Soda Stereo & Gustavo Cerati

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It is indeed amazing. Sorry you haven't had much company on this thread, but I'll chime in with my album ranking, best to worst:

Dynamo
Canción Animal
Signos
Nada Personal
Sueño Stereo (feel like I should give this one more listens)
s/t
Doble Vida ("En la ciudad de la furia" is great though)

Vinnie, Friday, 17 March 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

Thanks. That's a pretty good ranking. I still don't know the albums that well but starting to go through them. My favorite is still Sueñno Stereo which is the first one I had and listened to the most. I had some kind of beef with Dynamo, which was the other one I got at the time (don't even think the others were easy for me to get in the US) because my friend from Argentina was on the outs with them at the time and said something about them jumping on the bandwagon of "second-tier shoegaze bands." Another friend from Bueños Aires says Doble Vida is his favorite but I couldn't get it into that much except for the hit that you mention, too quirky or herky-jerky or something, like those early Go-Between records with a couple of great tunes along with lots of angular skronk or what-have-you.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

I bought Sueño Stereo and Dynamo at Record Mart, the legendary record store in the Times Square subway station, which closed for about a decade during subway renovations, reopened and then finally closed for good due to the pandemic :(
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/record-mart-the-record-store-inside-times-sq-subway-station-has-closed/

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

I never made it up to Casa Latina which apparently seems to have closed recently :(

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

Just took a break from listening to some of Gustavo's solo stuff and put on Dynamo. The psychedelic tablas on "Sweet Sahumerio" are reminding of that one song on Head.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

Found this TV show made a few months after he died, which seems to have a long interview with his mother. Feel like it might be painful to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTDjbGTw8iE

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

A ton of stuff on their YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/@SodaStereoVEVO

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

The psychedelic tablas on "Sweet Sahumerio" are reminding of that one song on _Head_.

Can you dig it?

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

Another friend from Bueños Aires says Doble Vida is his favorite but I couldn't get it into that much except for the hit that you mention, too quirky or herky-jerky or something

Yeah hard to put my finger on it. Mostly I think the songs just aren't that strong, but it does feel on that album that they also weren't sure about the style, it's a less unified sound than any of their other albums. On the other hand, their first album is sure of its style, reminds me a bit of early XTC (who I adore), but the songs just aren't that great compared to other albums

Vinnie, Saturday, 18 March 2023 00:31 (one year ago) link

Oh and I bring up XTC to make the point that herky-jerky in itself is my thing, if done well

Vinnie, Saturday, 18 March 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

Sure. XTC are the gold standard for that sort of thing. Among their many merits is that they don’t seem to rush the tempos and that even at their herkiest and jerkiest, their rhythms cycle around like some kind of internal machine, some kind of Buster Keaton train wheel or at least handcar.

It took me a while to like “Persiana Americana,” to take one example, because it goes by a little too fast. Listing to the symphonic version help me gain a deeper appreciation for it. I see that it first appeared on Signos which I still haven’t listened to. Wonder what it sounds like in the context of that album.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 March 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

Wow, you have Signos in third place, behind Dynamo and Canción Animal, pretty high.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 March 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

Thinking of getting a biography now.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link

Signos is great, I waffled putting it #2. The first couple tracks are only solid, but "Prófugos" through the end is an excellent run of tracks

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link

How long did it actually take you to listen to all the albums properly and formulate your opinions? I’m starting to think it is somewhat of a daunting task, without even taking into consideration all the live and symphonic versions never mind the solo stuff and side projects. Maybe not quite as gigantic a discography as Wayne Shorter but still.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

Speaking of Capussotto, I just learned about this parody of “De música ligera” called “Llamen a Moe.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iUtlksYzEg

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link

“Balsa” on Bocanada has an obvious sample from Elvis Presley’s “It’s Now or Never.”

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link

My first post on this thread was August 2021 so about a year and a half! I've spaced them out pretty evenly since then, and the top ones on my list I've probably given 5-6 listens, the bottom ones only 3. Been meaning to go back to Bocanada and Sueño because I heard them early and might like them more with context

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:47 (one year ago) link

Listening to Colores Santos now and liking it. Somewhat similar to Bocanada but maybe more intense and industrial. ILX0r xhuxk liked it quite a bit. Speaking of Daniel Melero, apparently that Peter Capussotto bit was based on a real incident.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

That's the next one for to check out - as you can tell I tend towards the 80s/early 90s material thus far

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

For me*

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

Hoy se cumplen 30 años del recital de Los Encargados en BARock, en el que nos tiraron 30 kilos de frutas. ¿Dónde estará toda esa gente, hoy?

— Daniel Melero (@DanMelero) November 7, 2012

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:32 (one year ago) link

So “En la ciudad de la furia” is about…Icarus?

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link

Sad to say, I know next to no Spanish and haven't really paid attention to their lyrics at all. Despite that, I got pretty into them, Café Tacvba, and Caifanes in the last couple years

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

I have been trying to do some of these at karaoke recently so have been paying a bit more attention to the lyrics.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

Wow, “En la ciudad de la furia” has been covered at least two dozen times looks like.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

Finally figured out what this SEP7IMO DIA aka Séptimo or Sép7imo Día - No Descansaré is. A Cirque du Soleil show based on the music of Soda Stereo, with some mashups and new recordings of drums and other things, done by Zeta, Charly and longtime Soda sound man Adrián Taverna, along with some assistance from Gustavo’s sister Laura, I think. It’s pretty cool, I think.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

Actually part of the Soda Stereo origin story is that Charly called up Laura for a date one weekend, she said no, and he said “okay, let me talk to your brother then.”

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link

Haha I think I read that story somewhere

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:43 (one year ago) link

Seem to be many tellings of that story, here is a long amusing interview with Charly about it. It’s in Spanish though.

https://www.facebook.com/ceratisodaperu/videos/charly-alberti-a-mi-me-gustaba-laura-cerati-significado-sodastereo-programa-omar/217183216006505/

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2023 23:52 (one year ago) link

Too much stuff on the web, I probably shouldn’t link to all of it, but here is what seems to be an interesting documentary about Gustavo with interviews from his inner circle, if not from Zeta and Charly, and a title from the lyrics of “En la ciudad de la furia.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFtiTei2a8

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

It seems to be an attempt to get deep inside his artistic process as opposed to the usual approach of biographical documentaries, as this review says: https://indiehoy.com/noticias/critica-de-un-hombre-alado-un-profundo-viaje-al-interior-del-universo-de-gustavo-cerati/

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

A klezmer version of a certain song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-DWZKvyAY

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link

One thing is that many of the songs just don’t click with me right away for whatever reason. “Canción Animal” is finally registering with me as of this weekend.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

This could be said of almost any band tbh.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

And right now it's "Primavera 0."

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

The "original" version of "Llamen a Moe" from Todo X 2 Pesos before Gustavo, who was a huge fan of the show, came to recover it on the show's final episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjuUlCLxOE

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link

.
Se hacían llamar “Los Estereotipos” La lista incluyó temas como “Dorian Grey” (luego titulado “El Tiempo es Dinero”) “Trae Cola” (que luego terminaría siendo “Juegos de Seducción”) , “Dime Sebastián”, “Detectives”, “La calle enseña”, “¿Por qué no puedo ser del jet-set?”…

— Soda Stereo (@sodastereo) December 19, 2021

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link

Despite the fact that he never actually says “My name is Gustavo and I’m here to say,” “En la borde” has some truly terrible Fruity Pebbles-level English-language rapping.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link

“En el borde” sorry.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

I didn't remember the title of the song but I remember exactly what you're talking about

Vinnie, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

Seem to recall upthread ILX0r Moja referring to Gustavo as being “the Bob Dylan of Latin America,” but to me he is more like Prince, even in this.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

Yeah but it was more of a comparison about him being as famous as Dylan. Sound-wise they don’t have anything in common.

Soda Stereo’s early sound and even looks were highly inspired by new wave and goth, specifically by The Cure.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

They were accused back in the 80’s of being a copy of The Cure… i think it was more of how they looked, I’m not hearing any blatant Cure copies in their songs tbh - although yeah, they admit they were huge Cure fans.

I kinda hear more other new wave bands in their sound, some early songs give The Police vibes. And the album version - not the unplugged one - of “ciudad de la feria” sounds lifted from The Fixx - Red Skies.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link

Believe they specifically mention The Police in interviews.

Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link


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