their material is quite samey; if you like that thing they do then maybe you want to hear it over and over.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

I have no issue with the band profiteering off anorak/C86 iconography, but Pitchfork seems to be getting a little too close to participating in bands' marketing campaigns at this point. Started with A Place to Bury Strangers.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

The band don't sound anything like actual C86, 1980s indie or whatever, though yes they are revered on a scene that is very in thrall to an idea of that.

Like I said, the review you quoted is disgusting.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

lolol @ 'profiteering'

imstankyrich.jpg

Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

You can profit in ways other than "obtaining money", Peter - reputation, fame - though the endgame would be to make some, which is, as you suggest, a comical notion today.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Ott puppet?

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

chris ott and the pinefox, taking on pitchfork one innocuous hyperbolic phrase at a time

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing simulates a student club night circa 1985 quite like ILM.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

cant believe were even having this discussion given the michael phelps tragedy

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

this band are boring and so is this thread

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

to be non trolly for a moment, "and you're just being a dick if you think the past has some kind of patent on that." is kind of fair enough a sentiment, were it to be worded in a considerably less douchey way

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

jim u shd lock the thread

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

Does anyone go to pitchfork looking for music reviews? No. People go there to find out what music is "in," and by that measure this review is very informative.

But, to be fair to pitchfork, aren't they being sarcastic with that last line? That's how i would have interpreted it. They're music critics. If anyone thinks past music is relevant to current music, it's them.

Disease_Blossom, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

having said that, the attention bands like this (and vivian girls, and cause comotion) get over the vastly superior bands they mimic is kinda ridiculous. for what seems like the fifteenth time, anyone who digs the vivian girls and have not heard black tambourine is either seriously cheating themselves out of something great or is some sort of sexual predator. in the case of TPOBPAH read any number of 90s shoegaze in place of b.t.

haha xxpost

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

anyone who digs the vivian girls and have not heard black tambourine is either seriously cheating themselves out of something great or is some sort of sexual predator.

Speaking of douchey statements...

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

well okay i'm not going to say that wasn't a little excessively stated but still

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

i have no problem with these bands existing and in all fairness they have appealing qualities but one would be led to believe that music like this is truly new and exciting and let's be frank, in this genre that is pretty difficult and none of these bands come close

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

anyway i forget what my point is but there is lots of good noisy indiepop out there and much as i love slumberland records they seem to have taken on the mantle of a hip label and while it's great to see a payoff for their years of underappreciated hard work bands like crystal stilts and pains of being pure at heart are lame as hell next to the swirlies and lilys 45s they put out and just because these bands are among the few keepers of the flame these days doesn't justify this level of hype

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

On the tired "it's a rehash, BURN!" argument I would say Pitchfork has been fair in both responding to and promoting this stuff as tributary, and submitting to the fact that...that's sort of where we're at right now. "Originality" is becoming such an academic exercise, more a fool's game than METAL/NOT METAL ever was.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol threads like this make me sympathize w/jho's position on ILM.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

i'm listening to this record for the first time now. first track sounds all too obviously like 'just like honey'. i'm hoping for more variety of mood as the record plays out

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

i'm probably just ranting after seeing amazing records from last year ignored like amazing records from every other year and very much not amazing stuff is always getting attention and god knows why i even care

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

four tracks in and it's samey as fuck, and really bright sounding.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Looks like the real thing/feels like the first time!

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

'stay alive' is easily the nicest sounding track so far. this one will be worth playing a few times.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

Vivian Girls don't sound much like Black Tambourine

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

it's OK to listen to different bands who sound similar; you don't have to restrict yourself to one

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

it's OK to listen to earlier, influential bands, or later, influenced bands, or both, or neither, whatever

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

im OK, you're OK

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

it's OK to not listen to bands

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

No, it's totally inappropriate.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

At risk of turning this thread into this thread, any other indiepop recommendations 2009? The Besties? Sexy Kids? Swedish stuff?

the who cares (okamax), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

electricsound, I'm just curious what some of the records you liked from last year got totally ignored? I'm not trolling, I promise! I don't post that much, but from what I read we have kind of similar tastes in terms of indie pop.

jonathan - stl, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't make it more than a few sentences into the Pfork review, just clicked over to Myspace and the songs are fun, a bit catchy, a bit noisy, very reminiscent of pre-Isn't Anything MBV, Pale Saints, Ride, a bit of Mary Chain and all their collective influences as well. Not original, not bad either!

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing wrong with this band, at all. But from one perspective, they are the infamous She Wants Revenge with a different record collection.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Also, read the Psychic Ills album review. Not that that album is great or anything, but the review is basically "WTF YOU MEAN THERE ISN'T A MELODY?!" over and over again.

jonathan - stl, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

in before lock

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

whocares: Je Suis Animal !

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

The Tartans seem OK

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

the non-remix version of the new single, as nice as it sounds, seems a little too cynically 'knowing' about its field mice-meets-'just like heaven' vibe for me to love it

dig the other tracks though

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:34 (ten years ago) link

Champagne!

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:35 (ten years ago) link

We have achieved concensus.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:36 (ten years ago) link

however i hope they get over this 'use the same cover art but with a different single colour' thing very soon

seems lazy and it's not like it's a good design anyway

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:16 (ten years ago) link

^referring to the album and its respective singles, not the new EP btw

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:17 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Are the remixes on the new EP worth it? I'm being stingy with my emusic credits.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:49 (ten years ago) link

the only one of the three i didn't dig all that much was the DJ downfall. the St.E one is pretty essential

any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:51 (ten years ago) link

I can't imagine life now without it.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:52 (ten years ago) link

The new songs on the EP are really good too.

the supposedly self-aware acoustic stylings of Joe Latte (kshighway1), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:53 (ten years ago) link

I prefer the EP to the album: it's shorter, of course, and gives me no time to note their weaknesses.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:56 (ten years ago) link

decide for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemWi8T-ejI

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:57 (ten years ago) link

im not a big fan of the st. etienne version tbh, too slow and not digging all the open space

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:58 (ten years ago) link

iirc

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:58 (ten years ago) link

Just dropping in to say that "Gentle Sons" is, by far, one of my favorite songs of the year.

"Monday morning comes too fast / you stumble down the diamond path / and every step will be your last," the roar of the feedback-soaked guitars, and the solo—without a single note wasted—right in the middle. The sequencing on the record, with this closing, is perfect.

And I have to disagree with Alfred; I think the album's better than the EP, but then again I would, because I prefer albums, and I see the songs on Higher Than the Stars EP as slight variations on the songs that are on the self-titled record. Plus, in addition to "Gentle Sons," we have "Stay Alive," which is their second best song.

kshighway1, Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:09 (ten years ago) link

Is "Gentle Sons" the album closer? Seem to remember it cherry-picking the JAMC "Just Like Honey" drum intro... not that they're the first to do so, but it's very noticeable.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Hal Blaine was ripping off that intro twenty years before JAMC even formed!

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:54 (ten years ago) link

This goes all the way back to the first post, but someone once quoted me a Dillinger Four review that may not actually exist in which the reviewer who may not actually exist said, "If you don't like this record (Midwestern Songs of the Americas), then you are an asshole." That is the only record in the world where I could somewhat get behind that sentiment.

Oh, the Pains of Being Pure at Heart are pleasant when they are fuzzy.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Is "Gentle Sons" the album closer? Seem to remember it cherry-picking the JAMC "Just Like Honey" drum intro... not that they're the first to do so, but it's very noticeable.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, November 1, 2009 1:13 PM (2 hours ago)

Yup, that's the song!

kshighway1, Sunday, 1 November 2009 21:11 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

missing u ott

anyway, i really like the new single

http://pitchfork.com/news/38714-hear-the-new-pains-of-being-pure-at-heart-single-say-no-to-love/

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:16 (nine years ago) link

They're playing here in six weeks. Can't wait!

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:19 (nine years ago) link

still love the "[P4K Reviews]" in the title, dude went out of his way to save future ilx taxonomers some trouble

sveltko (k3vin k.), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:20 (nine years ago) link

digging the hazy harmonies behind those guitars in the chorus.

i like how this band churns out stand-alone singles that are strong enough to be A-material on an album. bands did this type of thing in the 80s, i think.

alfred, they're playing in south florida? where?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:20 (nine years ago) link

xpost

Fierce theory.

http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (nine years ago) link

good to see they've moved to a new artwork paradigm

hell and the handbaskets (electricsound), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (nine years ago) link

They're playing here in six weeks. Can't wait!

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i might be home alfred, if so i'll see you at the show

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (nine years ago) link

Awesome! A long-deferred pleasure.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:22 (nine years ago) link

Daniel, they're playing at Grand Central, where PopLife is currently.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:23 (nine years ago) link

spotted it; thanks.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:25 (nine years ago) link

good to see they've moved to a new artwork paradigm

― hell and the handbaskets (electricsound), Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:21 PM

yeah. i really like that cover! it's better than either of last year's releases'

http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:26 (nine years ago) link

the show i saw was kind of boring, unfortunately

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:25 (nine years ago) link

wow, this new song sounds a lot like the field mice

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:26 (nine years ago) link

doesn't the riff also sound a lot like "12:51" by the strokes?

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:33 (nine years ago) link

Love it!

When I saw them live they sounded eerily (and kind of disappointingly) like the album. It's good to know they're not just studio rats but at least throw in an extra guitar solo measure or two.

skip, Friday, 7 May 2010 04:54 (nine years ago) link

i finally listened to this, it was okay, even though it sounded like everything from the early 90's. and there was one song that sounded just like something off the last yo la tengo record. but you know whatever.

akm, Friday, 7 May 2010 05:10 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

The drummer is so cute in this video. The cross-legged conducting of 1000 drummers, etc. I love this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWHYwzSdfWE

youn, Saturday, 3 July 2010 02:41 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Is anyone going to the show on Thu?

youn, Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:47 (nine years ago) link

I would expect nothing less from Ian 'Throb' Cohen.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, February 6, 2009 12:20 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this guy

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:51 (nine years ago) link

doesn't the riff also sound a lot like "12:51" by the strokes?

u_u

ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:00 (nine years ago) link

I haven't listened to this record in a while, but it was definitely one of my favorites from last year

markers, Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:04 (nine years ago) link

i pretty much prefer everything they've done that wasn't on the album to anything on the album

mayor failure (electricsound), Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:16 (nine years ago) link

i wonder if they will show any development on future releases, they do tend to write the same song over and over. it's a catchy song mind.

keythhtyek, Monday, 18 October 2010 03:04 (nine years ago) link

I'd take an album and a couple more EPs of that same song over and over.

skip, Monday, 18 October 2010 03:59 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thoughts?

, Friday, 16 May 2014 21:07 (five years ago) link

new album is just kinda whatever but man the first one is totally a classic

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Sunday, 18 May 2014 02:35 (five years ago) link

I think my favorite is the stuff from the interim between the 1st and 2nd albums. This one's okay, though I believe everyone in the band except the singer is a new hire.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 May 2014 03:14 (five years ago) link

New one is rather good, much better than the last. Probably relative to how much like the field mice they sound, closer to wratten the better.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 18 May 2014 04:20 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Been surprised at how well the new record's stood up. I've listened to it a number of times and think it's probably as good as the s/t; but any band that's made the same album 3 times is going to fly under the radar. Love "Simple to Sure" > "Kelly" and "Eurydice" > "Masokissed".

I guess if you're going to ape your entire sound, do it as well as these guys do (see also: Yuck's debut).

Indexed, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:29 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Probably reductionist to post this in here, but Peggy Wang from TPOBPAH has a new band called Store Front. They put out their debut EP today and frontwoman Amy Rose Spiegel has a nice voice. Will appeal to fans of Pains and shimmery indie rock songs between 2:30 - 3:00.

https://storefrontnyc.bandcamp.com/

Task EP: https://open.spotify.com/album/5rcF3nAW28mDCcSJGBaOfX

Press: https://www.stereogum.com/2072593/store-front-rip-the-price-off/music/

Indexed, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:19 (three days ago) link

repost it over here so we can build up some indie pop discussion momentum:

Not Pop Not Indie Shambhala 2020 Thread

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:44 (three days ago) link

wait wrong thread, here:

Rolling Indiepop/Twee/Jangle 2020

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:46 (three days ago) link


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